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Coincidence? Israel only country to escape proposed State Department budget cuts (msn.com)

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[–]freakshowmurica 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Not a chance. They are a wealthy nation, don't need our aid at all, but get the most foreign aid. Israel has a death grip on this country. A whole herd of fuckers from AIPAC made sure nothing changed because, you know, the holocaust.

Don't ever believe anything on the MSM about Israel. Our media is tightly controlled.

[–]AFuckYou 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Israel doesn't necessarily have a death grip on the country. Rather they literally own this country.

[–]joe_jaywalker 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Israel is the only functioning democracy in the United States.

[–]34679 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

LOL, but seriously, "functioning" democracies give equal rights regardless of race. Israel does not.

[–]Spooky_Hillbilly [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

No they don't. Ancient Greece, the founder of "functioning" democracies gave rights to just a very small minority.

Full on democracy is bad anyways, as it is nothing more than mob-rule. Not everyone deserves every right.

[–]fuster_cluq [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Who doesn't deserve rights?

[–]Spooky_Hillbilly [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I said not everyone deserves every right.

[–]fuster_cluq [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Well then who doesn't deserve every right?

[–]wOLFman4987 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The account is 26 days old and subbed to T_D. It's a shill.

[–]Spooky_Hillbilly [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Because ive been on reddit for 26 days, and I read about conspiracies... im a shill? Do you even know the definition of the word?

You won't get far in life, if you honestly believe everyone who disagrees with you is a shill.

[–]freakshowmurica 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. It's obvious to anyone who cares to open their eyes.

[–]DELETEDREDDIT 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is sadly correct, as Israel and the Federal Reserve are both Rothschild entities.

[–]DAY_OF_THEE_ROPE 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rothchilds own Israel, therefore, they own the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration#Early_Zionism

Politicians take an oath to Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCBzFVKuUpI

Hitler tried to fight them, but history is written by the victors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qYcVVwZhb8

[–]madtoothbrush97 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really a death grip but one hand of Rothschild from US gives money to other hand of Rothschild in Israel. He literally is sending money to himself and you or I or anyone else for that matter cannot stop it.

[–]showmeurboobsplznthx 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Without Hamas, Israel couldn't cry. It is my belief Hamas is used the same as America using ISIS.i believe Rafael, IMI, and the Israeli military regime are secretly funding and working with Hamas so both regimes retain power and money. Hamas always seem to launch rockets from areas Israel wants. 90% of these tickets land in empty fields. Or near new missle defense systems in the testing phase.

Hence why peaceful intelligent movements in Palestine always get shut down by violence.

[–]zenicaone 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there are some conspiracies that Israel helped create Hamas when PLO gave up violent resistance and started focusing on diplomacy.

I remember reading about it a long time ago, so not sure how much of it is based in real facts.

[–]freakshowmurica 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for your thoughts. I've suspected these things as well.

[–]LightBringerFlex 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These punks are next level low. Check out this interview with a Zionist.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKrtRk0lVXYGbuxVWRp8J-FZTwTpX6_hiOkmsNNOrB4XmSYFuzOrm1rmm93LMsZhx24H2G9g4jun0I7C0-ZGpy9iqbnymQ&time_continue=746&v=vyuDNsTSXl8

[–]vanquish_islam 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is disgusting that the aid wasn't cut in proportion to the rest of the cuts. I don't think it's about the holocaust anymore, it's now just the status quo.

[–]ParamoreFanClub 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone who thought trump was different got played

[–]HierophantGreen 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's different, but not in a good way

[–]Kind_Of_A_Dick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He said during his campaign that there was nobody that was a better friend to Israel than he was. I don't understand why anyone would ever think he'd somehow change the US stance regarding Israel except to give them more.

[–]Brendancs0 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (0子コメント)

God damnit Donnie your an Israel slave

[–]TouchMeHerePls 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (60子コメント)

Why is everyone so goddamn antisemitic around here?

/s

[–]MangusParomus 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You jest, but if Trump had cut funding to Israel the front page would be painting him as a Nazi.

[–]SpartanTank 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (56子コメント)

"Oy vey! The goyim know, shut it down!"

I await the day when the HolocausthoaxTM collapses on itself completely. The whole world will throw a fit at the zionist scum.

[–]TouchMeHerePls 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If Americans knew...

[–]SpartanTank 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They'd fuckin burn AIPAC to the ground lol

[–]onetimerone 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, they wouldn't do anymore than beef cattle who found out all the gates aren't for entrance to space mountain.

[–]AFuckYou 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Israel aka Zionist Jews are the deep state.

[–]ICrapInYourSafeSpace 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws.”

Mayer Amschel Rothschild, banker (1744–1812)

[–]thetruthful 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Compared to the cost of living in the United States, the cost of eradicating hunger is minimal. For example, it costs just $10 USD to feed a boy in Kenya’s refugee camps for 3 weeks – this is less than the cost of lipstick in Manhattan. It costs only $50 USD to feed a school-aged girl for an entire year in many developing nations. It costs only 20 cents to feed one child a nutrient-rich serving of Plumpy’Sup®, a nutritional food supplement. In 2003, the FAO estimated that an additional $24 billion in public funding each year would be needed to reach the goal of halving global hunger by 2015 (with inflation, the figure becomes $36 billion in 2008 dollars). http://www.uniteforsight.org/hunger/module3

Israel gets ~4 billion dollars per year.

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    [–]MangusParomus -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The US also sent hundreds of millions of dollars a year to Palestinr. A government that provides martyr pensions to the families of dead terrorist. So we also support terrorism.

    [–]javi404 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    the problem with feeding Africa is it will just allow them up keep reproducing and now instead of 100 million hungry children you have 200 million. it's not sustainable.

    [–]thetruthful 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The problem with giving money to Israel is that they don't need it at all.

    [–]javi404 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    agreed. we shouldn't be giving them a single penny.

    [–]elnegroik 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Forget about "giving them money" and try keeping your hands out their pockets in the first place. Or not destabilising the region stealing resources. Or installing puppet dictators who turn out to be genocidal maniacs. Or demanding reparations for granting countries independence. Africa is wealthy beyond your imagination - but when the the whole world lines up to steal your wealth, sure Things can get tight. As China and BriCS nations are learning, it's better to cooperate and assist countries in raising their people from poverty through investment and equal trade- this way you create partners and wealthy middle classes to sell your products and services to. The Cabal who control America followed the self same parasitic British mode of rule that's made the US reviled the world over. As an American look no further than your own decimated middle class to see how the con is perpetrated on domestic populations.

    [–]vanquish_islam 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Yea at best the money would be better spent on roads and electricity in Africa to enable them to produce.

    [–]javi404 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    You wont see it in the main stream media. The Chinese are doing exactly that. building roads etc in exchange for access to mine raw materials.

    [–]necrambo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    it's not exactly benevolent, they need that infrastructure to remove said minerals...

    [–]javi404 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly. And there is plenty controversy in Africa about it.

    [–]elnegroik 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    . The ignorance in the west on Africa Is deliberately maintained so people feel nothing as it is systemically looted.

    [–]digiorno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    People aren't going to stop having sex just because you aren't giving them food. Besides, for example, we could use the money to buy birth control for impoverished states to help with the growing population crisis. Or education or infrastructure so that they can deal with larger populations.

    [–]autopornbot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    OP isn't saying they would stop having sex. He's saying it's a good thing when African babies starve to death because it limits their numbers.

    Just your basic 'the poor don't deserve to live' classicism.

    [–]ictp42 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I actually think climate change denial is motivated by a racist/eugenicist desire for population control. Hundreds of millions will die, the vast majority will be black or brown, the rich regardless of colour will be fine.

    [–]fatcyst2020 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I think that climate change is real, but I think that we have the technology to combat it already, and the motivation to get more funding for research ala carbon taxes is greed rather than necessity.

    [–]McLarenX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ok, but if we were to feed this kenyans would they ever create a self-sufficient society?

    [–]PolandPole 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ((Donald Trump))

    [–]PolandPole 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Trump achieved an incredible feat of being perceived as an anti-Semite, himself likely not being an anti-Semite and being Israel's bitch, all at the same time. Bravo sir.

    [–]tatikios 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    So, is this subreddit finally turning against Trump or will this also be forgotten tomorrow?

    [–]elnegroik 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Don't let the astroturfers at Elgin Airforce Base fool you - this sub is decidedly anti trump.

    [–]tatikios 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yeah, no.

    Threads critical of Trump get buried and deleted regularily.

    [–]elnegroik 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well aware, check my post history to see some recent battles. There's some crossover from T_D sure and a chunk of guys who got pushed into Trump as an antiClinton kneejerk - but from what I see the core users can still see what's going on

    [–]tatikios 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You are aware that several mods have left because of the pro-Trump bias here?

    [–]elnegroik 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No- no I was not. Christ- didn't know it had gotten that bad.

    [–]itsajaguar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Nah this sub's hatred for Jews just happens to outweigh their love of Donald Trump. Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism are the foundations of this subreddit.

    [–]elnegroik 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I rarely see much, if any tbh, outright denials that a mass genocide took place. More so, it's disbelief at the systematic manner it's been deliberately distorted to extract maximum benefit for the Zionist agenda.

    [–]tatikios -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Before Trumpists took over, hardly a day went by on which the Holocaust wasn't denied.

    [–]itsajaguar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wish there was a sub where people posted their theories on aliens/bigfoot/ secret Antarctic bases, or lizard people. I don't believe in any of it but it's interested to read about and the endless political and Jewish focal point of this sub ruins it.

    [–]akivachaim 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

    [–]XDiabolusExMachinaX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Israel is the size of New Jersey. I'm American. I could care less about Israel but yet the right wing will always cry out for them.

    [–]fatcyst2020 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Gross, why did you have to bring New Jersey into this? I just ate.

    [–]freakshowmurica 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Here's a clip from Kay Griggs and what she said about the State Dept back in the 1990's:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhS6B9U13aY

    [–]HierophantGreen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wonder what David DUke has to say about it

    [–]bberrypie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Israel is that they did cut israels foreign aid to Israel, America is anti-semitic?

    [–]BennyOcean 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    FYI Obama made a 10-year foreign aid deal before leaving office. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/14/united-states-military-aid-israel/90358564/

    [–]rimper -7 ポイント-6 ポイント  (56子コメント)

    Lol...So Trump and his administration are antisemites, or not? You people can't have it both ways.

    [–]TouchMeHerePls 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    So, let's get this straight:

    If America gives no money to Israel, America is antisemitic?

    [–]kgt5003 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (29子コメント)

    There is more than 1 group of people who don't blindly support everything Trump does. There are far left people who just scream "racist/anti-Semite" etc. and try to paint everything he does as anti-social justice... and there are people who don't hero-worship and would be against anybody in office doing stupid shit that they disagree with. Not everyone is calling Trump an anti-Semite.. but instead of tackling the subject being discussed here you portray the OP as "one of those people" and paint his criticism as "just throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks." In reality Trump is genuflecting to Israel just like he pledged he'd do during his AIPAC speech. Instead of "Hillary's WW3 with Russia!!!11!!!" Trump's fan's were so concerned about we will get Netanyahu's WW3 with Iran and NK and we'll get to be the ones who fight it too.

    [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (28子コメント)

    Lol...The fact that you find my mentioning of anti-Trumper's dueling narratives inconvenient, tells me all I need to know. I'm sorry I've perplexed you.

    [–]kgt5003 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (27子コメント)

    There are dueling narratives because they aren't being offered by the same people... Do you understand that more than 1 person can make a complaint about the President and the complaints might not be the same? Like, for example, with Obama people on the far left complained that he was just another war monger using drone strikes to kill people while people on the right complained he was soft on terror and weak and nobody respected America anymore because he was a pushover. So those are 2 different narratives that conflict with each other but they aren't offered by the same group or from the same perspective. Do you see how that works?

    People on the far left look at Trump and say "he's a bigot." People who aren't 100% ideological (and aren't hero-worshippers) look at Trump and say "Oh... just another puppet of Israel."

    [–]SpartanTank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You articulated your thoughts perfectly. Cheers!

    [–]ictp42 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    just another puppet of Israel

    I think you get a lot of things right but you are misguided about this one. Israel is just an outpost. It's a distraction. The tail doesn't wag the dog. The money is in Wall Street. And it's not just Jews, it's also the European and Middle Eastern aristocracy. You are missing the forest for the trees. It's always been about class. The Clash of Civilizations is a racket.

    [–]kgt5003 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Don't mistake what I'm saying for "The Jews!!" It's not that at all. Israel and the Israeli lobby plays a huge role in shaping our foreign policy. We spend a lot of time and money in areas of the Middle East that have small or no benefit to our country and tremendous benefit to Israel. We literally have Presidential candidates (as Trump did) speaking at the AIPAC conference and pledging our military to a foreign country... and when they do that they mean it. We will fight wars for Israel and we will fund them even though we have a policy against giving foreign aid to countries that commit war crimes/human rights violations and the UN has consistently admonished Israel for their horrible human rights record. We will let them have nukes that go unregulated by any weapons inspectors. We will let them have a racist apartheid state. And we will let them do this with our money. This isn't just a Wall Street issue and it's not a Jewish issue either. Israel, the country, has a very powerful lobby in DC and politicians who don't bend the knee to the Israeli lobby are smeared as anti-Semitic and they go nowhere.

    [–]ictp42 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Israel lobby mirrors the Military Industrial Complex's lobby which is much bigger. Israel is simply the largest foreign lobby. It's misdirection. It works well because the problem is intractable. It's very difficult to get a westerner to sympathise with the Palestinians, so people can just argue about the issue forever and forget who owns Lockheed.

    [–]rimper -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (22子コメント)

    The narrative is flip-flopped according to what is convenient at the time...Stop feigning naivete.

    [–]kgt5003 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (21子コメント)

    By who? Again, you are acting like it's people on the same side of the issue changing their "narrative." It isn't. Rightwing neo-con warhawks wanted Obama being more militant because they want war with Iran because Israel wants war with Iran. They complained that Obama was soft on terror and a weakling on the world stage trotting around apologizing for our many foreign interventions that had unfortunate outcomes. People on the left didn't like his overuse of drone strikes and thought his foreign policy was already too militant... they wanted him to disengage from all military action. It isn't a shifting narrative. It is 2 separate opinions from 2 separate factions.

    You are avoiding the important part to argue over who is making these arguments. What is your position on foreign aid to Israel? That's the discussion to be had.

    [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (20子コメント)

    I think the topic of Obama is on a different thread...You trying to wade off into the weeds by pretending to be confused, doesn't change the accuracy of my statements.

    [–]kgt5003 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    I'm not pretending to be confused... I'm demonstrating how there can be conflicting criticisms of the same person... It's not hard to understand. But, more importantly, why don't you address the content of the post. What is your position on foreign aid and specifically foreign aid to Israel? Is it the same position you always had or did you change your mind in order to be OK with Trump's devotion to Israel?

    [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (18子コメント)

    We must support Israel...The enemy of your most dangerous enemy, is your friend.

    [–]kgt5003 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    The Palestinians are our most dangerous enemy? Because that's pretty much the only group Israel is dedicating much military attention towards.. If we were giving Israel money and weapons and helping them fund their secret nuclear program (that's not really even a secret anymore) and they were using that money and military power to fight against our enemies so we wouldn't have to then that'd be one thing. That's not the case though. We give them money and weapons and they use that to fight Palestinians and help dictate American foreign policy so that we station troops all over the Middle East in endless wars that they help design. We scratch their back an awful lot and they haven't been scratching ours. But we can come up with 4 billion a year to throw their way no problem... People have a stroke if they see their tax money going towards health care but they're fine with it going to Israel.

    [–]soonerchad 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    What do you mean by "you people"?

    [–]rimper -8 ポイント-7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I think you know. The OP, and the others of his ilk that submit this type of stuff.

    [–]soonerchad 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    What do you mean by "this type of stuff"? I'm being serious. It seems like youre dancing around what you really want to say.

    [–]rimper -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Wow. Either your confusion is feigned, or you are quite special.

    [–]soonerchad 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    You are just using nonspecific terms. I'm just trying to understand what you mean by "this type of stuff". Because #1. I don't see anywhere that OP said Trump is antisemitic (although the Jews certainly say he is antisemitic, even though his daughter is jew and his son in law is jew) . #2. So his statement isn't true? Please site your source that they did cut israels foreign aid from the US.

    [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    "The Jews certainly say he is antisemitic"...Thanks for the laugh.

    [–]soonerchad 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well it's obvious, by your original statement, that you came in just to toe the line of Political Correctness that you have been brainwashed with but you got caught. Now youre just hoping I'll shut up and this will all just go away. You should really think for yourself. Bye.

    [–]rimper -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Bye"...So you are shutting up? Why would you save me from your un-brainwashed wrath?

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      [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Excellent retort!...I shall ponder this all day.

      [–]JamesColesPardon[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Removed. Rule 4.

      [–]TouchMeHerePls 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fucking 4x2

      [–]dsk123 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      What are you talking about?

      [–]rimper -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Read more.

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        [–]rimper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        If you claim to "not understand what I'm talking about" after my numerous replies on this thread, you are either being conveniently obtuse or are simply beyond any more help that I can give you.

        [–]freakshowmurica 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Definitely not. His daughter converted to Judaism. His son in law is jewish. Just have a look at his AIPAC speech.

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          [–]fatcyst2020 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He's more Mussolini than Hitler.

          [–]ComradeDonaldTrump -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The "Trump is literally Hitler" stuff seems to be mostly a strawman in rebuttal to "Trump supports some authoritarian/fascist policies" complaints. Or "What? neo-Nazis support him so he's literally Hitler?! Jeez!" stuff. The oversimplification of a great number of concerns into a single, seemingly easier to dismiss whole. Given Trump's actual statements regarding Judaism- which can be tasteless and ill-informed, at times, but don't seem hateful - I don't really get why the hardcore neo-Nazis love him; though, admittedly, neo-Nazis aren't known for their coherence of thought.

          [–]Spooky_Hillbilly [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Coincidence? Not at all.

          Israel is the only other repository of western thought, values, and democracy left in the world. Other than the US.

          Of course we should give them money.

          [–]noni2k -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Good. They are our biggest and most important ally.

          [–]PillowDan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Woooo, another Isreal shill! Have anything else to say, something about 6 gorillian or how we should send even more money over there?

          [–]noni2k -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          No just happy belated pancake day.

          [–]PillowDan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I don't know what pancake day is, but thanks friend.