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Failed Vacation (self.marriedredpill)

BigB1901 が 投稿

Not sure where I fucked up. Took the RP last Oct and I have been happy, feeling alive, down 20 lbs, staying in my frame (thought my wife was too) and having the most intense sex of my life every few days. Setup a week vacation to Vegas with a second couple and no kids. All was good until we landed and my wife shuts down. Spent most of the time alone with the other husband telling him to step up and stop being a BP husband or with our wives trailing behind us but for meals. All attempts of sex and fun was shutdown.

I have no idea what should be done and how to prevent this in the future.

Edits: Based on the comments, I'm adding more detail.

Should have said going out with the other husband alone drinking, valley of fire, walking the strip, old strip, go carts and gambling. Our wives were with us about 60% of the time but not engaged, trailing behind us and complaining to go back to the hotel (offered to send them in a cab). I had a great time minus my wife and only missed one DJ that I should have seen.

The other couple was my wife's sister and husband.

I always bash my brother in law about manning up to his wife.

To me, my wife shutdown is when she tells me she is tired for no reason and just wants to sleep. Stops responding to flirting and does not want to have a drink when out. Shit testing and when I attempt sex, I get a nasty comment or I'm tired response.

Thanks for the input, really helps.

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[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (0子コメント)

Alright OP. Let's go back and do some editing on this. Otherwise it's a pretty low effort post. Please add, a brief bio, what happened when she shut down, etc.

You're like Marcy from Sienfeld, "Marcy comes over and she tells me that her ex-boyfriend was over late last night and 'yada yada yada I'm really tired today.' "

Don't yada yada us.

You have a day to fix it, or it's locked.

[–]Hamilton950B 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You shouldn't be lecturing the other husband. The fact that you did this makes me think you're probably making lots of mistakes. Without more info I can't guess what they are.

[–]A_RexRED KNIGHT 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, this. Red knighting is often a fool's errand, and you have to be especially careful with this shit among RL family and friends. Lecturing your BIL on how to be awesome is cringeworthy AF for all involved. OP basically embarrassed himself, and the rest of the gang was mortified.

Hope he doesn't talks about fight club to his wife.

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

is it actually possible for you to give us less information??

[–]SeamusAwl 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes

my name is BigB1901. Took my wife on a vacay and she was a bitch. Where did I go wrong?

[–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ok fine you got me. but he lost 20 lbs!

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You thought your wife was on board...... hahahahahaha.

You stumbled on your RP journey. Now you just got the memo, again, that it ever ends. Learn from it and keep getting stronger.

[–]BigB1901[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Definitely messed up. I hate losing. I should think of this as a journey.

[–]FireTemperedMRP APPROVED 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

90% of our troubles are about "getting it" over and over again. You will live to play another day. Best

[–]StingrayVCRP Wife- MRP APPROVED 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Spent most of the time alone with the other husband telling him to step up and stop being a BP husband

Your wife may have been embarrassed by her loss of power over you in front of this man's wife and was trying to regain some control in front of her.

[–]BigB1901[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It was her little sister, I think you are correct.

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So what should you have done?

[–]SgtSilverBack 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time to see what you have internalized and add value to your own post OP.

[–]drty_pr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How tight are you with you BIL? Cause if you're not tight as a dry fart, then he is going to ramble on to your SIL about your RP learnings. Do you think she would in turn tell her sister?

I have 1 friend whom I talk RP praxology with. He is alpha as fuck and my life long best friend. I also have 1 friend who I may red knight. He is my second best friend in the world and I'm very hesitant of it.

You really took a trip to Vegas with your wife, a place that has countless possibilities to be fun, and spent the time talking RP with your BIL? Fuck man.

[–]BigB1901[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Never called it out to him as Red Pill. Just to man up.

Never told my wife about the red pill but I don't hide it either. She can see the browser history and I have the sidebar books on the Kindle that she uses.

[–]PineleroMarried 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the beta bitch squealed to his shrew who in turn, because sisterherd, ratted out your non conformance with the feminine imperative to your "wife". THAT embarrassed your woman, so you got shunned. Don't bring her next time to Vegas if she won't put out. Not much fun in sin city being celibate....

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm wondering why you didn't go have a blast anyway. Like, the line about lecturing the other dude about being BP... You sound like fun.

Now, if you expected the Vegas trip to turn your wife on, you had a covert contract. Past sexual thrills should play no part in this. This is on the sidebar of the main sub, which you should also be reading as it contains the basic RP foundational readings. The first bullet point in that post:

Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

You were feeling great, lost 20 lbs, having great sex, killing it. You think, A Vegas trip. That'll kick this up a notch! But that very thought introduced a covert contract and destroyed the chances of Vegas actually being successful. I.e., you gave off some sort of vibe that this trip was actually for sex, not for fun like you said. That sort of deceit turns women off.

All attempts of sex and fun was shutdown.

Dude, you should have stopped pouting and went out and had fun anyway. Go do whatever you wanted. Vegas is literally the easiest, most generic place for sex and fun to happen. But you allowed your wife to decide if the two of you would have sex and fun.

So let's see...

  • Covert contract

  • Pussy on the pedestal

  • You forgot to have fun

And the other guys said you didn't give us enough information.

[–]the-capitan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this needs to be upboated 10x.

when a girl gets salt in her vag around you, the proper response is not to commiserate with her. if you do, you're failing her shit test. move the fuck on with your life and have fun.

[–]RedWagonChroniclesUnplugging 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure where I fucked up.

We aren't either, because you give almost no actionable information in your post. You should break down the situation and move this shit show to askmrp.

Took the RP last Oct and I have been happy, feeling alive, down 20 lbs, staying in my frame (thought my wife was too) and having the most intense sex of my life every few days.

You haven't taken any pill. You know about it and are like a child with a grenade. My suggestion, read all the sidebar while establishing a legit weight training program. When you're​ done. Keep lifting and read it again. I'd also guess you don't know what frame actually is.

Setup a week vacation to Vegas with a second couple and no kids. All was good until we landed and my wife shuts down.

This is good until it's bad. You have no idea why she shut down and don't have the tools to recognize the issue or deal with the issue. Again sidebar material has all of this and more.

Spent most of the time alone with the other husband telling him to step up and stop being a BP husband or with our wives trailing behind us but for meals. All attempts of sex and fun was shutdown.

And here is the evidence that you have no frame and have no idea what you are doing. Don't lecture other people about this, especially when you're not ready to deal with your own shit.

You should have stuck by your wife and shown her through actions that you're here to have a good time. Tease and pick, but lead her to fun. Instead you isolated yourself with some other BP guy and unloaded your newb shit on him. You missed a prime opportunity to actually lead the group.

I have no idea what should be done and how to prevent this in the future.

Read and lift. Pick a tool, like AA and slowly practice working it into your life. Once you get a good handle on it move to another tool. In addition to reading​ and lifting you should be flirting with everyone including your wife.

[–]BigB1901[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Revisiting the side bar on the flight home, I clearly missed something and should have been in more control of the frame.

[–]DarkAges1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you gone Redpill Rambo? Is this a comfort test?

[–]BigB1901[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, I over estimated my progress. It could be.

[–]mrpthrowa 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this?

[–]sunthas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'd always plan a vegas vacation at peak cycle.

[–]screechhater 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP read this until eyes bleed from the back of your sockets

[–]maxofreddit 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True this...always helps to stack the deck in your favor.

[–]screechhater 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just fucking love these posts.

Help ME ! I am trying to Red Knight, and fucking up by not worrying about me and my sexual strategy When I ask questions I fail miserably like in my internalizing of the info

[–]BobbyPeru 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

RP is a journey, not a destination.

[–]whitesocks2000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Vegas for a week is too long. The females tend to bottle rocket the first day. Best to keep to Vegas to a long weekend trip.

[–]donerkebabpleaseUnplugging 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Troll

[–]BluepillProfessor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All attempts of sex and fun was shutdown.

Yah, they do that. All you can do is go have fun without her. Travel is highly stressful on some people and they lose it. Otherwise your girl has the whispers from her sister and no good can ever come of that.

[–]officerkondo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our wives were with us about 60% of the time but not engaged, trailing behind us and complaining to go back to the hotel

This tells me that you did not plan this trip. Which is to say, when you woke up each morning, you didn't know what you were going to do and just decided to wing it. You and BIL would ask your wives, "what do you want to do today?". "We don't know". "Ok, I guess we'll go ride go-carts." Did I get that right?

When I go on a trip with my woman, I have an itinerary. I don't have every minute planned but things are largely scheduled. For example, "after we leave the airport, we'll check in, have lunch, and then unwind for an hour before we head to X. Tomorrow morning, we'll go to Y, then have lunch nearby, and then do Z before we go to dinner at Q." This is mutually agreed and all done before we even purchase the air tickets. Take charge and there is no sitting around with your thumb up your ass or drama of, "I don't want to be here."

Also, for reasons others have discussed, I don't recommend traveling with another couple because all will be dragged down to the level of the weakest beta.