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[–]TJ_McWeaksauce 194 ポイント195 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Triss looks like a realistic fantasy.

That character from Mass Effect: Andromeda looks like someone I spotted at the DMV.

They're both realistic in their own way.

[–]WCsharpeh 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Eva Green with red hair? #teamtriss

[–]TJ_McWeaksauce 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just watched The Salvation on Netflix. In it, Eva Green plays a mute. She spend the movie acting with her eyes.

Eva Green is probably the best eyeball actress working today.

[–]WCsharpeh 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can never make it that far up tbh

[–]_Wisord 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should go search Sophie Dee. She is also an excellent... 'eye actress'. Yes.. that is what she is.

[–]RatchetBro 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You saw someone with oddly glowing hair that case no shadow at the DMV?

[–]lostskillz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even in the trailer Sheppard looks very derpy.

[–]itchio22 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe the ME animators are just really big Minnie Driver fans?

[–]GrayfoxFJ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You made me choke on my coffee.

[–]dooj88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

or Kelly Osbourne

[–]graywolf0026 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

... And there goes my appetite. Which is fine, I need to loose weight anyways. ... So does Kelly by the looks of it.

[–]LongHornJack 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol that face is straight out of Oblivion.

[–]Bitemarkz 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Horizon version

[–]rhialy 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (8子コメント)

While I agree that ME:A's animations look like they motion captured a shimpanzee and not a human, this comparison is shit.

[–]croppergib 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I heard from a friend in the industry that they had mo-cap problems because the actors had a bad crash on the way to the studio which affected the production for weeks. This is why the animations aren't as smooth as the actors were wearing neck braces and were a bit stiff with the arms out to the side.

[–]Greystoke1337 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, but mocap is mostly used as a starting point for animation. There is so much work involved to make mocap look good, it's unbelievable.

Source: I work in the VFX industry and has dealt with mocap in numerous occasions.

[–]ifoundyourtoad 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm....

[–]sadicious -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting. I don't see any animations in this post.

[–]FishPilot -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is a "shrimpanzee" a shrimp and a chimp together? If so, how did that happen? Physically, I mean. And how did a shrimp fall in love with a chimp? That love could never last

[–]deceptithot 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why do the people in this game all look like shit

[–]pokemansplease 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is realistic mocap-based #immersion

[–]p01chi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And I though I had ugly friends

[–]pokemansplease 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My friends and I are EASILY uglier than this Mass Effect character model, I feel the #immersion

[–]TobyCrow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see a lot of CG-based artists who are good on the technical side and can add a lot of new detail and accurate sculpts, but they don't know the fundamentals of art. Appeal and art direction are much harder to do than copying from a scan or photograph.

Also consider the uncanny valley. The closer you get to artificiality-created realism the more difficult it is to get away with shoddily-done models and be convincing. There's just a bunch of micro-expressions and movements we expect from real life but since we only see glassy-eyed people here it feels very wrong.

[–]AradIori 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been hearing good things about the gameplay of ME:A at least, but everyone agrees that the animations on humans is...well...shit.

[–]K3m0sabe 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Much to Bethesda and Biowares dissapointment, Witcher 3 is still the standard that they will have to measure themselves against... And fail miserably if Andromeda, Inquisition and Fallout 4 is the best they can do.

[–]Jonmad17 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Inquisition was a good game.

[–]giz0r 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Inquisition was great though, not The Witcher 3 great, but great.

[–]phenderl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

i'd break it down as a good game for a dragon age fan for the lore, an ok game on its own, and a bad game for someone new to rpg's

[–]nastylittleman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nicely put. Not a fan of the franchise. Got bored with Inquisition pretty quickly.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Here we go, first Skyrim Vs Witcher and now this.

[–]crazed3raser 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/Gamingcirclejerk

[–]treemasterx 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Current wars:

-"Witcher 3" Vs. "Everyone"

-"Zelda BOTW" Vs. "Horizon: ZD"

-"ME:A" Vs. "Anything"(Including SFP)

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Anyone selling tickets to these events? I kinda want to take my kids to see one.

[–]treemasterx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They are happening all the time, just go to NeoGaf, /v/ or /r/games.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sweet, thanks. I think I might take the family down to /v/ this weekend for some entertainment.

[–]treemasterx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohh, my bad /v/ is for people 18+. You can go to the hugbox known as NeoGaf.

[–]uScared -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (15子コメント)

At least between comparing Witcher and ME:A, there is a proper discussion to be had. Comparing Witcher and Skyrim is like comparing apples to oranges, enitirely different things apart from the fact that both are fantasy.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (14子コメント)

There is a lot more to compare in the animations department, but other then that this is 2 different beasts. I just think we use Witcher 3 as a club to bash things we don't like. They even tried to do it with BotW

[–]whiting2017 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Yeah, but the difference is The Witcher 3 is 2 years old and ME:A is new. O_o

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (12子コメント)

And? All mass effects have had bad animations. I don't play it to god damn nit pick animations.

I know what you mean and it is sad that the game can't live up to Witcher 3 and will probably get 7/10 maybe a 8, but I am still playing it and I like it. The world of Mass Effect is what I love about it.

[–]whiting2017 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The older MassEffect games were made like 10 years ago. O_o

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

What are you getting at? The animations were bad then and they are bad now.

"Once an addict always an addict"

You'll give excuses to the original trilogy, but won't let this one slide, nice.

[–]whiting2017 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

DA:I has nice animations and a nice character creation. That's what we should be comparing it to, not a 10 year old game.

P.S. Mass Effect looked great when it released back in 2007.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Animation wise? Yea DA:I blows it out of the water, but remember for most that game ruined the series.

The original Mass Effect was a huge graphical standing point, but 2 and 3, not so much.

[–]whiting2017 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

DA:I ruined the series? Where the hell were they when DAII released! DAII that was a million times worse than DA:I.

[–]BarryMikokinner 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I love the world of Mass Effect but I cannot stand the dialog and writing. I feel that the ME universe had such potential after the first game, all of which was squandered in the subsequent sequels thanks to the departure of key writing staff.

I also hate how Bioware shoehorns their identity politics into games via self-insert characters and dialog that rips you out of the immersion in the universe. Games like Deus Ex and the Witcher are able to make political statements in a subtle way that does not seem abrupt, but Bioware seems unable to do this. I don't play video games to be bombarded by this kind of stuff, as I get it enough in my day to day life, I play them to get away from the political landscape of North America. Unfortunately video games are quickly becoming politicized, as are comic books which I no longer read.

ME1 will forever be one of my favourite games of all time, but I just can't get over the fact that Bioware wrote themselves into such a hole with ME3 that they had to leave the entire galaxy and essentially start over.

I will definitely pick up the game eventually, but it won't be brand new or factory sealed. As a matter of principle I refuse to give EA or Bioware my money ever again after the ME3 ending debacle, and this includes their sport titles as well. I wait a few weeks then snag a used copy, and have been doing this on a consistent basis.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know ME1 was the first game I ever owned for the Xbox 360 and I was kinda young then, but still loved it. I ended up playing the games backwards starting at 3 and going back, so my experience was off.

I love the world of Mass Effect and I agree Bioware can do better, but it doesn't mean the game is terrible. I quite enjoyed 3 even when people claimed it was the worst thing ever.

ME:A after playing the 10 hour trail has me hooked and I can't wait. The animations are sub par, but that doesn't take away from the story and fun of the game. Also the multiplayer is just as good as ME3 which is great.

[–]BarryMikokinner 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I played ME: 2 and ME: 3 as well and I enjoyed them, but I did not have the need to replay them as much as I did with ME: 1. I figure I replayed the first game about 7-8 different times, the second about 3 times, and the third about 2 times.

I find that with ME: 1, the universe had so much mystery and so much potential. I loved that Reapers were these extragalactic demi-gods whose motives we could not even comprehend (aka conversation on Virgil w/ Sovereign), and how it took the entirety of the galactic fleet to take down one Reaper blew me away. I expected to see these unbeatable behemoths and it pained me to see Reapers dropping left, right, and center in ME3 like they were just big capital ships. I was also dissapointed that their motives were stupid: destroy organics so they cannot build synthetics which will destroy them (btw the Reapers are synthetics). I dunno, the reveal felt flat for me.

ME2 was not as grand of a story but was more character driven and I have fond memories with that game. While ME3 has good moments (like shooting in the Citadel with Garrus), for me the game fell flat with some of the story decisions, the lack of impact from your choices (i.e. the Rachni still existing even though you killed the Queen, which was supposed to be the very last one), and the botched Deus Ex Machina ending.

From what I've seen from Mass Effect: Andromeda, I fear that the Bioware I fell in love with is gone, as is the fate of most EA bought studios. Most of the original staff has left, and what we are left with is a husk of the original studio. I don't think I will be able to get past the dialog, the terrible animations, and the poor facial renderings enough to justify spending 79.99 for a new game (from Canada). I will wait a few months until it drops to $40 used and then probably snag it.

To each their own however. I am glad you find enjoyment with ME:A, and I hope you have a great time. I just think that the crowd Bioware appeals to now and the crowd that Bioware began with are different. That is not a bad thing, but I don't think my tastes line up with them anymore.

[–]PM_ME_PERIDOT_BUTT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks man. I am sorry that Bioware has changed so much.

[–]doabadbadthing 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

God every part of me hopes the game looks better than this. I will get it either way (after a while I rarely buy new) but...please look better Mass Effect.

[–]roguepacket 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You may want to read some of the preliminary reviews floating around first... the visuals are not the biggest problem.

[–]dinodares99 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

According to those who used the EA Access early trial say the facial animations are no bueno

[–]JazzThree 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Like, worse than Mankind Divided?

[–]Space__Panda 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

well... maybe they have forgotten to add facial animations.

[–]JazzThree 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, so same tier as Mankind Divided.

I didn't realize how good Witcher 3's face animations were until I played other recent AAA games. Dishonored 2 has decent facial animations too

[–]Ambient_Riot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The male animations aren't that bad. Not great, but not terrible either. The female animations though....Fucking hell.

[–]Harbaron 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That Mass Effect screen must have been a bug.

Pls kek, pls don't make this game shit

[–]nod6102 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't wait for all the female companions to be fugly Sera copies

[–]kingflippydip 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sera was the worst part about inquisition by far

[–]Fraxxxi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well the song did warn you that sera was never an agreeable girl

[–]JouleS88 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

pls don't make this game shit

oh man u are in for a rude awakening

[–]franklyspooking 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Psst. It is.

[–]K4hid 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, everything looks like shit compare to Witcher 3

[–]Dildozer1000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not expecting Mass Effect: Andromeda to be a huge disappointment, but I'm also expecting it to fall short of expectations. Not a total flop of a game, but it's definitely going to have it's shortcomings compared to other games we've played.

[–]drysart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mass Effect: Andromeda is looking like its going to be another Dragon Age 2 -- a low quality cash-in rushed out by Bioware/EA before its ready.

[–]Dildozer1000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, from what I've seen so far - I'm probably going to wait a month to see if it's worth buying or not. I'm really not very impressed.

[–]LupusLycas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They have had five years! Five!

[–]someguy73 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been 5 years since the last Mass Effect game, not the last game they've worked on.

[–]25_Star_General_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They made the ME:3 lead writer the lead designer on this game, what do you expect.

I've read at least two previews talking about how the writing is a disaster -- shocking.

And my reddit feed is inundated with bad animation/character model links.

I really want this game to be good -- maybe just the early game sucks? Wishful thinking, but honestly, I'd be pretty surprised if it was anything other than a big letdown.

I guess we should reserve judgment until the final reviews are in, but it's not looking good.

[–]tearfueledkarma 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the eyes in ME:A are just off. They look flat and dead.

[–]collectivemangoe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hardly a fair representation.

[–]Haaxxx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

cmonBruh, can't even compare... that lack of polygons.

Witcher 3 is miles above that ugliness...

It's like any video titled "PC vs (console name) comparison".

[–]hstisalive 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LA Noire has better facial animations than MEA and that was on the 360 lol.

[–]gorillasuplex 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that an npc in the game or the player character?

[–]stopeer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mages in The Witcher use magic to enhance their appearances. The poor sods in ME:A live in a low-g environments, that's not good for a human body. Watch The Expanse :P

[–]DudicalAwesome 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

r/Gamingcirclejerk

[–]gavroche18 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Social justice warriors in action. The game is so bad it hurts the creators

[–]Relgabrix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow dude. I want ME:A to be good, but so much of what I've seen so far just looks like it could have used another 6 months of polish.

[–]imKairos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

What's the deal?

[–]Douche-McBaggins 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (10子コメント)

The deal is that after 10 years of making Mass Effect games, BioWare still can't give their characters a range of facial expressions besides "I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶f̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶.̶ I've forgotten to do my calibrations."

[–]Bullseye_Baugh 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And have you seen the video of that woman walking away after the convo in the opening scenes. Like someone trying to strut while doing the Harlem Shake.

[–]gameportz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the Vince McMahon strut

[–]immaculate_deception 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

And we are supposed to get that from a single screenshot?

[–]Adriatics 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does it get cold living under a rock? You have not seen any other footage of this hot mess?

Go watch Giant Bombs stream of this turd, the game looks like EA paid kidz to animate these characters.

Stop acting obtuse "OMG JUST ONE SCREENSHOT JEEZE GUISE!"

[–]imKairos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh alright. I thought that's what they were gettin at. Some developers just can't get certain things right. Still gonna play it haha.

[–]Milk_All_The_Cats -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

a SJWs wet dream.

[–]jeanlatruite 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Please tell me that's not a real screenshot. We are at Oblivion level quality here.

Although to be fair, CD Projeckt's games have always been way above all other games released at the same time in term of quality. Remember the graphical shock when The Witcher 1 and The Witcher 2 came out? I do.

[–]p01chi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More like The Sims with that purple hair :P

[–]BallHarness -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Witcher 3 circle jerk and Reddit. Match made in heaven.

[–]Lillzeb -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well the game contains aliens...

But witcher is contains trolls and monsters so....

Ye... what happend to the development of Mass Effect, a loved fransice that my student friend pestered me to play...

Is the game any good beside those weird faces and other animation from the minister of Silly Walks?

[–]lhchun[🍰] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there were no really good looking human in original mass effect anyway. And you are comparing one with a supermodel mage in witcher, ok.

[–]ABaadPun -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe when the game is released we can cherry pick comparisons?

[–]yaosio -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The uncanny valley took a bat to Triss.

[–]DarkPrinny -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After playing the Witcher 3 I am ruined. I literally went to play Dragon Age Inquisition for the first time and I almost threw the game in the dumpster. Not a bad game according to most but I have just been royally spoiled