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[–]Afrobean 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

itt: shills

[–]Manalore 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's great when 3 of the users are already tagged, and then there is an untagged user within the midst of the conversation that RES shows I have already downvoted +7 times elsewhere. Like flies on shit. Nothing sneaky about the "top comments" in this thread.

[–]krom_bom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do you have me tagged? I'm always curious, because I get called a shill almost every day on this sub, but I'm not one.

[–]thatlostshakerofsalt 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (18子コメント)

This sub is being slammed with shills against pizzagate. For those of you fighting for the kids - Speak louder. Fight harder,

[–]totally_not_a_pirate 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also

Don't acknowledge, don't reply, downvote, report, and move on.

This is a conspiracy subreddit. If someone's post history shows they are actively fighting the discussion of a conspiracy(make the distinction between fighting discussion and an opposing view).

Then refer to the slogan.

Don't acknowledge, don't reply, downvote, report, and move on.

[–]WisdomModifier [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also beware of tangentially related questions from those types of peoole that serve to waste your time. See the top post in this thread for an example.

[–]HashtagDadJoke 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also be careful, and pay close attention to the facts. Because you are being infiltrated, and people are trying to lead you astray.

[–]LadyBernVictim 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Agreed. Why would there be such a large group of users commenting to breathlessly disprove PizzaG8, David Seaman & others? This only makes me more suspicious.

[–]benderisgreat37 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Because it's frustrating to see a bunch of people keep talking about pizzagate where one thinks is fake with no real evidence? There are always going to be people who disagree with you for legit reasons (in their mind) no matter what your beliefs are.

[–]justforthissubred 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah but those people typically would not go make accounts and spend time on there discrediting pizzagate. Most normal people would just be like "those pizza conspiracy guys are crazy" and move on. This is clear shilling. Nobody's going out of their way to troll all day just because they disagree IMO.

[–]benderisgreat37 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I very much disagree. There is a fair percentage of people who subscribe to r/conspiracy that do not agree with the allegations surrounding pizzagate. Many people believe that pizzagate is a baseless conspiracy theory that has run amuck of its origins. Whether they are right or wrong. It is important to understand that this sub is full of people who have very differing opinions, it just may not seem that way because often one group is favored by the mods and the conversation is mostly skewed in that direction. Calling people shills just feels like a cop out to me. Don't discredit people who you disagree with just because you think they wouldn't normally take the time to disagree with you if they weren't shills.

[–]justforthissubred [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agree! I'm specifically referring to the people who make accounts on voat and join the pizzagate sub there and only post negative things about pizzagate with barely any or no activity in other subs than pizzagate. Those people are shills. Sorry for not being more clear.

[–]onelasttime0h [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I disagree thoroughly. I'm involved in this discussion because pizzagate is a different kind of conspiracy theory. Part of it is spreading the insinuation that a large number of private citizens are horrible people.

When you tell a huge crowd that a bunch of people are child abusing cannibals, and whip them into a frenzy over it, you're creating a real threat to real people.

[–]justforthissubred [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

A large number of private citizens are horrible people. Just look at comets instagram.

[–]onelasttime0h [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I really don't see it. Having a friend who makes a Dexter joke or taking a picture including your goddaughter does not qualify a person for death threats in my opinion.

These accusations are at best a mass psychosis akin to the Salem trials and at worst a political bludgeon engineered by Trump supporters.

[–]serenity10 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm so high and confused right now dude. It's like shillception in here, I need to start tagging folks.

[–]rodental -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pizzagate is real, but David Seaman destroyed himself, and was probably just trying to make money in the first place.

[–]Afrobean [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's trying to use YouTube to support himself as an independent journalist. No shit he was trying to make money, I try to make money in my day job too.

[–]cky_stew [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This guy has yet to provide a shred of evidence and even everyone on voat is calling him out for it.

[–]VirulentThoughts 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (72子コメント)

14 day old account trying to repair Seaman's reputation. Nice.

[–]WarSanchez 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (67子コメント)

And those upvotes for this came in fast. LOL

I didn't even read it yet, just noticed a lot of votes on a NEW submission.

[–]VirulentThoughts 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (65子コメント)

Top of rising in under 20 minutes. Nothing to see here folks.

[–]pipeb0mb 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (64子コメント)

  • cant discredit PG
  • comes here to discredit Seaman instead.

Nice proxy

[–]totally_not_a_pirate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't acknowledge, don't reply, downvote, report, and move on

[–]ruleten 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/jV3rOM1.png

[–]Ninjakick666 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yet another healthcode violation! When will these monsters be stopped? I've seen their sour cream on the floor in the walk in... I saw the improper clearance on the shelves full of pizza sauce... the construction without a permit... the liquor licence violations... no permits for a live show... Don't make me check out the plumbing on their handwashing sinks.

[–]ruleten 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I go to pizza hut and see people rolling around in blood in dog collars all the time.

I say to my friend, this is normal, lets bring our kids here to eat. I hear they have sleepovers with politicians.

[–]Ninjakick666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sounds like a great place for a "Pizza Parrrty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJh6jgnqn_s

[–]ruleten 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Personally, I'm a fan of all the sexualization of food and children on Instagram done by the owner and his friends. I find that normal because I'm a fucking retard who loves watching people sexualize slices of pizza on social media.

[–]Ninjakick666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can blame American Pie for making food fucking mainstream.

[–]justforthissubred 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your comment is spot on. Thank you.

[–]ruleten 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

Sorry I can't view your Comedy Central propaganda, they've used lawyers to prevent me without a VPN (which will also soon be illegal)

[–]Ninjakick666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yer missing out... its pretty damned funny/sad... Sacrificing children to Baphomet, Rich folks hunting kids at resorts, sleepovers with saudi princes, storing children in boxes, parents selling their kids, & child torture... all with a comedic spin.

[–]VirulentThoughts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (23子コメント)

If by "pg" you mean pizzagate, then I could discredit it, but crusaders will say I'm a shill and frankly, it isn't worth my time anymore.

If by "PG" you are referring to global human sex trafficking of minors, I have no intention of attempting to discredit it. It is a real problem that should be fully investigated using every reasonable means.

I don't think the pedophilia within the government stems from satanic rituals. I think it stems from espionage attempts and I think both the Clinton family and the Bush family approved CIA operations involving the use of child prostitutes or allowed such operations, organized by foreign powers, to be run on American soil without prosecution.

Fuck all of them.

I think Alefantis is a restaurant owner who was in love with David Brock and got caught up in a shitstorm of manufactured pedo-rage or by now, something absolutely concrete tying him to more than catering would have turned up.

[–]ruleten 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (15子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/jV3rOM1.png

[–]VirulentThoughts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

I don't find this particularly offensive. I've been to live drag shows before.

"Artists" do fucked up shit. That is what artists are. People who are really good at doing fucked up shit.

[–]RikaMX 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

That's a kid's place.

[–]errantdashingseagull 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you see any kids in that photo?

[–]RikaMX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not what I said at all, that's a kid's place.

It's weird to do that shit and it's weirder to do it in a place that is meant to be filled with kids.

[–]VirulentThoughts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

So is Dave and Busters, until the MMA fights are on or the clock hits 11.

Businesses can be family friendly and still have adult only features.

[–]RikaMX -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ok, so MMA is the same as that.

Yeah if you can't see a difference there then I can't help you much, proceed with your day man.

[–]pipeb0mb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

crusaders will say I'm a shill

Straight from the same mind-set you reject. holding undue bias is obvious. In this case OP makes thread. You call op a whatever and say 14 day old account, from that were meant to think he's a shill? nit-picking comments set off my alarm. Care to explain why someone's energy should go towards criticizing youtubers here instead of say, the comments section? Or watch a different channel? Or doing your own research and posting a link?

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    [–]pipeb0mb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    sorry you haven't seen my submission history.

    • open profiles

    don't block me plz

    [–]drop_the_hammer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There was that 850k payment from Brock to Alefantis which is officially reported as a "blackmail" payment. Alefantis obviously had proof of something shady, even if it wasn't pedo-related.

    That being said, if this is indeed a global ring implicating dozens of people, one person's potential involvement or knowledge isn't relatively that important.

    [–]Ninjakick666 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    All the reports say 850k but I read the court documents and is was actually 1.7m... I dunno how every major news outlet got that wrong... it was 850k x2.

    [–]justforthissubred -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    100% these are black ops. Good post. I also think that the whole "satanic" aspect of this is disinfo to try and make anyone looking into this seem like a nutcase and discredit any investigations. Like they say, if a kid says he was abused by his gym teacher it gets attention -but if he says he was abused by a bunch of guys wearing devil masks and holding candles, everyone thinks the kid is crazy.

    I do think that Alefantis's business is somewhat of a front though. He's tied into this somehow. Too may cozy relationships with people like Hastert/Podestas. Probably part of the trafficking/blackmail network. Possibly not, but I lean to think he is.

    [–]WarSanchez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (29子コメント)

    The vasy majority of Voat and Reddit that are pro-PG distrust everyone on this list of famous YT "Investigators". Read the Voat comments, they give good insight to what a bullshit post this was. If the person is confessing, why not link HIS ACTUAL CONTENT.

    [–]pipeb0mb -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (28子コメント)

    The vasy majority of Voat and Reddit that are pro-PG distrust everyone on this list.

    Firstly, there is no such thing as Pro pizagate. Secondly, Speak for yourself, and. Last but not least, certain groups think their flaws are actually perfections, and they seek to impose their "perfections" on the rest of us. Why not post a YouTube Investigator thread (for the vast majority)?

    [–]WarSanchez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (27子コメント)

    Because I don't believe in PG, I don't look up PG content. But I can tell you someone should do actual journalism and work if they want to be called a "researcher".

    There are rings of pedos all over the world, shit most of the actual sex abuse stuff happens at the victims homes or by people they are related to.

    But please, lend me your expertize. Tell me about how you read something online and that convinced you that most politicians are pedo child eating/killing satanists.

    [–]pipeb0mb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I don't look up PG content

    But posts in the threads!

    [–]WarSanchez 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I don't look up PG content on YT. The problem is?

    I read and comment on about 35% of everything I see here as much as I can, including PG stuff. Rather read for 5 minutes than watch a 30min video.

    [–]ruleten -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (20子コメント)

    http://i.imgur.com/jV3rOM1.png

    is it legal to do this in the dining area of a pizza shop?

    [–]CarlTheRedditor 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    http://i.imgur.com/jV3rOM1.png

    is it legal to do this in [privately-owned property]

    Think about it.

    [–]Ninjakick666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Nope... they need to wear a shirt that covers their armpits if they are gonna be in a dining area...

    [–]ruleten 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    thank god restaurants have a ton of regulations regardless of their ownership.

    [–]MightyRushOfEagles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    But that's [privately-owned property] where food is prepared. I'm pretty sure we have rules about [privately-owned property] where food is prepared and sold so that gross shit doesn't happen where food is being served.

    I guess you could argue that buddy here is laying on the floor and they don't serve pizza on the floor.

    [–]errantdashingseagull -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    First, that doesn't appear to be the dining area. Second, does a health code violation justify a half-year long smear campaign and witch hunt?

    [–]ruleten 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    they eat pizza all around the ping pong tables. there is a table clearly depicted in the image.

    rocket science, apparently, this is.

    [–]HashtagDadJoke 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Combination of vote bots and Seaman not being popular in this sub.

    There's bots on both sides of this.

    [–]andywarhaul 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Who needs video games anymore when you can just LARP from behind the safety of a computer screen

    [–]WisdomModifier [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    The counter-shill game is strong.

    [–]NotedAccount -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Noted.

    [–]Guessimagirl 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Provides zero evidence. Cute.

    [–]itsajaguar 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I was paid to push to Pizza gate and to paint anyone who attacked it as a shill. This is true because I said it was.

    [–]1000100001 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You discredited #pizzagate, but never came on Reddit? I'm not buying it.

    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (46子コメント)

    I'm not going to voat because of the child exploitation that occurs there on /v/YoungLadies etc

    But does the OP link to any of his old accounts he used? Any pay statements?

    [–]sh3rog 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (42子コメント)

    https://www.reddit.com/user/YouHaveCancer_/submitted/

    "child exploitation on /v/youngladies"

    Why are you submitting images to /r/barelylegalteens if you're worried about child exploitation?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (41子コメント)

    Those girls are of legal age, unlike the ones on voat.

    [–]sh3rog 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (40子コメント)

    hahahahahahahahahaha

    you're weird like that

    "It's art. Have you read Lolita?"

    "I can't find ages but this is photography art."

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so I don't get it - either you're for sexualized imagery and depictions of children or you're against it

    Which is it?

    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (39子コメント)

    I'm against child exploitation and abuse.

    I'm for free artistic expression.

    [–]sh3rog 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (38子コメント)

    Oh so you get to decide which is which?

    /r/barelylegalteens sure sounds exploitative to me

    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (37子コメント)

    ... Yet it says legal right in the name.

    [–]sh3rog -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (36子コメント)

    Legal things can be exploitative you know right? No one is saying /v/youngladies is illegal - if you are, then I suggest you report it to the authorities

    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (35子コメント)

    You're the one that's so concerned with child safety you accuse strangers on the internet of being complicit in a global pedo ring.

    Why don't you report it to the authorities.

    [–]sh3rog 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (33子コメント)

    It's weird how all your comments are on /r/conspiracy, but all your submissions are on questionable subreddits dedicated to sexual images of possibly underage girls

    Also you claim you're into twinks - it's almost like you're just submitting images to those subreddits to get easy karma to make your account look more credible....

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    [–]OptimalDelusion -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you accuse strangers on the internet of being complicit in a global pedo ring.

    Eh, no, he did not?

    [–]sh3rog 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    But does the OP link to any of his old accounts he used? Any pay statements?

    Trying to find out who's snitching are you?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/barelylegalteens/comments/5x9nxa/green_bracelet/

    "I don't goto /v/youngladies because of child exploitation, but I do submit to /r/barelylegalteens"

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    [–]d121212 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    nuh uh.

    [–]ethermodalities[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    not a shill either way. just passing on info. you will see.