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Nice guy vs Asshole, who doesn't care? (self.MGTOW)

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So, I've always been the typical nice guy, I used to put girls on a fucking pedestal, never been a SIMP though. From learning through my own experiences, being in relationships, It is seems that nice guys always finish last, from everything that I've concluded so far, through my experiences and listening to fellow red pillers and MGTOW Men. How should I treat women from now on knowing this, since I can't go on like I was, it has left me nothing but sorrow and heartbreak. It would be helpful for your opinions, because I am a new MGTOW user, and I'd like to get deep into it. If someone could guide me in the right direction, I'd be grateful, and I'd really appreciate it.

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[–]murvish45 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Treat yourself like the buyer. "Why should i give this woman my time?" Vs "i hope she spends time with me and gives me attention"

If you can internalize that you'll be miles ahead of the average simp. Dudes treat women they've never met with absolute reverence despite not knowing anything.

Read rational male. Internalize it.

[–]SgtMGTOW 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mark Manson, a former PUA author, has a very solid post about this. https://markmanson.net/change-your-mind It's about dating, but it applies to this post. A few snippets.

"…That instead of feeling the need to impress them, you could wonder if they impress you?

…That instead of sitting there silently wondering what to say next to make them like you, you could sit there silently wondering what they will say to make you like them?"

[–]murvish45 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Haha I've never read that book! I read rational male and a bit of roosh, but decided to figure things out by experimenting

[–]SgtMGTOW 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually one of the most rational in my opinion.

Talks a lot about focusing on your self improvement, and maybe 25% is about women.

[–]lie-deflector 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've personally been trying to treat women as true equals as an MGTOW. Whatever I would do for a man I would do for a woman. For me, if a man asks for help lifting something I would gladly help him, so likewise I do the same for women. What I won't do is babysit a woman and do everything for her that I normally would tell a man "suck it up Nancy"

Of course this may seem like going back to being a nice guy, but the difference is you need to learn to separate the women you wanna shag with the women you don't care to.

Be mr. Nice guy for a female friend you have no interest in, but make sure the woman you wanna get with knows that you're not here to play games. Don't go out of your way to lend a helping hand. You only want one thing, and that's some action.

And if she isn't interested in a fling then you aren't interested in spending your time around her. Your time is worth just as much as hers and there is no reason for you or her to think otherwise.

Granted this doesn't mean become an asshole to the women you like, but don't waste your time on a failed prospect either.

Ironically rejecting a woman like that sometimes make them chase you more, depending how much they value your attention. A low quality loner male won't garner much attention, but a guy who can just go find another girl to talk to becomes much more valuable to other women.

This is all assuming you're interested in going after women. I myself don't care to, I can spend my energy doing more productive things. But each to their own.

[–]carini_bustout 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I treat all with respect. But when I see, for example, a woman of ANY age acting like an unhinged toddler - all based on their deranged sense of entitlement and superiority in this whacked-out feminist shitstorm we live in - I call them out like a master telling his dog down. It's better to just ignore their existence altogether. But..

If some woman is sitting through a green light texting and you honk your horn for her to get moving, and she pulls over along side of you to scream at you "You need to settle down!", then.. whoo boy. I won't take that kind of twisted hubris sitting down.. They'll get called a cunt to their face, loudly and clearly. Now keep in mind, this actually happened a couple weeks ago, and the bitch went.. fucking.. craaazy. Tried to follow me, run me off the road, get my license, prob called the authorities. That's how nuts they are. They'll burn the entire world to the ground to get you back for calling them a name, with fake reports of assault or whatever the fuck comes to mind. AND, this is AFTER she pulled over to yell at ME about beeping my horn at her for her texting at the wheel while stopped at a green light. wtf

There's no end to the entitlement and untethered anger. Gotta fight that level of raw hostility right back. She wanted me to be the obedient slave to her chastising me and say "Oh sorry about that, just didn't want to sit through that green light back there while you texted", where she would have scolded me further. Laughing and pointing at them is a good tactic too - that's both nice guy and a-hole in one. My buddy gives crazy entitled bitches a thumbs down. Just holds is arm out at them, and turns his thumb down. hehe. Talk about rattling a monkey cage. whew