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Rant/VentingAnyone Else Put Off By Highly Rational Women? (self.TheRedPill)

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I'm currently in a fuck-buddy relationship with a highly rational woman. She's a career woman, very independent, makes her own money, doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them. By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with. This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

I always feel like it's a trap and they're going to switch it up on me at any moment...

Or maybe I just prefer highly emotional & chaotic women. Who knows.

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[–]Muginns 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are in her 'pool' of stand-bys. If you wait long enough and have heaps of money she might choose you to be sacrificed. You lucky guy!

[–]1Woujo 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mike Tyson has a famous quote: everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. Here is my corollary: everybody is rational until their emotions act up. These "rational" people are no more "rational" than anybody else; they just have built their life such that their emotions are harder to trip. But if the right set of circumstances happen, their emotions will act up too.

She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with.

Yeah you're her plate.

[–]pateuvasiliu 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

By all accounts, she has a very red pill view on relationships. She prefers casual hook ups

You do realise the red pill has a pretty negative view on women with a high CC count?

she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with.

You mean after she's done fucking her share of alphas she'll settle for a beta.

Seriously nothing about this woman is red pill. Unless you mean she acts like a red pill dude in a man body. We call those sluts.

[–]SgtBuchanon74 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (6子コメント)

100 bucks its all a front. Continue treating her like the neighborhood slut. You just have oneitis and are falling for "this ones different" its called game. Girls have game, too. Shes holding frame, but if you hold yours longer - hers will shatter and she will become submissive like every other bitch she claims she isnt.

Sidebar.

[–]stop_right_there1 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why are you so triggered over the mention of a rational woman? Do you not realize how transparent your hatred/jealousy of women is? Lol.

[–]CharlieMungerReader 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She probably has enough knowledge to play a rich beta out there.

I was just at trader Joe's and the guy in front of me in line was bragging to the cashier how great the Ferrari he bought his wife was (assuming wife and not girlfriend but don't know what's better). The phrase I remember was "and it's all hers".

Hey but that women was more rational than that man. Men have spinning hamster wheels too and most of it is jealousy of some perceived imbalance.

[–]SgtBuchanon74 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Go suck a dildo, chumbucket.

[–]D0WNV0TE_ME_PLS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look out guys we have an alpha male 14 year old redpiller, look out!!!

[–]theONE843663 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Downvoted you​ as per your request good sir.

[–]tubarao312 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You've gotten so used to dealing with shit that Alpha women put you off

[–]TouchMyDuck 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thanks for explaining this place. It's where beta males learn to snag beta women. I'm fresh out of an r'ship with a beta female and I don't want anything but a smart alpha woman who inspires me and keeps me on my toes. I used to be more TRP-minded, even the alpha-beta thing is bullshit. At 25 and having had relationships I'd say hating successful women is just an insecure beta thing. Good luck!

[–]CharlieMungerReader 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes! The more I read red pill the more I think about this. I don't want to be taken advantage of but I don't want to be with a happy ever after beta women either.

[–]theONE843663 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol that's the blue pill still clutching you. If you don't want an innocent 19yr old girl good at housekeeping, treats you like God, follows orders... then something is messed up in your head. You, as a man, have failed if you find extremely submissive feminine women to be a would be 'prospect'.

[–]CharlieMungerReader 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe I'm jaded lol. For me, "an innocent 19yr old girl good at housekeeping, treats you like God, follows orders" seems too good to be true. I stay away from things that are too good to be true.

The "extremely submissive feminine women to be a would be 'prospect" is you trying to put words in my mouth.

[–]theONE843663 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is no such thing as an Alpha female. They're all sluts to fuck around with​. You mofos are over complicating things. It's simple: You're the Alpha, she's just a bitch. Bitches come in different flavours but she's still getting fucked.

[–]tubarao312 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A girl raised by an alpha dad and good mother behaves differently

[–]alexander_the_groovy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% agreed. This stems from the fact that we are attracted to feminine women, and being hyper rational is not a feminine characteristic. These career-driven types are often well presented and physically attractive but their personalities are garbage.

[–]1max_peenor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with

Dunno. Just don't be that guy.

[–]murvish45 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've been used to shit sandwiches for years and now you got a ham on rye. Your skepticism is warranted

[–]stop_right_there1 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is impossible for men to be happy. Male logic... complain about women being irrational, then irrationally complain about rational women. 😂

[–]oloug 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People are not ruled by reason. They only use reason to justify their passions.

[–]smirk_addict 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so fucking relieved by a woman that can honest and direct about her intentions. You think it's a trap but you have no problem screwing highly emotional and chaotic women? What's the trap? That the logical women turn out to be highly emotional and chaotic?? What are you even saying.

[–]joeyjojosharknado 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm approaching 50 and I've known and dated several women like this. AWALT still applies, the hamster still spins (at a faster rate than regular girls, if anything). These women are still searching for 'Mr Perfect', who of course doesn't exist in the real world.

They can't maintain relationships because they have created an impossible standard, but won't compromise because of their ego. As they get older, they get more desperate and wild-eyed. Their attitude results in them riding the CC longer and harder than most women, and their 1000 yard stare is PTSD Vietnam vet level.

They'll also blame everyone and everything but themselves for their failure to achieve the shining goal they set themsleves. So yeah, not good women to have in your life.

[–]BasebornLion 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Red pill"? Is she masculine? Or does she support traditional feminine roles. I'm really tired of stupid comments that replace "red pill" with masculine and then defeat the entire purpose of the metaphor for "truth".

[–]PhucCheet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm really tired of stupid comments that replace "red pill" with masculine

Only a major beta would confuse the two, so overwhelmed by RP masculinity that he internally blurs the two together. ("The red pill will make me more of a man!" instead of "The red pill will show me a truth"). But this sub is full of betas in wolfskin clothing.

[–]JSizzl3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're basically messing with a guy, or in other words she's a feminist who does everything right to get the dick she wants, and keeps it on a leash.

[–]smallnakk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was seeing a girl like this not too long ago and to be honest, yea, there was no sexual tension and it was boring as hell for me.

[–]generalmeng 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rational is good. Bottom line, fuck it out

[–]BullshittingNonsense 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah she sounds like a major bitch. Waiting for the right prospect? Lol, the baby fever will hit her or the sad loneliness will hit her in a few years when she realizes no one wants to fuck her

[–]spazgamz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dating a girl like that is like bringing doughnuts to the wrong meeting.

[–]untonyto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know the type, it's not the fact they are rational that is so off-putting for me. It is how they wield their "Rationalism" like a weapon in literally every discussion, as if they are better than everybody else and end up talking down their partners. How is this red pill?

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of this time this is a BS front, OP. I know several such females. It's similar to the feminists; they take control of all the other areas in life because they secretly want to be choked, spanked, fucked hard from behind like an animal, and all around dominated in a variety of ways.

She's trying to plate you, which is smart on her, but if you fuck her really good - you'll be in a top spot (if that's your goal, of course). Amazing sex will change even the most prudish/alpha queen bitch game real quick. Hit the clit switch and watch her attitude toward you shift, lol.

I've yet to experience one that WASN'T like this.

[–]DarkRenaissance 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe what you find off putting is your gut telling you that she's just a woman like any other. It doesn't matter what she says, she is still a woman, AWALT. Sooner or later she will behave like any other woman does with a person she's sexual with - demanding commitment, resources etc. The only thing she needs is a man with a much higher SMV than hers who knows not to take her too seriously and doesn't believe a word she says. Suddenly she remembers her place. Now she's highly emotional and chaotic too.

A rational woman is not rational like a man is. No man will come home from a STEM job and say 'Oh God, lets not talk about work anymore', but damn near every STEM woman will. It is just a front to see who blinks first.

Enjoy the hell out of being her fuck buddy.

[–]InSunlightWeBelong 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"A fuck-buddy relationship" Here we just call that a plate. Spinning a plate should be fairly effortless and not take too much thought however clearly this lady's rational talking has gotten to you so I will say one thing;

Women hate rational talk - they are driven by their emotions. If you have rational talk with a woman then her pussy will dry up like the Nevada desert. Men love rational talk - it is our default state. However be careful of a woman that uses rational talk. This may cause you to use rational talk and subsequently dry her up.

[–]2JamesSkepp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who knows.

I do :D

TL/DR - you're put off b/c she has the actual control over your "relationship", even tho you lead in sexual context.

doesn't want a relationship nor does she have the time for them.

She prefers casual hook ups until she finds the right "prospect" (her words) to eventually settle down with.

Pure AF/BB, nothing new besides verbalizing it in more open and clear way than most girls. That type of honesty should be encouraged, the empirical proof serves men a lot, RP or not.

This is all well and good, and we have fun, but I don't know...Something is deeply off-putting about her and women like this

  1. She know's what's up in m-f relations.

  2. She puts it to practice.

  3. She has abundance mentality (as any attractive woman does) in "sex" m-f interactions.

  4. She has abundance mentality (has her life on where she wants it and doesn't need to rely on a man to get her there) in $ department.

  5. She has choices, both in "men to fuck" and "men to marry" categories.

  6. You're expendable, you have nothing unique she can't get from anywhere else.

  7. She knows it, so do you - you just can't put your finger on it so you interpret it as "off putting".

If 1-7 seems familiar - that's because it's basically what TRP says a man should become to be successful in sexual market, long term or short.

You would need either to be - top AF for her (you're FB, so I assume you already are AF anyway) or have much higher status/SMV to be considered BB after she's done with AF - to have "leverage/power" over her. Currently you have nothing she can't get from any other man (or get herself).

Anyone Else Put Off By Highly Rational Women?

It's not "rationality", it's balance of power not in your favour.