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Millwall face action after fans target Spurs forward Heung-min Son with racist chants in FA Cup tieVerified account (twitter.com)

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[–]mitmap1 419 ポイント420 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Stay classy Millwall

[–]Charlton AthleticThe-Go-Kid 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Fuck 'em all."

[–]Crystal Palace10CPFC 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (16子コメント)

They're stuck at a crossroad

[–]Newcastle UnitedFreeJerry 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What's up with the Turkish flag?

[–]West Ham UnitedThe_baboons_ass 133 ポイント134 ポイント  (3子コメント)

A few Leeds fans got stabbed in Turkey a few years back. Classy Millwall supporters thought it'd be class to support the Turks

[–]Leeds Unitedma_ja_mcc 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably to do with them mocking Leeds fans. They do it regularly.

[–]Leeds UnitedLDKRZ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doesn't everyone who 'hates' us do it? I mean the teams are usually relevant but still.

[–]Leeds Unitedma_ja_mcc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well Huddersfield had a Turkey flag last time we played them and Wednesday pretty much always chant Turkey chants. Millwall is on another level though.

[–]Liverpoolintecknicolour 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

extinction, zoo, kent?!

come on that's mean.

[–]Tottenham HotspurYoshi2010 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Bit harsh on the zoo, putting it only one rung above Kent

[–]Watfordtheunderstoodsoul 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kent, otherwise known as the garden of England? It's a lot nicer than Tottenham.

[–]Tottenham HotspurYoshi2010 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone's never been to Margate

[–]Watfordtheunderstoodsoul 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair, Canterbury is one of my favourite cities in the UK though.

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    [–]Odense BKXuzto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ha, that's great

    [–]AaBFredix 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    They are Joey Barton of clubs.

    [–]PeruMessisfoot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Death, taxes, and Millwall fans being racist, it seems.

    [–]FeyenoordBalestro 175 ポイント176 ポイント  (22子コメント)

    I don't understand how one area of London can have so many idiots. Millwall as a club don't seem that bad, they do great work in the community. But why do these hooligans all collect around one club?

    [–]Southend Unitedduckwantbread 154 ポイント155 ポイント  (18子コメント)

    It's pretty simple, if you want to support a club and be a hooligan it makes more sense to choose one where there are other people like you supporting it. Millwall has that reputation so people like that gravitate to it. It is only a minority though, most Millwall fans are fine, it's just a bigger minority than most clubs have so they have enough people to actually get the club in trouble.

    [–]maxoys45 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    It's also a shithole part of london

    [–]Arsenaldeptford 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Just down the road from SE8 and while it is not Knightsbridge, it is not a shithole. They just have a hardcore of idiots who think they are Dave Courtney

    [–]maxoys45 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Have you been around the area near the stadium? It's horrible

    [–]QuentinSandstorm 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah I live a minute away from The Den and it's not nice, I love this part of London but anything above Old Kent Road is pretty much just industrial estates.

    [–]Barnetradioslave 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Cracking Tarves offlicense at Greenwich station though

    [–]Watfordtheunderstoodsoul 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I mean, it's called the Isle of Dogs...

    [–]tomgreenwich 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Would you say the same about bethnal green?

    [–]maxoys45 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Can't say I've been around there loads, parts of it are rank yeah but it's also considered "cool" now so becoming more gentrified.

    [–]tomgreenwich 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    yeah that's definitely true, i'm from greenwich (username makes that obvious i know!) and have family all over S, SE and E London, some parts are shocking but the prices are crazy. I just sold my one bed flat for £300k, nuts.

    [–]maxoys45 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    exactly, insane prices. Just makes you think "wish i'd bought there X years ago"

    [–]arjie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Just moved down to SE16 and it's really quite nice. I don't know what you're on about. I'm out by the river. It's all gentrified to high heaven.

    [–]QuentinSandstorm 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Den is surrounded by fairly rough council estates, industrial estates and a fuck off big recycling plant, it's not a pleasant area that's for sure.

    [–]maxoys45 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Probably bad wording, I mean the area right near the stadium

    [–]arjie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh. I'll take your word for it. I could see that being the case. I was actually considering going to see what a game's like (despite Millwall's reputation) and now I don't think I will.

    [–]maxoys45 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Haha well i actually went to a game last week. Bit of a laugh but the standard was pretty dire :D

    [–]AC MilanCromulent-Username 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Great - not only does /r/soccer mock my club, now mocks my neighbourhood too

    [–]HJKWhosaiditended 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    lol I know right. I live within a 15 minute walk of The Den and I swear it's a nice place :(

    [–]Charlton AthleticThe-Go-Kid 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't get it, and my club is only 4 miles away. I mean, I do see some really unpleasant people following Charlton, and some really aggressive young men, but they've got nothing on Millwall. Even though these people live and work in the same areas.

    [–]SteamingPileOfDung 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's cultural.

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      [–]West Ham UnitedNouveauSarfas 214 ポイント215 ポイント  (66子コメント)

      South Korea international Son was subjected to chants of ‘DVD’ and ‘he’s selling three for a fiver’ by a section of the travelling Millwall fans at White Hart Lane.

      FFS.

      [–]Tottenham HotspurBafa94 321 ポイント322 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      He sold them 3 goals, the idiots.

      [–]Tottenham Hotspurdrunkwithanxiety 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Didn't even cost them a fiver.

      [–]Liverpoolintecknicolour 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      well it cost them more considering those ticket prices and the bus fare across town.

      [–]LiverpoolR0B0TF00D 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Turns out they were actually shouting 'VDV' in appreciation for Spurs legend Rafael van der Vaart.

      [–]Odense BKXuzto 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      *Midtjylland legend

      [–]ArsenalGusCaesar 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      So literally exactly what they used to call their own player Lee Yung Pyo.

      Not justifying it, but if you're being consistent they should have been in trouble every game he played.

      [–]Southend Unitedduckwantbread 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      Yep there's a whole forum thread from 2007 of Spurs fans giving him 'nicknames' here

      [–]Arsenalcowinabadplace 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Bloody hell.

      he has some good nicknames such as ping pong and kung po chicken in the stands :snooty::snooty:

      Come on Po!
      I love that one. :lol:

      He'll shoot
      He'll score
      He'll eat your labrador
      YP Leeeeee
      YP Leeeeee

      [–]Manchester UnitedWildVariety 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Our main chant about Ji Sung Park involved him eating dogs.

      Park, Park

      Wherever you may be,

      You eat dogs in your own country,

      Could be worse, could be scouse

      Eating rats in ya council house

      [–]Manchester CityINM8_2 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      i thought it was "home country."

      and to be fair, it's probably accurate. also more insulting to liverpool than it is koreans.

      source: am korean. loved park despite club allegiance. not a dog eater.

      [–]LinfieldIshguet 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      What? Probably accurate? If anything that is way more insulting than the 3 for a fiver chant...

      [–]Manchester CityINM8_2 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      koreans eating dogs? it's still a very common thing to eat even though it's popularity isn't as high as it used to be. i don't eat it, but you can find places that serve dog everywhere in korea.

      [–]LinfieldIshguet 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes but that's actively targeting Korean culture for mocking because it's different from our own and because people are repulsed by that they are trying to shame Koreans with a chant like that.

      Chanting that he's selling dvds is such a non issue, especially if you are allowing dog eating chants.

      It's like allowing a chant mocking black people for eating fried chicken because its probably true but then getting really offended by chants about them selling knock off watches

      [–]willgeld 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He'll shoot
      He'll score
      He'll eat your labrador
      YP Leeeeee
      YP Leeeee

      Hahaha, brilliant

      [–]FC AugsburgFakerPlaysSkarner 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (19子コメント)

      How is this racist? Not trying to defend the chants, I just don't get the context here. Maybe it's a UK specific thing I'm not aware of.

      [–]Tottenham HotspurREEPERz 190 ポイント191 ポイント  (17子コメント)

      it is a uk/London thing, stereotype to do with Asians selling cheap DVDs

      [–]Leicester Citymaxdembo 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      Not even very accurate either. They're usually Chinese.

      [–]Houston Dynamojhnhines 275 ポイント276 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      I don't expect racists to be very intelligent people who understand the nuances the Asian cultures.

      [–]Tottenham HotspurREEPERz 107 ポイント108 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Probably think Asia is a country

      [–]Norwich CityKreativeHawk 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just gonna leave this here:

      https://youtu.be/gyxoRivN1QY

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        [–]Odense BKXuzto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Couldn't it just be part of the insult?

        [–]Leicester Citymaxdembo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I wasn't being entirely serious. Obviously being wilfully ignorant is part of the backwards humour for these dullards.

        [–]willgeld 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Or Turkish

        [–]am1wrong 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Also, most Asians I've come across that sell DVD's, sell them at stupidly high prices(yes, I'm talking about used DVD's)

        [–]ArsenalEvasions 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Nah it's not used DVD's it's just little plastic packs with an a4 piece of paper of the dvd cover folded over a DVD that they've just burnt onto the disc. I can't really think of another way to describe it than this but I'll look for a picture

        Edit: They look like this and the people selling them are usually Asian men with backpacks to carry them around in. I've seen people here say it about barber shops and tbh I've seen it a few times but it's more common in pubs from my experience at least.

        [–]Wormatia Wormsdrwormtmbg 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Bootlegs

        [–]LiverpoolRevanxv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yeah, anime DVD's and blu-ray's are expensive as fuck ;)

        [–]Queens Park RangersDeadend_Friend 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I've literally never heard of that stereotype before

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          [–]WokingPenguinKenny -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          From an English TV show called Fonejacker https://youtu.be/QDRtka7UZTc

          [–]Rapid Bucureștiionelp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          At least he has a job...

          [–]FeyenoordBalestro -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (24子コメント)

          Some comments in the match thread were defending it and calling it "tame".

          [–]Englandltd16 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          It is tame compared to things like hissing and sol campbell chants

          [–]Charlton AthleticThe-Go-Kid 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          More a damning indictment really. If you have to put it into that context to make it feel tame.

          [–]Huddersfield TownRenzolol -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's rare without context?

          Saying the guys sells DVDs? Oh no whatever shall we do!

          [–]heroinprince 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I know the hissing but what are the sol Campbell chants?

          [–]Manchester Citytitykaka 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Sol, Sol, wherever you may be,

          You’re on the verge of lunacy,

          And we don’t give a fuck when you’re hanging from a tree,

          Judas cunt with HIV

          _

          Heeeyyyy'

          sol Campbell, Judas

          i wanna know' ooo why you're such a cunt.

          [–]ChelseaMoistJesus 140 ポイント141 ポイント  (17子コメント)

          I mean for a racist football chant this is as soft as it comes

          [–]Barcelonaleorino 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (14子コメント)

          Flair checks out

          [–]Tottenham Hotspurbrougmj 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Says the Chelsea fan.

          [–]ArsenalZzzonked_ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You would know all about racist football chants.

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            [–]Nottingham ForestCoolica1 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Action amounting to a small fine? Fucking brilliant, that'll show them! Until the next big game they're in when they'll do it again and repeat the same bloody cycle. When is real action going to be taken against this club and those specific dickhead fans? The FA need to grow some balls for once and do something meaningful that will stop this from happening.

            [–]LiverpoolMark_Kozelek 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Racist scum can't be trusted to support their own fucking players. They should be banned from their team's stadium indefinitely.

            [–]Toronto FCDeargan96 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            M8 you can't ban all racist scum from Millwall matches, they'll lose about 70% of their support

            [–]Brisbane Roarjoelisaprick 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            and now the line has been crossed, ffs stop blaming the whole club & fanbase for a group of cunts

            [–]Manchester Unitedmocthezuma 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I guess the humiliation on the pitch wasn't enough for Millwall today.

            [–]Manchester UnitedEight_Two 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Didn't see that coming

            Said no one ever.

            [–]Manchester Cityincarnatethegreat 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Queue the 'Black Books' Millwall joke.

            [–]AC MilanDvorakAttack 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Millwall, Millwall. They're all really dreadful, and all their wives are unfulfilled and alienated.

            [–]Manchester Cityincarnatethegreat 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "Ah! Skinheads! Perfect!"

            [–]Arsenal1Wallet0Pence 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (8子コメント)

            Why am I not surprised

            [–]LiverpoolThesolly180 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Gas noises and DVD chants, the mentality of some of those supporters is amazing.

            [–]Tottenham HotspurJackariasd 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Gas noises happens in the away end at pretty much every WHL game

            [–]lazerlandb 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Gas noises? Are they farting in your stadium?

            [–]Arsenal1Wallet0Pence 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Gas chambers in concentration camps; Spurs have a historically Jewish fan base.

            [–]lazerlandb 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            genuinely didn't know that.

            [–]Tottenham Hotspurmappsy91 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            also he's exaggerating a tad there, it definitely doesn't happen at every WHL game.

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              [–]InternazionaleSmugleaf_Raptors2012 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It's Millwall.

              [–]LiverpoolPM_ME_PUSSIES_NOW 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              And in other news grass is still green.

              [–]Tottenham HotspuriWinston 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Good.

              [–]Tottenham HotspurGeauxSpurs 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Is anyone actually surprised

              [–]Liverpoolintecknicolour 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              millwall supporters racially abusing another team's players?

              it's just another sunday. no strange behavior going on here.

              [–]jpty 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Think I heard some hissing too.

              [–]FeyenoordBalestro 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It could have easily been shushing.

              [–]Manchester UnitedHawks_2008 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (13子コメント)

              Why are Milwall fans like this? Is it a rough part of London or do they just like living up to their stereotype/reputation as hooligans.

              [–]Arsenaldarthlewis1 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (5子コメント)

              Yes it is a rough part of London, and their fan-base is mostly white working class men. I grew up near there and there was quite a bit of racism. I guess when you combine the roughness with already prevalent racism, it will be reflected by some of the fans in their chanting and behaviour.

              [–]Chelseateems 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              I've moved out of London, but I've heard that New Cross and Bermondsey is now gentrified.

              Who would have thought.

              [–]Norwich Citytommyncfc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              The bit around the New Den certainly hasn't been gentrified.

              [–]Liverpoolcavejohnsonlemons 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Can confirm, been there once. Was an England women's match so no dickheads around but the road up to the stadium was something, especially at night. People I spoke to were alright and logically I knew I should be fine but the place just had me looking over my shoulder a bit more than usual.

              It's really not saying much coming from me, but definitely the 2nd most uncomfortable experience I've had going to football.

              [–]Newcastle UnitedFreeJerry 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I think it also builds on itself. Once a club starts to get that stereotype, the kind of people who are ok with it (racism, violence, etc.) will gravitate toward the club while those who are put off by it will drift away over time. So it's a self-sorting process combined with an already rough area.

              [–]Liverpoolintecknicolour 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

              they're upset with their situation (i.e. working class/rough neighbourhood, working class white men fanbase)

              and because out of all the teams based in london, they are probably the worst league side in the city.

              [–]Southend UnitedPeterG92 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Leyton Orient are the worst league side

              [–]Leyton Orientiemploreyou 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Steady on

              [–]Toronto FCDeargan96 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              At least they have an excuse though

              [–]Toronto FCDeargan96 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              I beg to differ, anybody who matters knows the 2 biggest clubs in London are Millwall and Dag&Red

              [–]trivran 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              1. Daggers
              2. League side

              Pick one

              ( :c )

              [–]Dagenham & RedbridgeBlatters_PA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              :(

              [–]Borussia Dortmundslash196 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              YOU DON'T SAY

              [–]Eintracht Frankfurtxepa105 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Quelle surprise!

              [–]Leicester Citychornu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I'm happy racism is dealt with appropriately.

              [–]Englandcjgroveuk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              "Hell shoot , hell score

              He`ll eat your labrador.

              Jiii Sungg Park"

              Wasnt this a united chant?

              Not justifying the millwall fans behaviour but what has been the most recent case of action against a teams fans for asian racism? The FA seem to let asian racism slide and this is probably just millwall being targeted

              [–]Western Sydney Wanderers963479 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It is the same here in Aus. My club recently had the book thrown at us for a tangentially homophobic banner (fair punishment) but i remeber other clubs having racist chants against a Japanese player of ours. No penalty for them.

              [–]Newcastle UnitedJonnyArtois 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Bears shit in the woods, sky is blue, water is wet, Millwall fans are scum.

              [–]Toronto FCDeargan96 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Millwall supporters being racist, how surprising

              [–]Newcastle UnitedFreeJerry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Anyone have a clip or recording of the chants? I was listening closely during the match but couldn't really make anything out.

              [–]perkinos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Lmao can't say I'm surprised. Maybe next year do it to Chelsea!

              [–]LiverpoolRoyalCSGO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Millwall are still stuck in the 80's, when it was cool to act hard at football games.

              [–]Leeds UnitedLDKRZ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              True

              [–]LiverpoolPsychobob35 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Color me shocked.

              [–]AtletiUSA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              I still don't understand the justification for blaming/punishing the club for this. These are individual actions taken by idiots, who are acting out with their own free will. Show me where they were instructed to do this and I'll understand and agree completely with punishing the team..

              [–]Baroninthesea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Because it's the best way to stop it. It will encourage good fans standing up against these scums.

              [–]AjaxKrillin113 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Because teams in general know better who are responsible for this sort of behaviour than the league does, they should take action and ban them. It's the same as when you're driving multiple people and a passenger throws a bottle out of the window you'll still be held (partially) accountable.

              [–]Norwich Citytommyncfc -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Oh come on, that barely counts as racism.

              The Yanks on here would actually die if they heard the chants during the East Anglian Derby if this incredibly mild chant disgusts them.

              [–]PolandPole -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Fact: all Millwall fans voted for the Brexit

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