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Racist chanting direct at Park Ji-Sung (self.reddevils)

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I was reading a post on r/soccer regarding the racist chanting directed at Son Heung-Min, where Millwall fans chanted "DVD" and "three for a fiver" whenever he got the ball. This, obviously, made me feel disgusted.

However, what surprised me was a few users who mentioned that Spurs and United fans used to chant about their South Korean players eating dogs (which is just as bad as the chants sung by the Millwall fans, if not worse). I found a link elaborating more on this phenomenon and racism against Koreans in general here. I'm not trying to stir anything up, but when I read about this, I was genuinely disappointed. To me, these chants are clearly stereotyping against Koreans and their perceived behaviour. Just wanted to know if anyone could share their opinions on this? Was the chant sung by a minority or was it very common? This topic is quite controversial, but I think it's hugely relevant given how the modern game's been trying to stand up to racism.

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[–]AttackClown 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Our Park chant was meant to be more of an insult to scousers

"Park, Park wherever you may be, you eat dog in your home country, could be worse, could be scouse, eating rats in your council house".

[–]ManHathawaythe man -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But this chant doesn't really say anything good about Park, it just makes Liverpool look bad which is what confuses people, especially from other cultures.

[–]szehiannn[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

fair enough, then again, "could be worse" kinda shows there's a negative connotation towards the practices of other culture. it's bad that you're eating dog meat, but it could be worse, at least you're not scouse. I may be nitpicking a bit, but I don't think it's a particularly nice chant.

1) It's stereotypical. Don't compare fish and chips to dog meat. Yes, dog meat was consumed in the past, but it's not as widespread as fish and chips. In fact, while it is still consumed now, its consumed way way less than fish and chips in England. When I think of a equivalent to fish and chips, I think of dishes like Bibimbap, not dog meat. (I'm not even Korean)

2) Again regarding my point in the first paragraph, it appears as if a particular practice is being looked down ip

[–]myxo123 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That article is ridiculously biased, almost like it came from North Korea not South.

It is also very likely that match fixing did occur at the South Korean World Cup.

And Koreans do eat dogs, that's not a stereotype it's a fact just like us eating Fish and Chips. Pointing that out isn't racism, because it actually happens and is extremely widespread in Korea.

I personally didn't like or participate in the Park song (the bigger offence in that song is actually the classism towards Liverpool fans) but it's more finding humour in cultural differences than monkey noise style racism.

Racism I'm sure exists against oriental people in the UK (because certain retards are racist towards anyone who isn't white) but compared to against Pakistani/Indian people, Eastern Europeans or Black people it's much less common.

[–]anzhitDe Gea 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I lived in Seoul for 3 months , didn't see anyone eating /selling dogs

[–]ManHathawaythe man 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While it is true that dog is enjoyed and had been quite popular in the past, it is definitely not widespread. Dog butchers were still around in France during the early 90's. Although it is stating a fact, it can also be said that some may have decided not to use that line in a chant because of the obvious negativity perceived in society. Just an extra thought like "If this was chanted about me, it probably wouldn't be my favourite".