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[–]Therandomfox 528 ポイント529 ポイント  (39子コメント)

This meme is fucking ancient.

[–]Benjaphar 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (12子コメント)

What decade is this?

[–]tumkiske 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yes.

[–]The_Dinosaurus_Rex 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

No.

[–]WhetMySelf 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Maybe.

[–]JohnOfScotland 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't know, could you repeat the question?

[–]notwithagoat 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your not the boss of me now!

[–]Redeyeglare 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're not the boss of me now!

[–]aWarbrick89 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not the boss of me now!

[–]MintyChipp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

is that a red line around it from snipping tool?

[–]ProbablyJustAnError 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have never seen it until now, so I am happy lol

[–]xTwizzler 176 ポイント177 ポイント  (7子コメント)

This is r/4panelcringe material.

[–]speakerToHeathens 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was a painful click. Wtf is wrong with people?

[–]furbit73 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But... But... It's only 3 panels...

[–]FridaysMan 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That makes it even more cringeworthy

[–]kimz_nuts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that the future generation?

[–]youreveningcoat 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Also cos the games supposedly would make you WANT to be an NFL pro or a surgeon.

[–]JustGoodOldCumFarts 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Uhh. That might have some merit. Everyone wanted to be a spec ops sniper in eighth grade when cod was huge

[–]glytchypoo 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

mfw kids dont member socom in 8th grade

[–]LadyRenly 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

does fireteam bravo on the psp count?

[–]LadyRenly 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

holy shit, this was me. cringes

[–]ExoHead 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Surgeon Sim makes me want to become a surgeon less.

[–]MailOrderHusband 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The first one desensitised you to sport violence. Makes it look easy to hit stick someone.

The second desensitised you to surgical violence. Made it look easy to cut someone open.

The third desensitised you to weapon violence. Made it look easy to repost this with no fear of being killed.

[–]pm_me_ur_bantz 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (2子コメント)

PEOPLE WHO LIKE FOOTBALL PLAY MADDEN

PEOPLE WHO LIKE SURGERY PLAY SURGEON SIMULATOR

SO WHY WOULD LIKING MURDER MAKE YOU PLAY GTA?

True!

[–]SoundDesperado 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, just think of how many surgeons make up the people who have played Surgeon Simulator.

[–]MoreDetonation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

...I'm on a list, aren't I?

[–]jonquence 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Becoming an NFL player is not up to you.

Becoming a surgeon is also not up to you.

There are tons of things you have to accomplish before you can become a pro athlete or surgeon.

On the other hand, it doesn't take you more than a knife or a gun to become murderer.

Some people just worried that when games or movies can motivate and inspire people to achieve greatness, it could also motivate and inspire you to do bad things.

It's not unreasonable.

[–]Homebruise 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I want to know where all these surgeons and football players that didn't make the decision to pursue their careers are.

[–]ChildrenBittenByCows 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Help I accidentally became a surgeon

[–]WhoreyMatthews -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get what they're saying though, I have to convince a GM to sign me before I can be an NFL player and I need to be admitted by a med school committee before I can become a surgeon.

[–]goplayer7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People who were forced by their parents to make that career choice rather than being given the freedom to do what they want.

[–]Meta0X 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I came in here to say this. This post creates this false equivalence that makes no sense.

Mind you, I've never believed that, in your average stable person, video games cause violent behavior. But still.

[–]Snake101333 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Maybe if you can't differenciate between fantasy and reality yeah I'd be a problem

[–]Cat_Wrangler_Alpha 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well, there are plenty of people who fit that description, no?

[–]KingAltay 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly! People don't realise this. Not everyone who plays games has common sense. Of course people like you and me wouldn't go and become cold blooded murderers even if we spend 1000s of hours playing gta

[–]Snake101333 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

And these are the people who shouldn't be on drugs, playing video games, or even be watching tv.

[–]Cat_Wrangler_Alpha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That sounds simple....

[–]Snake101333 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not too hard to understand, "This is X which is completely different from real life, I shouldn't try to imitate it as it could have dire consequences". The sad part is that's too complicated for some people.

[–]Cat_Wrangler_Alpha 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, it may be more insidious than we suppose, though not always negative. People listening to music play air guitar and imagine they're really in a band rocking out; they buy shirts with superhero logos because they identify with (for example) Batman even though they're not a millionaire, never been in a fist fight, couldn't detect where Waldo is; grow beards and wear flannel for that "lumberjack look" though they've never so much as climbed a tree. I have pics from 1986 of myself dressed as a ninja because I saw Karate Kid Part II once more than I should have, i.e. twice.

In other words, we're all susceptible to emulation. It's not so difficult to think that some will take to video games the same way.

[–]gnarlie_g 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a sad fact of society that stupid people who can't handle their shit ruin (or at least complicate) things for everyone else.

[–]JohnArbalete 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Exactly, even a child understands easily the difference between fiction and reality 100% of the time. Humans are violent in nature, video games, movies, books or sports are just a reflection of that nature not an incentive. And I prefer channeling that violence through harmless games instead of repressing it and pretend it doesn't exist. Plus, no one just wakes up one morning and thinks "I have knife, let's kill", they get there from the accumulation of conflict and desperation or psychological trauma. The fear that trivialities like video games are the cause of violence is just a scapegoat for the real issue that is much much more difficult to fix.

[–]Riodeplata 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I prefer a psychologist rather than expressing my hate in a game. After a while thw game loses its effect and the hate is still there

[–]Bricingwolf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And studies have been showing that "venting" tends to actually make you less happy, more stressed, etc.

[–]Capsule_Corporation -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Studies have also said that vaccinations cause autism.

[–]CupidKnew 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only one that was provably flawed at release, unrepeateable in teh long term and run by a man who was con-incidentally setting up a business to scam people worried about mental illness caused by medicine.

The guy was stripped of his right to work in the field and ridiculed widely. The debacle only reched the public because newspapers didn't wait for the study to be published or reviewed.

On the other hand there are several studies saying talking as a treatment causes issues. Some focus on how soon the treatment started and if that made things worse other are just general. Downside is relativly few studies in this field are repeatable at all.

[–]JamesRosewood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have the opposite. When i get extremely angry at humans the last thing i want to do is have to sit down and talk to one of them. I would much rather play a video game and cool down while doing so.

[–]Snake101333 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd much rather shit talk people on tf2 than punch a customer because of how stupid they are. It's just a way to vent.

[–]Yamitenshi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except they're not just worried - they're seeing an actual causality where only a correlation exists. And if you ask me, they have it the wrong way around - I think it's much more likely that violent people are attracted to violent games than it is that violent games make people violent.

[–]gjchen34 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed. While it still takes a certain rotten scum to be so susceptible to entertainment media, the infamous Columbine school trenchcoat shooters had some inspiration that preceded it:

Harris and Klebold's favorite movies were "Natural Born Killers" and "Basketball Diaries," in which a young man fantasizes donning a black trench coat and shooting up his school.

Just looking at the graphic scene in "Basketball Diaries" of the trenchcoat teen gleefully shotgunning all his classmates/teachers quite vividly in slow motion, it's extremely clear what they wanted to emulate.

[–]Identity_disorder -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aah when you want to say something but don't have the vocabulary for it and then see someone else has said it all for you. Right on.

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[–]ATLink88 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hate to be that guy but the top two require skill, being a murderer just needs you to have the guts to carry out the act and the motive for doing so.

[–]DWMoose83 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And training...and vetting...and education to some degree....

[–]lclear84 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I think for older kids this meme makes sense, but honestly I know a girl who's brother is 6 and has been playing GTA V and COD since he was 4 and he starting to have some noticeable differences in behavior. He's a much more violent kid than a lot of his friends, he curses like a sailor, and he can get very mad very quick. If you even just ask him to calm down while playing he'll tell you to stop effing yelling at him and cry.

So I know these games are fine for older kids but they might seriously have an affect if they're distributed too early.

[–]seanbrockest 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe don't give a 4 year old an m rated game?

[–]Masquerading_Altoid 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? Shitty parenting is still shitty parenting.

[–]GetSame 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But everytime someone posts a pic of his little kid playing games it's no problem and doesn't cause anything.

[–]terricon4 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ya, give someone a game where people are cursing and stuff and they'll learn to curse, if they haven't already learned about cursing and when to and not to.

Give them a game that's addictive and promotes violence as the idea for all your answers to problems, and they will spend more of their time thinking about violence as the way to solve problems in their head while playing or thinking about the game. But just like all habits, learned bits of different languages, or other things going on you'll find they leak into how you think or do other things not directly related as well.

So if you give this to a younger person who doesn't have as solid of a set of underlying habits and norms it will have a more visible effect. This is why you should learn what type of game you are letting someone play before you buy it for your kid. I have no issues with a kid playing minecraft and killing pigs, also wouldn't have an issue letting them play Assassins Creed even killing humans, but I certainly wouldn't let them play something like Postal 2 (loved that game) till they'd gotten a bit older and had a more solid and established concept of what is and isn't a good idea functionally in reality and how to separate their ideas about gaming from other things. Also not the best method to have them start thinking about sex, violence, and certain other things. Always try to make sure someone has a more solid/stable understanding or source of knowledge on something else first or that new mindset/ideology of that game/media will have a strong influence on their viewing of that subject for a long time to come (kind of like how most people start their fetishes).

TLDR: Think before you buy something for your kid, it might not make them a murderer but that is still something they are spending a portion of their time thinking about, so make sure they are a bit more grounded in reality and can separate the two more clearly in habits or things that might carry over before before introducing them to more extreme types of media for specific matters.

[–]RawlDawg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is Portal a no so they don't jump from heights or what?

[–]derpyninja2000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Glados and her comments I think is what he ment

[–]MoreDetonation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Postal not Portal

[–]derpyninja2000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I just read that portal comment and went with it that makes way more sense

[–]PRiles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok, I need a eli5 for how portal is not ok but assassin's creed is. I let my kid play minecraft but the game is so cartoon like that I don't think a 5yr old is going to become a murder from it. Assassin's creed would be off the list till he was in high school or older. Portal I have never played but I thought it was just a puzzle game. A game that promotes killing lifelike humans would always be off my kids list until high-school at the earliest.

[–]xnoahtx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mind giving an example of what would be too early wondering if I would've counted

[–]Meta0X 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If his parents are letting him play games like GTAV or COD, I think the problems aren't with the games he's playing... that sounds more like shitty parenting to me.

[–]knarkefaen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It DOESN'T make me a surgeon??

I have som calls to make..

[–]deRoyLight 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The logic in this meme is actually really bad.

[–]Mackeral91 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course everyone agrees, but the first two examples are skill based. You can't learn how to preform surgery from surgeon sim, but lashing out at people is not determined by skill. Video games have impact on our emotions, so could violent ones have some impact? Sure. The rush of adrenaline is most certainly real. It's not gonna make or break the personality of a moderately stable human being, and it's probably comparable to watching aggressive sports like ufc.

[–]n33njuh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the first 2 require skill. the third doesn't.

[–]BlueCapMightyMax 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well you don't have to get an 8 year degree to be a murderer.

What a shitty comparison.

[–]ES3M 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not familiar with NFL but I love a good game of Street Hock

[–]Dralyona 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because trying to be a surgeon doesn't make you a surgeon

[–]TheDisagreeArrow 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I played a fpv drone flight sim, now I'm a drone pilot, so....

[–]AnimeFreakXP 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not about making you like... never mind

If anyone agree with this, I have to say you're idiots

[–]zimzamble 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's a new take on this. How many of you after playing a football game want to go outside and play football?

[–]The_Chosen_Undead 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What year is it?

[–]CakeMagic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excuse me, my dear chap, speak for yourself. I have you know I'm highly trained in combating fire breathing lizards and capturing them in mini containers. I also am a veteran on riding dragons and I make a living in stealing money from little children.

[–]TheUltraBrite 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool reposted facebook meme fam

[–]halflistic_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think video games can make someone a murderer.

But I don't like this logic because when I play sports video games, I usually end up wanting to play that sport. Play NBA 2K, I'll be shooting hoops within an hour.

I think it's better to show that people can differentiate between video game shooting and real life shooting people.

[–]DrFunkenstyne 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Playing devil's advocate here, but the top two require a tremendous amount of skill and rely on someone to hire you into that position. Anyone can fire a gun.

[–]lsspam 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are we back in the late 90s again? Does anyone even still make this argument?

[–]DavidDann437 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

welcome to a decade ago!

[–]allyc4t 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

WHAT YEAR IS IT.

[–]Holty12345 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2017 on the Gregorian Calendar.

1438 on the Islamic Calendar.

5777 on the Hebrew Calendar.

7525 on the Byzantine Calendar.

[–]RedrunGun 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't agree that video games make one want to go out and kill people, but this post has all sorts of false equivalencies. A murderer doesn't require any training, any practice, or any equipment, anyone can do it, which just isn't the case for a Surgeon or NFL Pro. A gamer can realistically get off the couch and go murder someone successfully. But get up and perform a successful surgery? Get up and be a successful NFL pro? Not so much.

[–]eye_of_the_rabbit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair... its a lot easier to murder someone than those other options...

[–]Jack92 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree, but this is a flawed argument. Two require years of training, peer acceptance and qualifications.
The other is the somewhat simple act of killing someone.

[–]TotoroTheGreat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The two above are not related to the one below.

[–]Jordoom 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

9gag is leaking....

[–]verydesperatehere 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Videogames haven't made people murderers since Columbine. We know better in 2017. They make you sexist now.

[–]MoreDetonation 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And apparently make a lot of moms want to have sex with you, or so the kids in the chat tell me.

[–]Psicotica420 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It may inspire you to play nfl. It also may inspire you to become a surgeon.

[–]kingsfordgarden 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What kind of logic is this? The first two things require skills that most people don't have whereas the last one is a skill that almost everyone has. The argument mainstream media is making is that games give you an urge to pursue things related to the gameplay. You can't deny that playing madden makes you WANT to be in the NFL or that playing that surgery game makes you WANT to become a real surgeon. Since the above two sentences ring true for most people then it logically follows that being a murderer in a game would make you want to murder people in real life.

I'm not saying that this is necessarily true but logically it is sound.

[–]Keihas -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love how this is downvoted even though it is 100% logical. 13-year old OP needs to GTFO.

[–]agoesin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its true for the wrong reasons. If you like NFL, you'll probably like both. If you like killing you'll like GTA. If you like killing and had a mental health problem...

[–]FridaysMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Translation: If you're dumb enough to think any of the above, you or someone else will get seriously hurt. If you need to be told that, you won't listen to the warning.

[–]ezecallejas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's deep. Lol

[–]SeriousBurritoMG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im8andthisisdeep

[–]strongblack04 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take that Jack Thompson!

[–]ResistDefiance 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can actually finish a level of surgeon and do very well you honestly deserve a job as a doctor

[–]Intergalactician 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My brother wondered why I liked Guitar Hero because "you don't even learn how to play actual guitar."

He plays fifa..

[–]LearnProgramming7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a lot easier to shoot somebody than to be in the NFL or become a surgeon...

[–]neBnamroG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2010 wants its meme back

[–]Adeviate 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bullshit I am an NHL Be-a-Pro. I won the Stanley Cup in my rookie season and had 74 goals and 189 points regular season.

[–]FuckYouMartinShkreli 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this meme is fresh and on point.

flies drone into tree, destroying it. cries.

[–]james3129 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ it's 2017 gtfo with this

[–]kevosurge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wat? I'm not a murderer, but I'm still pretty sure it would be the easiest to be of the three.

[–]FreeMercenary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like if you agree!!1!11!!!

[–]FlashFlood_29 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

(Regardless if I agree or not) Because that old ass repost is comparing skills to behavior...

[–]Ftpini 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Football games don't make you a "pro" NFL player.

Surgeon simulator doesn't make you a "licensed" or "good" surgeon.

GTA doesn't make you a "good"murderer.

That logic doesn't support the argument that video games don't make people violent. It's a fact that they don't, but this logic isn't why.

[–]bf4ness 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/ shitpost

[–]NoBullet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you know those games don't inspire people to become football players and surgeons?

[–]GamerOTYear 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously video games don't turn people into murderers but that is a major false equivalency. It takes a ton of training and skill to become an NFL player or a surgeon, so of course video games wouldn't turn you into those things. It doesn't take any skill to be a murderer.

[–]H_justice 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just not a good argument. It's about influencing. You cannot be a nfl player but, you might want to become one. Alas you cannot become a top tier murderer but you might want to become one.

Also I am not saying people shouldnt play gta because they start liking murdering.

[–]Scizzler 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lulz. Major difference is it could take seconds to become a murderer, but years to do the others.

[–]KWtones -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow, these comments are disappointing. Although someone with pre-existing violent tendencies might play a violent game, the causal link between game violence and real violence has been disproven repeatedly.

The act of murder isn't just something someone goes out and does because they did it in a simulated environment, people do it because they are inspired by something whether it be their own anger or resentment for how they view others, or a moral pretense that is laid out specifically condoning, instructing and justifying it (think ISIS)

Furthermore, there is no moral flavor to video games like gta. Imagine a soup kitchen simulator. Would someone who volunteers at soup kitchens find any equivocal satisfaction in playing a soup kitchen simulator? Fuck no, because there is no moral flavor to it.

Video games (as well as sports, mma, etc) are only played because it is a non-complex risk/reward system involving complex logical thinking and coordination. The risk/reward system in the real world is far more complicated. There are real consequences to real world actions, and children inherently know that...it's what they learn when they constantly push parents' buttons and test boundaries while they grow up. They are establishing the real world consequences to their actions and have years of compounding moral hardwiring by the time they're able to play sports or play a video game. This is partially why contact sports, mma and video games are liked: because it is a temporary escape from the real world risk/reward system where we can tackle, hit, kick, and judo chop each other (or press buttons on a controller) in an environment where the results on those actions don't have the same consequences.

We like to think that kids are simple copybots when it comes to everything because it's a non-complex answer to a complex issue that is observed when kids are engaged in non-complex acts such as swearing. (They hear an older person swear, they observe no consequences, and they copy that action. (And get confused when they get in trouble for it).). We need to stop pretending that the factors inherent to motivating a non-complex behavior like swearing versus a complex behavior like violence are the same. They're just not.

[–]Mathyzi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is indeed no real direct connection to playing violent video games and murder.

NO - video games do not seem to directly make you commit violence in real life. HOWEVER plenty of meta-analyses does show a tendecy for an increase in general aggression and desensitization to violent behaviour.

I'm struggling to find links where you can read them for free, if you have access to a database for psychological research do a quick search for yourself. I could find this one for free however: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305879116_Uncovering_the_association_between_strategy_video_games_and_self-regulation_A_correlational_study

I'm a gamer myself, and I don't like the idea of this but I've looked at this quite a bit with my psych professor and it sadly does seem to hold up. Just not to the extent media makes it out to (big surprise media overexaggerates something science found). Still - the discussion over "should our kids be exposed to this kinda violence" isn't entirely without merit.

[–]UrbanTactician 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need experience, skill and training for the first two. They need knowledge, body training and years of work.

Murdering does not.

[–]Houstonv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck off with this stupid shitty fucking post dude.

[–]Sororita 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Violence in video games don't make me violent IRL. Lag does.

[–]Jugaimo -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because it suits the agenda of assholes

[–]krawulla -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The difference is that you need skills for the first 2 that you don´t learn from a videogame.

The later just needs initiative.

This comparisson makes no sense at all.