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Electrified front door (self.legaladvice)

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Hi,

I live in Texas and I want to know whether or not it would be legal to electrify my front door to prevent people from knocking on it. I suffer from anxiety about having my door knocked on, and people aren't abiding by the sign on it that reads "do not knock". This exacerbates the anxiety that I suffer from (no amount of medication has ever been able to rectify my hatred for unwanted human interaction). So I would like to know about the legality of electrifying it, just as many Texans electrify fences on their ranches. I will place a warning sign on the porch which explicitly states that the door is electrified. I would also like to know the maximum amount of voltage allowed for electric barriers under Texas law.

Thank you for your time, and have a nice day.

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[–]Cypher_BlueQuality Contributor 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely not legal in any way.

[–]diphling 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (23子コメント)

You do not expect people to touch a fence. You do expect people to touch a door. What you are proposing is not a reasonable thing to do, and could land you in big trouble, even if it is low voltage/amperage. Amperage is what kills, and it is possible that you could be setting up a lethal booby trap with this. Do not electrify your door.

Is it solicitors that are knocking? A "No soliciting" sign would be more appropriate than a "no knocking" sign then.

Your best course of action is to seek out a psychologist for cognitive behavioral therapy to combat the anxiety. CBT is a really solid program, and will help you out in the long run if you stick with it.

[–]arpsazombie 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention first responders police, fire, medics, absolutely need to be able to access your front door. Even if you are not home, if a fire breaks out and a fireman is injured due to your ridiculous plan you are in for a lot of trouble. A door is not a fence or a sign. People other than just you legitimately come into contact with your front door.

What makes more sense is to look into the rules about building a FENCE that limits access to your front door. Police/fire can cut the lock if they need to access your home.

[–]Cyrano_de_Boozerack 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally not legal. And in case you are serious about your "anxiety"...this would in no way ease it. People would knock, then call the police, and then you would have quite a lot of unwanted human interaction as a direct result of your attempt to avoid it.

[–]swalsh411Quality Contributor 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So somebody knocks, get shocked, calls the cops, they knock, get shocked, and now you're looking at assault on a police officer. How did you think this would play out again? If you can't stand the thought of people knocking on your door, move somewhere with limited access like a secured apartment building.

[–]donthaveacowman1 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the arrest, court, prison... would be anxiety producing more than a knock.

[–]jimros 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The amount of "unwanted human interaction" you will experience while being arrested, put on trial, and jailed will be well beyond the tolerance of most people, let alone people who suffer from anxiety.

[–]SorthumQuality Contributor 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dog Law specialist here. Not only is this not legal, neither is:

  • Replacing your stoop with pressure sensitive explosive
  • Answering the door with a gun pointed
  • My personal favorite, getting an attack dog to bite people who knock

[–]NerdCrush 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Are you SURE I can't blow up people that come to my door? That doesn't sound right.

[–]SorthumQuality Contributor 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only if it's an Emotional Support Claymore Mine.

[–]rukuus 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Show me precisely in the law that a claymore mine can't be an emotional support item.

[–]NotAReelclown 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you need a big fence and a front gate, not an illegal booby trap.

you could get a giant fake/real security camera and a no trespassing sign with whatever texas code on it and say you'll prosecute anyone who knocks.

[–]maga9999 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't booby trap your door.

Just hire a contractor to attach some sort of padding to your door. Rubber mats, stylish plush fabric, sound absorbent foam, or whatever, so that there's not a hard surface on which to knock.

Problem solved, and you won't go to jail.

[–]CatTaxAuditor 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sec. 9.05. RECKLESS INJURY OF INNOCENT THIRD PERSON. Even though an actor is justified under this chapter in threatening or using force or deadly force against another, if in doing so he also recklessly injures or kills an innocent third person, the justification afforded by this chapter is unavailable in a prosecution for the reckless injury or killing of the innocent third person.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

Seems to me this is saying use of force isn't justified if it injures an innocent third party. Any prosecutor would have you by the short hairs if you electrocute a girl scout or the mailman. Don't booby trap your front door.

Edit: Or a cop. How would you explain an electrocuted front door if the police had to speak to you or showed up for a wellness check?

[–]cricketfluffernutter 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A better solution: don't have a door. Seal it off completely. Enter and exit your house through a hidden panel on the side. No one will knock and no one gets hurt.

Do I win the thread?

[–]NerdCrush 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but then OP is going to get a never ending parade of Mormons and UPS men circling his house trying to find a door.

[–]Swifteroo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You cannot be serious! Of course it is illegal, you can't booby trap your front door. Just ignore the door if someone knocks. Or, if you are that worried, a fence with a locked gate so people can't get to the door in the first place.

[–]stuck_in_the_desert 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about you remove your doorbell (if you have one) and then cover the door's exterior face with some kind of soft foam padding? That would dampen the knocking to the point where you cannot hear it, with the added benefit of not driving up your power bill.

[–]cir49c29 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clearly you don't want to listen to the advice of anyone here. So instead, go ask a police officer, lawyer or judge in your town/city. They are the ones who'll be arresting, defending/prosecuting, and judging your case when someone ignores or doesn't notice the signs, touches your door and is seriously injured or killed.

That said, if you are so certain that everyone who comes to your property will read the signs and walk away, then why not just put up signs warning of electrocution but not actually do it. It would have the same effect, without potentially killing anyone.

Also, check out the definition of a booby trap here

Specifically: A booby trap may be defined as any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause bodily injury when triggered by any action of a person making contact with the device. This term includes guns, ammunition, or explosive devices attached to trip wires or other triggering mechanisms, sharpened stakes, nails, spikes, electrical devices, lines or wires with hooks attached, and devices for the production of toxic fumes or gases.

Please don't restate the whole electric fence argument. A door is not classified as a fence. If you want an electric fence, build one around your property.

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[–]mouthmachine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what's really going to exacerbate your anxiety? Lawsuits.

[–]rudderusa 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IANAL but have had electric fences for over 40 years. I really don't think you are smart enough to isolate the door from grounding out which is a good thing because you would be going to court. Could be criminal or civil or both. Get some headphones or earplugs and grow up.