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[–]Cunnilingus_Academy 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What sport is this, powergifting?

[–]SamsaraSage -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, I'm gonna use that XD

[–]barbellsdontfloat 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is why multiply is dead. It may not be fully decomposed, but it's not that far off despite the ravings of the outlaws crowd.

[–]LordcaptainVictarionM |518.6 kg| 81 kg | 350.5 Wks | USPA | RAW 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't realize people were this delusional about their squats

[–]andrew_rdt 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The worst part is it can give powerlifting a bad name in general when other people see this stuff. Most outside the sport don't know the difference between all the federations and even with gear that there is more than one type.

[–]Chicksan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey hey, leave Outlaws out of this! I need to get my political news from somewhere! lol

[–]8placeribbon 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Check out Wenning's IG. Not shy about his opinion. And "Wanna know what killed Westside? Videos." is hilarious.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRg5F5XBCyE/?hl=en

[–]FBIBrendo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ed Coan commented: eddycoan Disgusting squat passed!!

[–]zulu_x_ray 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't find those videos anywhere. :/ Link?

[–]diddy_lemon1 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It means that once the lifts could be caught on videos [like this one] westside died because they always get busted for being high, not a specific video.

[–]zulu_x_ray 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oooh ok, sorry I got confused shah

[–]bigcoachDM | 835kg | 139kg | 467.1 Wilks | USPA | RAW 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is it me or did he fall backwards at the top?

[–]Chicksan 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It definitely looks like he got caught

[–]barbellsdontfloat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah he definitely fell before the rack command. And never locked on either side.

[–]_Relevant__Username_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, look at his right foot. You can see his toes come up.

[–]Npptestavarathon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He sure did. Wenning mentions it in his post.

[–]watlok 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've finally found the fed for me.

[–]KeshinkoTokenAccount 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Throwback to this gem.

[–]k_martinussen 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like a 2 inch board under his shirt and singlet.

[–]jrk-- 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this music has me dead fam. this is some clown shit holy fuck #neckbeardfed

[–]Trauerkraus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wait what the fuck happened here. Can someone give me a rundown?

[–]saucissor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow, looks like he has advanced cancer.

[–]Samdusky 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hold on now guys, he's a good dude. three whites

[–]dang111M | 730kg | 106.72kg | 433.77Wks | USAPL | SINGLE 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of this gem from powerlifting watch back in the day:

For all the guys who seem to struggle with the English language, but would very much like to defend Mr. Roberts' honor regarding his high squat and butt-in-the-air bench, here is my handy little guide on how to defend your bro on PLWatch:

I [know/have met/trained with] (insert name). [He/She] is [a good person/super nice/a freak/really strong/an experienced lifter/a Marine/a Christian]. Consequently, there is no way [he/she] would ever [squat high/use PEDs/stick a foam roller under his/her bench shirt]. Furthermore, any evidence to the contrary is a result of [a bad camera angle/a mix-up at the lab/a fabrication by anonymous internet haters].

It's kind of like Mad Libs, but more user friendly. I realize that most people who post on PLWatch aren't familiar with all that noun/verb/adverb/adjective gobbledygook.

[–]KeshinkoTokenAccount 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

except not. remember the 'dave hoff incident?'

[–]Samdusky 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's more of a dig at the trend of defending the persons character rather than than the actual depth of the squat. The other go to being something about how the person questioning it couldn't even unrack that like that somehow makes the squat to depth

[–]Npptestavarathon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This part irks me the most. I don't give a fuck. My squat is half what hoff had in his back. I can still tell what a bad squat it. If that logic was what determined WRs then no one would even be in the fucking sport. So fuck anyone who ever says shit like that.

[–]snarf372 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When he stuffed something up his singlet and looked like a pregnant alien?

[–]izzytay97 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've been a westside/geared lifter supporter since I first got into lifting (I only lift raw btw). But it's impossible to defend, when shit like this gets passed. I mean, this is nowhere near depth.

I wish hoff wouldn't do shit like this. from what I hear, he's a very very strong guy. This just taints his reputation so badly.

[–]Npptestavarathon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its not just this that taints the rep. He does bury some squats in training man. He's posted like 1150 I think fucking burried and it was beautiful.

[–]Shredlift 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You started equipped then went raw, without a base? Honestly asking - I always hear starting raw. Unless back in the day when it was mostly gear they had then

[–]izzytay97 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No sir! I've always been raw. I just used to watch those montages with awful music on YouTube. So the first lifters I saw, were equipped guys. That's when I found westside and I always thought it was really cool. I still haven't tried gear.

[–]augustus_lifts 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Without anyone there behind him, no doubt he would've fallen back and missed for sure. Didn't even seem fully locked out. Nothing against equipped lifting, but c'mon, it looked like even he didn't think it would pass.

[–]saskatoonstrength 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is not equipped lifting. This is Westside milti-ply bullshittery.

[–]Shredlift 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You see both ends of it. When the westside documentary trailer came out, everyone's like "ITS SO AMAZING" (lots of tough guy vibes but eh)

Don't get me wrong. They're insanely strong. Louie has developed a name for himself. I haven't lifted outside raw so I mean, I don't wanna sound too critical on depth difficulty, but dang. It's high

[–]saskatoonstrength 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't mean to discount Westside's prolific effect on powerlifting history - Mark Bell, Ed Coan, Dan Green, and many more of the greats of the sport are here because of Westside. With that said, it seems like Westside would do well to die off while their legacy remains that of a gym who put put great athletes and training programs for all lifters, rather than having them known as a group of goofs who quarter squat and tuck stuff under their bench shirts.

[–]SamsaraSage 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm rather sure Mr Simmons WILL die first. I'm not sure bowing out or graceful exits are in his programming.

[–]izzytay97 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well said. That is part of what I was saying above. You can't really take away from westside's impact and importance (unless you're CWS). I think this just paints a very grey picture of the gym, which is disheartening.

[–]guyonthissite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Powerlifting has exploded in popularity in the US in the last 6 years. And it's mostly raw. You could say that Westside held back the rise of raw for years, as people saw these equipped lifts and couldn't relate (and saw lifts like Hoff's and thought the sport was a joke). At the least, that rise in popularity was not because of Westside. You easily can make the case that Crossfit deserves more credit than Westside for that rise.

[–]rwhite2366 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

$20 the judging board doesn't even have red lights.

[–]MHB30M | 735kg | 82.5kg | RUM | RAW[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll take that bet

[–]RailsIsAGhetto 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ly91hL6kbQ

[–]Emp100k 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, just watched that, is very appropreate here

[–]DavidVanLegendary 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chad Wesley Smith chiming in on this

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211037205913434&set=a.1177482044572.27644.1453754891&type=3&theater

[–]Chicksan 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like a standard Dave Hoff squat.......but Daniel Stern at the end made this the best one yet!

[–]TheBrimic 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In all seriousness, if guys like Hoff wanted multiply to be taken more seriously why would they compete in a fed that allows this shit to pass. Just ego to say you "squatted" x amount?

[–]andrew_rdt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Based on this and the bench incident its almost like hes trolling the federation to see what he can get away with.

[–]SamsaraSage 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In a way, I think they are. They want the records. Period. If it massed muster in the fed, they got it, end of discussion. Simmons is like that, a singularly focused man who plays by whatever rules are necessary to win.

[–]DavidVanLegendary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What bench incident?

[–]BroleusM | 737.5kg | 118.1kg | 425.61 Wks | USAPL | Raw 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is this a new video? I remember this happening a few years back. I'm interested to see what the multi-ply guys I talk to have to say about this.

[–]Laughs_at_fat_people 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

New video from today

[–]BroleusM | 737.5kg | 118.1kg | 425.61 Wks | USAPL | Raw 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Goddammit.

[–]BenchMonster74 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a multiply guy, and this looks a mile high to me. I hate seeing super high squats like this passed.

[–]BroleusM | 737.5kg | 118.1kg | 425.61 Wks | USAPL | Raw 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd love to get into gear, it's just so damned expensive. I know there are quality guys that hold themselves to a proper standard. It's a shame that this is the reputation.

[–]BenchMonster74 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, squats like this are pretty much a joke. I have a hard time imagining how anyone could defend this lift being given whites.

[–]snarf372 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Higher than a condor's arsehole.

[–]plateslamM | 545kg | 89kg | RPS | RAW C 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, saw this on Wenning's ig. Love Louie and Westside but this is disrespectful to the sport. Especially with people breaking 1000 raw like Ray Williams.

[–]RealSquatimusPrime 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Multiply check, 2in ROM check, falls back into spotter check, looks good to me. /sarcasm...

Can we get a governing body of judges detached from any one fed. A daunting task, i know, but this is trash.

Ps. Im not a multiply hater btw but it seems most of these high ass WR squats happen more OFTEN in multiply than in raw lifting. I may be wrong and If i am that's cool, correct me, but this here is nonsense.

[–]brandonsmashM | 868.5kg | 128.4kg | 492.4 Wks | NASA | RAW 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How the everliving fuck was that good?!

[–]ShyLick 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even his hamstrings don't break parallel

[–]ben_squatM-Jr | 682.5 kg | 102.5 kg | 411 Wilks | NZPF | Raw 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't this the same fed that passed some of Sapir's crap squats, and hosted the meet that the Lilliebridge's were allowed to do whatever they wanted? Ending up with the IPA committee firing the director and unsanctioning the meet?

[–]Emp100k 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think so, is UPA a subdivision of IPA?

[–]MTLK77 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The real question should be : is it simply possible to hit depth with multi ply suits ? even with a ton on your back I've NEVER seen a "deep" or even parallel squat with multi ply gear.

We all know this is bullshit and bad for powerlifting.

Help me erase this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLVJTBZtiuw

In fact I truly love westside but this multi ply shit come on... just unrack the bar we'll give you 3 lights for a 700kg squat !

[–]RailsIsAGhetto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What fed/meet is this?

[–]shortanswer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm going to gamble and say SPF.

[–]izzytay97 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

IPA, from what I heard.

[–]Emp100k 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IPA = I Pass Anything?

[–]shortanswer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Womp womp. Minus 10 Wilks points for me D:

[–]zulu_x_ray 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IPA, its on his insta

[–]McMeatbag 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hoff style

[–]izzytay97 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I don't excuse the judges but I know what they're doing. "Squat til the suit kicks in and I'll take care of the judges." That pitbull still carries weight in that little world and the judges and doing what they're told, then they get wise and stop and it moves on to the next. APF, SPF, IPA and I know I'm missing some. You don't squat that high without doing it intentionally, nobody squats like that and thinks it might be in. I just wonder if they're actually proud of their 'accomplishment" - chad Wesley smith.

I don't disagree with everything he's saying here. But it does confirm what a lot of people's thoughts about his westside critique video. He clearly has a bias and strong dislike for Louie and the gym. This wasn't his only comment, this seemed to be the only one where he was calling Louie out.

P.S just sharing this in case some of you couldn't seen the whole post, if you're interested, it's one CWS Facebook profile.

[–]CSGOruinedMySexLife 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can someone explain this to me, as a lowly small calfed pleb... What are the rules in multiply? From what I understand you still have to go below parallel? But you have to be seriously retarded if you think this was below parallel. Not trying to start shit, I just legitimately don't understand

[–]black_angus1M | 658.5kg | 82.5kg | 443 Wks | USPA | RAW UNWRAPPED 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same rules, it just happens to be more prevalent because it's harder to hit depth in gear, and the ultra-wide squats look even higher than they are (and some are high AF to begin with). Some people say it is more difficult to judge depth because of the wide stances and thick layers of gear--which is true--but that doesn't account for some of the egregious squats we sometimes see.

As some of the IG commenters have pointed out, we also see similar squats in raw lifting, it's just a bit less common.

[–]CSGOruinedMySexLife 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the explanation! Yeah, I'm not trying to be a federation purist, and I agree that even in the IPF people get away with some shit.

[–]Aerinqq 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So this knee-bent officially beats this knee-bent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR18XBhJQe4

[–]andrew_rdt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It would be ironic if that guy was pissed about his record getting broke by a high squat.

[–]Npptestavarathon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can't really tell from this vid to be fair. Hoffs was blatantly high from a close front view. This is shot from the side from a distance and his left quad looks close to parallel.

[–]SamsaraSage 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. It's not very clear. Could go either way. Definitely beats Hoff, though.

[–]Rsardinia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a fuckin joke. Great, it's a lot of weight, but wtf.

[–]KushBallz69420 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[–]Cocunutmilk 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I think the problem is cause a lot of people don't really get to full depth. And as a result the judging of parell gets higher and higher

But at the same time I wouldn't of been able to even lift the weight let alone push it back up at all so I'm not in a position to criticize

[–]Ms242 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Multi- ply lifting is very silly to me. Guys benching like 600 in a shirt when they can't even bench 365 raw, squatting double their raw squat. I've never understood it. To each his own, I guess.