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What exactly does anti-trans therapy look like? (self.GenderCynical)

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A lot of transphobic people (both conservative and TERF) suggest that trans people go to therapy and counseling instead of transitioning, but none of them ever say the method used.

Is there a lot of gaslighting?

Do they just constantly say "You're a man, you're a man, you're a man" or "You're a woman, you're a woman, you're a woman" until the cows come home?

Is it like gay conversion therapy, where they force you to alter your hobbies and friends circle to see if that makes you change?

Do they force you to touch yourself and see if that somehow cures your dysphoria?

Do they force you to stay off social media or stop listening to the radio?

How would that therapy work?

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[–]Ebomb1menace to cisciety 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mindfulness, DBT, CBT, radical acceptance. Focusing on ways to rationalize and compartmentalize dysphoria. Trying to "unlearn" whatever beliefs about your assigned sex/gender that drove you away from identifying with it as you were supposed to "naturally." Hard focus on the shortfalls of transition to "prove" the futility of trying, and accept the only way to be "real" and "authentic" is as your assigned sex/gender.

[–]fuzzyroundthings 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been through DBT for other stuff and I found it incredibly gaslighty so I'm not surprised they want to use that on trans people.

[–]Ebomb1menace to cisciety -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In what way? My only experience with it was with a therapist I hated anyway, so obviously it didn't do squat.

[–]silverducttape 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet "discovering your root" is part of it too.

[–]Sakura_No_SeireiZoë, born into the purple 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Given that there is only one "therapy" model available for the attempted change of an innate characteristic that is physiological in nature it is immediately obvious that the only thing therapy that transphobes really want trans people to go through is conversion therapy. So, basically, torture and ECT until you either find a way to escape or you become fundamentally broken and/or kill yourself.

CBT doesn't work on any variation that a person may have from the norm that is physiological in nature. CAT; ditto. Same with counselling of any other description. Therapies like these can help cope with psychological problems that occur when somebody experiences stress as a symptom of the variation (which is where the biopsychosocial model comes in), but that's their limit.

So any time you see a transphobe pushing for therapeutic treatment for trans people, it's a push for conversion therapy. It's the well tried wedge strategy, first they push for innocuous treatments that they know won't work, and, when they don't work, push for conversion therapy as the standard model for treatment. The parallels between how TERFs push in this area and how their fundie Christian allies are pushing to have conversion therapy reinstated as a legal form, and eventually mandated, form of therapy for anybody who doesn't fit the cis-heteronormative status quo is both frightening and damning.

[–]PennyKat86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for this post ❤ this gives me some good insight and info. I've been confronted by family and others who have question how I received mental health treatment and why I was never challenged. They seem to think some therapy where an attempt to normalize should be the first option. Haven't really known how to answer their questioning.

[–]fuzzyroundthings 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every time I've pressed for details I don't get any so now I just picture a dark room and you get tied to a chair while a disembodied voice tells you that you're a man and gives you a basic biology lesson and every time you look away they shock you. It's ridiculous but so was the time a GCer told me I was a coward for not embracing my masculinity so I'm just going off that.

[–]Ebomb1menace to cisciety 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, here is one attempt at an explanation, fwiw: http://e-cryptid.tumblr.com/post/158093687501/how-do-we-manage-dysphoria-in-other-ways-what-do?is_related_post=1#notes

TL;DR is "it's different for everyone, misogyny, also mindfulness."

[–]Ebomb1menace to cisciety 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here is a semi-related one on what "detransition" can mean from (this) GC/radfem detransitioner: http://e-cryptid.tumblr.com/post/157809575676/the-differences-between-transition-and?is_related_post=1#notes