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 No.759557

I didn't see any learn2draw threads so I'm gonna make one, feel free to ignore it.

So I'm fed up with all the horseshit in modern comics/cartoons and think I could do better (because I'm an narcissist.) The problem is I have no idea where to start. Can someone link me to some pdfs/videos/whatever that are good for new shit tier drawfags?

pic unrelated.

 No.759581

I've been uploading stuff to our Volafile page.


 No.759583

>>759581

We have a Volafile page?


 No.759592

>>759583

Yeah, its the first thing you see when scrolling the front page in the share thread. A whole lot of stupid tend to forget to check the share thread first.


 No.759596


 No.759609

So I got clip paint pro since I noticed that all the weebshit artists I really like on pixiv use it. It's great in that my stuff I coming out like I intended, the downside being that I am realizing I am absolute shit at perspective and anatomy. Anyone suggest some good resources to study this shit?


 No.759634

>>>/loomis/

>libgen.io

>bookzz.org

lrn2pirate


 No.759647

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>>759557

I unironically think Teekyuu is one of the greatest anime of all time.


 No.759655

>>759647

Is that supposed to be a controversial idea? The pace and comedic timing are just about perfect. The bit sized episodes have the exact length needed to satisfy your need to be entertained without being so long that the joke runs thin. Teekyuu is fucking great.


 No.759672

Three artist to look up and learn from:

Loomis

Hogarth

Bridgeman

There you go, good luck.


 No.759713

>>759647

>drinking pool water

Is she the grossest waifu or is she the grossest waifu?


 No.759730

>>759557

Beginner books (drawing from accuracy to perform studies and check mistakes):

>Keys to Drawing, Bert Dodson

>Charles Bargue Drawing Manual, Charles Bargue

>Dynamic Bible, Peter Han

Anatomy books:

>Vilppu Drawing Manual, Glenn Vilppu

>Constructive Anatomy, George Bridgman

>Figure Drawing for all it's Worth, Andrew Loomis

>Dynamic Anatomy, Burne Hogarth

>Dynamic Figure Drawing, Burne Hogarth

Perspective books:

>How to draw, Scott Robertson

>Perspective made easy, ernest norling

>How to draw cars the Hot Wheels way, Scott Robertson

The thing about the books is that you have to learn and apply the techniques you've learned so you won't forget it.


 No.759737

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>>759713

Best waifu this side of Marimo.


 No.759760

>>759730

Thanks


 No.759795

>>759596

You didn't even do it right


 No.759935

>>759596

This is one of the most retarded reply I ever saw. You want to help? That's not how you help. You're just being pretentious. It's like someone looking for help on google search and the first 5 results are forum posts with replies saying "Go google it stupid!"

>>759730

Are those also includes how to draw background as well?

>How to draw cars the Hot Wheels way, Scott Robertson

As collector of rare HW I'm interested.


 No.759938

>>759730

Much appreciated. Is there a book on animal anatomy? Like tigers, horses, house cats, and dragons?


 No.759942

>>759938

For dragons there's this book I posted in another thread. Yeah its called Dragonart : How to draw fantastic dragons and fantasy creaturs by Jessica Peffer aka J "NeonDragon" Peffer.


 No.760004

>>759942

Torrent?


 No.760054

>>759942

What about horses? It's the most drawn animal in fantasy setting but drawing them is a bitch.


 No.760078

>>760054

I don't have a book on horses sorry anon.

>>760004

I don't have a torrent. I got this book as a birthday gift when I was a kid.


 No.760191

>>759938

>Drawing Animals the Weatherly Way, Weatherly

>The Art of Animal Drawing, Kem Hultgren

For dragons, they're actually a combination of animals like horses, turtles, apes, birds, bats, etc. They're kind of fun to do once you know about animals. Drawing them is very good way to apply your knowledge about animals.


 No.760193

>>760191

*ken hultgren


 No.760194

>>759942

I have the book on pdf, let me see if I can find it so that I can upload it to mediafire.


 No.760294

>>759737

As much as I hate the waifu shit I agree.


 No.760495

>>760078

Oh well


 No.762289

>>760194

Find it yet


 No.763017

>>759730

Than you all the uploads

>How to draw cars the Hot Wheels way, Scott Robertson

That one is not up


 No.765571

>>759730

Is there Mega or PDF version for those books? Or there's only the dead tree version?

I found several books from Japan but I can't read Japanese text and they are expensive as hell.


 No.765577

>>765571

Hoe much are we talking here.


 No.765584


 No.765609

>>765584

I'll also pimp How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way,

Blackthorne Publishing's How To Draw Robotech, How To Draw Transformers, and How to Draw G.I.Joe.

Antarctic Press' How To Draw Manga series

And OP, show us what you end up doing!


 No.765622

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>>765577

Around $25-$40 each. I was interested but unfortunately they never translate their how to books to English.

They released many books, some are pretty mundane like how to draw 46 background items but I think it will help a lot.


 No.765649

>>765622

They look nice


 No.765668

>>765649

Indeed, but they are not that thick. So that price is a bit too much.


 No.765713

>>765668

There isn't a digital version?


 No.765911

>>765713

No, because every book includes a DVD with how to stuff in it as well. Also it seems like no one want to get it just to ruin the book by scanning it.


 No.768511

>>765911

I mean it can't be too difficult, grabbing a camera and taking some pics


 No.768692

>>768511

/co/ folks tend to be very finnicky with quality. They prefer scan than shitty photo version. Also I'm a photographyfaq so I will not satisfied with just simple point and shoot pics. It will take most of my time.


 No.770439

>>768692

Hey at least we'll have a copy.


 No.775259

>>759557

add "anondraws" to skype and we'll add you to our art improvement group there. You will get the benefit of always constructive (non abusive) critiques and a knowledge base of users who are on the same path to greatness. it's a shared account so you'll be added eventually. Git in and git gud!


 No.778223

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>>765584

Is working great thus far I just started though.

How long it takes to get a stablished style, 8 months?


 No.778224

>>778223

fuck meant to >>759730

I'll check your stuff nontheless.


 No.781469

>>778223

Depends on how much you put into it.

Scott McCloud said it best in Understanding Comics, every artist starts with pure mimicry of their heroes, after that they begin reverse-engineering and discover the craftsmanship behind the people they're emulating. Then they discover their own voice and begin innovating.

My own advice is, don't stick to your comfort zones and you'll always keep getting better. Even Chris-Chan got a little better when you track him over ten years, even when he only brought out one issue a year. When he finally self-destructed, you could at least work out what he was trying to draw, when the first issue is so abstract you can barely work out what's happening.

On the other hand Questionable Content will never get any better because the artist is afraid of drawing anything that doesn't look like a Ctrl+Alt+Del page.


 No.781528

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Not too sure if this going to be useful (might have been better on that now gone character model/design sheet thread or possibly /loomis or an animation board)

Stephen Silver (character designer guy) uploaded the original Kim Possible animatic which is basically the first episode done with "still drawings/key frames" type of stuff.

Episode starts at 9:50 while some nice character action poses can be seen after 20:46

While the start of this video has some minor stuff talking about character design for The Weekenders and Kim Possible that were used in old Disney Channel ad breaks.


 No.781552

>>778223

Think about your fundamentals before thinking about style. It'll come on its own based on what you like and your shortcomings.


 No.781591

>>781552

Well, observing the progress the anon's made in four tries it seems like he has already some talent.


 No.781592

>>781552

but then how can you prove he knew the fundamentals if he already has an style? I have never got this reasoning, soul one Always put a batch of their realistic works before putting the acctual pic he wants to show? otherwise how cna you prove he practiced the fundamentals.


 No.781595

>>781591

Not really, we're just used to such shit artist this guy looks like a prodigy.


 No.784384

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Are there any good books or videos on learning to enjoy the process of drawing? Recently I've found that I'm so caught up with speed and getting to the finished product that I don't enjoy the process of getting there, which in turn leaves me with a mediocre drawing by the end.


 No.784386

>>781528

>Jew nose


 No.784404


 No.784416

>>784404

painting is a little different than drawing anon. Like sculpting, painting scenery can be therapeutic almost, but drawing characters, poses, composition, design… these are all require quite a bit of thought and effort and I can't help but find the process tedious.

of course, if you know a particularly good Bob Ross video that goes into this I'd love to watch it.


 No.785150

Does anyone here ever get that feeling that they are inspired when they first draw something but lose that inspiration as they continue to draw a certain object. This has happened to me before. I don't know why.


 No.785251

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>>784416

Painting and sculpting require a fair amount of thought and effort as well all these other things. You don't sculpt a greek god, a catholic saint, someone's bust or paint a major landscape without employing those same concepts (this does not apply to "modern" art - but then it's not actual art no matter rich liberal kids want to convince you otherwise).

People who do those activities struggle the same way as you do.

Also, don't worry about finishing a piece in one day in the beginning - work on each individually and as you get more proficient and things get easier you'll work faster by the nature of it and eventually even develop time-saving strategies.

>>785150

If there's one thing I learned in life is that inspiration is overrated and unreliable because it's fleeting.

What you and >>784417 should worry about is developing self-discipline and acknowledge that nothing is accomplished without hard work, and for a higher purpose you must get through what may be feel tedious processes in order to achieve your goal (which is building skill).

Building a skill is a slow process and you need to persevere if you want to become proficient at something that matters to you.


 No.785484

anyone got some good stuff on drawing backgrounds?


 No.785506

>>784416

It's not Bob Ross, but you should try Jerry Yarnell - he's another of those half hour shows on educational tv guys. He goes into quite a bit more detail of how to figure out perspective and composition to make a picture work. He does more subjects than Ross and he's cheerful enough to keep it fun and interesting.

There's some of his stuff on YouTube.


 No.785742

>>785251

Thanks anon I'll just persevere and keep working.


 No.786945

Daily reminder that if you post a cartoony looking girl on /a/ you get a week long ban, repeated offenders could get longer bans, up to a month, I have yet to have a global ban tough.


 No.787560

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>>784404

Maybe you just need to get back to whatever made you want to draw in the first place.


 No.787672

>>787560

>Influence map

I've seen that on deviantart.


 No.787917

>>787672

Good that means its pure


 No.787936

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>>787560

>deviantart


 No.787941

>>786945

I'm glad we're not beset by such severe autism


 No.793173

bump


 No.799106

>>793173

At least post something of value.


 No.803293

>>786945

That sounds like a stupid thing to get banned for.


 No.803308

File: b383ae3abd7f393⋯.png (165.32 KB, 370x298, 185:149, what the fuck am I looking….png)

Just going to throw this out there right now: Don't start by trying to develop "a style". Having "a style" at all is the last possible thing you should do. You may hate me for saying this, or feel like I'm trying to tell you what to draw. You can draw however you want, but by learning the fundamentals, everything else becomes SO MUCH FUCKING EASIER

Practicing the basics and the fundamentals, understanding the principles of form and composition and perspective with build up the muscle memory and train your brain to more easily translate thought to lines. By the time you have a firm grasp on these things, drawing things in your own "style" will be so absolutely easy that you'll want to kick yourself for insisting on doing things wrong this whole time.


 No.803311

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>>803308

Good advice. Though my problem is that I get frustrated trying to read from a book. Most of them just don't give you enough details on what you're suppose to do sometimes. So you gotta really pay attention to the pictures or else you'll mess it up.


 No.803313

>>803311

Yeah, unfortunately people who are good at art are not always good at writing.


 No.803347

any advise for a guy who does not know where to start, the only free time i have is on the train to school, but i was to start because i know 3d modeling, and it is hard to model without concept art.


 No.803412

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>>803347

This seems like it'd be helpful. Use this to decide what to work on at train time.




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