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Why aren't people seeing this obvious propaganda? (i.redd.it)

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[–]kickercvr 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The word propaganda now days means the same as conspiracy theory. If you use the word propaganda, you will be immediately dismissed and ridiculed. The general public believes that propaganda doesn't exist in the US.

[–]Dunkh 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's not illegal now. It was up until 2013.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130715/11210223804/anti-propaganda-ban-repealed-freeing-state-dept-to-direct-its-broadcasting-arm-american-citizens.shtml

[–]Glass_wall 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you use the word propaganda, you will be immediately dismissed and ridiculed.

Only by mental midgets with their head so deep in the sand their pussies get scratchy. You don't need their approval.

[–]EricCarver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

unfortunately, those mental midgets are everywhere. There is more of them than those that think a bit.

[–]Ragnarokcometh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because Americans have been bombarded with propaganda since day dot, from the flag worship to military enlisting, most can not tell real propaganda anymore let alone expose it. And when it is exposed it just gets over run with the newest bullshit story that seeps out. Every fortnight is a new topic to make you forget the last.

[–]EricCarver 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Russia knows it, which is why Pokemon Go is so restricted there. Maybe they leverage the problem by giving it disinfo.

But the scope of reach is huge. iPhones, Androids, PCs, Macs, TVs.

[–]Chris_Hatchenson [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

which is why Pokemon Go is so restricted there

No it's not. Wasn't officially released but certainly not restricted.

[–]EricCarver [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Then why do we hear stories of people being arrested for its use there? And why people report having GPS signal hampered at various places?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/05/pokemon-go-russian-youtuber-ruslan-sokolovsky-five-years-jail-church

[–]Chris_Hatchenson [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Then why do we hear stories of people being arrested for its use there?

Church mafia being edgy, nothing to see here.

And why people report having GPS signal hampered at various places?

Because FSO (Russian version of Secret Service) is afraid of drones.

[–]therealcatspajamas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For me I think cars is the scariest one. Especially in 10-15 years when self driving cars are more standard. I don't like the possibility that the CIA could push a button and murder me at any time and make it look like a technical glitch.

[–]-INFOWARS- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Interesting thought about Pokemon Go. Didn't know if it is restricted there. I would assume that's why China firewalls its internet so much.

[–]jkess04 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (23子コメント)

China restricting internet access is not explicitly an attempt at keeping out foreign snoopers. It is to control their population and what they have access to. Its hard to keep people in check when they are seeing their friends have so much fun in the west..

[–]-INFOWARS- 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's the norm but I think the US controls its population just as much as China does but using different methods.

[–]capitolshill 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is a very important point. I suspect that's part of the government (be it local/state/feds) fear about people prepping/living off the grid- those folks are outside that sphere of influence.

[–]irondumbell 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Are you sure you're not talking about north korea? China is fairly rich

[–]BigPharmaSucks [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall

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[–]jkess04 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (12子コメント)

yup I am sure. What doesnt china being "fairly rich" have anything to do with what we are talking about?

By the way Chinas overall GDP is much greater than the US but not per capita. They are not fairly rich, they are extremely rich.

[–]irondumbell [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

What doesnt china being "fairly rich" have anything to do with what we are talking about?

Because economic growth legitimizes the communist government, and most people turn a blind eye to censorship as long as their economy is doing well

[–]jkess04 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I still dont see how that refutes my point that China restricts and censors access to control their population, not to keep out foreign snoopers.

[–]irondumbell [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Why is it one or the other? The cia are masters at psyops and the u.s. media is basically the propaganda wing of the government. If commercials can get people to buy unneccessary junk, then they could get people to buy into a narrative just as easily

[–]jkess04 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

dude are you even responding to my comments or are you mixed up? nothing you have said has refuted my point and only seems to confirm it. What is it you are trying to convince me of?

the chinese government censoring their population does not keep spys out. you think pokemon go is the only way the CIA could spy on someone in China??

[–]irondumbell [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

What country wouldnt want to protect their secrets? Just because a few spies could get in doesnt mean that its impossible to defend themselves from trojan horses or other spying devices

[–]this_time_tho [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

China is still developing, though. Only now is their growth spurt slowing down.

[–]fluxingflow [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

PPP GDP, not nominal GDP. However, the nominal GDP will be eclipsed soon.

[–]jkess04 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

yeah, I pointed that out..

[–]fluxingflow [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Chinas overall GDP is much greater than the US but not per capita

"overall" doesn't mean Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) nor nominal. In fact, overall doesn't mean much of anything in economics.

[–]jkess04 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

thanks for the semantics, added a whole lot to the convo

[–]salvia_d 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its hard to keep people in check when they are seeing their friends have so much fun in the west..

A lot of people in the West are struggling to make ends meet as they watch foreign money buy up their homes and assets. I really don't think the main reason is to keep others from seeing how much fun the West is having, that's for sure.

[–]jkess04 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

do you actually think that would be what they would see? when you view social media, you are not seeing people complaining about foreign money buying up their homes. when you view the western MSM you do not see people talking about foreign money buying up their homes.

There may be many many problems with the west's (specifically the US) governments and societal structure, but the every day person still enjoys their life. They still have their technology, their toys and their "freedom" whether they are truly free or not. Having the perception that you are free to do what you want can drastically affect others outlook on things, and if that is what they are seeing, they will start to believe they deserve the same.

Whats for sure is that this has nothing to do with people talking about foreign money buying up their homes.

[–]salvia_d [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

when you view social media, you are not seeing people complaining about foreign money buying up their homes. when you view the western MSM you do not see people talking about foreign money buying up their homes.

We do in Canada. Big time.

[–]fluxingflow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

To that end, I'm not so sure American media is as free as we think. We don't have anything on the level of the Great Firewall, but what we see are obviously curtailed by the major media conglomerates. What used to be free platforms like Twitter and Reddit are increasingly falling into the grasp of old media money. Here in America, finding raw information without any filtering is as much a struggle as people in Chinese.

[–]EricCarver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Indeed. China has been controlling their narrative for a long time, as searches for Tiananmen square behind the Chinese firewall will prove. I am very sure that other governments are studying that case as something to emulate or be inspired about. Seems like most other countries are opting to steer narrative by the use of paid shills.

How soon before CTR or Shareblue are folded into the government as an official department?

[–]awful_website [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"It's okay when we do it" - America, 1776-2017

[–]Spooky_Hillbilly [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You misunderstood the Wikileaks.

EVERY iPhone is a CIA microphone.

[–]Aphix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Every internet-connected device with a sensor is the CIA's internet-connected device with a sensor.

FTFY =)

[–]HashtagDadJoke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm sure Russia spies on us. But our own government does it a lot more...

[–]The_Fad 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah yes, the "you're not allowed to be angry at two things" fallacy.

[–]Nootromind [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The problem is the complete hypocrisy the media and our country exhibits when it comes to these things. Us spying on Russia? No problem! We have to protect democracy! Russia spying on/ infiltrating us? Evil dictator country that needs to be eradicated!

[–]AnorexicBuddha [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What exactly do you think intelligence agencies do?

[–]Hasbara4U [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

On CBS Morning News today, there was a story implying that Putin poisoned one of his critics with no evidence. Yet, nothing about the latest Wikileaks data and definitely nothing about Michael Hasting's suspicious death.

[–]FuckWork79587 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Every iPhone in Russia is a CIA microphone

Every iPhone in the world. And every laptop. And every other smartphone.

but Russian hacking is the problem according to CNN

It's possible to be upset and worried about both. I hate the CIA and their spying, but I still want to know the extent of Russian influence in our election.

Am I supposed to feel sorry for Russia because the CIA is spying on them? The FSB is spying on Americans. This isn't a one way game. CIA spies on Russia, FSB spies on America. America influences Russian elections to get pro-American results, Russia influences American elections to get pro-Russian results. It's a game as a old as time.

[–]DarthCasanova [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

People CHOOSE not to see it. By admitting it they have to admit that they've been lied to their whole lives, and also admit they were stupid enough to fall for the lie. Their pride and beliefs stand in the way. Much easier to call someone a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist instead of do some research and pay close attention to the world around them.

The saddest part is if they had stayed observant the entire time and took action, that many of these scenarios would never have gotten this far out of control.

[–]lord_of_poo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The central intelligence agency are masters at psychological operations and the USG exploits this very proficiently.

[–]Zafocaine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Lol you guys really think the CIA is in charge here? More likely it's the world government. CIA has plenty of work to keep them busy without monitoring a billion phones worldwide. It's definitely occurring, but you're naive to think the CIA is in charge on this one. It feels more like the CIA is pointing the finger at themselves to keep us saying "knew it!" instead of uncovering the truth.

[–]Royce_Melborn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you u/not_a_russian_spy010 😏👌

Stay strong comrade!

[–]Eyes0pen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The PokeGo restriction is most likely attributed to niantics lack of effort with expansion, I mean they just got it out to Korea so take that with a grain of a salt.

Consumerism is huge in the US and the USG exploits this very proficiently. With that inmind would it be too out of line to think they are attempting to spread their newer "sub social culture"( I cant quite define consumerism adequately) to the rest of the world to open up new avenues to exploit? I could be reaching here, but it's just a thought.

[–]evev13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At this point the CIA probably has footage of an American prostitute peeing on Vladimir Putin.

[–]AnorexicBuddha [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the shitpost.

[–]beachexec [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

why aren't people seeing this

They don't wanna admit that Hillary Clinton sucks and that she lost fair and square.

[–]Holiman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Two major problems with your assertions. The first is that you conflate spying and efforts at intervention, also you focus on Russia spying which shows you have a bias. The next is that American's should somehow be more concerned with their own governments intelligence gathering then a foreign government (Russia) attempting to destabilize the United States.
I reject your points entirely.

[–]Thoutzan -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

pokemon go is restricted in China too，besides，I believe CIA is the reason Huawei is banned in the US

[–]jkess04 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

uhh Huawei is most certainly not banned in the US. Google literally let them build the last nexus phone that they made. And according to this sub, Google = CIA so that must be a major conflict of interest, no?

[–]ame4686 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

your username makes this so much better tbh

[–]Faggotitus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The thing throwing me is how obvious they are making it that CNN is a CIA mouthpiece.
It's a little too obvious.

[–]Afrobean [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The corporate media in general is complicit. Don't pretend it's only CNN that is guilty.