firstly, I am NO chad. Fit and put together but not a Chad. This was highly unusual to say the least.

Women have lead me down lots of dark roads. Keeping up with the recreational habits of partners has gotten me financial hardship, substance abuse, less sleep than I need, work/career problems etc. (That is not an exaggeration or cliche for the sake of it. 100% Reality).

So I went mgtow because honestly, "keeping up" with the spending and partying habits of women was not only breaking me, but ironically making me less attractive to women seeing as I was broke, bummy, in trouble at work, unshowered etc. because I put getting laid first.

Even without the destruction, I always had to "work" to bed women. Flirting, mind games, putting my best foot forward etc. HUGE hassle.

Then, today, about a year after being legitimately mgtow and not looking to date; with my sleep-filled, healthy body and recovering finances, I take grandma grocery shopping.

Chick seems flirtatious at the register - could just be friendly. I don't think much of it.

Let grandma get in the car. Start it to get her warm. Load groceries. Am pushing back cart when chick comes out with hummus and peas bag that we must have forgot in the store.

Hands it to me real close, gives me surprise kiss, runs back in the store. I'm shocked. And also dissapointed at how pleased I am with this. It's never happened before and I am going on 30. Chick was probably 22 and a 6.5/10.

I honestly think it's related to mgtow. I haven't been this groomed, showered, well slept and flush with cash in YEARS. I can't gleam validation from this though beyond me initial ego-boosting gut-reaction because it will lead me to total destruction.

Has mgtow done this for anyone else? It's like they smell it on me. I don't think a chick has ever even made the first move on me before tbh. Much less one that wasn't 400 lbs.