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[–]fffjayare 79 ポイント80 ポイント81 ポイント 2時間前 (11子コメント)
To be fair, Amazon recognizes Ladder Safety Month on their front page and not Women's History Month. I guess it's easier to prime ship a ladder than it is some sort of amorphous, unalienable right.
[–]FireHazard11 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 1時間前 (7子コメント)
Dude, you had a mail order bride joke just sitting there and you ignored it.
[–]_RandyRandleman_ 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 42分前 (5子コメント)
And you thought it would be a good idea to notify them instead of stealing and making it
[–]FireHazard11 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 38分前 (4子コメント)
Well yeah, I'm not gonna steal another dude's karma. That's just fucked up.
That, and my comment was already funnier than any mail order bride joke I could come up with.
[–]_RandyRandleman_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 31分前 (3子コメント)
You're a terrible Karma Whore
[–]FireHazard11 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 28分前 (2子コメント)
Says the person who isn't even in /r/CenturyClub.
[–]_RandyRandleman_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 27分前* (1子コメント)
I'm only 11k off. It's taken me a year to nearly get to what you've done in four
[–]FireHazard11 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 15分前 (0子コメント)
Listen here you little whipper snapper. Back in my day we had to earn our karma the hard way! We toiled for days in the karma mines of /r/AskReddit/rising just to get a handful of upvotes. Nowadays you just have to copy down Cliche Comment #3 or join in a pun thread and get showered in upvotes.
[–]fffjayare 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 41分前 (0子コメント)
kind of forgot those existed tbh
[–]Pwnk 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2分前 (0子コメント)
True, but there's a world of a difference between Amazon and The United Nations.
[–]FastFourierTerraform -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 56分前 (0子コメント)
If it's amorphous, then what are all those women on strike for, huh? It's... well, they really need equality in... um, and they don't even have the right to... oh, um, well, you know. Women's strike!
[–]deaftoexcuses 50 ポイント51 ポイント52 ポイント 3時間前 (22子コメント)
So, everyday regular men are such shit, as far as the U.N. is concerned, that they indirectly compare us to feces. While simultaneously trying to erase or obscure the one day that celebrates us; or just arrogantly not noticing that they are.
[–]CWBECK[S] 48 ポイント49 ポイント50 ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
The entire concept of having a day dedicated to worshipping one gender because of their gender is retarded. It's more sexist and condescending than anything else.
[–]deaftoexcuses 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
If it's a light hearted affair and everyone gets their day; dignity intact, then days celebrating various groups wouldn't bother me. It's when one group always takes precedence and then uses these days to backhandedly diminish others, that I lose tolerance for them.
Ironically, forcefully pushing the narrative of this one arguably privileged group, as though they must count for more than other's, does indeed seem sexist.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1時間前 (18子コメント)
I mean I think they're trying to raise awareness for the 2.5 billion people who don't have proper sanitation, but you might be on to something here, they might just hate men. Because we need days of praise, right?
[–]FastFourierTerraform 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 48分前 (2子コメント)
I hate this notion of "raising awareness." 90% of the time, they seem to be raising awareness of something that has been common knowledge for decades. No one is going to see a 'World Toilet Day' banner and suddenly realize that a bunch of people on the other side of the world are poor as shit. No one is going to go to a breast cancer march and suddenly realize that people die of breast cancer.
Yeah, it might be silly to single out random demographics for honor over particular time periods, but if you're going to do one, do them all. It's like arbitrarily deciding that you don't get to celebrate your birthday if you're a straight white male. Birthdays are kind of silly in a certain sense, but that's what we do, and arbitrarily excluding someone from that is a rather petty attack.
[–]Nammi-namm 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 31分前 (0子コメント)
Nov 19th is my birthday. Your comment applies to me in more ways than one. Wow
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 43分前 (0子コメント)
But someone could see a "world toilet day" banner and think "hey, I didn't know this was a problem, maybe I'll donate". I can honestly say I didn't know it was a problem. Breast cancer is fundamentally different because it's been so many times, everyone knows about it
[–]CWBECK[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 57分前 (9子コメント)
Because we need days of praise, right?
Do women need days of praise?
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 55分前 (8子コメント)
Did I say that they did, or can I just not read what I wrote correctly?
[–]CWBECK[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 51分前 (7子コメント)
The UN doesn't recognize International Men's Day as a thing but they recognize Women's Day as a legitimate holiday. They really couldn't bother to have an official day celebrating men, or just get rid of the concept of gender praising holidays? It seems shitty.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 44分前 (6子コメント)
That's not what I'm saying here though. You're just saying the same thing over and over again
[–]CWBECK[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 42分前 (3子コメント)
You really aren't making a point aside from "there's no issue or double standard here because sanitation is an actual issue". You realize that's not substantial in any way, right?
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 41分前 (2子コメント)
That's not the argument I'm making. At all.
[–]NotActuallyHereAtAll 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 21分前 (1子コメント)
Then let me respond as another observer that from how you framed your sentence you made that very implication. I don't know how to do fancy quotes but
"they might just hate men. Because we need days of praise, right?"
This statement here to me shows a clear disregard for the sentiment that I believe is supposed to be behind the holiday. One of recognition not of just men being men, but of their issues they face still in the current evolving world we live in. While admittedly some of these issues are not as threatening as issues that women generally face (from my understanding anyway.) It doesn't make these issues any less relevant, or worth ignoring.
So by the UN making this statement they are succinctly both in essence telling men that they do not consider their issues worth mentioning, and that as far as their priorities are concerned Sanity needs should be seen above men's issues.
Getting more personally involved in it I might even make the presumption that it was even more backhanded by stating in their clarification for the day being one of greater concern for women in this area. I want to state very clearly here and now that I am in no way, shape, or form against making women feel safe, and protected no matter what they choose to do (within reason) but I would state TODAY (National Women's Day) be the day to consider these issues they face, and what we might do as a species to fix these issues. The same as how on Internal Men's Day we do the same for the other side of this spectrum. Instead of being ignored and forced to tow the line as men so often are told to do.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1分前 (0子コメント)
Ok, I accept defeat, I see how that makes sense.
[–]spez_is_a_cannibal 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 15分前 (1子コメント)
Okay stfu now
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 6分前 (0子コメント)
Sounds like someone's triggered
[–]deaftoexcuses 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 46分前 (4子コメント)
Actually, I was going more for callous dismissal than hate. But feel free to imply whatever helps you spin your narrative. And I don't need any days of praise, personally. You clearly have an axe to grind with the men's movement, so I'll just leave you to it.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 42分前 (3子コメント)
Why would I be subbed to this sub if I did?
[–]deaftoexcuses 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 35分前 (2子コメント)
Oh, I didn't realize that subscribing to a sub was synonymous with supporting it's position.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 34分前 (1子コメント)
Ah, see, there's you're mistake
[–]deaftoexcuses 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 26分前 (0子コメント)
No mistake was made. There are people subscribed to this sub disingenuously. We don't block and ban here and our socio-political position, conflicts directly with human evolutionary assumptions. So, it just stands to reason that not every subscriber actually supports men's issues.
[–]itsjosh18 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Im going to go with the first one.
[–]caribou16 34 ポイント35 ポイント36 ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I mean, proper sanitation is a pretty big issue for a lot of the world. And all of November is "Movember" now, so I'm not too upset by this.
[–]CWBECK[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 54分前 (2子コメント)
I just think it's a bit disingenuous to have the day that's supposed to praise men is on the same day as trying to stop open deification, which is an issue that effects both genders and matters more about hygiene than anything else.
[–]Family-Duty-Hodor 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 46分前 (1子コメント)
deification
I think you meant defecation, which pretty much means the exact opposite.
[–]CWBECK[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 44分前 (0子コメント)
My bad.
[–]HQR3 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
I'd venture that the feminists who control all gender concerns in the U.N. deliberately chose this day to efface and insult men. They've been doing it in the U.N. for close to 30 years now, (e.g. UNICEF).
[–]willowsonthespot 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Wait what happened to UNICEF?
[–]FastFourierTerraform 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 47分前 (0子コメント)
Seconded. I have no clue what happened to UNICEF
[–]heldonhammer 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
which is why i dont donate to UNICEF
[–]primo_pastafarian 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 10分前 (1子コメント)
Can someone please explain to me what rape has to do with implementing sewage and waste infrastructure?
[–]HiiiPowerd 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
One of the most common ways women are raped in the developing world is going to the bathroom or getting water. Very common in India and Africa (Sudan in particular rings a bell)
[–]JakeDC 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Just to lighten the mood with relevant poop humor. (UNICEF anti public defecation video - with animated poops!)
[–]alexk245 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3分前 (0子コメント)
Holy shit, who gives a shit.
[–]Temperfuelmma 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 7分前 (0子コメント)
Not just men, every sensible woman should take offense at how disrespectfully the men in their lives are treated.
[–]tacosRcool -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Remember men don't have rights
[–]BottleofGreen 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 17分前 (1子コメント)
If you research a little more you will find out that the person who found the world toilet organization and world toilet day is a man named Jack Sim. Stop being angry over your own speculation and do some proper research. If a guy thought that toilets are more important than your manhood chances are so will the UN.
[–]CWBECK[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9分前* (0子コメント)
I'll keep that in mind when Women's Day is replaced with International Car Crash Victim Remembrance Day. It's almost like you're missing the actual point.
[+]MenandBoysareGood スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 2時間前 (6子コメント)
I hope Trump pulls out of the UN and other countries follow.
[–]LBJSmellsNice 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 1時間前 (3子コメント)
Over something like this? That seems pretty petty
[–]Brexit-the-thread -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
there are a lot of reasons to say "fuck you" to the UN and leave.
Such as the fact that Saudi Arabia is on the Human Rights Council perhaps?
[–]itsjosh18 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
That is the best joke I heard today...oh you were serious?
[–]Brexit-the-thread 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
While the concept of Saudi Arabia heading an International council for Human Rights does sound like a good punchline... it is in fact the reality we currently live in.
[–]fffjayare 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
It went pretty well last time major powers pulled out of the main intergovernmental org of the time.
[–]meeelting 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Only an idiot would want or even try to destabilize the world
[–]goblackbeard -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 12分前 (0子コメント)
That's pretty shorty of them.
[–]ustael -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 8分前 (0子コメント)
Since women have abandoned their day with #adaywithoutwomen I plan to take this day for men. My son and I are going shopping, gonna go to the barber for a haircut. A day without women IS international men's day!
[+]Drag0nV3n0m231 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 1時間前 (17子コメント)
I'm a bit more worried about the fact that 2.5 billion people don't have access to proper sanitation, but yeah, get triggered because you aren't getting honored.
[–]CWBECK[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 58分前 (16子コメント)
Except that's not the point. Having a day where you're honored for your gender in general is unnecessary, but it just seems kinda unfair that the day that's supposed to celebrate men and their existence is on the same day as an issue with proper sanitation all around the world, with this year in particular being about women and girls. It seems like they just kinda made up the date on the spot and they didn't really care to begin with, and even that day is overshadowed.
I'm not saying that poor hygiene in other countries isn't an issue, but it just seems shitty that the day that's supposed to be the male equivalent to celebrating women's existence is instead another day to bring light to women's issues.
[–]ColombianHugLord 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 23分前* (2子コメント)
I'm going to put it this way and I just hope this will resonate.
Do you feel that, worldwide, as a whole, the lives of men and women are equal? Do you think that nobody in the world is discriminated against for their gender or do you think that for every woman in the world oppressed men for being a woman that there is a man oppressed by women for being a man? Do you think that there are systems set up by women to keep men out of positions of power? Are there any countries in the world dominated by women who keep men down?
If you believe that premise, then you can just ignore me because you won't agree with this. If you do believe that, in many countries, there is oppression against women with no equivalent country where men are equally oppressed by women, then wouldn't it seem insensitive to have an international men's day? Think of women in Saudi Arabia who aren't allowed to drive, in Afghanistan where they have to cover themselves from head-to-toe, baby girls in China who were killed because parents were only allowed to keep one child and wanted a boy, India where young girls (mostly girls if not all) are trafficked as sex slaves, Somalia where 95% of girls undergo genital mutilation, think of women who are forced to marry their rapists. How would it seem to have a day celebrating men to tell women who live in countries where men are their oppressors, where men control their lives and run their world that they should remember to appreciate men?
I'm not saying there's anything actually wrong with having an International Men's Day. It has some good goals, but you can understand why internationally people would be hesitant to promote it. International groups tend to focus on causes aimed towards oppressed groups and poverty issues.
[–]CWBECK[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 15分前 (1子コメント)
You act as if having a day to celebrate women for existing is somehow going to have those women in other countries who are legitimately oppressed somehow come out to the limelight and give themselves a hug. They're not. It's the international equivalent of giving a kid who didn't do anything a participation trophy even if all he did was show up.
You're essentially implying that men are never oppressed, or that oppression is only legitimate if it's the opposite gender that's oppressing you. It's not who's oppressing you, it's the fact that you're being treated like shit in general by people who claim to represent and speak for you even if they don't. That's the issue. The fact alone that you think men aren't treated like garbage by either of the two genders just for having a penis is telling.
Some nice speech isn't going to stop people from calling out stupid double standards when they see it. All the women in the West don't need a women's day, that's essentially every day for them, especially considering there are legitimately sexist female and male politicians in office. We empower and encourage them every day.
[–]ColombianHugLord 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1分前 (0子コメント)
You're kind of creating a false equivalency. Of course men do bad things to men, but that's also because it's mostly men who run the vast majority of governments and powerful organizations in the world. Most crimes against women are committed by men, most crimes against men are committed by men. Men face problems women will never face. Where militias force young girls into sex slavery they are forcing young boys to be soldiers. Boys are trafficked as sex slaves in the third world too. So does having a men's day celebrate only men who are victimized or is it about men in general?
But can you name any countries in the world where women control the majority of the government and where those women have set up systematic oppression of women?
And yes, an International Women's Day isn't actually very useful, but so is basically any day. Does Holocaust Remembrance Day undo the Holocaust, fix the damage done by it, or even prevent it from happening in the future? Does International Toilet Day mean there will be more toilets in the world? These are mostly symbolic, though there is hope that there will be donations to organizations that support these causes where they're needed.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 56分前 (12子コメント)
If it doesn't matter then why do you care. The cause of Worldly sanitation is much more important that praising men, and men don't need a recognition day, why DOES it matter? I understand it's on the same day but I somehow doubt it was on purpose
[–]CWBECK[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 53分前 (10子コメント)
Because it's an unfair double standard. It's half assed, like they just did it so they could cut men some slack but at the same time did it in a really lazy way.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 46分前 (9子コメント)
It's not a double standard. If there was a more important day we could be having instead of women's day, and weren't, that would be a double standard. Also, I have no idea what you said after that, because it certainly wasn't anything about what I said
[–]CWBECK[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 44分前 (8子コメント)
If there was a more important day we could be having instead of women's day, and weren't, that would be a double standard.
Yes, because there are no other important issues in existence that we could have a day about instead of celebrating women for being women.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 41分前 (7子コメント)
There there isn't a day for?
[–]CWBECK[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 37分前 (6子コメント)
Weird how there's no International Starvation Awareness Day. Or Day's that could be about specific jobs or occupations or roles that could contribute to society. Or diseases. Or social issues.
What is the point of having IWD as the important holiday on it's date but IMD isn't even important in comparison to another holiday on the same date? THAT is sexist and unfair, you're giving one group more attention then another for pretty much nothing.
[–]Richo262 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 32分前 (0子コメント)
I can see the argument though, I also think poop is more important than feminism.
[–]Drag0nV3n0m231 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 35分前 (4子コメント)
There IS and international starvation awareness day. And days about diseases
[–]CWBECK[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 32分前 (3子コメント)
Then why not have that day on March 8th instead of IWD?
[–]Haisha4sale 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4分前 (0子コメント)
See I thought the insulting part was the implication that somehow women will end up being raped because they don't have access to sanitation...how does one follow from the other?
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