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[–]2nd Best Comment 2016myrevival 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (7子コメント)

May lose Ian Healy's respect for that.

[–]adengappa11paer 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ofcourse he can't. Whatever respect Heals had left, he wasted it by losing it over Kohli.

[–]USAoh-just-another-guy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What did Healy say about Kohli?

[–]Royal Challengers BangaloreViratKolhi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]Melbourne Renegadescayal3 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

When and why is Healy commenting on Kohli anyway?

[–]lastballsix 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When he is Aussie . Because he is Aussie .

[–]ostrish 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's a... commentator?

[–]Melbourne Renegadescayal3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Channel 9 aren't covering the test

[–]South Africachristeebs 178 ポイント179 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Handscomb: "Whatever you do Smithy, don't look at the dressing room where I'm pointing, oop, got ya"

[–]Victoria Bushrangerskanga_lover 224 ポイント225 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Kholi showing a lot of class with that send off.

Who does he think he is, Australian?

[–]Melbourne Renegadescayal3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kholi showing a lot of class with that send off.

That slow motion fist pump made him look like a super villain.

[–]Israel Cricket AssociationMeForSure 151 ポイント152 ポイント  (0子コメント)

5-match ban if he was a Sri Lankan

[–]Victoria BushrangersBFGSkittles 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wouldn't that make it DRRS?

[–]IndiaAtomR 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then, it's Dressing-room Review System. DRS.

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe after this series they should call it Dressing/Undressing Rooms Review, Reversal and Reinstatement System, or DURRRRS

[–]Australialaserframe 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Handscome "Look at all we have left in the dressing room, you have to review this"

[–]IndiaDance_Solo 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Look at that starc boy with that shitty haircut. And lyon, he doesn't even have any hair. We can't win with them."

[–]Victoria Bushrangersvrkas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Holy shit MMarsh is next. Save me skipper."

[–]Australian Capital Territory Cometsdrilwint 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is it just me or is Llong always frantically shaking his hand/head at someone?

[–]kpisagenius 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's british, what do you expect?

[–]AustraliaCoopersPaleAle 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

r/britishproblems

I shook my hands vigorously at Steve Smith and now I have RSI. What do?

[–]Western Australia WarriorsCertifiedUser 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give Shaun Marsh out LBW to a ball not even close to hitting the stumps.
That'll teach the convict rapscallion

[–]inspectorkido 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Llong to Smith: Oi you! You can't do that, you can't look at the dressing room! Smith: turns around rapidly heads off Kohli (angry): You see what he's doing, I told you. Llong: I got your back mate, sorry about that decision before. I'll take on Smith don't you worry, goodness knows I need to do something to win NZ over after that Lyon decision. Kohli: Are they still salty about that? Llong: Yeah a bit mate, I cost them the match you see.

[–]New Zealand CricketOldWolf2 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could've been anyone.

[–]Indiaexxentricity 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good of Nigel Llong there. Made it easy for all involved.

[–]Australian Capital Territory Cometsbeefsack 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, except I still think there's a potential issue there for Smith.

What if the dressing room said not to review it because it was so obviously out? Finding out that you shouldn't review is just as beneficial as finding out that you should review.

Part of me hopes some sort of punishment is handed down to make sure a precedent is set.

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's explicitly what he's allowed to do within the rules - deny the batsman any request to review.

[–]KohlisBeard 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

DRS is gonna be the Shaun Pollock moment for South Africa in next World Cup. You heard it here first!

[–]Cricket Kenyajangra_pula 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kohli just mentioned in the post match conference that this is something that the Aussies had been doing over the past three days and that the Indians had already observed and reported it to the match ref and the umpires, which is why Llong had been alert the moment Smith turned.

If true, this completely puts the theory of a brain fade from Smith's end to rest. Seems more like dirty fucking tactics.

[–]Flamey12 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (16子コメント)

i'll admit - i didn't even know it was against the rules.

[–]JetsFanInDenver 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But you are not the captain of a Test team. So does not matter what you know or do not know. Steve Smith on the other hand......

[–]Flamey12 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More of a ... today i learned comment... Not a.. my opinion holds any weight comment. But yeh course he should know.

[–]Indiafreshsalsadip 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

duh

[–]Flamey12 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is it really that obvious? He's out either way. Only possible advantage is a review isn't blown. Imagine if it wasn't against the rules, India would save like every single review!

[–]New South Wales Bluesr3dphoenix 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's more obvious when you ask yourself "imagine if Shane Watson was allowed to ask the dressing room for advice?"

[–]CanadaMarwield 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

honestly wouldn't get much of an advantage ANYWAY. 15s is not enough time other than a quick replay maybe.

[–]New Zealand Cricketmercival 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The richer cricket teams could easily have an AV team live record the delivery, and have it come up with easy things like where it pitched or hit the pads, zoom in to see if it hit bad or pad first.

It's a good rule to not turn it into a technology race, while also preserving cricket to being just about those on the field.

[–]India5upersub 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, TV in dressing room provides better angle than the non-striker. Also they have access to commentary.

[–]veernimbus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dressing room listens to commentary?? 😳

[–]PatiR 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What kind of GOAT king follows orders of others ?Not my GOAT not my king.False GOAT Smith.Looking to dressing room at the suggestion of plebs like Handscomb.

The only true king the only one GOAT is king Kohli.He reviews before umpire raises his hand.The umpire knows he will have to review before he even gives the decision.

[–]New Zealand Cricketmercival 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Way too much bleating there mate.

[–]IndiaOne_more_username 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did that turn you on, Sheepshagger? <3

[–]India_tatte_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He reviews before umpire raises his hand. The umpire knows he will have to review before he even gives the decision.

Pretty sure he was joking.

[–]Kings XI Punjabnew-monk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck the GOAT. Fuck the King.

[–]Western Australia WarriorsCertifiedUser 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Australiaguessishouldjoin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"one of the things I look forward to is being able to come home and shit on my couch in front of the Oled"

[–]JetsFanInDenver 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (14子コメント)

The irony is Kohli will get fined for reacting to Smith cheating and Smith will walk away scot free for cheating.

[–]unitedkush 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kohli chiming in on DRS/HotSpot in Press Conference, I'll try my best to paraphrase.

He admitted that more tech we could add would improve the game and hopes HotSpot would be available soon for the home season soon. Made a point regarding umpires call because the rule is we stick with the umpires call even when hawkeye and DRS shows otherwise, said he didn't take LBW decision personally as that's the nature of current rule. Some go your way others don't.

Also admitted that India are pretty bad at using DRS and it's something they hope to improve upon but added whenever they take a review they take it by themselves and take full responsibility for it unlike others who look to the dressing room for help.

[–]Indiafreshsalsadip 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure why the Aussies are so riled up about this..Handscomb clearly tells smith to look at the dressing room for help and smith definitely looks at the dressing room for some help..clear violation of rules aka cheating.

[–]Cricket Australiainsty1 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Kohli was within his rights to complain about Smith looking up to the stands. Carrying on about it after the umpires intervened immediately was ridiculous. The umpires reacted perfectly.

[–]inspectorkido 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not the biggest Kohli fan. But if the opposition is cheating and at it again. I would be pretty riled up.

[–]India_dexter[S] 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently, Australia have been taking help from the dressing room for days and India have complained to the match referee about it. So - Kohli's reaction is completely justified.

[–]gco0307 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that the match referee has stated that no such advice was received by or from the umpires nor the indian team so who is lying?

[–]Cricket AustraliaAweios 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can clearly see Handscomb motion to Smith to check the dressing room and instantly Smith does. No thought into it at all. That's clearly a mistake on his part without thinking.

Then he leaves as soon as the umpires comes while Handscomb looks hilariously confused. Looks like he didn't know about the rule and Smith forgot in the moment and got reminded of it.

[–]India_dexter[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have pointed out the role of Handscomb too in other comments.

[–]JetsFanInDenver 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So according to some comments in this thread, Smith who got caught cheating red-handed should be given the benefit of the doubt and it was only a brain fade. But Kohli on the other hand who was the one trying to prevent this cheating and uphold the spirit of the game, is the one who cannot be trusted about this contention that the Australians are been doing it for three days. The irony.

[–]shaneson582 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

will healy lose respect for smith now?

[–]Rhizomatiq 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (10子コメント)

why is everyone so hell bent on calling players cheats

odds are he was under pressure, upset and had a gaffe

probably wasn't malicious like holy shit you people look for the worst in everyone

[–]Dunkaegon 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kohli claimed Smith did it twice when Australia were bowling to him.

[–]India_dexter[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

why is everyone so hell bent on calling players cheats

Kolhi just said that Australia have been doing this throughout the last 3 days and India had complained to the match referee/umpires.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/5xzo5c/kohli_at_todays_press_conferences_says_we_noticed/

[–]raptornex 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Match referee Chris Broad told The Daily Telegraph after play that the only time umpires were aware of Australians looking up to the box during DRS was the Smith incident

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-lose-611-to-lose-second-test-against-india-by-75-runs/news-story/0b5a1fc8b79493cac6e285b9c741d166

[–]sept2209 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

no official statement yet

[–]Cricket AustraliaXandervdw 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what you're saying is Kholi was talking shit... I don't believe it. Hahaha

[–]Indiaaak_056 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because he was caught doesn't mean he didn't try.

[–]vijaydhinanathC -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah but history speaks for itself doesn't it.

[–]Dislocated_femur 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh yes, the whole entire current Australian cricket team are cheats because of players of the past. Great logic

[–]England and Wales Cricket BoardAcePlague 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's nice to see we are being open about it now ;)

[–]km255 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That was as blatant as cheating as you'd see in a test match!

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. Scratching the ball with bottle tops, lollies in mouths and pockets, pitch doctoring, picking up a ball off the ground and claiming a catch (looking at you Greg Dyer), dropping a ball cold and claiming a stumping (Heals), bowling of deliberate no balls, so an and so forth have been a damn site more blatant

[–]Indiafreshsalsadip 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nigel Llong is a great dad

[–]AustraliaKermit-Batman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wanted a nice game where everyone had fun and watched Hazlewood do Hazlewood things. If what Kohli said is true I'm not opposed to a one match ban, or huge fine for Smith, (as much as I would hate it.) I'd accept if a one time thing that it was a very stupid move that warrants some punishment... what that is would be anyone's guess... maybe ban Mitchell Marsh for a few games?

Can't have double standards as a country and can't have things that degrade a performance of a team if it was one person (two in this case), also spirit of the game and all that.

There is a lot of salt here, I'd wait to see what was confirmed first and remember that banter is fun until it becomes mean and derogatory.

Think of poor Hazlewood, sitting there, one Hazlewood for review it, two Hazlewood's for don't...

Also, third games going to be interesting isn't it!

[–]Delhi Daredevilshoha7 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (13子コメント)

My fellow Indians need to stop overreacting. Yes it is cheating and should be punished. It wasn't cool at all, and all the aussies accept that. Stop calling them out for being sore losers though, they've been pretty graceful

[–]Indiafried_maggi 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Aussie fans should stop overreacting. Just because some Indian fans say Aussie are sore losers, it need not be true.

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Genuine question ........... how was it cheating? Yes he broke a rule but that in itself does not define cheating as if so, then most players would be accused due to their abuse/manner in which they appeal or sledge. Alternately, cheating would be claiming a catch that you know did not occur, appealing for (as example) and LBW when you know that the ball hit bat first, or appealing for a catch when it is clear that the ball was not hit .......... an incredibly common occurrence but one where we do not hear the term cheat used

[–]Delhi Daredevilshoha7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Well first of all, none of those things are illegal, whether it be sledging or appealing when you know it's not out. That's just you trying your luck and getting aggressive.
This though is illegal and not only that, you are taking outside opinion of people who had a better view of the incident to influence the game. Those people have no business in influencing the game at that time.
Imagine playing COD online, and someone telling you where people on are on the map by viewing as a spectator.

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Not quite true actually as they can fall into the 'spirit of the game' laws as well as 'conduct prejudicial' type of things so yes, they can be considered as illegal. As for taking outside counsel I don't disagree but again to me if it falls into cheating then so does claiming catches known to bounce, LBW's you know are not out and so forth. They are all about gaining an unfair advantage are they not? By the way, I am not a gamer so have no idea how COD (I assume is Call of Duty) works but if I understand the analogy they are two distinct separate things (and this looks worse for Smith with this comment) but a person who is competitive will use whatever means possible as spirit of competition does not exist any more. I would throw a different analogy to try to explain. Many years ago in the World Matchplay of Golf, Nick Faldo hit the ball long and after a few seconds the ball suddenly appeared from the crowd back onto the green and nearer the flag. People saw what happened but not who threw the ball back and under the laws of the game, Faldo got to play the ball from where it finished as no official saw anything untoward that could be proved, Faldo was not called nor labelled a cheat but his ethics were questioned.

[–]Delhi Daredevilshoha7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

For the situations you stated, claiming catches and LBWs, they still depend on the umpire. He's free to do as he wills and if he has even a little doubt, he will go to the 3rd umpire. So you can't affect the game on major level there.
When you are taking outside counsel though like Smith did, you are affecting it on a major level as your actions directly influence the game as there would be no neutral authority like an umpire in between. The analogy I stated is actually much more similar then you'd think. Getting a spectator(from your party) who has a better view of the situation to help you is what happens in both of them. If someone in the crowd had told him to go/not go for the review, that would've been similar to your analogy. But this is his dressing room we're talking about. Reviews are meant to be decided upon by the batsman and his partner who was on the field, not your team who saw it up close on the television

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Except, even if Smith were allowed to review the decision the third umpire is again involved which, based on your responses that claiming a catch/LBW is ok because ultimately the umpire makes the decision, would almost say that there is little difference as ultimately the decision is that of the umpire, just that how that umpire was asked varies.

[–]Delhi Daredevilshoha7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Lol yes but he's being told whether to use a review or not, and reviews are very limited. So he's being told how to utilize the very limited resource his team has by someone who's not permitted to and is from his side. There is no limit to the times you can appeal for an LBW/claim a catch.
Like I said, If he didn't ask for it and someone from the crowd told him and he listened to him, that would be ethically bad not cheating. Just like the analogy you mentioned. But when you specifically ask for it, it gets beyond being ethically bad.
Imagine giving a test, you overheard the person sitting next to you say the answer and wrote it down. That's not cheating, it's ethically bad, just your luck. But if you ask him for it, it becomes cheating.

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Let me as you this way (and queue down votes) Did India (the BCCI not the individual team members even though there have been some names mentioned) cheat or try to cheat at Pune with the wicket preparations? Or, did they try to cheat but got caught out? EDIT TO ADD As for how he uses reviews and when, it is he that needs to live with a poor review (just as Shane Watson has, and same as Kohli in first test) so wasting a review is out. Actually though you raise an interesting point - should the attempt have counted?

[–]Delhi Daredevilshoha7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If BCCI changed the pitch every night to favor their team the next day, that would be cheating. But preparing wickets that favor your team's strengths is not cheating as both the teams get to play on the same pitch. Like pitches in England favor the pacers, here that happens for spinners. Could call it unethical but not cheating.
Yeah so someone else's knowledge should not play any part in his decision to take the review or not. If he only had successful reviews after talking to his dressing room, while the other team doesn't get any help and wastes a lot of reviews, you think that'd be fair?
The attempt should've been counted but that's besides the point. The point is if he's gonna be penalized to set an example going forward that this will not be tolerated. I mean look at them just standing there, waving and asking in the middle of the ground. Looks shameful.

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Interesting. So it is not cheating (but is unethical) to attempt to influence the result of a match by seeking outside assistance that may favour your team, but it is cheating if you seek your team's assistance to make a decision when you are the other team? We will never agree as for mine if one is cheating so must the other be as you have stated that seeking outside assistance of your team is cheating, thus either Pune was cheating or it wasn't (which then flows the other way). As for reviews, what is to stop other teams from employing the same methods as if one does it then all will at least try it. Don't believe me, well look at the way India have approached the Australians across the last few years where they are now vocal and in your face with sledging/abuse because they know the effect it had on them so wish to return serve to see if they get the same result (works in some cases, not so in others). So far btw it is reported that no charges have been laid against anyone so we do not know but as for shameful, is it any less shameful that rabid abuse of batsman, constant sledging of batsman, telling players to f*ck off when dismissed, pulling faces, or virtually accusing others of cheating? Is it as shameful as a lolly in the mouth whilst you shine a ball, or running in the direction of umpires when they are making decisions and so on?

[–]vijaydhinanathC 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (26子コメント)

You have to appreciate how innovative Aussies are when it comes to cheating. Doubt other teams can even think of these things.

[–]India_dexter[S] 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (23子コメント)

And once being pointed out, the apparent "cricket fans" are down voting it. In fact, one of the top rated comment here is on how Smith did not cheat because the umpire didn't allow him to. There's more spin to that than the pitch out in Bangalore right now.

[–]giants888 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Same people who think attempted murder isn't a crime. "But the police stopped them!"

[–]Israel Cricket AssociationMeForSure 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wew

[–]AustraliaZaphod48 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a real stretch...

[–]AustraliaEskimoJesus 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, we could be a little easier on Smith if he just tried to kill someone!

[–]Australiasellyme 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, do they give out Nobel Prizes for "Attempted Chemistry"?

[–]giants888 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They do for attempted literature...

[–]SpaceMonkeyRage 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Comparing trying to kill someone to a minor incident in a game of cricket. I knew Indians love their crickey but wow

[–]Sykik165 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's an analogy about how laws work, so what's wrong? I know Australians have a history of being on the wrong side of the law, but ... jeez.

[–]gco0307 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Attempted Murder is just that - an attempt to kill someone.

Murder means that you were successful with your attempt.

Smith can be considered to have attempted but was not successful in getting his dismissal reviewed.

Referencing Australian law definitions here - not sure if they are one and the same in other jurisdictions

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

In fact, one of the top rated comment here is on how Smith did not cheat because the umpire didn't allow him to.

Hooo boy that's a doozy. The rules specifically state that's what the umpire is supposed to do if the players are suspected of having outside help - all they can do within the rules is deny any chance to review.

[–]India_dexter[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It does not mean that Smith did not cheat. The umpires denying a chance to review has got little bearing on Smith's cheating.

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Well I never said he didn't break the rules... but the excuse that the umpire didn't let him cheat is just plain wrong.

[–]India_dexter[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well I never said he didn't break the rules...

Glad to see you agree that Smith cheated.

the excuse that the umpire didn't let him cheat is just plain wrong.

How?

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Glad to see you agree that Smith cheated.

Well I do have eyes, and I can read.

How?

Because the umpire was doing exactly what the rules allow him to do:

3.2 (c) ... If the umpires believe that the captain or batsman has received direct or indirect input emanating other than from the players on the field, then they may at their discretion decline the request for a Player Review. In particular, signals from the dressing room must not be given.

The umpire did all he could do, it's the only "punishment" he could have dealt out within the rules. Don't forget that the umpire doesn't know if a request for review would have been successful or not at this point. How exactly is the umpire preventing Smith from cheating? He'd already done the deed before that point. What else do you expect the umpire to do?

[–]India_dexter[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

How exactly is the umpire preventing Smith from cheating?

Cheating means acting unfairly to gain advantage - which is what Smith tried to do. Smith was caught cheating and paid the price on field according to the rules. But, Smith was cheating.

[–]South Australia Redbacksdexter311 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah but tell me... how exactly did the umpire LET him do that?!? If anything, the umpire flatly DENIED him the chance to achieve any sort of advantage. Just because we can look in hindsight and see that the review might have been wasted, that makes absolutel no difference when you're in the umpire's shoes in THAT MOMENT.

You can't apply hindsight to this, it's unfair on the umpire. Take off your India-tinted hindsight goggles just for one second, please. The umpire had two options - let him review, or deny him the chance to review. When you apply hindsight, then yeah the umpire is fucked either way, but given the circumstances at the time, what could he have done differently?

[–]India_dexter[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When did I say the umpire let him do it? I said Smith tried to cheat.

[–]Indiaphtark 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Massive, and rather unfair generalization there.

[–]Melbourne StarsPhenton123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing about the ball, it didn't bounce at all.

[–]Queensland BullsRecklessWabbit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

This whole "nasty Aussies" thing seems familiar....oh right

Tune in next year for whatever it is we can complain about next

[–]Dunkaegon 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Salty Aussies" is soon going to become a thing.

[–]KohlisBeard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just turn the clock back 24-36 hours and check match thread from Day 3. JFC, the hypocrisy is unbelievable!

[–]Queensland BullsRecklessWabbit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't get me wrong, a lot of us are just as bad, which is why I'm mostly staying away from this series

[–]Wurtle 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The bantz were great all summer but this series threads are mostly garbage I feel you mate

[–]KohlisBeard 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

India hosted so many teams this season. This series was the first instance I left a match thread because of all the bullying and bad behavior. It was much better yday thanks to the mods who banned users posting racist comments.

[–]EnglandRufusSG 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I expect this thread to be completely calm and civil.

Joking aside, whilst it's against the rules and the umpire was right to get involved, I don't think Smith was being malicious - you can do all sorts of things under pressure.

[–]AustraliaAzzaLT 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Waiting for this to feature in another "Aussie cheating in cricket" video.

[–]adengappa11paer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hope I don't get a brain fade when I try to remember this comment.

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    [–][deleted] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (20子コメント)

    Appendix 1, 3.2 c), looking to anyone other than players on the field when deciding a review means that your ability to review is cancelled. Which means all Smith did was prevent himself from being able to review if he wanted to. No cheating about it.

    https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/ICC/document/2017/01/09/d3d9fe18-eea4-402b-87fc-b92a20b5e396/Standard-Test-Match-Playing-Conditions-2016-17.pdf

    [–]India_dexter[S] 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Which means all Smith did was prevent himself from being able to review if he wanted to. No cheating about it.

    Smith tried to cheat and go outside the rules to see if he can get more better information to take advantage of the DRS. Smith tried to cheat but the umpires caught him. Just because you were not able to successfully skirt the lines, doesn't mean you didn't cheat. You cheated but were unsuccessful.

    [–]stonecoldmorrison 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Smith didnt cheat with intention. He was just having a brain fart moment. Cheating is too big a word.

    [–]Indiafreshsalsadip 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Give this man some gold

    [–][deleted] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Sorry I don't understand where this cheating allegation comes from? It's pretty clear in the laws of the game that it isn't cheating, if you bother to actually read them.

    You cunts are bad winners.

    [–]India_dexter[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The law of the game does not mention the word "cheating" - so anything on the cricket field is not cheating at all.

    [–][deleted] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That doesn't explain the cheating allegation from yourself and several other commenters. Is kohli a cheat for standing his ground and have a hissy fit when he gets out?

    [–]India_dexter[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nice shift of goal post - you cunts are bad losers.

    [–]Chennai Super KingsDoubledoor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So, what if it was clearly out and he was signaled to not use/waste a review?

    [–]Indiasscomp32 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Kohli roasting smith on this in PC. Absolutely roasted smith . One for the ages this PC was.

    He said they were doing it since the start of the match .

    Fucking aussies cheats back to thier tactics.

    [–]shassamyak 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    I have been watching cricket from 3 decades now. Never in those 30 years have I ever seen any australian team showing cricketing spirit. From not allowing runners,abuse of players by fans,sledging,false complaints on made up grounds,biased media and articles,hurtful questions by reporters,poor travelling arrangements for touring teams,having preferred hotels for touring teams far from the cricket grounds while their being near and now cheating. Smith needs to be fined or banned.

    [–]Australiaschmuttt 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Man, like you guys won today deservedly so, but jesus the hypocrisy.....

    • 'Abuse of players by fans' Whole crowd chanting Symonds is a monkey, anyone who mutters a racist comment at an Australian match is reported and booted out whilst you literally had thousands of people calling Roy a monkey

    • 'False complaints'. Singh either called Symonds a monkey or Symonds misheard, are you really stupid enough to think the players literally made that all up?

    • 'Biased media and articles' LOL WTF yours is just as bad as ours!

    • 'Poor travelling arrangements' you mean when your team flies to a 1st world country and CA bend over backwards to make you happy because you bring so much money

    [–]shassamyak 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    !'Poor travelling arrangements' you mean when your team flies to a 1st world country

    The subtle racism and elitism of white skin.

    [–]Australiaschmuttt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hahahahahaha, Indians always the first to cry racism (Yet I don't see something that is a factual statement as being racist?). I see you e glossed over the Symonds crowd stuff, oh and I don't remember any Australian cricket captains describing the West Indian people as 'subhuman' and 'they should be swinging from trees' (Read Gavaskars autobiography, he personifies the Indian victim complex).

    [–]shassamyak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Indians are race victim. We have faced racism first hand for over 200 years. We still face it all over the world. There should be no doubt it. Remember all that attack happened on Indians in australia 3 years back. If symmonds really was wronged he would not have played IPL.

    [–]Queensland BullsHugh_Jorgan_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Never in 30 years? I've read some pure filth in these threads today and I'm spent, your comment however takes the cake. Congratulations.

    [–]New Zealand CricketDarkwind85 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He is not wrong. Australians have always been poor sportsmen with their win at all costs mentality, regardless of the sport. Ask yourself why in both Cricket and Rugby, Australians are seen as extremely poor sports and filthy, by every other nation.

    [–]Queensland BullsHugh_Jorgan_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If I wanted to hear from an arsehole I would have farted.

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    Can we all stop acting like this is the greatest travesty ever in test cricket. He made a mistake which he just admitted in the press conference. The umpires stepped in and made everyone well aware of the rules. In terms of 'crimes' in cricket this is pretty minor.

    [–]South AfricaAggeneeman 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I remember the entire country coming to a standstill when Faf Du Plessis touched a mint with his finger and him getting booed when scoring a century, but sure, only the Indians overreact /s

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Faf was found guilty of ball tampering. Pretty significant compared to Smith looking at the dressing room, being told he couldn't do that and walking off without a fuss. Then admitting his mistake at the first opportunity. Faf fought his charge to the bitter end.

    [–]South AfricaAggeneeman 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    So the Australian cricket public gave a measured, proportional response to Faf's offence, but the Indians are overreacting and pretending this is the greatest travesty in test cricket, right?

    [–]India_dexter[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    This isn't a competition about what is worse. So, yeah - this is not a travesty but Smith was trying to skirt the rules. Lets accept that part. WHY he did it, is irrelevant.

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    How is why he did it irrelevant?

    [–]India_dexter[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Because I'm not arguing for a fine or a ban for Smith.

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    You've just stated in another comment that actions have consequences...

    [–]India_dexter[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Actions, not intentions.

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    So what are the consequences you mentioned then?

    [–]India_dexter[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Actions have consequences - I don't decide the consequences. All I'm saying is that consequences have to be there. The nature of consequences will be decided by the ones who have the power to decide.

    [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Many splinters on that fence? You say Smith cheated but don't want to offer a punishment

    [–]India_dexter[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'm not the judge to offer a punishment. You make me the match referee, get me a hearing and I will.

    [–]adengappa11paer 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So, nothing wrong in calling out a cheat as cheat then?? Simples

    [–]inspectorkido 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He didn't really own up fully to it. He was like, bit of a brain freeze, Handscomb was the one who gestured. If he really wanted to admit it, he should have outright said what I did was wrong and not in the spirit of the game.

    [–]Royal Challengers Bangalorebnffn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The apology is welcomed, but Smith needs to be punished by the ICC for this.

    [–]IndiaWizardChips 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ITT - blah blah blah aussie cheating dogs etc etc

    [–]AustraliafurBug 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The outrage machine in full motion here. Move along Australians, nothing to see.

    [–]Tasmania TigersNoUseForALagwagon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Handscomb clearly initiates that by pointing to the dressing room. Smith is caught up in the heat of the moment, he has got a roaring crowd in his ear, he has been given out at a crucial time and Kohli and Yadav are screaming sweet nothings at him.

    Smith fucked up, but was caught in the moment. However, if Handscomb loses his whole match fee, I am fine with it.

    [–]India_dexter[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Unfortunately, actions should have consequences - not words. Smith was free to reject Handscomb suggestion.

    [–]Victoria Bushrangersnotkhrushchevsghost 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Remember that Handscomb is very new to DRS. It's unlikely he knew what he was doing was illegal, as it is something that, after around 7 years of DRS, has not really been brought up like this.

    [–]India_dexter[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Absolute cunt move by Steve Smith and Handscomb - it was him who suggested Smith to check with the dressing room and Smith went for it. Stupid!

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      [–]CanadaMarwield 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (13子コメント)

      You will get downvoted because you aren't contributing to discussion too.

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        [–]CanadaMarwield 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        I mean you were being quite crude though calling all downvoters cunts and Australian. Loosen up a bit and be less directly aggressive with your banter and you'll fair a lot better.

        [–]Cricket AustraliaAweios 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Report them then. Nobody likes a facebook commenter here.

        [–]stonecoldmorrison 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The way Handscomb told Steve Smith to ask the dressing room makes it seem like that these guys have been doing it for a while now.

        [–]Chennai Super Kingsrunrage -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        always fun to see aussies being given right back. bunch of sore losers if ever there were one

        [–]SpaceMonkeyRage 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I haven't seen one person trying to make a connection to this incident to why Australia lost. The final session yesterday won India the game plain and simple.

        [–]Pistolsz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Has anyone here even seen Indian media after this?They basically forgot everything that journalists are suppose to do i.e fair and unbiased review.

        There was a segment on a channel that I won't name,The segment's name translates to"Dishonest,Cheating,horrible Australians".They basically forgot that it isn't proven yet that Aussies did do the same thing before.

        Does Aussie media have the same kinda selective hearing that Indian media does?

        [–]adengappa11paer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        News flash: Media everywhere is biased to their teams and are relatively shite.

        Channel 9 is effin biased for starters.

        [–]AustraliaRogue_Jellybean 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        You have to think though...If Australia were cheating, why didn't they review for SMarsh?

        [–]mkoasis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        because Smith said "go"

        [–]Australiaropeable 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That pitch in Pune was cheating, backfired big time.

        [–]AustraliaOzwegian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Could someone explain the whole situation to me please?

        [–]New Zealand CricketRipCityGGG 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Aussies gotta Aussie