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Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz stopped by CNN’s New Day this morning to discuss the GOP’s new sorta-plan for healthcare in America. The plan, he explains, cuts out the things people don’t want, like the mandate to buy health insurance.

The mandate, of course, is what pays for the things that people do want, like staying under your parents insurance until you’re 26 and being covered despite pre-existing conditions. It is also what is supposed to keep the costs of health insurance down.

But Jason Chaffetz wants Americans to know that they can afford the GOP Healthcare plan as well! Just so long as they don’t also want to purchase other things, like an iPhone.

“You know what, Americans have choices. And they’ve got to make a choice. And so maybe, rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

You may be wondering — why, if the GOP plan costs less than the ACA and is so much better, why do people have to now sacrifice things?

Well, you see — instead of having money for both healthcare and a new iPhone, you just pay more for your healthcare and don’t get that new iPhone. It all comes out in the wash, and makes lots of sense when you think about it. The problem is not that the GOP plan for healthcare is going to cost you more money, it’s that yougreedy, lazy sonofabitch that you are — for some reason also want to be able to purchase other things. And so if you don’t buy the cellphone, the GOP plan isn’t any more expensive than the ACA. (It is still more expensive than the ACA.) LOGIC!

Plus, you get the peace of mind in knowing that healthy rich people won’t have to sacrifice anything. Isn’t that nice?

Chaffetz later appeared on Fox News and attempted to clarify his statements — noting that he did not explain his sentiments as smoothly as he could have — while still saying the exact same thing: that poor people need to learn to sacrifice some things in order to be able to go see a doctor when they are sick.

Jason Chaffetz believes in self-reliance, OK? He lived a hard-scrabble life as son of a man formerly married to Kitty Dukakis, a connection that helped him secure a position as a Utah co-chairman of Michael Dukakis’s 1988 campaign while he was still attending college at Brigham Young University (which he attended on a football scholarship), prior to his drift to the Right. Maybe if all these poor people had simply had the good sense to be born to people with some decent connections and be better at football, they would not have to choose between healthcare and iPhones, huh?

Now sure — you might say that without the sacrifice of his fellow taxpayers, Chaffetz would not be where he is today, being able to afford both healthcare and iPhones. If taxpayers had not funded Michael Dukakis’s term as governor of Massachusetts, he never would have gotten that important political campaign experience. If he had not been elected to Congress, he would not have a paycheck, nor would he be eligible for the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program — which would allow him the same benefits as the ACA, only with better options — once the ACA is repealed. But to expect some richer taxpayers to sacrifice a little so that poor people who are not even Jason Chaffetz can have healthcare and iPhones? That would just be silly.

Oh, and just one teeny other thing: the new GOP healthcare plan doesn’t just tell you to stop buying iPhones every month, which is definitely a thing that people do. It also kicks you off Medicaid if you have a home. Don’t worry, you can keep warm at the hobo trash can fire!

[The Hill]

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  • Nounverb911
    • suziq

      Well, my iPhone cost about the same as my health insurance. For one month. So-some people won’t be able to buy a new iPhone every month? I didn’t know people did that.

    • Lascauxcaveman

      He’s showing he doesn’t understand how insurance pools work. Or taxes in general.

      “I like to drive my car, but don’t think I should be forced to pay gas taxes. I’m OK with crumbling highways and bridges, and don’t want to pay to replace them. Also, no car insurance. It’s my choice not to have car insurance. I’ll pay out of pocket if I get in an accident, which will never, ever happen.”

  • dslindc

    Fuck Jason Chaffetz (R-Fame Whore) with so many votes.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      “You’re welcome America!”
      Utah’s 3rd Congressional District

  • FlownΩver

    Again, Most Punchable. You can talk about your Shreklis and your Cruzes, but Jason –Nothing Compares 2 U.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Life, Liberty, Property. Pick any two.”
    John LockeJason Chaffetz

  • BoatOfVelociraptors

    At least the CEO s standing between you and your doctor get a tax break!

  • Nounverb911
  • Latverian Diplomat

    “I needed a kidney and all I got was this iPhone.”

  • MynameisBlarney
  • calliecallie

    Kicks you off Medicaid if you have a home??!!?! I was all set to say something shitty about Jason Chafe-Its, and then I read that little rage inducing bit. I know plenty of people in that category, some related to me. These bastards. Everybody call your congresscritter. Again.

    • PubOption

      Applies to equity in a home. Therefore those with mostly paid-off mortgages (primarily olds) will be screwed the worst.

  • President in Exile Firefly

    Everyone get in line! (Yeah, yeah, with votes.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc

  • dslindc

    Having spend the first 31 years of my life in Utah, I’m not delusional to the point of thinking a Democrat could win in his district, but there must be a sane Republican in Utah’s 3rd who can dispense with this asshole.

    • goonemeritus

      Clearly being “sane” is deficit that no Republican candidate can overcome in the present political climate.

      • dslindc

        It’s interesting. Word today is that there is a Democrat ready to challenge him, but she’s a doctor from the part of his district in Salt Lake County, which would be great, but will never happen. They need a Republican from the Utah County part of the district to primary him for the best chance.

  • Toledo Window Box

    Yes – people should buy health insurance rather than an expensive toy. Good point.

    Problem is, you’re Jason Chaffetz – a twisted partisan Republican fucktard – and you have no interest whatsoever in making healthcare affordable.

  • Latverian Diplomat

    “Plan ahead people. Get sick when you’ve saved up enough. How hard is this?”
    — Jason Chaffetz

  • TundraGrifter

    So they want to replace ObamaCare with TrumpDon’tCare.

    Got it.

  • Oblios_Cap

    you just pay more for your healthcare and don’t get that new iPhone.

    Better save enough for a flip phone, though. You may need to call for help.

  • Jenny

    I has a cheap phone cuz I need to feed people other than myself. I has healthcare for now and in a few more years I’ll be tenured enough to have for a lifetime. Unless republicans fuck that over too and dammit each year they try!

    I am sick of working all the time and not having nice things so the rich inherited having it all shits can go get wasted in Ibiza this week. Fuck you, Jason, you stupid dick tonsil.

  • calliecallie

    Michael Dukakis has a lot to answer for.

  • Crystalclear12

    Even the GOP base will figure out they were screwed when they lose their insurance and they’re armed.

    Something to think about, Chaffetz.

    • Latverian Diplomat

      Unfortunately, they will get (initially) cheaper insurance that doesn’t cover anything.

      But I predict they will mostly be enthusiastic until illness strikes, then….they’ll blame the Democrats.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        yup, never underestimate the utter stupidity of the GOPee base

    • TundraGrifter

      Notice getting kicked off Medicare starts in 2020 – after the next Presidential election. I’m sure that’s pure coincidence.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        many of the other provisions don’t kick in until after the next mid terms

  • Latverian Diplomat

    If I opt not to buy health insurance, can I get a tax deduction for an iPhone purchase? You did say they were interchangeable, Jason.

    • dslindc

      That’s true! If I don’t buy a new iPhone, will I have to pay 30% more for the next one?

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Are iPhones cheaper in Canada?

  • memzilla Ω

    Ah, Jason updated the old “how can they be poor if they have a teevee and a refrigerator?” black-hearted canard.

    And let’s be perfectly clear about one thing. RYANCARE IS NOT ABOUT DELIVERING HEALTH CARE, IT IS ABOUT GIVING THE RICH BACK THEIR TAX MONEY THAT THE ACA USED TO PAY FOR HEALTHCARE.

    • TundraGrifter

      Why do poor folks have a stove and a refrigerator? Other than the obvious fact they want to eat?

      Because they rent – not own. And many communities require landlords to supply a stove. Some require a refrigerator.

      TV’s you can buy on extremely expensive easy-to-get credit. If banks still had branches open in poor neighborhoods these people might have a better financial situation (“might” because banks tend to ripoff poor people). But we don’t want to reach for the stars here.

      • Latverian Diplomat

        Do you want hot food or cold food? Pick one people. You don’t need both a stove and a refrigerator!

        Why that’s a couple months of health insurance right there!

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    But, but, I had healthcare AND an Obamaphone!

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      And now you won’t have either!

  • goonemeritus

    I thought everyone got their I Phone free from Obama.

  • freakishlypersistent

    I fully expect congress, in solidarity and “sacrifice”, to have the same health care as they foist upon the people they allegedly represent. And pay for it THEMSELVES.

  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    How am I going to call 911 now?

  • Bill D. Burger
  • suziq

    Okay, in the Fox News thing above, and in the tweet from the conservative dude, they both are still calling it Obamacare. Is this to keep distance from their great replacement because they know nobody will like it? It can’t be a mistake if they are all calling it that.

    • freakishlypersistent

      Of course. Reform kneecap a program people like and then tell them it’s a crushing disaster. Blame Democrats. Go on recess. Repeat.

      • suziq

        I understand about blaming Dems/Obama, but how are they going to say they fixed it but call it Obamacare? We aren’t supposed to notice?

        • Liberal Fascist Ron

          They’ll change the name once they get something people aren’t complaining about. And then say THAT was the plan they had in mind the whole time.

          • suziq

            Yes, I can see how they would think that would work. And their true believers will fall for it. Until it fails, like it will, then somehow it will still be Obama’s fault. Or Hillary’s or somebody who is not (R-revolting)

  • freakishlypersistent

    Richest country in the free world, stuffed to the brim with ignorant, selfish asshloes who squeal about paying a dime in taxes. And, it’s really about anyone, and I mean anyone, who is darker than Jason there, getting ANY benefit from the Government.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • Msgr_MΩment

    Have a pony and relax, bro.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm2C_pnaz-4

  • TJ Barke

    How about instead, the wealthy sacrifice and pay a LOT more taxes on the money they couldn’t spend in hundred generations (sourced by stealing their employees’ labor)that just sits in offshore bank accounts so that our country can actually have nice things?

    • Msgr_MΩment

      Because they own congresscritters and therefore do not need to?

      • TJ Barke

        Can’t we just pitchfork them all to death votes?

    • Longstreet63

      But how will they keep score?

      • TJ Barke

        By still having more money than they could ever spend in their lifetime.

    • suziq

      I think that is very nice that you would even think that would be a possibility. I gave up a long time ago.

  • TundraGrifter

    WASHINGTON — The Republican plan to replace Obamacare includes a tax break for insurance company executives making over $500,000 per year.

    Companies can generally deduct employee salaries as a business expense but in 2013 the Affordable Care Act capped the deductions on health insurance executive salaries at $500,000.

    The average compensation for top health insurance executives is in the millions. In 2014 the left-leaning Institute for Policy Studies found that this cap generated $72 million in additional tax revenue.

    But that cap is being eliminated in the new American Healthcare Act unveiled Monday by Republicans. That means the more health insurance companies pay their executives the less they will pay in taxes.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/the-republican-healthcare-plan-includes-tax-break-for-insura?utm_term=.kvw1xJj3M#.ap5YvqzXp

    Managing doctors and researchers might be more lucrative than overseeing bankers or computer programmers.

    Among the 200 top-paid U.S. executives at public companies, those in health care and pharmaceutical businesses were awarded average pay packages of $37 million in their most recent fiscal year, the most of any sector, according to the Bloomberg Pay Index, which ranks executives based on awarded compensation. Information-technology managers were No. 2 at $35.3 million.

    The best-paid executive officers in financial services were awarded $33.8 million on average, about 8.6 percent below their colleagues in health care, according to the index. Awarded compensation includes salary, bonuses, perks, change in the value of pensions and equity awards valued at each company’s fiscal year-end stock price.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-06/the-highest-paid-u-s-executives-supervise-doctors-not-bankers

    1. Leonard S. Schleifer, Regeneron Pharmaceuticals (Tarrytown, N.Y.) — $47.46 million
    2. Jeffrey M. Leiden, Vertex Pharmaceuticals (Boston) — $28.09 million
    3. Larry J. Merlo, CVS Health (Woonsocket, R.I.) — $22.86 million
    4. Robert J. Hugin, Celgene (Summit, N.J.) — $22.47 million
    5. Alex Gorsky, Johnson & Johnson (New Brunswick, N.J.) — $21.13 million

    6. Michael F. Neidorff, Centene (St. Louis) — $20.76 million
    7. Alan B. Miller, Universal Health Services (King of Prussia, Pa.) — $20.43 million
    8. Kenneth C. Frazier, Merck & Co. (Kenilworth, N.J.) — $19.89 million
    9. Miles D. White, Abbott Laboratories (Chicago) — $19.41 million
    10. John C. Martin, Gilead Sciences (Foster City, Calif.) — $18.76

    11. Richard A. Gonzalez, AbbVie (North Chicago, Ill.) — $18.53 million
    12. Heather Bresch, Mylan (Canonsburg, Pa.) — $18.16 million
    13. David M. Cordani, Cigna (Bloomfield, Conn.) — $17.31 million
    14. Mark T. Bertolini, Aetna (Hartford, Conn.) — $17.26
    15. George A. Scangos, Biogen (Cambridge, Mass.) — $16.87 million

    16. Robert L. Parkinson, Baxter International (Deerfield, Ill.) — $16.65 million
    17. John C. Lechleiter, Eli Lilly & Co. (Indianapolis) — $16.56 million
    18. Marc N. Casper, Thermo Fisher Scientific (Waltham, Mass.) — $16.31 million
    19. Robert A. Bradway, Amgen (Thousand Oaks, Calif.) — $16.09 million
    20. George Paz, Express Scripts Holding (St. Louis) — $14.84 million

    http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/compensation-issues/20-highest-paid-healthcare-ceos-in-2015.html

    • Villago Delenda Est

      20 parasites who should be dealt with.

      • TundraGrifter

        String up the last king with the guts of the last priest.

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      Today I’ll be going to the store to buy milk. I didn’t buy it yesterday because I had already maxed out my food budget for Sunday and Monday combined.
      $47.46 million. Yeah.

    • TJ Barke

      Must resist urge to go on defenestration spree…

  • Latverian Diplomat

    Maybe we can compromise here?

    The rich folks can have their tax cuts, and the rest of us will harvest their organs. It’s a high tech “Eat the Rich” approach.

    Umm, with votes.

    • Longstreet63

      As long as we can harvest at need rather than waiting for them to become available.
      With votes. Sharp, hungry votes.

    • IHaveThoughts

      Like a Purge, with votes?

      • Latverian Diplomat

        More like the “Look Who’s Purging Now” episode of Rick and Morty

        Spoiler:Having figured out that one planet’s purge is a ploy by the wealthy to pit the poor against each other, Rick and a native of the planet team up to slaughter the bastards.

  • Jenny

    Plus side, now that we don’t have our Obama Iphones we can’t record the police shooting us! But all that sweet sweet 1k dollar a month, high deductible health insurance will kick in!

    Except for the clause the insurance company threw in there about how you’re not covered If you get hurt while “commiting” a crime…the crime of being minority and poor!

  • Nounverb911
  • anon_the_great

    But I ALREADY have a free Obama phone Chaffetz you moran

  • Ricky Gay

    Jason Chaffetz, GOP. (Grinning Oily Piglet)

    • wide_stance_hubby

      I am always at a loss deciding which garden implement he should be nasally occupied by. (Votes as needed.)

      • Ricky Gay

        AOT,K!

        • wide_stance_hubby

          Of course! I think too small!

      • HogeyeGrex

        Garden Weasel, obvs.

        • wide_stance_hubby

          Google image a ‘homi’. You’re welcome.

  • pgjack

    Conservatives, always looking out for us. But in this case they are not pro business except for the healthcare businesses. Since businesses are making record profits and unemployment is low maybe they could be a little more pro people? Gotta love the smirk Ryan flashes every time he thinks about the common folk.

    • Nounverb911

      So when is he going to pay Social Security back for paying for his college education?

      • Sardonicuss

        The irony of a guy who has been on the govt. tab his entire life, being the biggest advocate for stomping on the poor…makes me wish I believed in hell.

        • Nounverb911

          Actually multiple generations, his grandfather started a road construction company and made money off the WPA.

          • Sardonicuss

            ……but…but he worked at McDonalds one summer!!

        • Carpe Vagenda

          He also spent ten years with the happy pyramid scheme at Nu Skin.

      • Carpe Vagenda

        Or the taxpayers of the east coast for financing the infrastructure of his state?

  • exinkwretch

    You’ve been working too hard, Jason. Go skiing at Alta. Naked. When the wind chill is well below zero.

    • therblig

      and take the Sonny Bono black diamond trail

  • Bill D. Burger

    OK…a moment of cuteness to interrupt the high-blood-pressure-inducing rage.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7abb96385fbd52510cf143b3784119357fe1745f571fc33908f00ba41c09710.gif

    OK…back to it!

  • Cost of iPhone7 = 799.00

    My cost of my employer provided health care for a family of four per year: $3,800

    Cost my employer covered: $12,400.

    Cost of Jason Chaffetz to go fuck himself with a splintery wooden dildo: $0.

    • Nounverb911

      Priceless!

    • anon_the_great

      Not true. Chaffetz’s posh Federal health care plan will pay to have those splinters removed. Sadly, de-barking is outside his network.

  • therblig

    Now the truth:

    If you could only throw a ball
    You’d have a hotter wife
    Lots and lots of money
    And a way better life
    And a way better life
    Go Sports!

    • PubOption

      But most of the athletes getting football scholarships are blah (might not be the case at BYU).

  • Mel

    In the Congress thing’s defense, the people he is talking about are already pretty good at making tough choices (meat for dinner a couple nights a week, or peanut butter sandwiches so I can afford to pay rent on time? Replace that grinding brake on my car in the interest of safety, or buy the warfarin that literally allows me to live?). So, yeah, they will be fine. Nevermind that literally no one I have ever met has said anything resembling “I reeeeeeaaallly need to see the doctor soon, but…The new iPhone just came out, so,wow, decisions!”

    • Jenny

      I see you haven’t met my Paul Ryan loving sister yet…

      • Mel

        I can’t even with Paul Ryan. Mr “I have a MORAL OBLIGATION to repeal the ACA.” I have a MORAL OBLIGATION to make sure millions of people can’t care for themselves. Cause Jesus. Or something. Which is weird, cause I’ve read the Bible, and never came across anything remotely resembling that. But I’m just a person with an advanced degree that is basically in “how to read hard books” and a former adult Sunday school teacher, so what do I know? Maybe my ovaries cancel out my ability to understand words.

  • Jenny

    Hey guys, people are angry, don’t want us to touch healthcare, and would like us to do our jobs with the common person in mind.

    I know! Let’s take away their bargain basement healthcare and throw money at the elites again!! We will be greeted as liberators!!! – GOP

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Well, yeah, so instead of paying the rent, we’ll choose to pay health insurance and then because we’re exposed to the elements, we’ll need it!

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      ‘I’m sorry. Your homelessness is a pre-existing condition, so we won’t be covering your exposure.’

      • Reddishrabbit

        “I’m sorry, but the health plan tax credit requires a permanent address and box under freeway does not count”

  • elviouslyqueer

    I truly despise this smarmy motherfucker with the heat of a million supernovas. Or one good dumpster fire. Of votes.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Lion cat thinks you need a moment of cuteness to relax and lower your blood pressure.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/38cee85e1cb9a2419c02bc998e29c53ff232813e3290080381289e78ccec0213.gif

    Okey dokey then….Back to it!

    • Martini Ambassador

      It’s the cirrrrrcle of liiiiiife

    • Sardonicuss

      Giraffes: Cats don’t know they’re not tuna!

    • Asterix

      It’s not working.

      Daisy cutter dropped on Congress would help.

  • Martini Ambassador

    The new health care options might not be so affordable, but the condescending insults are free! Yay?

  • Liberal Fascist Ron

    A football scholarship? As what, the ball?

  • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

    Maybe the well provided for poors can hawk that microwave if little Timmy needs a doctor. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b593208233e0da44b6805512f0c08e414cfa7026fa3fac66577e76b24886d5ef.png

    • Liberal Fascist Ron

      Not a great idea. So many of them will need to that it will drive the market value WAAY down.

    • JohnBull

      Why can’t poor people just eat string cheese and water? Don’t need a fancy microwave for any of that.

      • The Rain in Spain’s Therapist

        “Eat your food cold like a real ‘Murican!”

    • TJ Barke

      They know microwaves are not actually very expensive, right?

      • Biff52

        My current one was $40.

  • Bill D. Burger

    Very good read.
    (excerpt)

    [Trumpcare Is the Culmination of All the GOP’s Health-Care Lies
    By Jonathan Chait

    Republicans have found themselves frantically scrawling out a hopelessly inadequate solution in order to meet a self-imposed deadline driven by their overarching desire to cut taxes for the rich. “Expanding subsidies for high earners, and cutting health coverage off from the working poor: it sounds like a left-wing caricature of mustache-twirling, top-hatted Republican fat cats,” writes the Republican health-care adviser Avik Roy. The caricature is true.]

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/trumpcare-the-culmination-of-all-the-gops-health-care-lies.html

  • His stupid face makes me thing of spiders crawling on a sheep’s ass.

  • Fartknocker

    So Jason are you going to drop the plan administered by the Feds and sign up for vouchers because you’re such a fucking great American? Hey shithead, I’m also paying for your I-Phone you pandering goat fuck (A term I normally reserve for Rick Perry).

  • TheGrandWazoo2

    Here’s my wishful thinking to get single payer. Since the individual mandate is history, everybody just drop their coverage. The insurance companies will go broke in a few months without the cash flow, and the hospitals and doctors will go broke because they’re not getting any money from the insurance companies. Now fix that fuckers!

    • yyyaz

      There aren’t enough bankruptcy lawyers to handle that workload.

    • Yellow_Dog_Dem

      I’m beginning to think that this is what we are going to have to do.

  • anon_the_great

    The very evil part of this steaming pile of shit on a paper plate is the premium hike for missing a payment. This penalizing the poor for a missed payment is very popular among assholes.

    • Longstreet63

      Oh, don’t worry. The victims will probably be charged for the extra paperwork in assessing their fine, so no insurance executives will suffer…

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Priorities!

    • Roadstergal

      It’s great. You miss a payment, and you get a rate hike in addition to the fee for being overdrawn! That’s how to bootstrap your way out of poverty.

  • idiotboy

    I would never hire anyone who did not have a cell phone. I would never get a job if I did not have a cellphone.
    OT younger son is graduating from a certain college that is all over the NYT this morning, just as he is spreading his resume around the East Coast.
    We really need him to get a job and now he may be slammin nails with his father come Spring.
    I am going to hide today and talk to the cat or the walls or just sit in the cab of the truck and scream.

    • Biff52

      The first jerb I had that required me to buy a cell phone was in 1994. They also required me to buy my own CB radio. The next year I got a union gig that actually provided me with the tools required to do the damned job. They also provided me with health insurance. What a concept!

  • JohnBull

    Strange. Poor people in other countries, like a few dozen of them, DON’T have to make those kinds of choices.

    • SmokinGood

      It’s so inscrutable. I mean, here in not-exactly socialist England, the NHS is free, mobile service is less than 20% of what it was in Murica, AND, I pay a lower effective income tax rate.

      • mancityRed6

        and you don’t have to file tax returns, or at least I didn’t.

        • SmokinGood

          Only for the IRS.

    • Ms.Moon

      I read Island People: The Caribbean and the World, Cuba, tiny, cut off from the rest of the world by the United States, Cuba has no sidewalks, but you know what they have free health care. In Cuba the children get free schooling, and everyone has free health care. In the West Indies Fidel was called Uncle Fidel because he helped alot of people when they needed it and sent doctors when needed in times of disaster.

  • OTB

    He’s right. That is if he means people will have to stop buying 4-5 iPhones every month, which is what everybody has been doing until now, except those blahs with their 20 free Obamaphones.

  • IHaveThoughts

    This shifty-eyed fuck. Just ONCE I would love for a talking head to say “hey Shifty Eyes, you’re on government healthcare, right? How much you pay for that? If it’s good enough for you, why isn’t it good enough for us?” Jason Chaffetz is such a lying, weasely little fuck.

    • Niblet58

      The way I take it his EMPLOYER sponsored health care is going to be taxable as income… right?

  • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • Inner Venom

    Am I against consumerism? Sure. But does that mean I think the party of entitled, rich white guys have the right to tell everyone else that they have to choose between having an iPhone and basic access to healthcare? Heck no.

  • Pierre_de_Fermat

    Estimated cost of health care for a family of 4: $18,000 — but hey, maybe its less! And we need tax cuts for billionaires!

    • Roadstergal

      I guess I’ll just have to stop buying those $18,000 iPhones annually.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    It’s always someone else what needs to give up one thing for another, while we have no choice but to continue to subsidize this bastard child of stupid and ugly.

  • azeyote

    now there’s a good howdoyafuckindo to them thar rust belt and coal country folks who drank the Kool-Aid

  • SmokinGood

    God. The lack of respect these fuckers have for the intelligence of America is just mind boggling. “If you want healthcare then you should not be having an essential item that any fool can obtain for far less than the cost of a single x-ray.”

    • Niblet58

      They have the exact amount of respect that American’s who voted for Trump deserve… NONE. The rest of us do not matter sine the GOP does not represent us any way.

    • mancityRed6

      but yet, they keep getting elected.

  • Villago Delenda Est

    Jason loves some media time. This is why he goes on CNN, Faux, whatever, and says very stupid things.

    • Don’t the stupid things come out whenever he opens his mouth?

    • mancityRed6

      I hope those couches are treated.
      That oily sheen he leaves behind is not coming out without a fight.

  • Persistent Demme

    Is there somewhere to find an easy to understand breakdown of ACA and the GOP “plan?”

  • ariel_gee_398

    I would like to propose an originalist interpretation of Congressional salaries. Wikipedia tells me that Reps got $6 per diem in 1789, and that sounds like a fine rate to me. Then Chaffetz can decide for himself whether to get health care for himself and his family or a shiny new iPhone on which to post to instagram about investigating Hillary for all of eternity.

    • mailman27

      That would still be more than the princely sum of $4.50 that the takers on “food stamps” get. Per diem.

      • ariel_gee_398

        I would be absolutely fine knocking back the Congressional salary and/or providing it only for days they were actually working, not running for reelection or away from constituents. That should even things out.

  • Inner Venom

    What about people like me who don’t use iPhones (proud crappy flip phone user here guys) and still probably won’t be able to afford healthcare if Trump gets his way?

  • rocktonsam

    this must be how his wife feels after sex with him or something

    • wide_stance_hubby

      Sweaty humping swine libel!

  • Nounverb911
  • Lefty Frizzell

    If you still vote for this fuck next time round you deserve to have your healthcare taken away.

    • mancityRed6

      with extreme prejudice

  • Poorly Behaved Pérsistanista

    My crap-ass insurance that I am forced to be grateful that I have at all costs over $900 a month. I could be buying a new iPhone every single month, why didn’t I think of that before? Thanks Chaffetz for putting that in perspective for me.

  • Zonath

    Why is it the wet dream of every Republican to make The Poors live a lifestyle straight out of the Great Depression? iPhone? Microwaves? Adequate housing? Healthcare? SEAFOOD? It’s like dicksniffers like Chaffetz won’t be happy until the kids of The Poors are riddled with malnutrition and easily-preventable diseases.

    Oh, and IF ONLY the price increases The Poors would see under the Republican “plan” were only as expensive as a goddamn iPhone.

    • Thiazin Red

      I’m pretty sure they would take it back to work houses and orphan trains if they could.

      • Zonath

        I guess they could just repurpose the FEMA camps for that.

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      And yet they also want to use them as cannon fodder for the Next Great Mideast Adventure ™, and if they knew anything at all about history one of the biggest problems facing the U.S. military in WWII was soldiers being in poor physical condition due to malnutrition during the Depression.

  • Hanaka

    At least he’s taking care of those in need…of larger tax breaks so they can go buy a new boat.

  • Jgb979

    I walked into a Verizon store and walked out with a brand new IPhone 7 with about 40 dollars paid of upfront costs. Granted my plan is 65 per month, but I don’t have a home phone

    When I was forced to purchase individual insurance during my 2 years or so between school and full-time employment (recovering from testicular cancer treatment) it was 450 per month with a $2000 deductible.

    I’ll gladly take insurance that costs the price of an iPhone.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      That’s funny because Chaffetz is able to buy healthcare much, much cheaper than that, and he can afford the full priced unlocked phone in case he wants to use a prepaid SIM card while traveling.

    • A relative bargain.

      Mine’s $1000/month on the ACA, was $1300/month prior to the ACA.

      Obviously I’m in state that did not accept the medicaid expansion.

      #medicareforall

      • Jgb979

        Granted I was 26 at the time and (aside from the history of testicular cancer 😇) relatively healthy.

        But yeah, I’m fortunate I had parents who could help with the expenses, continuous coverage, and an eventual job that cut the cost of that considerably. There are many way worse off than I was who will be destitute with trumpcare.

        • Glad to hear you’re getting along post treatments. I’m a “survivor” myself and had to come to grips many years ago that I will have to work just to pay for healthcare…. not much left each month after the insurance in paid.

  • ltmcdies

    Is this iphone equivalent price yearly? Monthly? Pulled out of his ass?

  • Counter Sniper

    This is just a 21st century reboot of Reagan’s welfare queen schtick.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Lefty Frizzell

    It costs about $650 for an i-phone, and healthcare costs around that every two months.

    So fuck off Chaffetz. Just fuck off. What a self righteous little shit.

    • SmokinGood

      That’s the price Rich-Ass People pay. Actual not-rich people buy the model from 3 years ago. Used. For way less than that.

      • Lefty Frizzell

        Wouldn’t bank on it staying like that, since subsidies are being repealed or tinkered with.

        • HogeyeGrex

          I think he meant the iphone.

          Also, I think I just read that the average family health insurance cost is ~$18k a year. That’s a lot of phones even if you never get sick.

          • Lefty Frizzell

            Yeah, just caught up…

    • JohnBull

      Well, health care for HIM probably costs that much for a year. And he makes a ton more than we do. Because Jesus.

  • Jonny On Maui

    7:26 in the am and my homicide level is already red-lining. Thanks Wonkette! I’m primed for dealing with the cable company today.

  • Oblios_Cap

    If we stop owning things, won’t the economy go into the shitter? I thought Capitalism was all about buying shit that you don’t want or need.

  • wide_stance_hubby

    His local Apple store must really hate him if they’re charging him tens of thousands of dollars for a damn phone.

    • Vincent Ricola

      Can’t say I blame them.

  • TakingAmes

    I’m perplexed by the Faux Gnus quotes above. Firstly, they refer to the “plan” as a “new Obamacare bill.” Then they say shoes are expensive. Are they trolling me, or are they trolling Chaffetz (R-Dicksnot)?

    • Thaumaturgist

      So. Goppers aren’t going to get rid of Obamacare after all. Good to know. Hope the GOP base gets the message.

    • mancityRed6

      the shoes she’s talking about would probably get someone else a couple months rent or a decent used car.
      the shoes her [redacted] viewers are thinking of are the $20 pair from wally world.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Are they runnin’ out of Mexicans already?

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141722538

    • Oblios_Cap

      There go the slaughterhouse employees.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      This whole thing is about getting rid of anyone who is too brown on the color chart. Eventually they will target everyone Bannon thinks is a mud person.

      • MynameisBlarney

        And then the liberals, intellectuals, free thinkers, etc…

        We’ve all seen this movie before.

        • Notreelyhelping

          Last Year at Marienbad?

      • SaltyPaw

        I would not diminish this by playing the race card because these changes are going to hurt people across all ethnic groups in a major way. Basically if you are an average working stiff, lower income, middle income, elderly, etc. it is going to hurt big time. The GOP and Trump are even hurting the very base that got them elected. This is an opportunity to draw these people over to our side. Many are already having buyer’s remorse and this will infuriate many. Plus I read something about their plan having a mandate but that the penalty money would go to the insurance industry to line their pockets instead of going towards the individual’s health care.

  • ltmcdies

    The US drops to seventh in global rankings….and that was before GOP released their “improvement” to America’s health

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/03/07/in-a-global-ranking-of-best-countries-the-united-states-drops-to-no-7/?utm_term=.699e8cc2ee5e

  • Good_Gawd_Yall

    An open letter to all Congressional Dicksnots who vote for this bill:
    WE WILL VOTE YOUR ASSES OFF THE ISLAND. That is all.

  • ltmcdies

    Conservatives/Republicans just can’t help coming off all Marie Antoinette when it comes to funding poor people, can they

    • “Let them eat cake. But not the ones they like.”

      • mancityRed6

        “Cake? You can afford cake?”

  • mardam422

    Without that phone how am I gonna call the ambulance to take me to the emergency room when I have a heart attack because Trumpcare didn’t pay for my stress test/EKG/blood thinners/yearly trip to the doctor?

    • mancityRed6

      how are you gonna pay for that ambulance?

      • TJ Barke

        Sexual favors?

        • mancityRed6

          you know, I’m probably worth a little bit on the open market, but I really don’t think I’m worth that much.

          • wide_stance_hubby

            I get my best rates in the niche/fetish market.

        • BrianW

          And for that, you don’t even have to be able to consent. Win win!

          • Undocumented Skwerl!

            What does “consent” mean?

          • BrianW

            It’s an ancient, outmoded concept. I’m an old, after all.

    • Brendan_M

      Get an Obamaphone before they cut that program.

    • Undocumented Skwerl!
    • Villago Delenda Est

      Penny wise, huge tax cuts for greedheads foolish. That’s your GOP.

    • wide_stance_hubby

      BootstrapCare and Personal Responsibility are a good start.

      • snark-lurker

        your snarkin us, mirite?

        • wide_stance_hubby

          Totes.

      • mancityRed6

        it’s either the iphone or the special edition bootstraps*

        *results not guaranteed

  • Brendan_M

    Do Poors really need to eat, like, everyday? Time to make some sacrifices and exercise personal choice and self-reliance, you parasites!

    • Undocumented Skwerl!

      Can they use their foodstamps to buy insurance? If so we can cut that too!

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Eat food or be healthy, we all have to make choices.

  • Vincent Ricola

    Jason Chaffetz is the worst and I hate his face.

  • Hutch
  • Manhattan123

    This smarmy little worm has one of the most punchable faces in Washington. But at least he clearly demonstrates the contempt, indifference and outright disdain the modern Republican party has for the poor.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    OT: The Hero Who Blew the Whistle on Trump

    https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/839158349321105408

    • Thiazin Red

      So Michael Sheen plays him in the eventual movie?

      • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

        Steele, Christopher Steele. I’ll have a vodka martini, shaken not stirred.

        • boyblue122

          I wonder if thats even a real name and not some 007 spy name given to him

    • mancityRed6

      he needs to go hang out with Salman Rushdie for a few years.

    • Resistance Fighter Astraea
  • Cousin Itt de La Résistance

    “You know what, Americans have choices.”

    So did Sophie.

  • Mr. Blobfish

    Needz moar ooga booga

  • Inner Venom

    Like most white wingers, he fails to see the issue and his choice of words prove it. He views healthcare as a luxury and not a human right.

  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

    Jason Chaffetz: What if Forest Gump was a Congressional Committee Chair and an asshole?

    • Vincent Ricola

      And refused to share his chocolates with anyone that sat down next to him on the bench, instead deciding to lecture them on not being rich enough to afford a car.

    • boyblue122

      I hate Hill-ah-ree more than all the other girls

  • Hutch

    My friend’s comment on Twitter was the best: “If you want to keep your iPhone, die.”

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Thaumaturgist

    The problem isn’t the cost of the phone; the problem is the cost of the data.

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    COOoooOL! A Health Savings Account! I sure hope I can get that through my financial planner, who, thanks to elimination of those “burdensome regulations,” no longer has to give me advice that is actually in my fiduciary interests! “Sure! I recommend you invest in these Nigerian Lottery Tickets!”

    THANKS REPUBLICANS, I CAN’T WAIT TO GET ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF FUCKED OUT OF MY MONEYZ!!

    • Jenny

      I had this argument with the boyfriend because he touts his hsa and loves it so much, totally the best. Hey, boyfriend you make a ton of money. Here take my shitty salary and try this one weird hsa trick now. Oh strange it doesn’t work so well and my tax burden isn’t enough to compensate! Well would you look at that! Math!

      On the plus side, he now realizes that maybe HSA won’t work for ordinary people and probably makes more sense financially for everyone to single payer. Is our rich people learning? Sometimes!

  • theblackdog

    My healthcare costs 3.69 iPhones per year, and that’s before the co-pays and deductible.

    • snark-lurker

      keep using the same one long enough you get a free upgrade

      • theblackdog

        Oooh, you mean the upgrade where my health care will cost 5 iPhones per year when they let insurance do whatever the hell they want?

  • Resistance Fighter Callyson

    You know what, Americans have choices. And they’ve got to make a choice. And so maybe, rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.

    Having to spend more of their incomes on health care will enable Americans to stimulate the economy and create jobs because…?

    Who am I kidding, this is Chaffetz we’re talking about here…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/661a55173ab193ca2c8f080a4e15d34a0edd4d2202c43ab74c342bf091e3ef28.jpg

    • TJ Barke

      Consumer choice isn’t fucking freedom, goddammit!

  • boyblue122

    OT – more ICE related news

    https://twitter.com/benjaminpenn/status/839148316407521280

    “Sources say DOL’s Wage & Hour Division is hearing pattern of workers owed wages but who are refusing to confirm address, suspicious of ICE”

    • snark-lurker

      and well they should be

  • MynameisBlarney
  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    Spend less on consumer goods. That’ll be a boon to the economy.

    • Yr. Gma

      It’s almost as if they don’t think things through.

  • tapp_my_wire,please

    Why does Chaffetz need a iPhone when he is tone deaf?

  • An Outhouse for the Resistance

    Jason, how much do you spend on health care? Nothing? Its free from the taxpayers? That’s nice.

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg

    Working towards the fuhrer as Ian Kershaw once called it.

    on a side note: Robyn, when can we meet you in the Netherlands for a nice tour of Amsterdam and the Hague?

  • Prof. T. Green Bastard

    That iPhone bullshit quote reminds me of when W suggested Americans could take that stimulus check they so gallantly procured for us & go buy a tank of gas. It was not well-taken advice as I recall..

    • Suttree

      We were supposed to go shopping after 9/11 also too.

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        Oh, right! We had to do all sorts of crap or The Terrorists Won.

    • DahBoner

      And remember, that stimulus check was DEDUCTED off the next year’s taxes, so it was only a small loan. 😉

      • Prof. T. Green Bastard

        Here, I’ve got a recruiting slogan for em:‘Too sleazy for used car sales? Join the GOP!’

  • Angela Ruzzo

    I don’t own an iPhone. I don’t own a cell phone. I don’t even have cable. I spend my disposable SSDI income on food, and the $30 left over I spend on high speed internet so that I can Not Comment on Wonkette. I guess what Mr. Chaffetz wants me to do is stop eating and die and save the government a lot of money.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      You should just give it directly to Chaffetz. Quicker that way.

    • Yr. Gma

      Yep. That’s the plan.

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      According to those goat fucking Republicans, you shouldn’t have any quality to your life.

  • Crank Tango

    Hopefully they at least include a subsidy for bootstraps.

    • Shoto

      I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to pull yourself up by a booster pair of bootstraps to get to the primary pair of bootstraps.

      • Crank Tango

        What worries me is none of my boots have straps on them. I guess I should stop eating and start strapping.

    • Suttree

      I think you are supposed to shank your neighbor if you don’t have any.

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Your parents were supposed to give you a wee teeny tiny million dollar bootstrap fund. Perhaps they forgot to tell you about it?

  • Bitter Scribe

    I have an Android phone, so maybe some of the people with iPhones can tell me: Do you have to buy a new one every month, maybe because you can’t recharge the battery or something? Because the difference between the subsidized insurance I now have and how much a “free market” plan would cost me comes out to about the cost of an iPhone. PER MONTH.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      You don’t have to buy a new one every month, but for some reason, black people do*. I think that’s what Chaffetz is getting at.

      *Not an actual thing that happens.

    • Zyxomma

      I have an iPhone 4, the model before the introduction of Siri. I’m careful not to store too much music or too many photos on it. The ex is still paying my monthly bill. He’s bitched about it, but that’s tough — when we worked together, he underpaid me year after year after year. Yes, the ex is a creep.

  • AnnieGetYerFun

    iPhone is simply the new Cadillac, in terms of GOP dog-whistles.

  • Crank Tango

    Does this mean that Apple is going to sunset my Obamaphone™?

  • Gosala

    Civilization is not built on self reliance. It is built on self reliance plus the common good. Thank you, TR

    • timpundit

      Also know as a village.

    • Villago Delenda Est

      North Korea’s economic/political philosopy is called “Juche”. Which means “self-reliance”.

      Look how well they’re doing!

      • georgiaburning

        Most of the people are borderline starving and the economy survives selling cheap goods and raw materials. But they are brainwashed by the economic/religious teachings into supporting the small ruling class that keeps them in poverty, and spends an insane amount on the military. Sure sounds like the Republican ideal

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    It’s funny… everyone I know works full time, plus, and can still barely make it. They live each day knowing one small thing-especially an illness-could destroy everything they worked for in a frighteningly short period of time. We work and we’re still poor. I am so sick and fucking tired of these jackasses painting poor people as lazy and self-indulgent. I’m sick and fucking tired of so many poor people blaming other poor people because they’re too ignorant to see it’s Jason Chaffetz, rich white man, picking their pocket, not that black guy working and scrimping just like they are. As many people have pointed out before me, poverty isn’t an accident or a character flaw.

    • Preach, sista.

    • Proud Liberal

      Standing ovation. Well said!

    • Persistent Tennessee Rain

      All you have to do is work a few more full times jobs. Easy peasy. Problem solved.

    • SnarkON

      I am actually sort of rich, at least by current standards. Worked full time my entire life for a corporation with a 401K program. Mr. SnarkON did same. We invested reasonably well, bought a small home that has increased in value and were careful to save a lot and live very frugally (one 18-year-old car, public schools, etc.). And yet…I still feel broke all the fucking time. I also still feel like one catastrophic illness plus the repeal of ACA and we’ll be living in a cardboard box.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        Exactly. And think about the time before you two were doing ok. What if something had happened then? As long as we refuse to take care of our own, much of this is sheer luck, and that’s no way to live. It takes one thing to wipe it all away.

      • Eileen Besse

        Same here, ditto….

    • HogeyeGrex

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2aqvKY6zLc

      I guess there’s something about the coal jobs Trump wants to bring back.

      • Ms.MLG on Maui

        My Dad used to sing that song a lot.

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    Can someone do the beancounting math about how much it will cost me if I throw twelve months of iPhones at Chaffetz’ face at the next town hall meeting?

    We should all be aware of our choices, you know.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I don’t have to do any counting to tell you that it would be worth every penny.

    • timpundit

      It’s a lot cheaper and more effective to throw rotary phones. Friendly tip.

      • Villago Delenda Est

        Big, heavy rotary desk phones with metal bases.

        • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

          Consider the new owPhone! Now with 2.3 times more heft! For those with really recalcitrant Congressmen!

          • SnarkON

            Is there a model with spikes?

        • timpundit

          Hell, entire phone booths, might as well go for the gold ring.

        • HogeyeGrex

          Pay phones. Plenty of them in the scrapyards, I’m sure.

          https://www.payphone.com/images/T/Elcotel-Series5-01.jpg

      • Kiri the Paid Protestor

        With the right phone, it would take only one.

        http://antiquehelper.rfcsystems.com/Full/312/91312.jpg

      • SaltyPaw

        I have one in the attic that I am willing to donate for the cause. Only ask that the person has demonstrated the ability to throw a good fastball right on target to the face. Wouldn’t want that perfectly good rotary phone to go to waste. LOL

    • mancityRed6

      maybe duct tape it to a brick of votes?

  • JackLinks

    New GOP Health Plan Devotes Six of 60+ Pages to Dealing With Lottery Winners’ Coverage

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/06/gop_health_plan_preoccupied_with_lottery_winners_on_medicaid.html

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Makes sense considering that’s the only way most folks can afford coverage.

  • DahBoner

    Can you believe how unbelievably rich Rich people are getting now, thanks to Trump?

    Unbelievable!
    http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/smurfsfanon/images/8/85/I%27m_Rich.gif/revision/latest/thumbnail-down/width/732/height/549?cb=20130430022409

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Bill D. Burger

    At this point, Chaffetz is nothing more than a GOP troll. The depraved and loathsome SOB has no integrity, no honor, no conscience. He lies with ease and his loyalty is totally to party and himself; he doesn’t give a fuck about this republic.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c65537ec46557804969299a5113741fdb40d906d8fbd759b5dbd1a4647253178.png

    • ladyblug

      You just described the whole gop!

  • MynameisBlarney
  • Jeffery Campbell

    “I believe in self-reliance.” Why is no one at CNN able to do what Robyn has done in one paragraph – blast that stupid git in the face with his own non-demonstrated ability to self-rely? It’s available on Wikipedia for fuck’s sake.

    This too: Just substitute “food” for “iPhone” and you have the real purpose for Republicanism – kick the poors and keep kicking them.

    • HogeyeGrex

      Reminding me of my favorite wingnut hypocrisy, Kristol on meritocracy.

      I remember back in the late ’90s when Ira Katznelson, an eminent political scientist at Columbia, came to deliver a guest lecture to an economic philosophy class I was taking. It was a great lecture, made more so by the fact that the class was only about ten or twelve students and we got got ask all kinds of questions and got a lot of great, provocative answers. Anyhow, Prof. Katznelson described a lunch he had with Irving Kristol back either during the first Bush administration. The talk turned to William Kristol, then Dan Quayle’s chief of staff, and how he got his start in politics. Irving recalled how he talked to his friend Harvey Mansfield at Harvard, who secured William a place there as both an undergrad and graduate student; how he talked to Pat Moynihan, then Nixon’s domestic policy adviser, and got William an internship at The White House; how he talked to friends at the RNC and secured a job for William after he got his Harvard Ph.D.; and how he arranged with still more friends for William to teach at UPenn and the Kennedy School of Government. With that, Prof. Katznelson recalled, he then asked Irving what he thought of affirmative action. “I oppose it”, Irving replied. “It subverts meritocracy.”

  • Bill D. Burger
  • HogeyeGrex

    Speaking as someone with a ten year old motherfucking flip phone: Fuck you, Chaffetz.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      That’s the dumbest part- most of those poorz aren’t running around with iPhone 7’s, mostly they’re some sort of second, third or fourth tier android smartphone. If they are iPhones, they’re usually used/refurbished older models that you can get relatively cheaply.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Don’t you know? Why, most of these so called “poor” even have refrigerators. Luxury!

    • SnarkON

      You must have great healthcare.

      • HogeyeGrex

        Not for long.

  • Bill D. Burger
  • WotsAllThisThen

    Repeal and replace Obamaphone!

  • Me The People

    I’d like to smack him in the face with Martin Shkreli’s head. With votes.

  • badtonto

    “And so maybe, rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

    It really does take your breath away though, doesn’t it? I even did a raspy ‘ghey gasp’ on that one then near coughed up half a lung! Thanks so MUCH for that, Becca! 😣

  • Lefty Frizzell

    What would a Damascus moment look like to Chaffetz? How much suffering would he need to see? Or would each humiliating, squalid, painful death merely reinforce his view that he has been blessed more because he is more worthy?

    • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

      These Republican grifters have already experienced their Damascus moment, only in reverse: the moment at which they realized that there are billions of dollars swirling around out there in the dark money universe, theirs for the taking if only they can persuade a Charles Koch or a Dick DeVos that they have seen the reactionary light and are ideologically saved.

  • disqus_lWwzrwNaw6

    I know this plays well with Republican voters, who go into paroxysms of rage at the thought of black people buying tasty foods, fancy shoes, or consumer goods of any kind: which means, actually, that I hate Republican voters even more than I hate Jason Chaffetz, because without Republican voters, Jason Chaffetz would be just another bored trust fund brat looking for a hobby.

  • ViveLaPersistence

    Jason doesn’t even pay for his own phone. His PAC does.

  • MynameisBlarney

    Sen. Franken seems to be a bit upset about something…

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028760205

    • Villago Delenda Est

      Charles Grassley isn’t exactly covering himself in glory. Feed lot waste is more like it.

      • Zippy W Pinhead

        assume honor dead

    • TJ Barke

      We should just start calling republicans savages.

      • ladyblug

        Or ASSHOLES!

        • Rags

          or former incumbents

  • Ms.MLG on Maui

    How many Iphones will this Republican administration cost us? And are there just not enough homeless people in the streets for them to kick and spit on?

    • SaltyPaw

      The total lack of empathy is staggering, agreed.

      • MynameisBlarney

        That’s being overly generous.
        It not a lack of empathy.
        It’s hate.

  • SaltyPaw

    How about a new law that congress has to get the same bottom of the barrel health care plan that they are pushing onto the rest of us and make them buy it with the condition that they get a vasectomy in order to qualify. After all, that is exactly their attitude towards the poor and average income American. I am sick of these congressional types that are getting health coverage on the backs of taxpayers while looking down on others as if they don’t even deserve to live.

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I thought that Congress buys their healthcare on the exchange?

      • SaltyPaw

        I think they get their coverage through the “The Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) Program” which has far better options.

  • MynameisBlarney
  • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨
  • Jamoche

    Still want to know how tax credits work when you pay no taxes. In 25 years of Silicon Valley boom-and-bust, that’s happened to me three separate years. And what about when I retire?

    • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

      Oh, the poor will pay taxes once they get done getting rid of the Earned Income Tax Credit, and all those silly deductions like childcare expenses and education expenses.

      • Jamoche

        I know the poor are screwed, but what about their middle-class base who have enough to retire on?

    • SnarkON

      Ask Donald Trump. He also pays no taxes.

  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    The co-pay for my medication, per month, costs the same as I pay per month for my iPhone. Just my medication. Nothing else.
    Is there an app that allows me to send flaming bags of dog poo to Chaffetz’s doorstep?

    • DoILookAmused2u? Résistance☨

      I am currently on COBRA, and my former company is subsidizing it for a few more months. Right now, Health/Vision/Dental — 150 per month. In May, it will cost me 652/month just for medical.

      That’s for one person.

    • Ms.MLG on Maui

      And they know all this. They know people can’t afford medical care. They are theives. Thieves preaching about self-reliance when everything they have comes from the work of poor people.

      • Shanzgood

        Hey, lady. You sound kinda bolshy. I like it!

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          I’m pissed as hell!!

          • Shanzgood

            I’m too tired to be pissed today. Besides, I have to save my energy to take more pictures for baconz later! XD

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            How’s he doing? I miss him around here!

          • Shanzgood

            Job interview today! If he gets it, he can go home! He’ll hear in a couple of days.

          • Ms.MLG on Maui

            Hope we have good news about this later!!

          • Shanzgood

            You will hear a great SQUEE of happiness from the heartland of the USA!

            I think the most awful thing is how much he misses his kids right now. :(

      • HogeyeGrex

        If your theft directly results in someone’s death, doesn’t that make you a murderer as well?

        • Ms.MLG on Maui

          YES

    • AnnieGetYerFun

      I have an high deductible plan through my employer; the amount of money I have to spend on medication and doctor visits is $3,900 before insurance kicks in and starts paying for stuff. I hit my deductible last week.

  • SnarkON

    Rep. Chaffetz, you show me one insurance plan that will cost me the price of an iPhone and I will happily fork over that $700 and sign up right now.

    • srsly. I am all…he talking about a month? Cause ain’t no one buys a new phone per month

    • georgiaburning

      Oh, that is possible. But it will be a plan that only buys you a bottle of aspirin with a $500 deductible

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      Well, that’s easy! There’s one that’s even cheaper than an iPhone! Gold-plated too!

      You simply need to get elected to Congress first.

    • h4rr4r

      You buy iPhones monthly, right? This should be easy.

  • Me The People

    1 Take away people’s health insurance/force them to pay more for less

    2 People stop buying stuff because they are too busy spending all their money on trying to stay alive
    3 Economic rejuvenation!

    Joined up thinking, GOP style.

    • Wild Cat

      No, they just privatize any health care that’s public and invest in it.

  • Yr. Gma
  • Wild Cat

    Can’t he fuck around with binders of women instead of sick humans who need health care?

  • MynameisBlarney

    Life is short…
    Also, too; there’s that supervolcano to think about..

    http://img.memecdn.com/life-is-short_o_7130813.jpg

    • mancityRed6

      don’t forget giant asteroid

      • Rags

        Giant Asteroid 2020!!

  • Robbertjan Brandenburg
    • MynameisBlarney

      Sounds good to me. But I’m one of the poors you may have heard about.

      • Robbertjan Brandenburg

        Shouldn’t have bought that new i Phone.

        • MynameisBlarney

          I shouldn’t have bought that food thing.

          • Robbertjan Brandenburg

            I know right? Poor people should learn to live on air.

    • Crank Tango

      Out in the streets, they call it muuurrrrrder…

  • Jamoche

    Also too does this idiot not get that the ACA is also used by people who do pay full price for it, which is a cheaper price than they could do back when the options ran out when COBRA did? For that matter, better prices during the COBRA period too.

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      like me? I don’t get a subsidy (I might finally qualify this year for the first time, since my premium doubled), but even without it, I’m still only now back to paying what we paid for our old group plan pre ACA and that’s after 5 years of inflation and me being 5 years older

      • HogeyeGrex

        Not counting the outrageous rate of rate increases pre-ACA. What you would be paying now, hoo-boy. I seem to remember 30-50% per year was fairly “normal.”

        • Zippy W Pinhead

          31% was the average nationwide pre ACA. I love how these fuckers all ignore that. Had there been no ACA, I’d likely right now be paying double what I was then, if not more. Instead, I saved thousands of dollars the last few years and a five year older me is STIll only paying what I was then (not even counting the potential subsidy- I chose to take it at the end of the year)

      • Jamoche

        And all the self-employed people – lots of them the small business owners that Republicans make mouth noises about supporting.

        In CA, not having an income but also having a nice software company severance package put me in an odd spot – state my actual income at the moment ($0) and my only option was MediCal. Say what I made last year and get lots of things to choose from, including one $200 less than the COBRA PPO. OK, I can afford it, but suppose I was retired instead, and more worried about not running through it?

  • Crank Tango
  • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

    Meanwhile Trump’s still snookering all the folks who think he’s on their side. No plan – just “more competition” in the drug industry.
    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/839176291282731008

    • Zippy W Pinhead

      he already met with them and promised no government bargaining for medicare

  • those darn phones are expensive, so are shoes.
    OH good we are back to dog whistles!

    • Crank Tango

      People should give up their Kangols, adidas sneakers, and gold chains if they want healthcare so bad.

    • Vagenda and Pee-ara

      It’s not my fault that you have to decide between your Cadillac and your lobster tails, and getting health insurance.

      • h4rr4r

        See now these are the dog whistles I understand.

        • Vagenda and Pee-ara

          I went old school with my dog whistles.

    • WotsAllThisThen

      He missed a real opportunity to plug Ivanka’s clothing line.

      • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

        He’s holding out for the opportunity to plug Ivanka!

    • h4rr4r

      I believe you that it is, but could you explain it to me?

      I am super white, but I too have shoes.

  • WAIT WAIT WAIT…..
    We cannot help people with insurance, but we can give money to people to send their kids to private schools?
    Is there no responsibility there?

  • VoterFraudingBigRedDog

    Well there go my plans to retire at 50.

    Fuck. Back to work I guess.

    • SnarkON

      Get your lazy ass off that couch.

      • VoterFraudingBigRedDog

        Mom doesn’t let me sit on the couch. :(

    • WotsAllThisThen

      Republicans are doing everything they can to increase the “labor participation rate”

      • georgiaburning

        Those wal-mart shoppers won’t greet themselves

    • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

      There’s your first mistake, planning to live past 50.

      The Republicans are coming up with so many choices for you! So many options to best “solve” such a problem! From medical bankruptcy to fracking waste, from insane loons purchasing semi-autos to international security theater, from food safety to vehicle-assisted solutions (for protesters) it’s a great day for choice!

  • GHERKINS OF RESTIVENESS!

    So do I go to the Verizon store for my checkups now?

  • Shanzgood

    Also making PPH ineligible for Medicaid reimbursements or federal family planning funds.

    Remember how they squealed when Obama said “You can keep your doctor” and some folks couldn’t? (Never mind that pre-ACA folks had to switch all the time if their employer plan changed to one their physician didn’t take.)

  • Vagenda and Pee-ara

    This might be a silly question, but how are poor people supposed to find, and acquire, that third job if they don’t have a phone? Will prospective employers drive to their hobo trashcan fires to tell them “you’re hired!”?

    • Robbertjan Brandenburg

      Silly question. You know the answer ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Clyde Barrow

    Notice he didn’t say “stop buying guns & ammo to save your healthcare.”

    A paid NRA shill’s work is never done.

  • marxalot

    I’m getting my combination eye exam and cancer screening from Doctor Scratch, under the 515 overpass. His physician’s assistant is three raccoons in a heavily stained lab coat!

    • Sister the Resister

      Hey, those raccoons have incredible dexterity in every one of their nimble fingers!

      • Jon Sussex

        Sure but would it kill them to trim their nails once in a while?

        • Sister the Resister

          I’d be happy enough if they’d just take a scrub to ’em.

    • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

      Beware the prostate exam in the back of the van.

    • NastyBossetti

      At least they’re not possums.

  • btwbfdimho
  • georgiaburning

    Can we seriously work to primary this guy out in 2018? A Dem doesn’t have much chance in that district but a more reasonable Rep would better represent the people there and let Chaffetz move on to his lobbying career.

  • Clyde Barrow

    Joe the Plumber will now have to visit a clinic at Avenida Revolución, Tijuana. Switchblades and firecrackers are optional. ‘Murica.

    • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

      When I lived in San Diego, I went to TJ about every other weekend (I’ve seen some things). Hopefully he will go, now that the cartels own it.

      • Clyde Barrow

        I used to go quite a bit when I lived in Riverside. And I know lots of people (most staunch Republicans) who still go down their for checkups, dental procedures, and medication, because they can’t get that service in the states without a ton of money and hassle. Of course, the irony is lost on them that they’ve created this situation for themselves.

        • John Resistant Tovarich Smith

          ^THIS^

  • HogeyeGrex

    It kind of amazes me that this sounds even vaguely acceptable to any block of voters. Even idiots or idealogues. He’s just saying, “Fuck you. We’re going to make everyone’s life worse.”

    • georgiaburning

      They’re removing the “Obamacare tax”, in other words, the requirement to get coverage or pay a penalty.
      As one RWNJ told me a few years ago. “I can always go to county hospital and just not pay the bill.”

      • HogeyeGrex

        I’m sure that’s a brilliant strategy for anything requiring continuing care.

      • Shanzgood

        Guess what’s replacing that as incentive to stay covered? If you have a lapse, the insurance company can charge you 30% more.

      • Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

        Does he think bill collectors don’t exist?

      • Stulexington

        Yup, they’re trying to remove the social part of socialized medicine, because they think it actually works that way.

        • HogeyeGrex

          They’re doing a pretty good job of trying to remove the medicine part, too.

  • Shanzgood

    So if they’ve also scuppered the BC provision, I found out there’s a 3-month combination type pill pack that’s only $40. In case anyone needs to know for themselves or their partners.

    • h4rr4r

      Planned parenthood used to sell them for $10 a month. This was in the stone ages though. I bet they still have good deals on them.

      • Shanzgood

        It’s usually on a sliding scale, depending on income. And Planned Parenthood is getting defunded, so whatever the price is NOW is probably going to go even higher.

        • h4rr4r

          True! We were super duper broke.

          That reminds me to go donate before those are no longer tax deductible.

          • Shanzgood

            That reminds me. The insurance plans that cover abortion won’t be eligible for tax credits.

          • h4rr4r

            WTF?
            WTF?

            So insurance that covers medical procedures won’t be eligible for tax credits?

          • Shanzgood

            Just abortion. Probably defined as “elective” ones.

          • h4rr4r

            You keep saying medical procedure, I don’t understand.
            Medical procedures are between a patient and doctor. No one else would know what procedures were elective or not.

          • Shanzgood

            Boob jobs are a medical procedure but they’re not covered, either. Because they’re “elective” unless as part of reconstructive surgery after a mastectomy.

          • h4rr4r

            I don’t think the two are quite comparable.

            One is about enhancement of appearance the other is about reproductive rights.

            Also seems like something a doctor can fix with judicious use of coding. Just code the termination as medically needed.

          • Shanzgood

            I know. I don’t make the rules, though. I’m just pointing out what “they” consider to be an “elective” procedure. If it’s a health emergency and you need to get un-pregnant to save your life or avoid damaging a “major bodily function” then abortion is usually a covered medical procedure.

            Otherwise, you can get un-pregnant by giving birth like God intended. Or (which is more the point) you can pay for it out of pocket so everyone else can keep their pooled insurance premiums and precious snowflake tax dolllas clean of your filthy baby-murdering ways, you irresponsible whore.

          • h4rr4r

            That is why I suggested doctors code the abortion in a selective manner.

            We see this all over the medical world, your insurance won’t cover the procedure you need for your condition, but they will for another condition. Suddenly your doctor realizes he was wrong the whole time, that is really the condition you have.

          • Shanzgood

            Right, but most doctors – even OBGYNs – don’t even DO abortions. A lot of them don’t know how any more because state leges have made it extremely difficult to even get training on how to do the procedure even IF it’s medically necessary for life/health reasons.

            Guess what they usually have to do if a patient needs an abortion? They have to refer them to a clinic like PPH. And the insurance companies are going to require rafts of documentation to PROVE the claim is “valid” before they pay it, not just because they don’t like paying claims in general but because of all the state laws they’ll run afoul of if they DO pay it.

            It’s illegal in my state for a private insurance company to cover abortion even in cases of rape or incest. A pregnant person literally has to be at risk of death or severe health damage first. Insurance companies dont just let a physician get away with checking the right box on a form. That’s why there’s no rape or incest exception: because it’s too hard to prove. But the life/health one isn’t, and you can bet they require physicians to do it.

    • chortlingdingo

      Oh nice, mine was like $180 before it was covered by the ACA. Of course, I’m taking a generic one now, so I don’t know how much it would cost out of pocket.

      • Shanzgood

        Find out now. I wouldn’t put it past the drug companies to jack the prices up after it’s no longer covered.

        Not that we could do anything about it other than stock up or get IUDs before the GOP repeal kicks in. But it’s hard to stock up when insurance won’t pay for more than one month at a time. I ran into that at the end of December when I lost my insurance and couldn’t get a refill because it was “too soon” since the last one.

        Assholes.

        • chortlingdingo

          Right? I’ve had pharmacies tell me that it was too soon to refill mine also. Like, I can understand that for medications that you can OD on or something, but birth control?

          • Shanzgood

            Best I can figure is that insurance companies don’t want to pay for you to pick up a year’s worth at a time so they dole it out a month at a time hoping you lose coverage at some point along the way. That’s what happened to me so they cut me off. Fuckers.

  • Me not sure

    So, Wife not sure and I can now pay for her cancer treatments by giving them an I-Phone? Sign me up for Chaffetzcare! I’m gettin’ a Jitterbug, baby!

  • Vel Venturi

    Can’t wait for that health care for only the cost of an iPhone! What a great plan! For a few hundred dollars I will be covered for life. Wow!

    • cats530

      Yeah! I want one too!

    • Meccalopolis

      healthcare: there’s an app for that!

      • Mister Smith

        Does it work on Android?

  • Mavenmaven
    • Cliff Hendroval

      I saw that earlier and found myself wondering if there are pictures showing Cheeto Benito at, say, the convention and today. It looks to me that he’s packed on 30 pounds since the summer.

  • Courser_Resistance

    Just so you know, Wonkers, those grifting assholes relish each and every one of our cries like drinking the tears of disabled children. Their only real motto in government is, “make the little guy suffer. Crush him under your heel at every opportunity”

    • cats530

      Fantasies of austerity for the masses gives the Republican lawmakers a woody.

    • Cliff Hendroval

      He can be remarkably small-minded and provincial, but Jimmy Breslin summed up the Republican project perfectly: “The poor cannot be made to suffer enough.”

  • Proud Liberal

    The many of the bad things in the plan won’t go into effect until after the 2018 elections, then the rest of the bad things won’t go into effect until after the 2020 elections. These guys are assholes.

  • cats530

    “GOP Rep. Chaffetz: Americans may need to choose between “new iphone… they just love” and investing in health care.”

    Well, Schmendrick Chaffetz, as a taxpayer I am pretty sick and tired of investing in your free healthcare and your free iphone.

  • Mavenmaven

    Here’s how GOP self reliance works: Spend your whole life struggling to earn a living, then when you get sick and die, we come and take away everything you have so that your wife and children can learn anew how to be self reliant!

  • MamaBrown

    Well, he is just a delight! Silly poors, expecting to be shod and all.

    • bbqboy

      Shod thru the heart,
      And I’ll agree…
      He gives love a bad name

  • Prolecat

    So now they’ll kick you off Medicaid if you own a home? WTF? For many poor people the fact that they have no rent/ mortgage is one of the few things that helps them out. Now the GOP wants to shit on them by demanding they take on rent so they can get healthcare? Then if they end up on Section 8 to help with the rent the GOPers will bitch about that. Can’t win no matter what.

    • h4rr4r

      You sell the house to a child for $1, and stay in it.

      This explains it. You want the second scenario. It will be counted against the 5.4 million inheritance, but that is not an issue for most medicaid recipients.
      https://www.thebalance.com/can-i-sell-my-home-for-a-dollar-3505414

      You need to start thinking like our president.

    • Nodrama4mama

      Good luck getting on Section 8. When I lived in MA the wait list was closed because it was over a 2 year wait,

  • The rich get the mine and the poor get the shaft.

  • Mister Smith

    iPhones made America sick!

  • Eileen Besse

    But…but…”are there no workhouses”?

    • h4rr4r

      Well you see with Mr Sessions now trying to enforce Federal Cannabis laws the prisons are quite full.

      • Eileen Besse

        Ah…THAT explains it.

  • SaltyPaw

    OK republican Chaffetz walks back a little. It’s OK to have 1 phone in your cardboard box provided the local colony of poor people dumpster dives for food.Gotta make those choices.

    Can we get this creep out of office? He needs a visit from Scrooge’s ghost pronto.

  • JoeChristmas

    Doeas this mean I lose my Obamaphone?

    • If you like your Obamaphone, you get to keep it.

      Just turn in an iPhone every month, and your insurance will stay in effect.

  • Undocumented Skwerl!

    “Even Less Affordable, But We Don’t Care Act.”

  • badtonto

    I started coming back here for the snark and the silly but on a serious note; I lived in the States a couple of times. I will never forget, in the early 90s, meeting a woman who’s conundrum was either going to the local Winn-Dixie and getting the cheap staples to feed her family for the week or taking her sick kid to the doctor because lawd in heaven, she couldn’t do both. It’s these ones, the people who wake up in the middle of the night and chew on a handful of Tums, knowing full well that that’s probably not going to do the trick but dammit, getting a prescription for Nexium or Prevacid just means more money out of their pocket. I remember Republicans and right wing commentators in your country hissing and spitting and foaming at the mouth over Michael Moore’s ‘Bowling For Columbine’ left wing bias (and of COURSE he is) but one of the most poignant scenes ( for me anyways) where, after visiting a ‘slum’ in Canada, it was explained to him that even the most hardened and destitute in our society still know that at the end of the day, the state will still care for them. Having lived in both systems, it is truly astonishing what peace of mind it gives you NOT to have mulling around in your head that, “Oh gawd, if get sick, I’m fucked!” It is to America’s eternal and unenviable shame.

    • stubbornirishlass

      This is what makes me angriest about that type of tone-deaf response. Truly poor people are not making a choice between health insurance and an iPhone. They are making a choice between health insurance and food and shelter.

  • Granny Sprinkles

    Maybe the poors should stop spending all their food stamps on cruises and crab legs!

  • beavertank

    Fuck Jason Chaffetz, right in his piggy little nose.

    …also, he’s a moron for this position, but the “fuck him right in his piggy little nose” thing applies ALL the time even when he’s not being an extra special moron like now.

  • If you cannot afford healthcare, there’s always bankruptcy.

    Choice is good.

  • whitroth

    Why is it only folks with incomes at or below the median need to suck it up, and stop wasting money on things like, y’know, food and rent? Have all the wealthy sucked it up and stopped wasting money?

    Ah, that’s a no, good buddy, they sucked up all *our* money….

  • Crystalclear12
    • mfp

      yeah…who’da guessed

    • mancityRed6

      “Fang also noted that Chaffetz spent $738 in campaign dollars at the Apple Store…”
      Instead of saving for his healthcare?

      • ClueBat

        Don’t be silly. He is not A Poor. Only poors are expected to sacrifice. If they don’t like it, then they should stop being poor. Bootstraps and stuff.

    • ClueBat

      The only surprising thing in this article is the revelation that there are people out there that are willing to identify as “Friends of Jason Chaffetz.”

  • Me not sure

    Does BYU provide helmets to their football players, or is that dealt with as an issue of faith? Chaffetz should have requested a helmet.

  • Nick Scroggs

    One, how was Jason Chaffetz a football player? He doesn’t look like he’s built like an ox, nor nimble as a gazelle, or even a medium size player, more like a rat in human clothing. Two, I thought the GOP loved mindless consumerism, or am I missing something? Three, anyone else just picture Fritz Lang’s Metropolis reading this? And four, doesn’t self-reliance need a lot of skill building over the years, like I’m sure few people could just wake up one morning and figure out how to hunt deer using guerrilla tactics by dusk. Unless that’s the plan for culling the poor form the world.

    • Miles Monroe

      Brigham Young isn’t exactly a powerhouse in the sport; they pretty much have to take what they can get …

      • What Pierre said

        Ackshully, BYU has always been moderately successful and has produced more than a few NFL players (Steve Young comes to mind). A lot of their success comes from having older players because most of their players have been on mission, older = more body maturity. So like 23 to 25-year-olds vs. 18 to 22-year-olds. Also magic underwear of course (underwear does not actually do anything).

        Sorry, sometimes the sports pedant in me can’t help itself. And Chaffetz is still a idiot, and morally bankrupt

    • jsmukg

      Three words: trust fund bitch.

  • chascates

    I’m 62 and a half, living on $1,010 a month SS, and with no savings. I get a $599 a month ACA supplement. Once that supplement is gone so is my insurance. Tax credits don’t do diddly if you don’t have the money up front to pay the premiums.

    • whitroth

      Don’t suppose you could hit Chaffitz (Cheesits?) with a civil rights lawsuit, for attempt to commit murder…?

    • VirginiaLady

      Amen!

    • Alan

      Guess you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. If you can afford boots that is.

  • Apple Scruff

    So who is voting on this first, is it the House? Should I be calling my Congressman and threaten him with non-votes if he doesn’t vote against it?

  • It’s an odd combination of paranoia and arrogance. This belief that they alone are the only decent, hard working, law abiding, patriotic Americans. They believe they’re surrounded by hordes of lazy no-accounts who just want free stuff – THEIR stuff. Who, if left to their own devices would just sit on the couch all day, eating bon-bons, and so must be forced to be productive (with them doing the forcing, of course). Little wonder they’re so easily led by this wannabe dictator.

    • Nick Scroggs

      Think you’ve described both the early 20th century nativist movements, the Bush administration’s views, and the Ayn Rand cult.

    • Vagenda of Rebel Scum

      There’s also the fact that the rich are so disconnected from the struggles of the working class and poor that they don’t have a clue. If I could recommend a reading list for clueless numbnuts: Nickle and Dimed, by Barbara Ehrenreich;, Evicted, Poverty and Profit In The American City, by Mathew Desmond; $2.00 a Day- Living on Almost Nothing in America by Kathryn J Eden; and A Hillbilly Elegy by J D Vance
      What he would learn is housing is crazy expensive and eats up most poor people’s incomes (so it’s not between I phones and insurance you putz, it’s between insurance and a roof over your head), poverty is really expensive, getting by on $2.00 a day requires a lot of hard work, poor people are punished for their mistakes longer and harder than the wealthy, and there are entire industries devoted to feeding off of the poor. I’m looking at you, payday lenders, slumlords, furniture rentals, and sleazy used car dealers.

  • stankbait
  • Resistance Fighter MausFeet

    Someone also posted his public donors list – one pays for his cell bill, which… well shit. My irony meter is broken, along with reality. This administration keeps breaking things!

  • Suse

    Remember what JEB! had to say?
    Speaking to an audience in Tempe, Arizona, Bush said the US government “should repeal Obamacare if given the opportunity” and give people more control over their own health care decisions. Then he pointed to his wrist, which was sporting a new Apple Watch, and said that it and similar devices could help that process along:
    “On this device, in five years, will be applications that will allow me to manage my health care in ways that five years ago were not even possible…. We’ll be able to guide our own health care decisions in a way that will make us healthy. And ultimately, we have to get to a health system away from a disease system.”

  • Alexander Stallwitz

    This is nothing more than a new version of the Welfare Queen meme, that Reagan and the Right popularized years ago. just change Smartphones for Cadillacs and steak.its just a way to drum up hatred of poor people as a bunch of lazy entitled moochers who only get off their asses to vote for who will give them more goodies. its part of an ongoing effort to demonize the poor by the RIght.

    • ahem, I believe the complete modern version is “A friend of mine told me he saw this guy with a track suit, air jordans and the latest iphone buying a cart full of steak n lobster ™ with his EBT card and then he loads his cart full of groceries into a shiny Escalade. This is an outrage and a waste of my tax dollars!” I’ve heard this verbatim no less than a dozen times over the years post 2008. It’s ALWAYS the same thing, too, so it makes me wonder who it was that said it first…was it Rush, or Savage, who dafuq was it?

      • Alexander Stallwitz

        I can believe this, poor shaming is the right wing talking point that won’t die

        • The most frustrating thing is how all those who would believe the myth of the tracksuit/air jordans/steaknlobster/escalade/iphone/ebt card guy, they all think that somehow poor people on welfare live in complete and total luxurious bliss, and that they are “missing out” and some even add “maybe I oughta quit my job and go on welfare, hurr hurr hurr.” In my view, if someone wants to spend their SNAP benefits on a juicy steak, fine by me because I know that person is right back to pork n beans/ramen noodles or worse the next day. And it’s not that hard to step back and realize that’s reality. I try to point this out time and time again, that it sucks and is hard to be poor in this country.

  • You know, I’m just really tired of being told that I should just shut up and die because I don’t have money for healthcare. I mean, it’s tiring. I don’t have an iPhone. My money goes for food, rent, electricity, water, and internet. I don’t even have a cell phone, just a regular old house phone that doesn’t have caller ID or call waiting or voicemail or anything. I don’t have much money left after paying for those things. Some months I have just enough extra for tiny little things, like a Wonkette ad-fewer subscription and maybe a pizza night with the kids. Other months, it’s a little better and I can afford those things, plus, like, a night out with my husband. And for us, that’s really good — a few years ago we were homeless, now we have a nice place and can pay all the bills every month, on time, and afford some little extras every month. Seems to me like that’s kind of an accomplishment. But there isn’t enough left over for health insurance even if we gave up the monthly pizza and/or date night and the $4.99 to Wonkette. And I feel like I don’t deserve to suffer or die because of that. And I kind of want to punch Jason Chaffetz in the face. Not with votes, sorry.

  • “I believe in self-reliance”

    Except when it comes to the ability to choose to use the bathroom, have an abortion, get same-sex married and so on and so on and so forth.

    • Scrofula

      to choose clean air, clean water, safe food, safe meds, safe highways, choose to not invade sovereign nations for unclear reasons.

    • WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

      He “believes” in self-reliance in the same way that he “believes” in Mormonism. It’s magic and will activate only when you believe in the magic hard enough.

  • “You know what, Americans have choices. And they’ve got to make a choice. And so maybe, rather than getting that new food that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

    “You know what, Americans have choices. And they’ve got to make a choice. And so maybe, rather than getting that new housing that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

    “You know what, Americans have choices. And they’ve got to make a choice. And so maybe, rather than getting that new heating oil that they just love and they want to spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest in their own healthcare.”

  • Some thoughts on this subject. , I was clued in to a GOP play on words. Their argument is that under THEIR plan, everyone will have ACCESS to quality healthcare. It sounds great to simple-minds, but all that one word “guarantees” is that you’ll have “access to healthcare.” Nothing about affording it. If you can’t afford it, you can imagine you have it, you can dream about it, you can rummage thru the pamphlets. You have ACCESS but you don’t HAVE! Isn’t that awesome.

    Another thought, my health insurance premiums thru my work rose every year but the hikes started slowing down after the ACA, my new 2017 rate didn’t go up one cent from 2016, first year that EVER happened. So at least the GOP, dance round the fire as they may, is being honest that they are going to promote policies that lead to higher premiums and costs, not to mention higher profits for health ins cos.

  • Iron Monkey

    Dear Jason Chaffetz and your ilk:

    Healthcare is a right, not something you get if you can afford it. Universal coverage with a single payer would be a good start toward cradle to grave free healthcare.

    Fuck you very much,

    Your biggest fan

  • (((fka_donnie_d)))

    americans have choices

    Absolutely, including the choice of kicking your pasty ass out of office.

  • Delu

    One of the greatest advantages of Trumpcare over Obamacare is that it contains much fewer pages than Obamacare.

    No really, just ask Sean Spicer….

  • Iron Monkey
  • Msgr_MΩment
    • LadyLaz

      Hahaha

  • Lefty Wright

    Choice is how the GOP will convince a lot of people on Medicare to switch to an annual voucher. Like people getting a company group plan for their family that they pay $400 or less a month for and ignore the $1,000 a month the company pays, some idiots think that the $200 a month they pay for Medicare A, B and drugs is what they would pay on the private market. Tell them they get a $4,000 annual voucher and they can keep anything left over after all those private companies compete to cover their obese, cardiac impaired 70 year old carcass and they will hop right on it. Only to find a decent policy will cost them $1,000 a month, after they revoke rights to Medicare. Idiots. Because in fact, we got Medicare because health insurance companies do not want to cover us old farts. Regardless of price. There are not a lot of extremely healthy 70 year olds to offset the ones who are less healthy.

    • LadyLaz

      Except aarp. They do understand and will fight back.

  • Querolous

    I’m still waiting https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/881cab2d2e328b48f3378f267a770413a4e6b9990d49a26f430b76aec2d9d583.png on my Marshall Obama phone. I was told it would come when he declared marshal law!

  • Zeusspeaks

    The rich and poor alike are forbidden from sleeping under bridges…Anatole France (paraphrased). Therefore, equality!

    • LadyLaz

      I’ve heard that a few times today. Ayup

  • LadyLaz

    Holy shit. Did foxnews just troll chaffetz over expensive shoes??? Holy shit.

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