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[–]MrTyler_Durden[S] 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I should also add that if a girl does manage to make it into an LTR with you, eventually you will need to start showing a little bit of provider qualities. There is such a thing as too much alpha. And if you have no interest in showing a girl provider qualities then that's fine, you don't ever have to go past level 3 with a girl. Win win.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (10子コメント)

an LTR with you, eventually you will need to start showing a little bit of provider qualities.

It's well known that LTRs thrive smoothly on a healthy mix of leadership and provider traits. By staying on-point with shit tests, and recognizing and passing comfort tests, and most importantly not becoming complacent in his self-improvement and gaming his woman, it's totally possible to have a long-term happy relationship on Red Pill terms.

[–]whatsthisgarg 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (7子コメント)

it's totally possible to have a long-term happy relationship on Red Pill terms.

When I say this, I get ass-raped by /u/HumanSockPuppet.

Also, I'm pretty sure the converse is also true: it is completely IMPOSSIBLE to have a happy relationship of any length WITHOUT RP principles.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The usual pattern failure is, a relatively Alpha guy gets into a LTR with a woman he really likes, becomes complacent about passing shit tests, gaming his woman, and self-improvement; then becomes incrementally beta-fied at least in the woman's eyes.

Some RP men are more interested in LTRs than others, and the idea isn't incompatible as those not interested sometimes suggest.

[–]whatsthisgarg 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

LTRs . . . the idea isn't incompatible

It's really the same as any sexual strategy. Women are really simple.

You want to fuck a strange chick you barely know? You just have to be hot and make her want to fuck you.

You want a happy LTR? You just have to be hot and make her want to fuck you.

You just have to be a badass every day.

And when dudes on TRP (who want a LTR) throw up their hands and throw in the towel at this point, it's just exasperating. Because basically I take them as saying but I don't want to be a badass every day.

[–]MrExpress 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When people say relationships are work this is what they really mean. If you love your woman than be a bad ass everyday for her. This is the fallacy that feminists run in to. Don't give her what she wants, give her what she needs and she'll be happier for it.

[–]mytrpname 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As the coolidge effect takes hold, the alpah stops caring so much. Time for a new pussy.

[–]asktrpthrow123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You will need to show provider qualities but most guys around here will most likely show a little too much by default without realizing it so when in doubt, just show alpha.

[–]MrTyler_Durden[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It always easier to recover from being too alpha than it is to recover from being too beta. A chick with always have an attraction for alpha even if it's too much and she goes away for a while. But too much beta can instantly kill all attraction.

[–]Gostkowski 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Never commit to anyone but yourself.

[–]ArchieJJohnson 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly. Pass shit tests, pass comfort test, pass this, pass that, work your arse off. Why? For what purpose? Just get a fresh hole. More variety and less hassle.

[–]glawkneintehn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still have to do that when banging new girls. Plus LTR for me just means no condoms (still bang new girls with condoms)

[–]AlphaProfessor 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

At what point is she expected to not be banging other dudes?

[–]TheGatesOfValhalla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are fucking her right, level 2. She shouldn't want dick from anyone else. Remember, fuck her like its the last time you'll ever fuck in your life. Every. Fucking. Time.

I'd say you should reasonably expect her to not be fucking anyone else at level 3/4 though, this really is different for each person IMO.

[–]abbafishhead 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Step 4 is unnecessary. I fail to really see the additional benefit that step 4 provides for you over step 3. In fact, I can see tons of downsides to proceeding on to step 4.

[–]MrTyler_Durden[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I had an awesome LTR in my early 20's lasted about a year. The chick was hella cool, no drama good sex and it was nice to step out of my usual cynical self and buy a couple gifts here and there. The breakup was mutual and we went different directions. It will be something I'll think about when I'm an old fuck and be like "hmm that was a good time." But you're right as far as the world is now. I'm never going past step 3. And these steps are mostly for those guys who still has rose colored glasses on about committed relationships.

[–]DarkCotton 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe I'm young and naive (19 years old here), but I want a family. I'd like to think I'm emotionally intelligent enough to see through bull shit, and can find the right girl to get to stage four with. Have to thank my sisters for teaching me some red pill theory EARLY in life, like 12 years old. Anyway, thank you for including the fourth stage.

[–]LymanRP 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gents... as a high value male, your commitment is the most valuable thing you have to offer a woman. Now, I'm going to say this again because it so important. YOUR COMMITMENT IS THE MOST VALUABLE THING YOU HAVE. So why are so many of you throwing it around like it's meaningless?

THIS. The male equivalent of a CC-riding slut is a guy that gives away his time and commitment easily.

[–]-clickhere- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Question: What do you call an "LTR" type of relationship that you don't intend to keep forever?

I get the sense that when people say 'LTR' they mean they hope it lasts. But sometimes its nice to just be in an LTR for a little while, maximize the benefit of having it, and then go back to plating for a while. So I'm trying to come up with a term for something between your level 3 and 4.

[–]glawkneintehn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you're talking about level 4. So many women are unfit to be LIFE partners and the chances are so low he didn't include a Level 5.

[–]MrTyler_Durden[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Long term" is all relevant. For some guys long term is 3 months. Others is a year or maybe 5. Up to you. She'll blow it eventually and end up getting demoted anyways so don't even worry about it lol

[–]glawkneintehn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh this is the sad thing. I'm at a point where me and my girls know it's going to be them that blow it at some point :(

Either that or I'm going to end up pushing them away from too much AF. The problem is I'm just so much more attracted to these low self-esteem nerdy white girl types (I know the worst)

[–]darksage949 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I say this again because it so important.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So many men aren't respected in their relationships because the girl didn't have to do jack to get it.

probably one of the most important things you should drill into your skulls

[–]rang3_at_war 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I say this, pass that, work your arse off.

[–]kxn037459 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So when guys say, go out and spin plates that's what they really mean.

[–]dartagnon81 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

By staying on- point with shit tests, pass that, work your arse off.

[–]Zack9764 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've always recommended only girls you see as your best friend make it to LTR. Just a friend isn't good enough.

[–]kutie-pie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

good post, definitely mentioned here before.. but we also tend to forget that our TIME is just as valuable and goes hand and hand with commitment.

[–]sunole123 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why is the first step called the plate? As in what? Food plate? I Can't get the metaphor without the meaning

[–]MrTyler_Durden[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know those show performers that spin plates on this long sticks? They hold a bunch of sticks in their hands and feet and spin plates on them. A girl is called a plate because when you have sex with her from then on you want to "spin" her to keep her coming around for more dick. You spin multiple plates at a time because eventually plates stop spinning and they fall off. So when guys say, go out and spin plates that's what they mean. Get as many girls in your rotation as possible because girls are fucking wily and they can fall off for no reason.