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[-]TemptNotTheBlade 5 points (4 children)
Anyone who asks such a stupid question doesn't understand the concept of Freedom of Speech.
Freedom of Speech is protection from persecution from the Government for your speech.
[-]SharkThug 6 points (1 children)
(Replace 1st Amendment with Article 19, also the government can arrest under certain circumstances)
[-]xkcd_transcriber 1 points
Title: Free Speech
Title-text: I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
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[-]bhiliyam 4 points (1 children)
You don't understand the spirit of his question. He is basically saying, if you can't maintain order on r/india, a small online forum where most people come from an educated, privileged background, without putting in various curbs on what they can say, how would you do the same in India?
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 2 points (2 children)
Nobody denies that the right rules against speech will be good for the country. But we cannot risk giving the Govt the privilege to make the rules. Also, if we do not like the rules in /r/india, we can right away move to a different forum where we like the rules. We do not have that option with Govt - which is another reason we cannot have the govt make those rules.
The Charlie Hebdo cartoons serve no purpose & are useless. They do a disservice to society. Taken in isolation, disallowing them may be a good thing. But we still want to have the freedom from being getting persecuted by the Govt for them because of the principle. We do not want the Govt deciding what is good & what is not.
[-]144WWW 1 points (1 children)
That's like saying if you don't like the rules of India you should go to Pakistan
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 1 points
Exactly. It may not be possible for most people to go to Pakistan.
[-]bhiliyam 1 points (1 children)
Nobody denies that the right rules against speech will be good for the country. But we cannot risk giving the Govt the privilege to make the rules
So, who should make the rules then?
And if you think that the right rules against speech will be good for the country, you are agreeing with his argument in principle.
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 2 points (1 children)
So, who should make the rules then?
Nobody. We do not have rules against speech.
And if you think that the right rules against speech will be good for the country, you are agreeing with his argument in principle.
No. I updated my original comment.
[-]bhiliyam 1 points (1 children)
Okay, I got your argument now, but I am not sure if most people support absolute freedom of speech for the same reasons.
[-]abhi8192 2 points (1 children)
I got your argument now, but I am not sure if most people support absolute freedom of speech for the same reasons.
What might be some other reason? Just asking
[-]bhiliyam 1 points
Many people take absolute freedom of speech to be axiomatic.
[-]a_random_individual 1 points - [removed] (1 children)
He's comparing them in spirit, not legality.
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 2 points (1 children)
And IMHO, the spirits cannot be compared.
[-]a_random_individual 1 points (1 children)
Why not? Explain?
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 1 points (1 children)
Check my other comments in this thread.
[-]a_random_individual 1 points (1 children)
I agree that they aren't equivalent but in context of the rules of this sub, it's not that hard to draw parallels.
[-]TemptNotTheBlade 1 points
I find it very hard to draw parallels.
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[-]bane_4u 2 points
First of all, Flair daal post pe bc. Warna post nikal denge.
Second, Reddit is a private company. Randia is sub made by the mods, They can put restrictions and I am fine with them. FoE means government should not stop you from expressing your opinions.
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