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Need serious advice & perspective from older folks. (self.MGTOW)

fezha が 投稿

Please don't comment if you will judge me or put me down.

I'm currently in a country where brothels are legal. I had a good hour last night with an escort. Best sex I ever had. Bar none. She said I fucked really well, and it honestly felt like love. Just hear me out. I miss her and it's getting to my head. I was very respectful & took my time, and I think she enjoyed it. I don't know how the men are here, but she let me do anything. It was unusual, because you know these girls tend to hold back. She didn't, but I treatdd her well and I always have the mantral of make love, not fuck. It just felt real.

I'm at my loft, trying to keep my mind busy doing homework online. But it's getting to me. I'm seeing her again tonight. I'm only here for tonight and leaving tomorrow.

I've never had feelings like this. Last night, as I walked back home, I almost cried (don't judge). I didn't feel a single drop of disgust, I felt loved and not judged. I've had a rough past and currently serve in the military. I don't know how to handle this. It's like lust, love, and ecstazy. I don't know.

I understand the woman does this for a living. I get it. But the feelings are eating me every time I think of her. I hugged so hard before I left, y'all don't understand....

I just need advice. Please tell me something. I don't want to be at work thinking of this....just anything.

I'm 24, single, no kids, got a vasectomy a few months ago. I'm very independent & confident. This is unusual for me. Maybe I seeked love in the wrong place.

The only I'm telling myself is that I should keep and leave the love in the bed, and not bring it back home with me. I don't know what else to make of it.

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[–]wildfireboat 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Her job is to get customers to return.

[–]StillSingleTho 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Precisely. This was my first thought upon reading OP's post.

My second query was, how much did he pay her?

[–]srtor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaks volume. And she is good in what she is doing.

OP - bring back the focus on you. You have lost it.

[–]Womencantlove 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sex is drugs as far as your brain is concerned. She can't love you, she only wants your money.

[–]Rick2wise 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is my perspective as someone much older than you who has had many relationships and the scars that they leave. We are conditioned from an early age to believe their is a hole in our being that can only be filled with "love". When we have an emotional reaction to someone our programming will sometimes take over and we will think "Is this feeling love?" or "I am in love!" This may seem ridiculous but remember social conditioning is very strong and pervasive. I suggest that you take an inventory of your feelings. You may be surprised to realise the emotion you are feeling is really the result of something else other than this woman. Maybe a decision you have been putting off for example. An emotion (e-motion - movement) is often a call to action - a prompting of something we need to do. Personally I do not believe that "love" exists between men and women in the conventional sense of the word. As others have said I agree that she is a professional and wants your money and repeat business.

P.S. As this is my first post to MGTOW I want to thank everyone here for helping me on my own journey. Keep posting Men - you are not alone.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You aren't either brother.

Solid post

[–]Raiden627 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love is just your desire to empty your nuts. You'd love your pillow if it could provide you with more pleasure than a pussy.

[–]inspiron3000 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She sees other men. Think about that.

[–]gods_bones 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Her main goal is to get repeat customers. Any salesperson aims for that. And the best way to get people to buy is to make them feel emotional about what they are selling. Once you understand that all businesses operate this way you will understand you were nothing but a number in a long line of customers. Most of these customers are also planning to repeat and give her more money because, like you, they felt the service she gave them was worth the cost. Do not be fooled. Money is worth more today than it is tomorrow. Save your money.

If you are both so in love with each other... wait a year before you see her again, if it's true love, those feelings will still be there equally strong in 1 year's time right? If it's not true love, you will forget her face by this time next year and she will forget your name. But in that 1 year, the value of your money will grow if you invest it instead of spending it.

[–]Raiden627 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's pretty interesting - Brazilian hookers actually do more emotional shit for the guys then sex. They're so beat up by their wives that they actually pay for these women to roleplay and say that they love these guys and pretend to actually be caring women, gfs, etc. Patrice O Neal has a bit about this on Opie and Anthony.

[–]RunawayGrain 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's a good whore, and knows how to please a man. She's also good at snagging repeat customers. In other words she knows how to create and use the 'Real Girlfriend Experience.'

[–][deleted] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Dude, take a cold shower.

Many of us have had the experience, and it isnt real.

Sure, some of them really do like to have sex and may treat you like a GF, but even so, its not real.

You have no idea of what love is, if you think its good sex with a hooker.

You have some deep seeded issues, I suggest you work on yourself and explore you inner workings.

Take some LSD if you wish to delve into your past and present. It helps.

[–]fezha[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I took a shower this morning and I think I will take another one.

[–][deleted] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Top stuff :)

Dude, women are a burden. You're still a kid. Go out and have fun, go to the gym, help other people, spend your time wisely.

Take it from a 36 y/o that has been around the world and has acquired bit of wisdom: leave women alone, they are not worth your energy.

[–]fezha[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You sound very sure. Maybe the key is to try LSD, ha.

Regardless, Ill take what you said I mind.

[–]Raiden627 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Acid breaks down your ego which is the thing that holds your identity together. Without it, you start to look at yourself objectively in the third person. It's scary to look at but can be helpful for self discovery.

[–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont knock it til you try it dude.

Im your regular goodie two shoes (LoL) and LSD has helped me to shed light on the past and (with my effort) to move on and heal.

Drugs are a tool, just like most things in life.

[–]letsriseup 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all in your head.

That's all that needs to be said.

[–]Coluphid 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oxytocin buddy.

Your body provokes a chemical reaction to the positive sexual experience.

It's all just Chems, swirling around your brain. Recognize this and rise above.

Use the emotional upset to do something physical; run, work out, chop wood, dig a hole, cut down a tree, etc.

Move on.

[–]cashmoney_x 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not her, it's the feelings.

[–]MGTOW_Monger 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude.

You paid to fuck.

She was paid to fuck.

Sure, could have been possibly some sparks and biochemical attraction beyond.

But, you would be a fool to take this any further than fucking.

[–]misterbadattitude 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can tell you from experience it happened to me too unexpected, falling in love with a prostitute. All they care about is making money, remember that. Do NOT be a white knight and try to save her. She has seen a lot and in this business she can handle herself. Just forget about her, visit her less and go visit others. Seriously do not try engage in a relationship. All they sell is lies, don't fall for the sad stories she tells you.

FORGET ABOUT HER YOU GOING TO GET HURT!

[–]grasshopper_69 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is an actor. Apparently one of the good ones. She is doing what she does best, make you feel loved and separating you from your resources. All women do that, some are just better actors.

She has found the best way to get to you. You have an emotional craving to make "connection". She played on that. The best solution? Find other hookers. There is always one better.

You cannot make a hoe a housewife. The more partners, and she's a hooker, she has other partners, think about it.. Many other men have been where you have been ...repeatedly . . . and may have fallen for the same trap. She is after your resources. Your money makes her happy, not you.

If you want a "connection" make it with other men.. Bond with them, tell them about your hooker, let them share the experience, then talk about it. What is common in their experience and yours.. What tricks become evident once you share your experiences?

[–]mofono 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There is no need to marry her. Just keep visiting her. I've been seeing the same prostitute for a year now.

[–]fezha[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you ever feel like this? Please tell me I'm not the only one.

How often do you see her? Did you develop [professional] feelings?

You see her often for a reason.

[–]mofono 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not you so don't know how you felt exactly, so I can't compare your feelings to mine, but when it comes to prostitutes I like to see the same person over and over because you know what you're getting.

Regardless of whether you developed "feelings" for her, it's completely irrelevant. Your feelings make you want to see her more, so just see her more. It's as simple as that.

[–]McGauth925 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS IS A NATURAL RESPONSE TO AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN WHO WAS WILLING TO BE INTIMATE WITH YOU.

I think we all want to feel that way about somebody. I know I do.

But... face it: it's not likely to work out well for you if you pursue her, given the cirecumstances. You may have to pursue her, given the effect she's had on you. I can only hope you're able to use your mind, as well as your feelings, to guide you through this.

[–]odion1500 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it is "love" she will let you fuck her for free next time.

[–]ghost6654 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Her job is to keep you coming back for more. how many of her other clients do you think she sweet talks to/does a little extra to make them feel special? Hint: all of them.

Tough love here, but wake the fuck up bro. You're letting your little head control your big head and confusing a simple exchange of money for sex with love/deep connection.

[–]geocitiesuser 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you orgasm, your brain produces "bonding hormones". With enough time and orgasms you will be able to get over it, and this is why slutty women are incapable of monogamy. You should probably not see that hooker again if it's making you emotional like that. I can almost guarantee she will squeeze every penny out of you if given the opportunity. Remember she'd probably not even speak to you if you weren't paying... should put things in perspective.

[–]Soulforgold 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just seratonin, oxytocin, and dopamine.

[–]NotJerrySeinfeld2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Consider this: would SHE pay YOU?

[–]Raiden627 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went through this same thing with a girl for a while - her name was Maya - Puerto Rican chick, gorgeous, called me daddy, the whole nine - but again they have to put on an act to get you to come back. You had sex with a hot bitch - of course you're going to be attached. Just need more pussy man to widen your horizons.

[–]phathack 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you got your moneys worth. That's what you pay her for to make you feel good, to give you an endorphin rush.

Its up to you to deal with the emotions that the endorphins are string up. At 24 with all the hormones in you body its hard to separate love and sex.

Thats how women have been trapping men for thousands of years.

[–]hb8only 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you need to spin bitches not just one but more as a safety to don't fall for onetis..

and just imagine right at this moment how she is licking some dude ass hole for extra money you idiot... :)))

[–]Big_ass_mgtow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just have too much love to give. Try to convert it to self love

[–]Zombocom1911 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You had great sexual chemistry with her. It can definitely happen, I have experienced it myself with prostitutes. They are human beings like anyone else, man. People have married prostitutes and lived happily with them, there are exceptions to every rule. Don't ask a bunch of strangers on the internet for their advice, do what you think is right.

[–]wordjedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's a working girl. Even if she's pretty and she was nice to you, that just means she's good at her job. Take some time off from that one and see other providers to dilute the memory. Then maybe see her again.

[–]TheLoonyDuck 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As you wrote this, chances are she is doing the exact same stuff to some other dude who payed the same.

[–]hollybegin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I miss her and it's getting to my head.

DOPAMINE (or some other shit). Nice feelings shit but shit nonetheless.

We've all been there, bio-chemistry. Feelings are nothing but illusions built in our brains by hormonal influx.....

Cold as fuck and very unromantic, I know!