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Step Down Mods (self.conspiracy)

Objectively_Stated が 投稿

Moderators of /r/conspiracy, it's time for you to go. You are no longer allowing free and open discussion of any and all conspiracies to take place here, and your Trump-Russia bias is clear. This isn't /r/t_d2.0, it's not /r/nothingbutpizzagate, and it's not a place for Ann fucking Coulter to spread her bullshit propaganda while you flat out delete a post about Jeff Sessions with 418 points and 683 comments with no reason or explanation.

Fellow conspiracy theorists, I hope you'll join me in boycotting this sub until these compromised mods are replaced. This is no longer a place for free speech and free thought, this is now a Trump propaganda sub.

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[–]spankyshank 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't free speech include (your perceived) propaganda?

There is a flip side to this sub, a polar opposite agenda to what you are accusing the mods of propagating. Yet there is no call to ban the mods for letting the r/politics cess run through this place.

[–]Objectively_Stated[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't free speech include (your perceived) propaganda?

Why yes, it would. That's why we post things, analyze, discuss. However, there can be no open discussion with mods that actively censor this sub.

[–]ac-phil93 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

i don't think the problem is that there are political posts, the problem is that there are political posts that have zero to do with any conspiracy. for example: earlier this week people (or maybe 1 person) were posting political articles that were so irrelevant to any conspiracies that i would've sworn they were posted here by pure accident if it wasn't such a habitual thing

[–]Objectively_Stated[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And posts like that are left alone while the Jeff Sessions post I mentioned is erased without explanation. You're exactly right, this sub is nothing more than propaganda now.

[–]marcomula -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You said it best it's become the_donald 2.0 all the banned Donald users have flocked over here

[–]ac-phil93 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

here is one example that i could remember from this week: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5wwyuy/a_transgender_boy_just_won_the_texas_girls_state/

couldn't find the conspiracy here with a flashlight and a map

[–]Rubulisk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The pushing of a transgender agenda to normalize the breakdown of sexual norms. If you don't think the US government is on board with the breakdown and corruption of the culture, you haven't been paying attention.

That being said, standard political posts don't belong here, be they from the Left or Right.

[–]elcad 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But that was not what the post was about.

[–]Rubulisk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then the OP is at fault for not including the reason as to WHY it fits in /r/conspiracy, but I would say that it definitely does belong. I suppose it just needs some explanation.

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

If we were really the censors you accuse us of being, this post would have been deleted and you would have been banned as soon as you posted it.

Instead I'm going to let you continue embarrassing yourself as freely as you'd like to.

[–]Objectively_Stated[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Except you were just caught blatantly censoring yesterday and it's in your best interest to not do it again so soon. Don't act like we all don't know what's going on in this sub, it's painfully obvious.

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Haha okay brother. Flail away.

[–]kokokovacs 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Flail away? Then explain why was the post deleted.

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It isn't deleted. Another mod removed it under rule 10 and it was re-approved within 2 minutes. Anything else I can help you with?

[–]kokokovacs 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Rule 10 - "Posts that attack this sub, users or mods thereof, will be removed. Accusing another user of being a troll or shill can be viewed as an attack, depending on context. First violations will usually result in a warning but bans are at the mods' discretion."

It was literally the title "Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose" and no text. I would like to know what part of that broke Rule 10 according the mod. If he has no explanation, they shouldn't be mod

Also, if it was re-approved, why doesn't it show up in the post histoy, or the top posts of this week?

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I thought you were talking about this post. I have no idea why the other one was removed, I wasn't the one who did that. Who said it was removed for rule 10 though? I think you just made that part up.

[–]kokokovacs 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This (current) post is in reference to that post "Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose". It was linked in the text of this (current) post.

It is still at +423, and was deleted at approx. +700. So what's the story, you obviously have a way to see why posts were deleted.

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nope, I just see that it was removed and which mod removed it. If that mod doesn't give a reason on the post itself then there's no way for me to know.

[–]kokokovacs 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could you please ask?

[–]aleister 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, screw you mods for working so hard to make this one of the last places not completely infested with paid propaganda!

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    [–]YouHaveCancer_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    The mods will not look kindly on your language, just a heads up man.

    [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    That's fine, I'll be unsubbing at the end of today anyway. Just hoping to spread some awareness about the state of this sub to anyone that hasn't seen it yet.

    [–]EarthquakesVolcanoes 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    lol 'at the end of the day'. it's just a fucking button, click it

    [–]ryoushure 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    kbye

    [–]mastigia -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    thanks! Please don't steal anything the way out.

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      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Well no, that's an actual message I just received from the aforementioned user. It's now shilling or trolling to copy and paste the exact message?

      [–]djklbd -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Post a screen shot. And even then, whose to say that's not an alt account of yours?

      Doesn't matter nobody's reading this shit post anyway lol...

      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Here you go, good enough? And judging by the number of comments in less than 20 minutes, I'd say a decent amount of people are reading this shit post.

      [–]Pdelic1 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They have a crass way of saying things, but I have to agree with selfreferentailuser.

      [–]ac-phil93 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      i've gotten PMs from banned users in the past. they can't comment on the article because they're banned so they send abuse to the poster's inbox

      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's a very odd account, zero activity for 11 months yet randomly messages me in all caps.

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic[M] -6 ポイント-5 ポイント  (20子コメント)

      Please read the rules on the sidebar and be aware that this is your only warning for rule 10. Next time you attack another user like this you will be permanently banned.

      Edit for /u/KiwiBattlerNZ: I was mistaken, the rule 10 violations were from the banned user doing the PMing.

      [–]ac-phil93 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (19子コメント)

      he was quoting someone who was attacking him in a PM....

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (18子コメント)

      And your point? Personal attacks don't fly here under any circumstances.

      [–]ac-phil93 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (17子コメント)

      of course, that's the best thing about this sub. but your comment said he was attacking another user when he wasn't, it was him being attacked in this case

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (16子コメント)

      Nothing in those messages is an attack, whereas OP is calling the other dude a cocksucking retard, fucking dipshit, and a bitch - among other things. I don't know why you're trying to defend OP here but he was being an asshole and that type of childish behavior isn't tolerated on this sub. It isn't really too complicated.

      [–]ac-phil93 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (15子コメント)

      wait that's not right, it's the other way around -- the quoted lines in that comment are from OP's original post. the attacker was quoting OP's post and then writing the lines of abuse after each thing OP had said

      edit: here's the screenshot he provided that proves it wasn't him that was saying that nasty stuff: http://imgur.com/a/YViq5

      edit 2: i wouldn't go out on a limb to defend a bad person, i just don't want him to have gotten punished for something he didn't do

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (14子コメント)

      Hmm, true. OP is just shit-stirring regardless though in my opinion so he doesn't get much sympathy from me unfortunately. He was fishing for a negative reaction with this post and I guess he got one.

      [–]PwnZilla88 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      so attacks on users are absolutely not allowed until the personal attack is against someone you disagree with, got it

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The user PMing him was banned from this sub months ago. So what is your point? The rules apply to everyone. Nice strawman though.

      [–]KiwiBattlerNZ 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      so he doesn't get much sympathy from me unfortunately.

      Interesting... you've kind of proved his point. You're essentially admitting to selective enforcement of the rules.

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Not at all, because the user he was getting PMs from was banned months ago for making similar comments to others. As I just said to someone else in this thread.

      [–]ac-phil93 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      i totally agree OP was needling people and shit stirring. if the attacking message hadn't come from a banned user i might've just let it go. but if a user is banned from here it's probably for good reason, so it bothered me that banned users can still abuse members from 'beyond the grave', so to speak.

      anyway, thanks for being chill about me whining about all this haha. on with our days.

      edit: words

      [–]Ambiguously_Ironic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      All good man, my bad for misunderstanding. Enjoy your weekend.

      [–]EarthquakesVolcanoes 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      lol this thread again. welcome to the community brother, stick around, I'm sure you'll get a better feel for this place with time. This is the best sub on reddit, so again, welcome

      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Been here for a while now, and it's nothing close to what it used to be and a far cry from the best sub on Reddit.

      [–]EarthquakesVolcanoes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      It is the best sub in reddit, perhaps if you posted your favorite conspiracy you would get the attention you seem to be longing for. What is your all time favorite conspiracy my brother?

      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      As long as this sub is censored by the mods, it doesn't matter what my favorite conspiracy is or what my signal is. There can be no truth found without free thought and free speech, and we have neither in this sub.

      [–]HarryParatesties 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      So what's your favorite conspiracy?

      [–]WarSanchez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Obviously the one he can't talk about.

      That's why he's not talking about it.

      [–]HarryParatesties 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fuck, that one is the worst.

      [–]KiA423469420 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Can't stop the signal, man. I know it, you know it, we all know it. So what's your signal? Tell the world what makes a living flame out of you and help us all to break your chains.

      [–]jr111222 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ah so youre just the neighborhood gatekeeper. i was a lil puzzled until you mentioned this thread and now i see you do this to spread that everyone who questions whats happening in this sub is a shill.

      in fact, it seems odd that youve just started this gatekeeping behavior in the last few months. coincidence? probably not.

      [–]mastigia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I love you crybaby motherfuckers with no history in this sub who like to come in here and concern troll because you don't like the flavor of the binky.

      We got one of the best mod teams on reddit who deal with the most controversial subjects and inflamed opinions on the planet. Go back to /r/politics.

      [–]ParanoidFactoid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Agreed on the bias.

      [–]Prgjdsaewweoidsm -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You're lucky they're in place. I'd ban your ass just for making this ridiculous, no-content post and trying to sow discord.

      [–]lordbananafist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Trump isn't even a 9/11 truther. Are you sure we actually like him?

      [–]Objectively_Stated[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I don't think the average pre-election /r/conspiracy user likes him at all, but I also think this sub has been overran but Trump supporters and the mods have been compromised.

      [–]Ronaldjpierce 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      quit bitching and combat them. You have like the 700th post saying something like this.

      [–]djklbd -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You're trying to turn this place into the Donald 2.0 with all the trump bs and sessions worship. You guys have already pledged allegiance to your royal leader, and the rest of us are still skeptical.