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[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 393 ポイント394 ポイント  (230子コメント)

Game looks really good, post is accurate though. I will never actually get the chance to play it.

[–]KaravuskHTC Vive owner - i7 5820k / r9 390x 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (102子コメント)

Give it a few years and you can maybe play it on a ps4 emulator

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (22子コメント)

We're still waiting on an effective PS3 emulator. Our best bet is Sony's "game streaming" thing they had been talking about releasing on PC. Sure, not as good as porting, but it's a start.

It's called PlayStation Now, and currently only allows for PS3 game streaming to PS4 and PC.

[–]xanarax 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Emulation of the PS3 is mostly tied up with emulating completely different hardware architecture though.

In theory PS4 and Xbone will be easy to port as they use the same architecture as a PC.

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can see how now, actually. Wouldn't that also eliminate the need for recompilers and actually improve performance?

[–]xanarax 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'd still need to emulate or recreate their hardware API, similar to what Wine does for Linux. Xbone is probably pretty similar to DirectX.

You run into issues with games been encrypted on disc and current consoles require everything to be authenticated.

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's fair. I'm not particularly knowledgeable on the subject, so I try to learn whatever I can.

[–]Fiction52 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently it's not that easy as we still don't have an original xbox emulator. That console was also x86 based and even used directx.

[–]Senor_PlatanoSpecs/Imgur here 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The reason why there's no xbox emulator is because it had no good console only exclusives, halo 1 and 2 are on PC.

[–]WrenchMonkey319 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right but the firmware is one hell of a tough nut to crack. Afaik only a older and obsolete firmware has been broken. In fact it is pre katana era firmware.

[–]xanarax 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Iirc the first Xbox had 1024 bit encryption on it's BIOS.

[–]WaidWilsonGTX 1080 Strix | GSYNC | 4690k | Too Much RGB 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It wouldn't surprise me if PS4 emulation came before PS3. Ps4 runs on x86 architecture and the PS3 was really tough to develop for IIRC

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'd be correct there. Both the Xbox 360 (IBM Xenon) and PS3 (PowerPC Cell) utilize the Power Architecture instruction set (vs Intel and AMD's x86 instruction set).

[–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/FuryX/8GBram/windows 7 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but dont the gamecube-wiiu use powerpc as well?

[–]Black_Swords_ManB.S Computational Physicist / M.S Computer Science 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Prepare to be mind blown. They did release that game streaming on PC.

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And a good thing too, since PC players can now technically play RDR on PC.

[–]littlecolti5 760@3.2GHz, GTX660, Logitech Fanboy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's really kinda awesome.

[–]stormin217Steam ID Here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Off topic, I know; but is your username the same as your R*?

[–]LoneSeeker777i7 6700K | 980 Ti | 16G RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep! That would be me.

[–]LoadClear99i5 - 6500, RX480, 16GB DDR4 119 ポイント120 ポイント  (77子コメント)

I watched The Last of Us playthroughs on Youtube, now I'm watching Horizon playthroughs. Id rather watch them than buy a PS4

[–]WilliamifyXD 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (2子コメント)

console propaganda backfires good job sony

[–]Vogporn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, it sure did backfire by still selling tons and tons of copies...

[–]WilliamifyXD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes but by adding the twitch function they added more ways to access the game without having a playstation.

[–]Greenbayjamesi74790k@4.4/980ti@1334 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

at the risk of sounding like a peasant, TLOU imo is one of the best games ever made. i got ps4 for remastered, and will get "ps5?" if i need to for TLOU part 2

[–]ArcherInPositionSteam ID Here 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Praising games isn't peasantry fella. Unless it's terminator salvation cuz that game is shit.

[–]BarrileteCosmico86Specs/Imgur here 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everything terminator except the first 2 movies and the arcade shooter game*

[–]mitchell271Specs/Imgur here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone should remake classic arcade lightgun cabinets for VR. I'd buy a HMD just for that. I could finally beat Time Crisis 4 for less than $1000!

[–]douglaspilgrimWin10 | FX 6300 | GTX 750ti | 8gb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to agree with you. Unfortunatelly my budget doesn't allow me to have a PS4.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah me too, does it have a multiplayer mode?

[–]mostimprovedpatient 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think it does. Or if it does I haven't gotten to where you can do that.

[–]MeBeErici5 6600k / GTX 1070 FTW / 16GB RAM / 120GB + 2TB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously though... go get a cheap PS3 and play TLOU... it's super fun and very well made.

[–]WaidWilsonGTX 1080 Strix | GSYNC | 4690k | Too Much RGB 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you can get a cheap PS4 I'd recommend it. Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, Nioh, Yakuza 0, Until Dawn, Horizon Zero Dawn, Sony has some top quality exclusives rn.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sony definitely has the best exclusives this gen, it's just that o have either seen playthroughs of them or they just don't interest me too much.

[–]casont111BudgetBuild 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sold my ps4 about a year ago for pc parts and I've never regretted it but I bought another one for this game and so far I don't regret that either.

[–]oridjinni7-3770, 16GB, 7870-TAHITI 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I purchased a PS4, in part, to get this game.

But honestly. I would much prefer to get it on PC or even Xbox.

  • Because my kids play xbox and I could get it digitally and then they get a 2nd copy for free (Kinda. Long Story.)

  • Also, If it was on xbox then there is a chance I would get a free copy on PC.

  • Aaaaaand if it was on Xbox then I could play it on Scorpio when that comes out. Which might... just might be able to squeeze out 1080/60

PS PS4 Pro's barely making it to 1080/30 or the checkered/psuedo 4k/30

So... While I got a PS4 Pro for this game. And it looks amazing and runs well. Xbox or PC would have been a MUCH more preferred path for a lot of reasons.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (6子コメント)

PC would be preferred in almost every situation, IMO.

[–]oridjinni7-3770, 16GB, 7870-TAHITI 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only case for me is the sharing of games. Aside from DRM free. (And I do not mean stealing i just mean letting my kids each have a copy on their PCs)

Steam sharing locks anyone from from playing ALL of your games if you play 1 game. So Steam sharing is the worst of the game sharing available vs DMR Free, PS4 and Xbox.

But beyond that. Yes I would much prefer PC. Then i could play on my laptop during lunch at work, on the couch next to my wife, and on my 4k screen on my desk. PC wins in most cases for me.

[–]Violent_Bouncei7 7700k @5GHz | Sapphire R9 390 Nitro | 3000MHz DDR4 RAM 16GB 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, steam family sharing is awful. I did it so that my sister could play fallout 4, but then I found out that it wasn't like I could be playing counter strike or something while she was playing Fallout, I just basically had to play my xbox/emulators/origin games/uplay games/etc. At that point, I would rather just buy another copy of the game to gift to them.

[–]ProfitOfRegret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Steam family sharing is terrible, it's like loaning out your entire Steam account, if they play, you can't, and their VAC ban is your VAC ban.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I don't like that at all. My daughter likes to play some games, but I usually just let her install them and she can play offline and I can still use my account on my computer.

[–]MGsubbiei7 3770k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1070@2101Mhz, 16GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can choose whether they can access all games or select individual titles. When they play and you want to, they get 5 minutes to finish up.

[–]SirWaffleOfSyrupi7 2600K GTX 970 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just used it as a way for all my friends to have the CS:Source textures for GMod without buying it. As a family sharing system it's complete shit for no reason at all.

[–]DingoManDingoi5 6600k 4.5Ghz | GTX 1070 OC | Witcher 3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Feel this way about the new Zelda. Better wait a decade and emulate.

[–]HAPPYSADPERSONi7-6700k | Powercolor PCS+ R9 390 | 16GB DDR4 3200 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean Cemu is already working for a lot of Wii U games. Zelda only boots up currently, but that's already incredible. It's only a matter of time before people can fully emulate it at 4K.

[–]DingoManDingoi5 6600k 4.5Ghz | GTX 1070 OC | Witcher 3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow sick

[–]maboesanmani7 6700k, gtx 1060 6gb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Consider the wiiu version and cemu (the wiiu emulator, which is still in progress)

[–]WaidWilsonGTX 1080 Strix | GSYNC | 4690k | Too Much RGB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well..there is Cemu.

[–]KurosovGTX 1080 Amp 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'd say zelda is in a wore situation atm as well.

While you may think of buying a ps4 for one game there are others you might actually want to try. The only value of the switch so far is zelda.

[–]littlecolti5 760@3.2GHz, GTX660, Logitech Fanboy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Refurbished Wii U is $200 straight from Nintendo, used on ebay possibly even less. I'd say worth it to play those Nintendo 1st party titles, plus you can get Breath of the Wild on there, though it will only play at 720p as opposed to the switch which runs it at 900p.

  • Breath of the Wild
  • Smash Bros, of course
  • Bayonetta 2
  • Super Mario Maker
  • Mario 3D World
  • Mario Kart 8
  • Xenoblade Chronicles X

There's plenty of good titles on there, and we know after Friday there will be no more made, so you can judge pretty easily if a Wii U would be worthwhile for grabbing and playing some titles on it that you missed.

I imagine the price will continue to go down since it probably won't keep as popular in it's after-life like the Wii did.

[–]ashesariseI5 6600k R9 390 1440p 16gbDDR4 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Just curious, what is the appeal of the game? What do you see about it that you like?

[–]ProfitOfRegret 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Robot dinosaurs!!!

[–]TheRealFunWithAGuni7 4790K/16 GB RAM/EVGA GTX 980ti Hybrid/512 GB Samsung SSD 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That! And really high production value. The art direction is awesome. Just started the game today (a few hours ago). At the end of the day it is like "The Wicher 3" but in a different setting.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just something different. I like the art style and the whole future hunter sort of idea going on. From what I have watched the combat looks pretty cool too. It just looks like it would be fun to play through.

[–]Anon_Logic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know if you can but, if you can ride a T-Rex into combat then this is game of the year right here.

[–]kozeljkoi5 750 / R9 280x Toxic / 8GB RAM-1600 / 250GB SSD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ark Survival fan, then?

[–]Miniappolisi7 6700HQ - GTX 1060 - Metabox P650RP 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Get a PS4, one of the best things I ever did. My gaming habits have changed drastically and I rarely game on anything now, but the few games I enjoy are shared across PC and PS4. I do have to curate games on PS, as aim assistance is a must, but the 30FPS isn't really an issue to my eyes.

[–]xyifer12 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why must you have aim assist? Do you have hand tremors or some other problem?

[–]forsubbingonlyFuck you. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If every semi competitive game has some form of aim assist on console you become reliant on it.

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

FPS stuff doesn't matter to me, I don't really care about it. I don't want a ps4 because I know for a fact that I wont ever use it. I like gaming on my PC and that will likely never change. I can use a controller or M+K and I can do other things on it. A couple exclusives aren't going to change my mind.

[–]WeirdEraContSpecs/Imgur here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I caved and bought a ps4 pro to have a 4k thingy in the living room. Gonna get bloodborne, nioh, nier, and allthe other ps4 goodies I missed out on.

[–]HeartlessSora1234 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bought it today can confirm very good. Only stopped playing to poop and browse Reddit

[–]fight_for_anythingi6700k 4.0Ghz GTX970 16GB DDR4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

until someone makes a ps4 emulator.

[–]cobalt_mcgi7-6700K @ 4.5GHz | GTX 1070 SC | 16gb DDR4 175 ポイント176 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I've been ruined by PC. The game is gorgeous and a lot of fun, but even with a surprisingly stable 30 fps all of the motion blur makes me go cross eyed.

[–]Kofilini7-4790K, 32GB, 980Ti Hybrid, 1.2TB 750 Series, PG278Q 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The only game capable of making me forget about that is Bloodborne.

[–]cobalt_mcgi7-6700K @ 4.5GHz | GTX 1070 SC | 16gb DDR4 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, the ratchet and Clank remake on ps4 was locked at 30fps but it was absolutely gorgeous at 4k and the turning speed really masked the low frame rate or seemed

[–]Kofilini7-4790K, 32GB, 980Ti Hybrid, 1.2TB 750 Series, PG278Q 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've looked (for several hours) at someone playing that game in front of me. The moment the camera turned, everything except Ratchet was a blurry mess. I'm not sure it's better to do that over well-defined jerky motion at 30 FPS.

[–]TechnycolorSpecs/Imgur here 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also forgot about it when I played bloodborne. Though I would kill for a stable 30fps, even 60.

[–]IVIaskeradeIntel i5 3.2GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair that's only because there's so many bits of cloth and stuff flying around the models that the blur just kind of fades into everything else.

[–]coolditoSpecs/Imgur here 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bloodborne was so good I forgot about the CA and the shitty frame rates

[–]SomeRandomProducer 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I have been enjoying the game, all I think about is how amazing it could look on my PC

[–]nevernudeftwi7-6700k | MSI 1070 Seahawk X 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it's doing the same to me as well. I found that playing further away than my normal distance from the TV helped a bit. Even the Pro performance mode doesn't help with the framerate.

Such a great game hampered by terrible framerate.

Anyone that says 30fps is fine, is full of shit.

[–]greyconscience 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Question? How much is that attributable to your tv? A couple of years ago, I bought one of Panasonic's plasma tv's, and, though I don't have the specs off hand, it has a high refresh rate and motion-smoothing settings. With the motion smoothing off, games suck and movies are great. With motion smoothing on, everything is very clear and looks great. Just have to turn it off to watch a movie or show because then, everything looks fake.

The difference is astounding. From Assassin's Creed 4 (oh, those ship battles) to Witcher 3 and the redone Ratchet and Clank, it makes a huge difference.

[–]I_ate_a_milkshakei5 - 4460; EVGA GTX 980Ti; 8GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's because your game was able to fill out those frames, while for the movie the tv just doubled the frames it was given.

[–]Spillanya7 Teraflops | Native 5k 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same! I found that sitting further from the TV than I normally would and turning off all the lights helped a lot though.

[–]Verellici5-6600k 4.2GHz | MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Accurate

[–]TempestturnEddieAcefire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. " It's not on PC? Time to go on Twitch! Someone surely will stream it" /s

[–]etay080i5 4690, MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know this is a joke, but that's just not true.. Watching a gameplay is nothing like playing the game. Personally, I never watch gameplays when I want to buy a game because they simple bore me to death even if it is my favorite game.

[–]JespySpecs/Imgur Here 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (73子コメント)

I love my PS4 for its exclusives. Horizon Zero Dawn is amazing too. Played it for about 8 hours alone yesterday. Beautiful game, solid gameplay, and story is decent too. Worth it imo

[–]MentalFS4790K/980Ti[S] 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (5子コメント)

3 days ago I had never heard about this game and suddenly everyone is hyped. I'm going to watch it like an extra long movie.

[–]Frutesi5 6600k, 16 GB DDR4, RX480 8GB 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is he getting downvoted? He only said he didn't hear about it

[–]balls_of_wisdomi5 - 2400k | HD 6570 | 4 GB RAM 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was hooked the moment I saw its debut gameplay at e3 last year. Then interest earned after I heard about it being a normal 3rd person Far Cry, but after watching a couple of hours of gameplay and reading reviews I think that I'll really enjoy this game.

[–]Odin_ExodusAMD6300/GeForce770 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed man - spot on

[–]heydudejustasecMini ITX 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a no brainer to like great games that happen to be PS4 exclusives. It's also one thing to like the PS4 as a game playing device. But to say you love the PS4 because of the exclusives just sounds off to me. It seems to me that the PS4's only contribution to those games is not allowing you to play them on whatever platform you want. Is there anything else it adds to the games?

[–]ThisIsReLLiKi7 4770K | 16Gb RAM | 1070FTW 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (62子コメント)

Not worth $400+ for me, but it does look like a really fun game. I bought both the consoles last gen for exclusives and only touched them a handful of times, so I decided to just skip them this time. I am thinking about getting a switch though, that new zelda looks amazing.

[–]makobladei7 6700K | GTX 1080 SLI | 32GB DDR4 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's closer to $300 for a PS4 + Horizon, although you could have it for closer to $200 if you're diligent about used console sales.

Still questionable worth though.

[–]JespySpecs/Imgur Here 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Definitely not worthy of a console purchase for the game alone, but PS4 does have a nice selection of Exclusives. My wife mainly uses it for Netflix and whenever a game comes out for it I'll use it.

And yeah the new LoZ looks amazing. I really want it, but might wait a few months. Nintendo has always had a speciAl place in my heart because they're never really competing with PC and are off doing their own thing.

[–]Cubicle_Monkey_i5 4670k l RX 480 8GB 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (49子コメント)

Uncharted, TLOU, Kingdom Hearts, Bloodborne, Final Fantasy VII, Horizon Zero Dawn...

[–]SyntaxvgmASUS 1080, 5820k, other shit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

im glad to hear that, I think I'll get it once I've finished BOTW

[–]girlwithruinedteethi7 5820K, Fury X, 16GB 2133mhz, 750w Seasonic M12 II Evo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IT'd be the only reason for me to get a PS4, and I'm not paying 360$ to play just one game. Not worth.

[–]kikoanohttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198030475042 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its more like a free movie for us :D

[–]glasglow 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm really enjoying this game but all the time I keep thinking about what I could do with it if it was on PC instead. I desperately hope it gets ported to PC down the line but I know thats not exactly common...

[–]MechaAkuma 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I know console exclusives are frowned upon here but I see nothing wrong with getting the game for PS4. As someone who owns both a battlestation and a PS4 I think it's great that I can switch between both entertainment systems. Make no mistake - I'd love to rather play the game at 1440p 144 hz than on console and I do realize that my PS4 has nothing on my PC but part of being a PCMR is knowing what consoles are compared to PCs. I think a lot of people here are hypocrites when they are willing to spend 600 bucks on a GTX 1080 and are quick to throw shit at consoles when exclusives come out. You dont have to see this game on twitch. You can get it at a descent price. The PS4 is $230 - heck I got mine for $199 on Black Friday. And yes - games are 60 bucks but you can wait for their prices to drop (though I will adnit they dont go fown nearly as low or quick as PC games) This is a great game to get for the PS4 and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you're getting an you're happy with it. Don't get the pro though. It's a complete waste of money

[–]ValhundOmega[🍰] 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't see anything wrong with playing on whatever platform you chose. Because I love having choice. I am not anti-console and I basically have all of them anyway so exclusivity never really affects me.

But that is not to say I don't recognize an exclusive game for what it is - an arbitrary paywall designed to separate more money from people who love to play games.

An exclusive is never a positive thing for the consumer.

[–]ProfitOfRegret 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am not anti-console and I basically have all of them anyway so exclusivity never really affects me.

-100 PCMR points, better get another mechanical keyboard to make up for it.

[–]c1nehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/BMymWX 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

it better be RGB

[–]Violent_Bouncei7 7700k @5GHz | Sapphire R9 390 Nitro | 3000MHz DDR4 RAM 16GB 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As far as I'm concerned, so long as you have the money to buy the consoles and the games for them on top of keeping your PC updated whenever the need arises, I don't see why you wouldn't. I have an Xbox One and a pretty good PC, I plan on getting a PS4 so a.) I can play CoD 4 remaster with my brother, and b.) so I can play all the PS exclusives I have been wanting to play since they came out.

[–]GOGETA54i5 2500k | GTX 970 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because you support exclusives policy.

It's like everything, if you buy something you support it.

[–]Violent_Bouncei7 7700k @5GHz | Sapphire R9 390 Nitro | 3000MHz DDR4 RAM 16GB 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Drops in the bucket when half of this subreddit supports piracy. I see no point in boycotting exclusives when it doesn't and never will mean shit to the big corporations. If we can't get coroporations to see the importance of net neutrality, how are we ever going to convince them that something far less crucial such as exclusivity is in any way negative?

[–]kozeljkoi5 750 / R9 280x Toxic / 8GB RAM-1600 / 250GB SSD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not neccesarily hypocritical.

Sure, the 1080 will cost you twice as much, as the console + game, but you'll probably be using regularly. We are talking 100s (probably 1000+ if you're buying a 1080...) of hours.

But it's harder to justify buying a console for a single game, worth 20ish(what I heard) hours. Yes, you can use the ps4 for other great titles, but there's no guarantee that you'll ever touch the ps4 again, after you finish the game.

[–]Rippa-Splitta 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Maybe it's just me, but "watching" a game is boring IMO, what's the point? i'd rather wait until the game is released on pc, i buy the console, or we get a good emulator.

[–]DestructiveLemon 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same logic could he applied to watching sports, television, or anything for that matter.

Humans just like watching other humans do stuff. It's weird.

[–]bach37stradPentium g4400, Saphire rx 470 4gb, 8gb g-skill ddr4, 250gb cruci 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Humans just like watching other humans do stuff. It's weird.

Porn.

[–]BurnedBagels 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends on the game for me. If it's a story based game then I wouldn't watch but if it's a shooter or something I'd watch a really good player.

[–]henryletham 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Until this thread I legitimately had no idea people looked up and watched games from beginning to end instead of playing them. Such a weird thing...

[–]FireHazard11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only game I can kind of see it working for is The Last of Us since it's already basically a movie with some gameplay thrown in. For Horizon though you'd be missing out on some amazing gameplay if you just watched it.

[–]MistawondabreadGRAVITY FORCE RX 9480 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's entertaining and fun to watch people who are professionals play games like CSGO and Rocket League. It's the same reason people watch people play basketball or football, sure, I could go play those sports, but it's very entertaining to watch professionals play.

[–]ProfitOfRegret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It depends on who you're watching. I'm not watching Horizon Zero Dawn so much as I'm watching Boogie2988 play Horizon Zero Dawn.

I want to play it myself but not enough to justify a $60 purchase.

[–]AeitZeanCore i5-6500 | 8GB DDR4-2400 | MSI GTX 970 4GB | Samsung 850 Pro 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The way I approach exclusives is to not give Sony or microsoft any money. when the Next generation of consoles come out, a lot of people will sell their old console super cheap to pay for the new one. a month or two after the new generation is out I buy the old gen second hand and play the super cheap exclusives.

[–]alex98298Specs/Imgur here 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In all seriousness is the game good?

[–]GabernFormer peasant 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes.

[–]kozeljkoi5 750 / R9 280x Toxic / 8GB RAM-1600 / 250GB SSD 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm curious. Is there any real good explanation for the animal-like robots? People living in tribes, I get, but I the robots are an enigma. They look quite ridiculous, imo.

[–]FireHazard11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fucking great. It's basically Far Cry combined with Brave and robot dinosaurs.

The only downsides are that it's locked to 30 fps and that Aloy talks to herself way too fucking much.

[–]PillowTalk420FX-6300, GTX 1050 Ti, 8GB DDR3, 1TB Seagate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This accurately describes entire genres of video games right now. Games and game genres that seem to just be made for streaming and where far less entertainment is gained through people playing, than by people watching other people play it. Like those shittily-designed, independent jump-scare horror games where the shitty design is actually supposed to be part of their appeal.

[–]dinosawrsareawesome 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you think console exclusives suck now, they suck way more in the future. There are dozens of games I played on my xbox when I was younger I'd love to spin up now and again, but I can't, they were released on that console and died there.

There are so many old PC games worth playing, a huge library of titles with dedicated fan support and community patches or mods. This cannot happen to old console games, I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to play something like Dungeons and Dragons Heroes, but there's no community and its a massive pain to set up an old xbox for a few games, not to mention dealing with the horrible old controllers.

Regardless how popular this game is, in 5 years no one will be playing it, which is a dam shame.

[–]kuntslayer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This and Red Dead 2 are making me wanta drop 250 for a PS4....

[–]squidboat4790k/MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been playing the game, and I'm loving it. It's absolutely gorgeous. But for a large part of the time I'm playing it, I can only help but think how much better it would be on PC.

[–]hellol111Why are you here? 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (34子コメント)

This is where emulators come in handy.

[–]Verellici5-6600k 4.2GHz | MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (8子コメント)

IF there was a PS4 emulator.

[–]biggustdikkusLenovo ayY58lma0 ♪~ ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

That would kill it..

[–]Storm_Worm5364i7 4770k | STRIX 1080 A8G | 16GB 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It wouldn't. I'm certain that more than 90% of their sales don't come from PC players. And you would need an extremely powerful PC just to emulate games like TLOU on a PS4 emulator at 60fps. Power that we probably don't have at our disposal right now.

[–]sharkwouterI7 4970K, 16GB of ram and a GTX 970. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hard to say, I mean I can run some Windows games on Linux at full speed with Wine. Wine is pretty much an emulator.

[–]kousi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its own acronym would disagree!

[–]KaravuskHTC Vive owner - i7 5820k / r9 390x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There already is one but it definitely cant play games like that yet... give it a few years.

[–]JespySpecs/Imgur Here 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

In like 10 years

[–]LockerdFX-8350 16GB RAM Zotac GTX 980ti 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

after how Cytoix (s-eye-tow-ee because I just learned I was saying it wrong for years) has been working, it might not be an emulation, but instead a full freaking install.

I haven't checked up on it in months, but last I saw, he got a basic PS4 game running fine but only with AMD software and Hardware.

[–]disintegoresudo-intellectual 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

there is no need to emulate PS4 hardware. same instruction sets, same GPU tech. and some hackers have proved that AMD's Linux drivers work almost as-is on it, with full 3D acceleration potential.

but to get games running involves replacing a metric fuckton of proprietary middleware and APIs that Sony is keeping under locks and will never let anybody reverse engineer. any such endeavor would be equal to the Wine project in scope, but even harder to accomplish and most likely bombarded with frivolous lawsuits. at least, with Microsoft Windows, you have access to a hefty amount of public documentation.

10 years strikes me as an optimistic estimation.

I have never heard of this Cytoix fellow and Google brings up nothing.

[–]LockerdFX-8350 16GB RAM Zotac GTX 980ti 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know what he calls himself now, but he did cool shit, not just the PS4 emulation bit.

The only good thing about his project, is the OrbisOS 1.8 (release PS4 OS) has more flexibility. I don't know what he did to make it work I'm not close to that kind of intelligent

[–]ImNotATexani7-6700k@4.6, MSI GTX1080 Seahawk X, 32 GB DDR4-3200, Win10 Pro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't even have a working 360 or PS3 emulator and it's been 12. Even N64 emulator has issues still.

[–]Generic_Green_SquidSoon... 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Not trying to come across as a jerk, but why are people here only excited to wait 10+ years to find a way to play a great game through emulators? What's wrong with owning both a PC AND another current console? It always goes like this here:

A great exclusive game that I really want to own and I can easily obtain with a system is coming out? Can't wait to wait 10+ years for a stable emulator and miss out on a great game bcuz fuck Sony guys amirite?

[–]hellol111Why are you here? 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you read the wiki, you would've known how fucked up the console market is. Developers sell away their souls because Sony/Microsoft offers them financial support so that they can develop for their expensive platform. Better to not buy the console and give them the extra profits.

[–]heydudejustasecMini ITX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people don't like the idea of buying a product they don't otherwise want just because it's arbitrarily holding some games hostage. In fact that's all the more reason to not support it.

[–]Dissentienthttp://i.imgur.com/pQBKSnm.jpg 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's wrong with owning both a PC AND another current console?

By buying a console to play hostage exclusive games, you are voting with your wallet in favor of more games being made exclusive in order to sell consoles.

It's not an issue for me to afford a console, I simply don't want to own any of them because I don't need them for their hardware, and playing games on a console will be inconvenient, and a strictly worse experience for me.

I'd rather wait for 10 years or never get to play those games than support what I hate with my money.

[–]fuckyourmothershit2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have this mindset, too. I want more games to come to the PC platform and people buying an entire console just for a few exclusives is making the situation worse.

[–]xxx_MrHD_xxx 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Would you consider PC exclusive "hostages" to the platform?

[–]Dissentienthttp://i.imgur.com/pQBKSnm.jpg 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, for several reasons.

Games that require keyboard and mouse generally don't belong on consoles. You can release such a game on consoles, but almost no one will play it.

Games that require powerful hardware to run decently, though there are not that many of those.

For indies, developing and publishing games for consoles is way more of a PITA than on PC. For PS4 you need a development kit that costs over $2K (xbox doesn't need that), and there's way more bureaucracy involved in releasing than on PC.

There's a difference between not releasing a game on a platform because you got paid to do so and not releasing a game on a platform because it makes no sense or you just don't have the resources to do it.

For AAA games it pretty much never makes sense to not release on all major platforms since the cost of porting a game will be small compared to the cost of the rest of the game, and compared to potential revenue from an entire platform.

[–]xxx_MrHD_xxx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Surely the devs that accept payment to keep their game on one platform are doing it out of the guarantee of economic stability. It makes financial sense in the same way an indie dev not developing for console does.

[–]sharkwouterI7 4970K, 16GB of ram and a GTX 970. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What games are hostage on PC? I don't think I know any developers who get money from Microsoft to only release on PC.

[–]MarvelMasterAthlon X4 860K, GTX 750 Ti FTW 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

???

[–]H_O_T_S_H_O_Ti5 6500 / GTX 1060 6GB 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Top right...

[–]MarvelMasterAthlon X4 860K, GTX 750 Ti FTW 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know I just don't understand please help :(

[–]Guptinahttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Guptina/ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP doesn't own a PS4 or has no intention of buying one just to play this game. Only way to experience it is to watch other people play on Twitch

[–]BananaGuyyyShit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP does not have a PS4.

OP can only experience the game by watching other people play it on Twitch.

[–]QuantumElectronicsDui5-2500 / GTX 750 Ti / 8GB 1600 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically:

A lot of these console exclusives are playable movies. Great stories that use gameplay as a secondary thing to get you engaged in the story, and once the story's over there's no point in playing anymore.

Not worth buying a console just for that game, when you can get just as much out of it just by watching a playthrough of it.

[–]G07H1K447 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP might be joking but im seriously just now getting a friends PS4 so i can stream the game on Twitch and then ill return it to him. :D

[–]critialerrorPowered by a bunch load of satire, a 4790K, and a GTX970 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can anyone explain this joke to me ? For my initial thought was that there is nothing is on the disk and it is a game that is only streamed to you ( like OnLive cloud streaming gaming )

[–]LlohrXeon E3-1240 V5, Geforce 1070, 32GB ECC RAM 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The joke is he'll never play it, only watch it on twitch.

[–]Ziakel4770k||1080 FTW|16gb ram||3440x1440||100hz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shame that it's not on PC. I'd buy it day 1 and enjoy it at its maximum glory. Can't spend that money on a ps4 pro when ryzen and 1080ti is around the corner :(

[–]heydudejustasecMini ITX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This might get confusing in a bit given that Twitch just announced they'll be selling games.

[–]pcer95 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i almost want to buy a ps4 for this game, but it is not worth it

[–]Marsmar-LordofMarsAscended from laptop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what Youtube channel do you watch your console exclusives on?

[–]Degrui5 2400, Radeon 7870, 16GB RA. Degru on Steam, Degru01 on Origin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the one recent console exclusive I really really want to play. The world and story are really interesting to me.

Hopefully there will be some good quality playthroughs of it up soon after release.

[–]Dynamexi5-6600K@4.5GHz | GTX 960 | 16GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The game looks really good.

Shitty that it gets held hostage by 1 out of 3 gaming platforms.

[–]Darkbg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But DayZ had such an unique experience, that the PS4's only contribution to those games is not to mention dealing with the flaws just to get out of.

[–]slayer214 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love my PC, but this game on my PS4 Pro and LG B6 OLED is fricking gorgeous.

[–]TartdreadTartDread 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At this point I don't even pay attention to console exclusives.

[–]daograndeFX-4300 @ 4.4 Ghz | RX 480 4G | 8GB RAM 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I keep a PS4 around for the exclusives, I actually got it just to play Bloodborne back when that came out.

[–]thomiesp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comments like these are why people hate consoles.

[–]buballoo1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regardless how popular this game is incredible and there is a joke, but that's just not true..

[–]DamaxXIV 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why I finally caved and bought a PS4 in addition to my gaming rig. While I always say to myself, "This would be better on PC..." consoles now have a decent library of exclusives and I was sick of missing out on excellent games.

[–]dec1mushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/DEC1MUS 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have it and am Playing it on PS4 Pro at "4K".

There are some substantial framedrops here and there but overall it's a good experience. And you can drop it to 1080 and get higher FPS if you wish.

I also have a high powered PC of course, but this game is truly stunning and a helluva lot of fun.

[–]HeavyChair 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exclusives make me sad. I have Helldivers on PC...so none of my Xbox friend will ever know.

[–]sevenw1nters 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was watching Boogie stream this and every time he mentioned his Playstation or controller or something chat would go wild.

"You're playing this on PLAYSTATION LUL"

"A CONTROLLER!?"

"Why not play this on PC, Boogie?"

I don't think they realized it's a PS4 exclusive.

But honestly guys, if you can justify spending $700 on a graphics card or some shit what's $230 for something that can play Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 1-4, Last of Us and more?

[–]ToaOfBaconA10-7850K GTX970 OC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a big fan of Robota, this only being on PS4 makes me very sad.

[–]Afroraptor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yet this game is the reason I bought a PS4.

[–]Kirbyforever 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thankfully I have Zelda to play in 2 days. So hyped for that game. Which by the way for those interested is may eventually work on Cemu if you play the Wii U version.

[–]calirollsi5 6500, GTX 1060 6GB 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is it actually? Last time I checked the closest people have gotten so far in CEMU is the main menu (trying to actually load the game crashes the emulator) , but if that's the case, then I'm really excited!

[–]xepictiger13x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a PCMR member with a ps4 as well, HZD is a fantastic game with great visuals, solid story, and amazing gameplay. Wish I could play it on my PC, the RGBs would surely make it run better.

[–]noodleslipWoBbLy sausage 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitch has killed so many games for me, not that it's a bad thing. I wanted to play the new resident evil, but ended up watching it on twitch. That satisfied my itch and I didn't even have to pay 60 bucks for it.

I'm okay with watching more games than I play these days.

[–]AmityAfflicted\ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My ps4 is my exclusive machine for rare moments like this.

[–]InquisitorszPC Master Race 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What other people see: PS4 Exclusive
What I see: Nothing, couldn't care less about a console exclusive

[–]philosophicalturd69 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Soon to be Read Dead Redemption 2.