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[–]legalindia 68 points69 points70 points  (5 children)
Why are they still called students. Why not just throw them out?
[–]pehchaan_kaun 65 points66 points67 points  (1 child)
Delhi Police can't stand up to ABVP goons, remember when they beat up people in court.
[–]f42e479dfde22d8c 23 points24 points25 points  (0 children)
Delhi Police are goons. Why would they stand up to their own kin?
[–]donoteatthatfrogPublic memory is short. -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
Forgot Rohit ?
[–]omichandralekha 56 points57 points58 points  (17 children)
I live in US. But I am scared to share anything against the 'mass' so that tomorrow some 20-50 people dont find out my locality from facebook and pelt stones at my parents back home.
[–]Not_a_kulcha 40 points41 points42 points  (0 children)
Pretty much the whole problem. They've stockpile of goondas ready to bully any criticism be it in comment section or in real life.
[–]budbuk 10 points11 points12 points  (2 children)
Unless you build a trebuchet to throw boulders back. Then we are talking.
[–]mielcal 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
He should if he wants to throw a 90 kg mass over 300 meters.
[–]omichandralekha 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
lol this is great
[–]shakepear 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
This is the saddest thing I've read on Reddit in a while.
[–]ribiyVadra Lao Desh Bachao 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
Be careful friend.
Also don't go out to pubs in US. Be safe.
[–]lightbrownsemisolid 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
I just went out with my wife and returned at 4 AM walking. In India is it possible ?
[–]ribiyVadra Lao Desh Bachao 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Depends upon the city and part of the city.
Like everywhere, including NY and London.
[–]disc0-dancer 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
I live near north campus. I am scared when I see this Please tell me what to do?
[–]SouthieSaar 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
I wonder if they are violent.
If they are, then patli gali se katle boss.
[–]omichandralekha 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I really like to see and know both faces....thanks for this link,,makes situation clear
[–]scoreblairUniverse 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
hearts melting and tears rolling down my cheek.
[–]vikaslohiaUniverse 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Do not worry. People say shit about them Day in and Day out. Nothing happens. We even abuse their top leaders in worst form of language. I live in India in middle of this RWs, they are just stupidly emotional and gullible people. So feel free whatever u wanna say.
[–]donoteatthatfrogPublic memory is short. -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Valid concern
[–]pehchaan_kaun 56 points57 points58 points  (4 children)
Here we have a clear video of ABVP goons assaulting people, don't worry Delhi Police won't take action. Party is above the nation.
[–]viksiJivey Jivey Kejriwal 28 points29 points30 points  (2 children)
In 2015 there were videos of the Delhi policemen beating up women students because they chanted anti modi slogans and not one FIR was filed. Not much has happened on the JNU cases and bjp men beating up kanhaiya kumar inside the Delhi high court under police custody.
An AAP municipal councellor was beaten up during a council meeting under media cameras and an FIR hasn't been filed so far despite the victim being a public representative.
I can only hope something happens this time.
[–]raks1991South America 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
At most, they will be "suspended" for a few days, which translates to paid holiday in government jobs. Otherwise, they'll just be posted to another area.
[–]viksiJivey Jivey Kejriwal 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Remember when ramdev bhakts were beaten up at ramleela ground and someone died due to the unconstitutional crackdown in the middle of the night? do you know how many cops have been fired for that ? .... ZERO
Different government , same shitty cops. Ye bik gai hai gormint!
[–]WhatsTheBigDeal 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Well, they aren't AAP MLAs...
[–]assholeness 16 points17 points18 points  (4 children)
It's the students who voted for these goons in DUSU elections. I hope they remember this and their past incidents when they vote next time.
[–]I_DONT_LIE_MUCH 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
I have a few friends who work and have further friends involved in DU politics.
Take this with a grain of salt but they are stating that there was a voter fraud done by ABVP, also how some ABVP worker was caught carrying bags into the counting centre on camera.
I can't really trust how valid these claims were as they came from the opposition.
[–]random_account1124 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
These allegations are made after every election. I was in DU when NSUI won most of the posts and then ABVP guys were claiming fraud.
[–]viksiJivey Jivey Kejriwal 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
only one party had both money and the central government's backing.
[–]samacharbot2 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
Video of ABVP member Diksha Verma assaulting AISA President Sucheta De goes viral, she'd earlier alleged molestation
  • One of the defining pictures of the fracas at Ramjas College, Delhi, where ABVP members assaulted students of AISA, SFI and other student unions was that of an ABVP activist Diksha Verma who was clicked swinging her hand at another student.
  • The image went viral and she later alleged that she went on the offensive as she was being molested.
  • However, now a video of Diksha Verma punching AISA National President Sucheta De in her face without any apparent provocation has gone viral on social media.
  • In the above video, Diksha Verma can be seen walking towards Sucheta De and swinging a punch at her and then walking away as Sucheta De reacts with surprise and pain.
  • This unprovoked attack captured on video have put her earlier allegations in a shadow of doubt.
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[–]DoDraper 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
ABVP keeping up best with in what they have been so proficient since their birth. Ban them, or beat the shit out then already. You can't be tolerant with intolerants all the time.
[–]charavaka 10 points11 points12 points  (5 children)
MRA bhakts are a confused lot right now. Do they stand up for the molested guy, or do they support Akhil Bharatiya Violence Parishad?
[–]random_account1124 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
MRA bhakts are a confused lot right now. Do they stand up for the molested guy, or do they support Akhil Bharatiya Violence Parishad?
Both were women.
[–]charavaka 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
Read the report before responding FFS - there's a pic of the same ABVP woman beating crap out of a guy. She claimed she was beating him up for having molested her.
[–]random_account1124 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
I only watched the video where she was beating the woman.
[–]charavaka 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
And yet, you're in a thread of a post that shows the pic of her beating a guy (and then a report of her defending it by accusing him of having molested her) before getting to the video of her hitting a woman. That's why, I said, read the fucking report before commenting on others' responses or the report.
[–]random_account1124 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Man, the headline said video so I went straight to video before the image finished loading. I don't read the text in such articles because 99% of the time it has nothing substantive and mostly paraphrases what is in the video.
[–]indiajinIndia 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
हे राम।
[–]scoreblairUniverse 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Hey Shyam!
[–]bad_joke_maker 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
But ABVP wins. Hence, everyone is happy. These proofs prove nothing.
[–]miguel-styxWest Bengal 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) (translation: All Indian Student Council) is a Hindu nationalist all India student organisation affiliated to the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). It is one of the largest student organizations with more than 3 million members.
Of course this shit happens to them.
[–]disc0-dancer 8 points9 points10 points  (21 children)
4 seconds of video that shows nothing on what happened before she advanced.
Posted by a guy who calls himself the "Admin of TruthOfGujarat"
I don't support violence but c'mon guys. Can we atleast post non-partisan sources?
[–]phone_throw12Chhattisgarh 14 points15 points16 points  (7 children)
Now site maintained by one of the most prominent human rights activist have become partisian . The bottom line should be is it fake news or not
[–]phone_throw12Chhattisgarh 8 points9 points10 points  (3 children)
As kanhaiya said in his famous speech , Bastar , Kashmir wants Azadi in India not azadi from India .
It's a question of fundamental rights guaranteed by Constitution to all of us . If you are so concerned about nationa then you should also be concerned about the rapes and fake encounter going on in Bastar . You are just a hypocrite otherwise
[–]disc0-dancer 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
As kanhaiya said in his famous speech , Bastar , Kashmir wants Azadi in India not azadi from India .
Usne kaha aue aapne maan liya?
If you are so concerned about nationa then you should also be concerned about the rapes and fake encounter going on in Bastar
I care a lot about tribal rights, the rapes and the encounters and the land grabbing. But how is calling Kashmiri separatists and terrorists like Burhan Wani "freedom fighters" going to solve tribal issues?
You are falling for their excuses. The whole plank of tribal rights is just a cover, their real motives can be seen here
The oppression of tribals in Bastar and surrounding areas has nothing to do with the terrorism in Kashmir. Please do not mix two very different things.
[–]ribiyVadra Lao Desh Bachao -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
The link you provided should shut up all logical and consentious people.
At the cost of repetition I will highlight it again.
He praised Wani for his bravery and said, “Burhan wasn’t scared of death, he was scared of a life lived in subjugation. He detested it. He lived a free man, died a free man ….
This is the Aazadi Umar and his sheep shout about. Are we so foolish that we support these terrorist sympathisers and supporters? Can't we see beyond the propoganda? Beats me.
[–]disc0-dancer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
True believers won't let anything shake their faith. For them, everything is doctored anyways.
[–]SouthieSaar 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Can you please tell me how many times has the word "kashmir" been used in that entire duration?
[–]raks1991South America 5 points6 points7 points  (10 children)
Are these partisan sources doctoring videos? Was the ABVP leader punching someone enacted in the same studio which faked the moon landings?
[–]raks1991South America 6 points7 points8 points  (7 children)
A few of those were also found to be doctored.
[–]disc0-dancer 1 point2 points3 points  (6 children)
Yeah, just 2 of them.
What is your opinion on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYbs_RcDXA
Do you think its doctored?
[–]raks1991South America 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Two doctored videos proves that these right wing fanatics will go to any lengths to spread hatred.
The video you posted doesn't look doctored. Although it's nothing that the government needs to get paranoid and butthurt about.
[–]o_OO_oo_OO_o 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
Just?? Did you use "just" for something that shameless and morally corrupt act which was used to declare people as anti-nationalist and what not? What if the mob had murdered those people? Would you say "They just stopped breathing, nothing else to see here". Why the fuck your fucking party is above basic sensible things!!
[–]Fluttershy_qtest 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
I don't think it's a good idea to encourage separatist violence in Kashmir, and sympathizing with terrorists is a really bad idea in general; violence rarely achieves anything in an asymmetric conflict.
However - if someone non-violently advocates for the freedom of Kashmir, is it a good idea to clamp down on that ? It looks horrible from an outsider PoV. And it's a human rights violation; something quite a few Indians don't particularly care about (unless it's the rights of hindutvavadis of course).
And yet the BJP is allied with them. If the BJP wants to be consistent, shouldn't it oppose this too and abandon the alliance ?
[–]disc0-dancer 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
sympathizing with terrorists is a really bad idea in general
But that's exactly what Umar Khalid has done. I posted the same thing before.
if someone non-violently advocates for the freedom of Kashmir, is it a good idea to clamp down on that ?
The demand for freedom for Kashmir is almost about using non-violent means. Kashmir ki azadi means just one thing: overpower the indian army through force and establish a sovereign Islamic state. And that is assuming they won't simply go and join Pakistan.
No sane state would allow something like that to happen.
And it's a human rights violation
Even the constitution doesn't give you absolute no-holds-barred rights. They are subject to reasonable restrictions. Speech inciting violence is criminalised in India, like it or not.
If the BJP wants to be consistent, shouldn't it oppose this too and abandon the alliance ?
The BJP are opportunists, like all other political parties. We are debating a larger issue here, let's not get caught up in party politics.
[–]Fluttershy_qtest 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
It's not a good idea to sympathize with terrorists, but how you handle that is what differentiates a matured democracy from an authoritarian shithole and everything in between.
Typically most western countries put people who do this on surveillance, but that's about it. If you start to jail people for thought crimes and what they say you open yourself to being a country that doesn't care too much about human rights.
The problem in India is that this goes far beyond laws - not just political parties but society itself values the emotions and pride (or honor) of a community over an individual. This is partly what makes India a backwards nation.
The demand for freedom for Kashmir is almost about using non-violent means.
This is simply not true. There are lots of Kashmiri Muslims who either want greater autonomy or freedom without any terrorism. India has been unable to engage moderates in Kashmir, and the BJP has tried to throttle the very reasonable farooq and Omar abdullah side of Kashmiri politics just to win elections.
Speech inciting violence is criminalised in India, like it or not.
Yes, India as a society probably isn't ready for total free speech. But this mentality gets misused - as seen with JNU, and with the likes of Mamata Banerjee.
I hope you realise these sedition laws were instituted by the British to try and muzzle Indian freedom fighters:
No sane state would allow something like that to happen.
No, referendums for independence and mostly non violent freedom movements achieved through compromise are extremely common.
Was Kanhaia and Umar Khalid advocating or inciting violence ? Simply sympathising with separatism doesn't necessarily count as actionable sedition. What Burhan Wahni did is - so there is an important distinction here.
The BJP narrative is to club everyone that is opposed to their stance on Kashmir anti national; unless of course they belong to the PDP.
[–]disc0-dancer 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
In an "authoritarian shithole", people like Umar Khalid would simply have disappeared and never been found again. The fact that a guy who actually hates the current party in power and everything it stands for, speaks for the state to be dismantled; is studying in a government-funded university and living in the national capital should be proof enough that we are nowhere near an authoritarian shithole. Some people really take this country for granted.
Evey state that wishes to survive needs to deal with threats against it. No state or government can continue if it allows violent separatists to continue unchecked.
not just political parties but society itself values the emotions and pride (or honor) of a community over an individual. This is partly what makes India a backwards nation.
Valuing the collective over the individual doesn't make you backward. Why must you equate every conservative value with being "backward"?(which by itself is an extremely loaded term)
I hope you realise these sedition laws were instituted by the British to try and muzzle Indian freedom fighters:
I am fully aware of that. That doesn't mean that they are completely useless.
Was Kanhaia and Umar Khalid advocating or inciting violence ?
Did they not support the jihadis of Kashmir?
The BJP narrative is to club everyone that is opposed to their stance on Kashmir anti national; unless of course they belong to the PDP.
Again, this is not about parties but the larger picture.
[–]charavaka -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Since they know zee tv did it in their favour, they think their opponents do the same.
[–]lightbrownsemisolid 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
If you don't support violence, why do you support that mass murderer modi?
[–]azfun123 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
He used to maintain the website. Now his son Pratik Sinha maintains it.
[–]FauladiSingh 5 points6 points7 points  (8 children)
Meanwhile here is a video immediately before things turned violent that day. Notice how AISA/SFI are on one side and ABVP on the other with Police acting preventing the two from clashing. Now watch around timestamp 15sec how the AISA/SFI guy pulls in an ABVP guy (blue pullover with 33 written on back) and then pounce on him thrashing him. It is then that it becomes a free for all.
So no, my dear comrade, as much as you guys might want to prove that ABVP started the violence while AISA/SFI people calmly got beaten, it was AISA/SFI who started the violence by thrashing an ABVP guy.
[–]awkward_pause_ 14 points15 points16 points  (1 child)
The video to be frank doesn't proof anything.
[–]UnmukthBharo maang meri bharo 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Proves something about OP !
[–]clanlordMaharashtra 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
lol
[–]tempstem5 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
Being this devoted.
[–]SouthieSaar 8 points9 points10 points  (2 children)
Good. Fauladi Singh has produced sound evidence proving that ABVP is innocent while the rest of them started this fracas. Based on this, Ramjas should be shut down, students should be suspended and not allowed to study.
Bharat Mata ki Jai. Jai Hind.
[–]FauladiSingh -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Misplaced sarcasm doesn't help anyone. If you bother going through my comment history, I have no qualms in accepting that ABVP often indulges in violence. Only that I am baffled by left's assertion of them being victims of violence. The way a clash between SFI/AISA and ABVP has been spun into 'ABVP attacks Ramjas students' not just shows a total lack of understanding of DU politics but is also mischievous.
[–]random_account1124 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Based on this, Ramjas should be shut down, students should be suspended and not allowed to study.
There were outsiders and Ramjas students on both sides. The fight was AISA vs ABVP, not Ramjas students vs ABVP.
[–]lightbrownsemisolid 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Looks the ABVP guy was let go by the cops so he could fuck some shit up and got beaten up. And looks like ABVP was trying to beat up those women before the start of the video, and the cops pulled them back.
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    [–]6times9is42Ye bik gayi hai Gormint!!! 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Bhaari chutyaap diye ho bhai.
    [–]sciencestudent99 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Kabhi engineering college main aisa hota dekha hain?
    [–]lolwatrollwaHaryana 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    What a great new generation of kids we've raised.
    [–]aerozepplin 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Make sure these guys don't come to power next time. Organizations who spew hate and violence have no right to exist. Voting them out of power is the best way to counter them.
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      [–]charavaka 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Inb4 "taking a few such stray actions to portray such incidents of violence is a consistent pattern with BJP or the govt would be quite the stretch."
      Nevermind JNU, UoH, etc.
      [–]Chuttad_Singh 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Got turned on by that.
      [–]nuc23Universe -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Women empowerment
      [–]clanlordMaharashtra -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      BC college me kuch timepass karne ke liye time nahi rehta tha... lectures aur assignment me saal nikal gaye..
      [–]perplexedm -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
      Women false accusing ? No, that never happen.
      Adding another number to molestation, rape counts on India, vilifying Indian men.
      Standard operating procedure folks, nothing to see here, move along.
      [–]Krantikaari -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      Desi Fight Club
      [–][deleted]  (14 children)
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        [–]_logic-bomb_ 33 points34 points35 points  (3 children)
        Kyun be? I'll say whatever I want to. Let the law do its job. Who the fuck is ABVP?
        [–]pehchaan_kaun 23 points24 points25 points  (2 children)
        They are state sponsored goons to enforce BJP ideology, kind of like a watered down version of the SS, don't worry they'll soon reach the level where they can kill people with impunity.
        [–]Roy_Mustang2 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
        Except they wear chuddies instead of cool looking blazers
        [–]charavaka 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        Khaki Chaddis have graduated to brown full pants. Probably because of inability of hiding stains in khaki chaddis.
        [–]Glorious_Comrade 26 points27 points28 points  (1 child)
        BEST CULTURE BEST RELIGION BEST COUNTRY BEST DIVERSITY.
        Only if you agree exactly with us, otherwise fuck off. Also, we will define culture, religion, country and diversity. We will also define who doesn't get to define anything.
        I can totally get behind such inclusive nationalism that is obviously going to benefit me if I join up, and is never going to infringe on my and my family's personal freedoms and human rights in the name of patriotism. Never.
        [–]_dexter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Clearly, they are so liberal. Aren't they the best?
        [–]jasounseebourne 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
        So now we live in a world where the law is enforced by random political parties and their goons? Good to know. Come back with this argument when it's not your party that is at the receiving end. We will see where these "morals" go at that time.
        [–]f42e479dfde22d8c 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
        But these guys already have the law in their pockets. Why not unleash their pet dogs from the police upon them instead? Then throw them into jail as undertrials for 40 years. At least they'll have some shield about following due process rather than being called out for being the absolute goons that they are?
        [–]omichandralekha 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        What a lowly character, guess you dont want to talk about the angle who doctored the videos last year with fake slogans (for a clue, look here: http://archive.catchnews.com/politics-news/did-shilpi-tewari-doctor-the-kanhaiya-video-what-are-her-links-with-smriti-irani-1457030419.html)
        [–]Mycroft-TarkinTelangana 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Kek
        [–]GoldPisseR 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        Then convict them as the law deems fit.
        How can anyone ever justify assault?
        [–]Glorious_Comrade 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Edit: keep downvoting me lefties and commies
        Triggerus Maximus
        Kek I love how these retards take pride in "triggering" people online, when all else fails. Just because you called others "lefties" and "commies" doesn't automatically validate your weak and indefensible argument. No one really thinks you're cool for being le edgy.
        [–]disc0-dancer 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        I diagree.
        We have the law, we have the cops. Throw the book at them. There is absolutely no need for ABVP people running amok beating up people.
        [–]Gareeb_Guy comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (4 children)
        I vow to slap anyone who'd raise anti-India slogan.. 😂 ✌
        [–]Keerikkadan91[S] 9 points10 points11 points  (3 children)
        Azadi, azadi, Kerala mange azadi.
        [–]scoreblairUniverse -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        ok
        [–]Gareeb_Guy comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (0 children)
        Define : Azadi?
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