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DiscussionCongratulations /r/LeftWithoutEdge subscribers! According to /r/LateStageCapitalism, we are all Official Reactionary Enemies and will be autobanned accordingly! (self.LeftWithoutEdge)

Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist が 投稿

See proof here: https://archive.fo/mZmLB

Yes, we are apparently just like /r/AltRight and /r/NationalSocialism in how reactionary we are, say the petty authoritarians at /r/LateStageCapitalism.

Apparently, according to /u/MiG-15, "Over 1,000 karma combined from the subs on the list and it's an auto ban. Even without the 1,000 karma, mods can and do ping the bot and ban based on what they see." So watch out, you might get banned if any of their mods find out you've posted here.

Yet another example of "tankies going power-mad and banning anyone that even politely disagrees with them". This thread is open for discussion.

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[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S,M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (1子コメント)

We're getting a light brigading here tonight, folks. Just so you know. Weather report doesn't call for much heavier, but bring a downvote umbrella just in case.

[–]pizzaiolo_ 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (17子コメント)

That's sincerely baffling. I'm no stranger to left in-fighting, but that's really strange. Pity, I like both subs.

[–]SnugglerificCrypto-anarchist 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm surprised I'm not banned yet for having posted in shit tankies say.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait until they see this thread, lol.

[–]DeefianState Socialist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's on the banlist too, so it's only a matter of time.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, they might not ban you if you do a sort of Stalinist-style renunciation of us and all that we stand for (not being mega edgy).

I do solemnly swear...

Bonus points if you talk about the undying evil and counter-revolutionary fervor of us mods!

[–]sophandros 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Left in-fighting bothers me now more than ever.

Look, we will always have policy disagreements. That's what happens when you have a big tent, idealistic worldview.

We shouldn't burn the tent down over these disagreements, because we have a much bigger problem facing all of us.

[–]jadedctrl 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Waiting for the /r/LastStage ban... I'll miss that sub, but not too much.

[–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I miss what it once was. Or at least the impression I once had of what it was.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tankies ruin anything that threatens to make people like socialism. They just can't accept it. If people start liking socialism then maybe it won't be an exclusive club for the ultra-purists who read mostly unintelligible tomes from the 1800s, and then how will they brag to their friends on the Internet? It's not like changing the world matters compared to being the most pure leftist, after all.

[–]teaoverlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If people start liking socialism then maybe it won't be an exclusive club for the ultra-purists who read mostly unintelligible tomes from the 1800s

r/socialism bans people who post on /r/Ultraleft so it's not even safe for them

[–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking exfuckingactly.

[–]lvl99SkrubRekker 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a terrific post.

[–]1_narchy_plsAncom 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a shame such a big leftist subreddit that reaches the front page often is run so poorly.

[–]shamwu 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to link lsc capitalism to all my friends. Now I don't want to encourage the moderators/be reminded of my banned status. :/

[–]CirqueDuFuder 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What is there to miss from that place?

[–]riemann1413seize the memes of production 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

i've seen some p good memes

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's undoubtedly some zesty memes there. Unfortunately, lately the Assad apologism and shit like that has been making me feel like when I see some rats and roaches scurry out of the kitchen that just made my tasty dinner.

[–]SirNeonanarcho-communist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just surprised it took them this long.

[–]Xoboo 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Man I got banned from a commie sub because a mod basically said I couldn't be critical of leftist relations with Aboriginal peoples...like as an Aboriginal person and communist I apparently have to think that 100% of those on the left are right 100% of the time when it comes to how they treat us.

[–]SnugglerificCrypto-anarchist 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (12子コメント)

It seems like everyone across the board is pretty shitty on indigenous rights. :/

[–]Xoboo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Like my original comment wasn't even that the left is making 0 effort or anything like that. I just said that a fraction of a percent of people on the left are what is now labelled SJW but that the right tries to make it seem like their the majority. An example might be someone new to politics (as most of them are young and still learning) might give the old "omg Natives are so oppressed. They are literally constant victims of the white people and they need ME to defend them. Oh, you disagree? Well you just suffer from internalized racism" speech. I'm actually generally pleased with the support socialists are giving the current water crisis and many of them seem to be trying to tackle the problem from an Aboriginal perceptive even if they aren't always doing it perfectly (but who is perfect lol).

Anyways the mod ended up calling me a 'model minority' that the conservatives and liberals period around as the good kind of Indian.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I hear a lot about random hipsters and white kids trying to take control over the DAPL situation from the elders, who know their shit and have a great strategy already (won through decades of hard lessons). That infuriates me: it's their land, their water, their protest, what are these outsiders doing trying to call the shots?

[–]Xoboo 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Those are the exact people I was trying to talk about! It's so paternalistic to try and be a champion of any minority unless you're art of it.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What exactly is a person to do then? Obviously calling you a model minority if you disagree with me is racist as fuck, but what if someone is just trying to be supportive of a situation?

[–]BancBlancPart-time LARPer 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's made it pretty clear in his posts that he appreciates the support most people have shown for the affected communities. He was criticizing the prats who have developed a savior complex and who feel they must 'guide' those affected by imposing their own solution. I seriously doubt he's targeting those who have been trying to aid in a constructive manner.

[–]Bluntforce9001Socialist-ish 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the white man's burden all over again

[–]Xoboo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes like /u/bancblanc said one just has to realize that unless you've lived a certain situation you can never truly understand it. I can sympathize with the Black people and as an Aboriginal I've maybe had similar treatment in some way but I'll never completely understand their unique experience. So if I want to offer help to their cause I need to ask them what needs to be done and not just assume that I already know and/or am more capable of doing something.

One Black woman writer (perhaps someone can help me remember her name) once spoke about the pro-choice movement. While the movement is about the right for a mother to choose it mostly focuses on abortion rights. However Black and Aboriginal women have historically struggled just to keep their babies who are/have been often taken away through various means. While she thought abortions should be safe and legal she also thought that the pro-choice movement was caught up only in what was most important to white women.

Another example is NODAPL. First of all I love that people seem to be finally standing behind us but...the situation is one that fits the stereotypical 'wow Natives sure love nature'. When there was Idle No More, Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women, the water crisis up north (which was about drinking water not nature water) there was much less support. I don't say that to chastise those who are offering support now, to be fair since the news didn't report much people didn't always know about those things, I'm just saying we need to look critically as to why this movement got so much support and then look on how to continue supporting the community once NODAPL is over.

Also, as a side note, there is probably a pow wow near you that is open to the public (in fact most pow wows are public) and that is a great way to support reserves and Aboriginal peoples financially and culturally. You get to watch great dances, eat some amazing food (try the Indian tacos) and buy some cool handmade products.

[–]ThinkMinty 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Support means support. You're there to help, not to lead.

[–]CountGrasshopper 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

God that is some condescending bullshit.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right?

[–]Xoboo 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep at first I was only a little put off but the more I thought about it I actually got a little angry. I thought it was just a reactionary teenager given too much mod power...but then I realized that all the other mods could see it and didn't do anything about his obvious racism.

Anyways now I use this sub instead :D

[–]ThinkMinty 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As far as I know as a lefty, the thing to do with aboriginal people is to listen rather than assuming I know more than you about your own problems.

[–]-jute- 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry to hear about that patronizing treatment. I guess these subs (or maybe just that mod) really just wanted to use you to be able to claim to be "inclusive" while actually not caring about Aboriginal people all that much at all. :(

[–]Malevolent_USB_DriveUphold Marxist-Varoufakisism 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Oh wow I guess I'm a reactionary now?

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (11子コメント)

On this blessed day we are all Official Reactionaries, according to the deniers of the Holodomor and the promoters of Saint Bashar al-Assad, Fighter of American Imperialism.

[–]InOranAsElsewhereanarchist communist | veganarchist 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (8子コメント)

The Assad apologia was... odd? Unexpected in an expected kind of way? Not sure.

[–]portodhamma 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There's a Trotskyist party in Italy that's endorsed ISIS's struggle against imperialism. Things get fucky with democratic centralism.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Any English-language link for that? Sounds seriously amusing.

[–]portodhamma 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I couldn't find exactly what I was referring to, but here's the ICL's statement of support of ISIS: http://www.icl-fi.org/english/wv/1055/isis.html

[–]ThinkMinty 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I...what? ISIS is a bunch of far-right reactionary theocratic jackasses who sell ladies into sex slavery and shit, being up against imperialists doesn't excuse that.

[–]teaoverlord 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but they don't like the US so I have to "critically support" them

[–]SnugglerificCrypto-anarchist 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems like a lot of people have trouble accepting that many wars are frequently just a bunch of assholes versus another bunch of assholes.

[–]Br00ce 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

how is it odd? tankies have always supported anti-amerikkkan leaders no matter what ruthless dictator they have to back to do that.

[–]InOranAsElsewhereanarchist communist | veganarchist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why I said in an expected way. I get how it's getting ideologically consistent, but that's the hill you chose to die on?

[–]ThinkMinty 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, the more I see you around, the more I like you.

I need to get to know you better, comrade.

[–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speak for yourself.

Edit: I AM all reactionaries on this blessed day.

[–]-jute- 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Added /r/shittankiessay to reactionary list

[–]LeftRatSocial Democrat 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A small part of me hopes that me recommending this sub over theirs everywhere pissed them off enough to do this. Their mods are tiny little dictators that really get off on their power, and it's the kind of cringeworthy sad-funny sight that always makes me pity them.

[–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems like 100% power tripping or (quite possibly) being mad at me or another mod specifically and trying to punish anyone we're associated with (including whole subreddits worth of users) as supposed reactionaries. It's super petty and childish but these are the same people who praise al-Assad as a valiant defender of human rights.

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    [–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I will put a leg on this ship.

    [–]glexarnSyndicalist / Libertarian Socialist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    /r/ABoringDystopia also seems pretty chill, though I don't spend a lot of time there

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Unfortunately that one is run by Voltarinede, a noted anarcho-tankie who has praised the Maoist Red Army Faction.

    [–]1_narchy_plsAncom 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Anarcho-tankyism? how does that work?

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I call them anarcho-tankies because they are anarchists who think the Stalinist approach to dissent and disagreement is awesome.

    There is another related group, the anarcho-vanguardists, who like forming groups of "right-thinking" anarchists in order to take over anarchist spaces and quash disagreement for the supposed benefit of all the other anarchists.

    [–]CucksLoveTrumpLeft-Libertarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    anarchists who think the Stalinist approach to dissent and disagreement is awesome.

    isn't that just fascism?

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Nah, fascism is an authoritarian right-wing phenomenon that is pretty complicated. These people are closer to actual Marxist-Leninism in practice (aside from the whole State thing I guess) but like talking about anti-authoritarianism for the right people. Heh, a kind of herrenvolk anarchism, maybe.

    [–]CucksLoveTrumpLeft-Libertarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    closer to herrenvolk dem as you suggested but it comes very close to the colloquial "fascism" that people think about (ie "you cant say/think that!") but maybe not the entire "state" portion

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I mean, we're in a political subreddit, so we're going to do better than "fascism is a synonym for generic authoritarian actions". Fascism involves weird fixations on racial and cultural purity, a strong central leader who embodies the national will, etc. I'd say if you got down to it, a lot of these people oppose states but would be happy with groups of their friends having the power to execute people they dislike on the spot. Not fascism, but might as well be the DPRK for how fucked up a society like that would be.

    Also, as I said, Voltarinede praised the Maoist Red Army Faction before, so... that sounds like anarcho-tankieism to me.

    [–]CucksLoveTrumpLeft-Libertarian 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I mean, we're in a political subreddit, so we're going to do better than "fascism is a synonym for generic authoritarian actions"

    thank fuck

    Fascism involves weird fixations on racial and cultural purity, a strong central leader who embodies the national will

    Which I'd actually say Wilhelm 2 over Hitler was real fascism

    I'd say if you got down to it, a lot of these people oppose states but would be happy with groups of their friends having the power to execute people they dislike on the spot.

    While I oppose the state, I'd say the second part is too "revolutionary" for me

    Also, as I said, Voltarinede praised the Maoist Red Army Faction before

    Gotta go check them out. Thanks Prince!

    [–]glexarnSyndicalist / Libertarian Socialist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    huh, that's unfortunate.

    [–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One by one, the tankies take the leftist subs over and enforce their delusions.

    Ugh.

    [–]SnugglerificCrypto-anarchist 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Horseshoe theory, obvs.

    [–]DeefianState Socialist 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Tankies gonna tank, lol.

    Glad I was banned there a long ass time ago for making fun of them in SRD lmao. They are a salty bunch, aren't they?

    [–]1_narchy_plsAncom 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    What happened to the "left unity" that the LSC mods talk so much about?

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Doesn't count if you're not into suicide goading, death threats and calling for the random murder of people you disagree with. "True leftists" love all that stuff, apparently, and you're a literal reactionary if you disagree.

    There's also a great comic out there about left unity with Marxist-Leninists if someone can find that.

    [–]ThinkMinty 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Unity" means "You don't get to disagree with tankies" to them.

    [–]Chosen_Chaos 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I guess it only applies if you agree with them.

    [–]Bluntforce9001Socialist-ish 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't like gulags, mass famine and totalitarianism so I guess I'm pretty much a Nazi now aren't I?

    [–]ThinkMinty 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Aaaaaay. I've said pretty much the same thing myself.

    I tend to say, "Dude, it's the authoritarianism I'm upset with." or some variation, and they still act like I'm being some kind of unruly anarchist for having standards I apply to everybody.

    [–]Ohnana_Social Democrat 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    ヽ(°◇° )ノ Updoots to exile yourself! ヽ(°◇° )ノ

    [–]gackhammer3Anarchist 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Can I get 1000 upvotes for this comment please?

    [–]Pao_Did_NothingWrongRomantic Socialist 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ohh! Me too!

    [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No, but I can give you 500 Channels instead.

    [–]ItsJustACorpseChomsky is cool I guess 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Uh-oh, we going to the gulag now boys

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      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ha! I upvoted you! One vote closer to banination by tankies!

      [–]kroxigor01 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      They banned me on November the 7th for saying it would be wise to vote for Hillary Clinton.

      I didn't say I agreed with her neoliberal policy, just that she seemed less likely than Trump to make the world much worse and in the US electoral system you have to vote for one of the top 2 candidates if you'd like to change the result.

      They sure showed me! /s

      [–]The_Hated_One 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      After Trump was elected they banned me for being critical of Hillary (I mentioned her orders to spy on UN officials). I was told that was "fake news" spread by the Trump campaign.

      That ban makes even less sense to me now... I guess the mods there are just dumb and narrow-minded as fuck. That little support group they have in modmail must be how they purged all of their self-awareness.

      [–]SpinningNipples 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Not surprising, they behave like your average stalinist.

      [–]ThinkMinty 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      It's really annoying. I don't want to replace imperialism with social imperialism, that defeats the whole point of leftism.

      [–]teaoverlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      but red flags d00d

      [–]SpinningNipples 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Agree. Communist dictatorships are still dictatorships.

      [–]ThinkMinty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I tend to be wary of the "communists and anarchists have the same goals" crowd because historically that's been bullshit every fucking time.

      [–]SpinningNipples 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Yea. Go ask the anarchist who have died under communist regimes and I'm sure they have a different opinion on the subject.

      [–]ThinkMinty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Go ask the anarchist who have died under communist regimes and I'm sure they have a different opinion on the subject.

      ^ THIS.

      [–]The_Hated_One 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Reddit communists are such assholes they have to be like agent provocateurs or something. I find it hard to believe people can be that insufferable for free. It's like they're actively trying to turn people off the ideology.

      I got banned from /r/communism101 for making the outrageous statement of "not everyone can work in academia". Such notions fly in the face of communism apparently.

      Good luck to them with their worker's revolt when they seemingly look down on anyone that isn't a habitually offended upper-class academic, I guess.

      [–][deleted] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      the entry for /r/4chan is commented out

      Words fail me.

      [–]butistillwork 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      lol who wants to go through the modlists and see which mod posts there a lot?

      [–]FreeRobotFrost 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Really, it seems kinda stu-... wait, can I say that here? Am I going to get banned? Ah hell, fuck it, it seems like a stupid sub to exempt.

      [–]Eugene_V_ChomskyLibertarian-ish Democratic Socialist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Don't worry, we're much more reasonable when it comes to deciding what language is actually offensive.

      [–]GynophileA Cyborg Manifesto 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Is there anything actionable here? Just 'welp, tankies gonna tank' seems not enough.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Actionable? We can't do anything about it, they're allowed to autoban all of Reddit if they feel like it. Just spread the word that they're cracking down on everyone who's insufficiently edgy as "reactionary", I guess.

      [–]teaoverlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Post catgirls

      [–]_metamythical 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Tankie reddit is that marvelous place where you can justify the killing of peasant farmers, but you must do so without using racist, sexist, and ableist language.

      [–]teaoverlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      you can't be stupid if you ban people who call you stupid

      [–]parrotcarrot 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I was banned from /r/LateStageCapitalism recently. When I asked why, the reason given was because I was a "Brocialist". I had honestly never heard the term before, and looked it up, finding it essentially meant a sexist socialist. I found this hilarious, because I'm a woman and I had posted nothing anti-feminist or misogynist on /r/LateStageCapitalism at any point. The only thing you could find in my post history that might even allude to those views would be the few posts I've made on /r/tumblrinaction, but apparently that was enough to deserve to be silenced.

      It's a shame, because I was really enjoying /r/LateStageCapitalism. It felt nice to comiserate in how fucked you can feel from the current economic system, even though I didn't consider myself a communist necessarily.

      [–]fourcrewAnti-Capitalist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      lol

      [–]voice-of-hermesanarchist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      1k karma? Pfffft! All I needed was some asshole mod from /r/@ harboring a grudge. I was waaaaaay ahead of this wave, man.

      [–]portodhamma 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Honestly I'm just surprised /r/ultraleft and /r/leftcommunism were spared from the purge

      [–]fourcrewAnti-Capitalist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Not popular enough to notice, I guess. /r/shitleftistssay as well.

      [–]ThinkMinty 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They won't let you be an anarchist on /r/LateStageCapitalism. How dare I question Daddy Stalin.

      I'm pretty sure they'd be pissed off that I don't like Indira Gandhi either.

      [–]StillRadioactive 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I got banned from there because I said Juche was the insane ramblings of Kim Il-Sung.

      Apparently "insane" is a no-no word.

      [–]StWdUnWelfareState.wordpress.com 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have no idea how I'm not banned yet unless it happened ages ago and I didn't notice. I never post in that shit hole but love posting their shit in shitleftistssay

      [–]TotesMessenger 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      [–]ThisGuy481 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Emissary from the neighboring country of /r/EnoughCommieSpam here to give proper congratulations for this development. We wish you much luck on your newfound getting-auto-banned-by-/r/LateStageCapitalism and may you find many achievements in the future.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      user reports: 1: Do we really have to tolerate the ECS people here? I don't want this to devovle into an STS situatio

      I don't see anything wrong with this comment, personally speaking. LWoE definitely isn't a space to attack socialism or get into huge debates from a non-socialist perspective, but it is a relatively open one and banning people for saying hello is ridiculous. Also the ECS people ban Nazis, alt-righters and The_Donald users so it's not like they're hardcore reactionaries either, though their memes are often pretty shit quality (sorry not sorry).

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      user reports:

      1: fuck off liberal enabler

      Sorry (not really) that /r/LeftWithSharpEdge was banned, anonymous reporter. Perhaps Raddit, Voat for Edgy LeftistsTM is more your style? They have all of two edgy posts a day to call people liberals in, along with doxxes of random people they don't like.

      [–]ThisGuy481 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, no offense taken to that comment on our memes. We're very proud of the shittiness of our memes.

      [–]thomaszSocialist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      lol

      [–]18aidanme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Unsubbed because political reddit was getting to be too much, just posting for the automatic LSC ban.

      [–]lurker093287h 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      I just posted to test and I am not banned (yet) maybe the prince is being singled out again as an infantile ultra-leftist.

      [–]Ohnana_Social Democrat 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      It's karma gated, so just posting once won't do it.

      [–]lurker093287h 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      How could you possibly get over 1000 karma from this sub where the top post of all time has like 90 points, weird.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      It's all the subs combined. A few comments and posts here, maybe a few to ShitTankiesSay, a few other subs... 1000 karma really isn't that hard to get tbh.

      [–]RazansodraTrotskyist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It's more than I have total lol.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Actually, you have over 3000 karma. (It includes comment karma!)

      [–]RazansodraTrotskyist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ah, ok. Yeah, I suppose with that included it isn't hard, if you are active on the subs.

      [–]lurker093287h 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh I see, interesting.

      [–]-jute- 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Well, it's combined upvotes, so STS for example is included.

      I'm also astonished how quickly I managed to get to thousands of points in ECS (which isn't much larger) despite not exactly being enthusiastic about capitalism :P

      [–]1_narchy_plsAncom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      So use both leftist and anti-leftist subs? What exactly is your political stance?

      [–]-jute- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I just like to get both perspectives so I don't end up in a "bubble" or fall victim to confirmation bias.

      Economically I tend to be somewhat between market socialism and social democracy, but socially I'm more moderate.

      [–]POGO_POGO_POGO_POGO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      C O I N T E L P R O

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I don't want to accuse anyone of being cops. Edgy, power-tripping tankies do a far superior job of disrupting leftist communities than any cop ever could.

      [–]POGO_POGO_POGO_POGO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I just don't get the motive. At least subs like T_D have a well defined motive and behave in accordance with that. But these big leftist subs... I find it hard to believe their only motive is power tripping.

      You've obviously spent more time in them than I have... do people get banned for specifically running counter to some predefined objectives of the sub? Or is banning more haphazard? Is there a pattern to the banning?

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I've been personally & pre-emptively banned in most of them forever, so I wouldn't really know. As for pattern, there is this one: at this point I have become so toxic to the tankies that they seem to be banning anyone within two hops of me. Merely commenting in a subreddit I help mod is anathema -- and I've heard people are getting banned merely for associating with people I mod with. But it's not only me or the other mods here, a lot of these tankie types have had it out for various non-edgy users for a long time. There is a long-running feud with pretty much all the leftcoms, for instance.

      [–]POGO_POGO_POGO_POGO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, I think they want to be the go-to place for socialist newcomers on reddit, and they have a particular "message" to give to the newcomers. So people like you and your associates aren't allowed because you might advertise your alternative subs.

      And their message is not wholesome. Either they really do want to push their tankie ideology, or they want to avoid people talking about what the real socialist/anarchist movement is about. I would not be surprised if the subs are compromised.

      Interestingly enough, I've been reading/watching stuff from David Ellerman (Labour Theory of Property). His opinion is that Marxism is a convenient tool used by capitalists because while it does oppose capitalism, it does not disagree with the capitalist "frame of reference" (you'll have to read that link to get what I mean, I think), and the labour theory of value is so easily disproved that marxism is, again, the perfect foil for capitalism.

      [–]realityisaconstruct -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      There are a lot of liberals on this sub, to be fair.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      We're open to liberals who want to honestly discuss socialism and learn about it. However, that does not make us a "reactionary" sub unless your definition of reactionary is "someone who disagrees with me", and so it's not "fair" at all. I would see your point if we were inviting in Nazis but they are banned on sight.

      [–]realityisaconstruct -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Yeah and I agree with that. I won't defend or try to justify their auto-ban system - let alone the Stalinist bs - I'm just saying it makes sense for them to oppose nominally leftist subs that tolerate capitalist apologia.

      [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      nominally leftist subs that tolerate capitalist apologia.

      We aren't a nominally leftist sub that tolerates capitalist apologia. We are an openly socialist sub that is not particularly geared around debating with non-leftists, but also doesn't snap and ban everyone for not already agreeing 100% with us.

      [–]CucksLoveTrumpLeft-Libertarian 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      thank fuck tbh. a lot of left leaning politically minded subs (most?) will ban you if you if you don't comply. prince is prob the best left-leaning mod on reddit tbh

      ninja*edit: edited to suck prince's dick less

      [–]Anarcho_PosadismAnarchist Transhumanist 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      everyone who disagrees with me is a liberal

      [–]fourcrewAnti-Capitalist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Maybe it's because I don't pay close enough attention, but I see this sub is basically a small group of anarchists with a few exceptions. Not sure who's a liberal here. Riemann?

      [–]realityisaconstruct 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ah really? Perhaps I was the one not paying close enough attention and was thinking of a different sub when I commented. My bad. :/

      EDIT: yeah after taking another look around it seems like I was misremembering or something and had some other sub in mind when I commented above. Well, that's embarrassing.

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        [–]just_an_ordinary_guy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        The problem is that fatlogic has increasingly gone in the fatepeoplehate direction. It didn't used to be quite that bad.

        [–]Prince_Kropotkinanarchist-dramatist[S,M] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It was pretty much always that bad. I removed that post. Don't apologize for incredibly shitty subs please.

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          [–]just_an_ordinary_guy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          We're not talking about supporting people getting obese. But harassing people for being obese is counterproductive. Yes, support people who want to lose weight and be healthier. But people who are overweight or obese shouldn't be shunned and harassed like some people do. They still need support too. Some people act like it's just a switch that can be flipped, but it's a struggle for many to overcome, especially when they have no support.