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Red Pill TheoryYour Daily Reminder - AWALT (self.TheRedPill)

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Two plates currently spinning, one for a while now (have made previous posts that include her). Everything going perfectly so far, no complaints.

Sitting at dinner, joking around, it comes up that she used to fuck one of her superiors at work, ended up reaping some benefits for that. Dude was literally twice her age.

My brain kind of froze. No matter how many times you try to internalize the idea of AWALT, nothing will compare to experiencing it. You should experience it often, because the idea of AWALT will keep you accountable to yourself, and will keep you from putting someone who absolutely does not deserve it on a pedestal. It's incredibly strange - you're not angry, you're not sad, you're just aware. Then you internalize it, file that little fact away in your head, and continue. Decide later if it is a deal breaker for you. For me, I'm not too sure yet. Can't decide if it was a strategic thing, or a scummy thing to do. We'll see. But what matters is exposure to AWALT.

So that's your daily reminder. Onwards.

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[–]Westernhagen 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (11子コメント)

In my opinion, a younger woman sleeping with an older senior guy at work is not the acme of skill. Too easy and too risky. The acme of skill - and I have actually seen this done - is for the younger woman to "play" the older guy and get all the benefits of sleeping with him without actually sleeping with him. In short, to turn the senior guy into one of her beta orbiters. And meanwhile she'll have her younger beta orbiters in the office all lined up to do her work for her but get no credit or pussy for it.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'd prefer a women like this over the one OP described.

[–]harkrank 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Prefer a woman like this as what?

[–]morexel 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Just as a guess... The second girl is much smarter. Uses what she has more efficiently and without sacrifice. Intelligence and cunning are attractive in women so I'd agree... So long as I'm still getting what I want out of it.

[–]The_Best_01 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And that's how people like you get played like a fiddle.

[–]morexel 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're missing context. We're qualifying women that we're getting what we want out of - sexual relations, plating, relationship... whatever. That's even qualified in the post you replied to at the end.

You'd rather be with the girl who manipulates men and sleeps with them, than the woman who manipulates men and doesn't?

I think the latter is typical and the former is pretty ugly.

If you're getting what you want you're not getting played.

[–]The_Best_01 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the case of the former, if she's less cunning, than she's less likely to try to manipulate me often, even though she'll still try. It's got nothing to do with whether we're getting what we want out of it. It's about the principle of not being used so often in the first place. And if you do prefer the latter, she's still less likely to bang you.

[–]gradchad 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something tells me you've read Sun Tzu's Art of War.

[–]Redditisfullofcucks 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can't decide if it was a strategic thing, or a scummy thing to do.

It's both. Strategically scummy. A lot of people will say "it's just business" as a way absolving any kind of possibly immoral or gray area behaviors but hearing that from a girl would be an instant turn off. She is out and out admitting to being a golddigger, I trade you sex for preferential treatment and $$ = golddigger. This knowledge would make me call into question her motivation for every action afterwards. Definite dealbreaker if you were looking for something srs but if not, keep banging away and stay on guard.

[–]Godskook 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't mind -honest- gold diggers as much, and don't even call them such. Its the dishonest ones that lie about it when it matters, like to the guy they're telling they're on the pill when they're not.

I mean, if you call all women who're having sex for money gold-diggers, then its a fundamental coraly of that and AWALT that all women are gold-diggers.

[–]2Overkillengine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, the problem is dishonesty. Charging an honest price for a pleasurable service is not wrong.

But pulling a bait and switch to get way more than the service is worth is wrong on the ethical and pragmatic axes, the ethical for obvious reasons, but the pragmatic as well since abusing the basic mutual trust that society functions on means bad things in the long term.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's not a gold-digger, she's a prostitute. She used sex to advance her career, esentially sex for money. I had a plate that had a 'sugar daddy' that she used to tell me about. He liked to buy things for her and it was 'purely non-sexual'. Months later, she told me that they had had sex. I asked her what it felt like to be a prostitute. Every 2 or 3 months, she was putting out after he spent about $300-$400. I congratulated her on getting a professional rate, and she was adamant it wasn't sex for money. I asked her how it felt to be a whore. She denied, denied, denied. Told her to stop putting out and see if the gifts keep coming. He had professed his love for her and wanted her to move to the UK or some shit like that. Either way, she stopped seeing him because I put the hamster on overload and she hated that I pointed out the obvious. Not the first time I've seen it, and it won't be the last. But if someone talks about sex for money like it's no big deal, then they are ok with 'sex work.' The girl in the OP is nothing but a glorified prostitute. Point it out to her. See how she loses her shit and denies. Ask where the line is drawn. Enjoy the ride.

[–]Bambam22bam 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (11子コメント)

This is why she is a plate. Why would it be a deal-breaker if she is just a plate?

[–]BlackWildBoar[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're right, but I want to surround myself valuable people, and that includes plates.

[–]Bambam22bam 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (9子コメント)

If I were you, assess how good the sex is and adjust accordingly. If she rocks your socks off, keep her as a smash-only. Stop spending quality time with her.

[–]ThirstyBetaMale 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I agree with this. No more "dinners" with plates.

[–]LostLittleBoi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Explain that. Why the hell not? Its good food, good company, and it flows nicely into drinking

[–]ThirstyBetaMale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Because its not good company.

[–]LostLittleBoi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Idk about you but id rather eat at a nice place with a girl than do it alone or with another dude. Maybe plate means something different than I think it does, idk, I at least have to like a girl before I take her to dinner, some loud drunk hoe from the club aint getting none of that obviously but if I know her i see nothing wrong there.

[–]The_M0rning_Star 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Listen, these boys are just worried about you gettin' used up by women who don't give a shit. If takin' ladies to dinner is your thing, fuckin' do it. Never met a real man who lets another man tell him how to be manly if we're being honest. Just be careful it's not some slut trying to get a free meal out of you and you should be fine doing whatever the fuck it is you want to do.

[–]ThirstyBetaMale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't take plates out to dinner because they aren't worth spending money on. Doesn't mean we can't "hang out" though. "dinner" might be pulling through the drive thru and picking something up quickly before going back to my place where she gets fucked. Or it good be me showing up and her cooking something and then we fuck.

It is never a sit down restaurant type of deal where I am going to get offended though if she brings up a past relationship. That's why she is a plate. AWALT and move on.

Like many other people in this thread said, the OP needs to stop having feelings for his plate and get over it.

[–]LostLittleBoi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay I gotcha, nothing wrong with that kinda thing. I don't really view it as spending money on her as much as it is buying myself some company. I'm already splurging on a meal, might as well spend the extra 20-30 on her shit so I have something to do besides eat and wait for a waiter. If she says something fucked up just laugh in my head at the AWALT display and keep going through the night. Think we just view it differently (I really like nice food) but both work out pretty much the same

[–]MomentumRising 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

she used to fuck one of her superiors at work. Dude was literally twice her age.

In addition to AWALT, it's a demonstration of SMV (older men, younger women).

[–]morexel 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the older guy is probably on here posting about his plate that is half his age.

But let's be honest. Younger women are better in every way. And we can get them so...

[–]Iguessthisismynameno 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

My last ex once admitted to having fucked her professor at University. I never looked at her the same after that.

[–]empatheticapathetic 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Look at all of us here getting shocked by this behaviour. Why is it shocking us exactly? They're completely fine with it, to the point they're apparently bragging about it (or perhaps they aren't?). How can we actually internalise this better so this shit doesn't throw us anymore.

[–]Iguessthisismynameno 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

IME the only way is to just face it every time it comes up, process the disappointment, accept that you now see them differently and it just slowly effects you less over time.

[–]empatheticapathetic 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah. I'm just saying why are we even getting to the point of disappointment. Why aren't we just realising "oh shit, of course, AWALT!" and assuming it before it's even revealed (within reason).

[–]Iguessthisismynameno 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what a lifetime worth of conditioning will do to you. Takes a while to truly come to terms with I guess

[–]0kool74 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How can we actually internalise this better so this shit doesn't throw us anymore.

It's not that it throws us. It's a subconscious shock response. It's like the Doberman Pinscher that's been around the family for a decade....always playful with the kids, maybe a bit of rebel rousing.....but still no concern. Until one day......it severely injures a family member or kills the kid. You know that's the behavior of the DP after several years, but it still shocks you. Same with any other breed that has a screw loose after a certain age.....same with women.

I don't think there's a man out there that would be surprised with the kind of woman that causes a man to self-immolate. Still doesn't make it shock-free. The ONLY way we are thrown by it is if we aren't AWARE of what CAN and in sometimes DOES happen.

[–]Conceited-Monkey 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

A lot of women will happily date rich guys they find repulsive just for the perks. I have lost count of the number of women I know where I found out they had done some sugar babying, webcam work, or even escorting. If they are attractive and have money issues you would be amazed how often this crops up in their backgrounds.

[–]EricDaGreat 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, and it's shocking how quickly those young women will admit their sugar baby activities to other men, right under the rich dude's nose.

[–]gecko408 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most rich men don't give a shit. They just want to fuck hot chicks like the rest of us

[–]ShavedApel 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not amazed, that's why there are a lot less homeless women. There pussy is always a backup income.

[–]DubbleFUPAwitCheez 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like a perfect example of a chick that will never get above plate.

[–]_the_shape_ 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But what matters is exposure to AWALT.

Yep.

To the red-pill man, "AWALT" should be something like rain - if you step outside and get blown away by the sight of water falling from the sky, then you clearly need to get out more.

[–]newName543456 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically, little difference from most LTR, and actual AWALT, in that they all trade sex for something else. Difference is in LTR they trade sex for resources and commitment, your plate only really traded it for resources (and not directly from a guy).

Of course it's a strong indicator of incapability of pair bonding. So make sure you don't catch feelings.

[–]justputyourmouthonit 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea you're taking this personally.

Exhibit A: You're at dinner with her.

Exhibit B: You have a stunned reaction to words coming out of her mouth.

Exhibit C: You care enough about said words to make a post about it.

Exhibit D: Citing things like 'twice her age' and 'superior' and other shit that doesn't matter to anyone. When did we start shaming dudes for fucking younger broads?

She's just a plate man, who gives a fuck.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Women's value is directly related to their cunts. They know it. They use it. No surprise there. If we could ever get real honesty from them I'm sure most of them have a story similar to that.

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    [–]czatara 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    plenty of women with an N count of 1

    How can you or anyone be sure of that?

    There are multiple levels to the redpill and you are still in the earlier stages. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, but if you continue with your bluepill NAWALT fantasy, you are in for a BIG surprise. Please ask me how I know it.

    [–]AGallopingMonkey 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    TRP is about sexual strategy. So unless them being a doctor makes them more attractive to you, it is irrelevant in the SMP.

    [–]ThirstyBetaMale 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    and I'm pretty red pilled.

    Saying something does not make it true.

    [–]DesignerTom 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Experiencing something first had definitely helps you understand it more than just reading about someone elses experiences. Sometimes it is easy to not fully appreciate something someone has said on here and find excuses to dismiss it "he must have been unlucky", "my girl wouldn't do that" etc. unless you can relate to it in your own experience.

    [–]1ozaku7 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Perceive women like cars. It's just your turn, it's temporary, it will get old and newer models will be more attractive, as the older models will need more and more maintenance. Maintain them well, and they will serve you well. You can't put them on a pedestal and any secondhand car probably had an owner and history what a beta wouldn't ever want to know (because you should only buy a car that is driven by a granny and not a 20 year old plastic tuner).

    I know my car has seen shit and raced with up to triple speeds allowed, but who cares. Ride it, enjoy it while it lasts, and if it craps out on you, get another car.

    There's not much RP truth in this, but it's a very simple sketch of it.

    [–]1kez88 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Why does this bother you? If you found out she fucked a co-worker previously or some random dude previously you wouldn't have cared, but because it was someone in a position of power and got some benefits suddenly its this horrible thing? Sounds like you're either jealous of her being able to do that, or insecure. Can't blame you for being jealous, shit I wish I could fuck someone and get benefits haha

    [–]empatheticapathetic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Because when it's with another normal guy it's presumably based on attraction. If they're fucking you you want it to be because they're attracted to you. When they admit to fucking a guy for perks then you may question why they are with you at all and it devalues what you have with her/the work you might have put in.

    I know she's a plate but it seems to me the whole balance is based around liking her enough to spend time with her and it not be a chore (some pedestalisaton) and not being too attached and putting her on a pedestal.

    We can't be 100% RP all the time realistically.

    [–]1kez88 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Attraction for a woman is based on how much she can gain from you. If all she gains is fun and tingles then thats what she values in you, she was attracted to the boss because he could give her different things. But the point is that she's still gaining VALUE in her eyes, so its attraction either way. You can enjoy someone for one reason, and enjoy being with someone else for another reason. RP is 100% of the time, you just haven't internalised everything 100% yet. You don't have to hate women and be a dick or whatever to be RP, being RP is understanding why sexual strategy is the way it is, and right now it doesn't seem like you fully understand womens sexual strategy

    [–]empatheticapathetic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    All I'm saying about being 100% RP all the time is OP making a post entirely about the fact that despite reading numerous articles and case studies on AWALT, he still found himself surprised when it was manifested right in front of him, and a pretty tame example to be fair. By being surprised, he was not being 100% TRP by my definition as that wouldn't surprise him. He quickly noticed his reaction and took it as far as to make a post about it.

    By your standard what do you think I have misunderstood?

    [–]1kez88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm saying OP shouldn't have been surprised or even find it bad or dishonorable or something. He's complaining AWALT and acting like it's a pretty big deal, which I don't think it should be given RP principles. So I guess I'm agreeing with you. I thought by 100% RP all the time you meant acting alpha or something

    [–]BobbyPeru 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds like she's in a bragging mood...

    Now ask her what her real N count is

    [–]MediciMan14 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    'File that little fact away in your head, and continue. Decide later if it is a deal breaker for you.'

    Gold.

    [–]bitch_regulator 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Half of my women are on antidepressants, the other half...well, they should be taking some sort of psychiatric medication.

    It's a no-win/no-win these days, take it easy.

    Good rule of thumb though.

    [–]nolanite 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What's so shocking about this?

    [–]frrunkis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Who cares, good for her. You wouldn't fuck an old lady to get ahead?

    [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    your brain froze because she fucked her superior at work?

    [–]analogsac 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Smith was "the one" not Neo. Smith sought to destroy the matrix. Neo was a tool fooled into thinking he was fighting a revolution when actually he was fighting against his own liberation. Zion was just a shitter matrix with in the matrix.

    [–]Sherlock--Holmes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I feel like I could apply this to so many situations. So true..

    [–]analogsac 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think it's zen. The unintentional irony surrounding the use of the term "the red pill" meaning to "wake up" and then subsequently fight a cause is hilarious!

    [–]19yoManChild 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Now i aint saying she a gold digga but...

    [–]yunhaila -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If we say AWALT, can we say AMALT?

    [–]Surfac3 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not really cuz well not all men are like that hence there being red pill and blue pill.