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Middle-earth: Shadow of War will feature in-game micro-transactions. (store.steampowered.com)

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[–]Six_Foot_Turkey_64 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Oh for fuck's sake.

The hype train only got started 3 hours ago and it's already about to crash and burn?

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Idk, how greedy WB can be.

By their own words: Gold Edition is over $135 in total value.

And you put micro-transactions in 135 dollar game?

That's how successful sales of the game being rewarded. I'm sure they'll put Denuvo on top of it.

[sarcasm]Because pirates is a real threat for gaming industry.[/sarcasm]

[–]Gyossaits 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It used to be you would want the latest and greatest at launch.

Nowadays it's better to wait a year or two for everything to be bundled together down to ten bucks or so.

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny, because I love Monolith, and previous game for me was true GOTY of 2014. I want to start throwing money into screen for new game. Don't care about story, just want improved Nemesis for roaming deserts of Mordor and slaying orks. But right from the start WB managers smack me in the face with stinky fish.

P.S. Anyone remember good old No One Lives Forever?

[–]Cymelion 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did it with Arkham Knight - didn't even finish the bundled DLC after I had finished the campaign.

Just Cause 3 waited till all the DLC was bundled but then I was playing Witcher 3 so now I am waiting for next sale.

Deus Ex HR - didn't buy the Season Pass or any of the DLC.

The fact is once you remove yourself from the hype these games marketing tries to manipulate from you - you make much better purchases and can enjoy completed games at a cheaper price.

[–]Yar987 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nowadays it's better to wait a year or two for everything to be bundled together down to ten bucks or so.

Oh so true. I never properly played all of the expansions of Skyrim because of this. I'd "finished" the game long before the DLCs were finished coming out, and never could get truly back into it.

[–]D0OMZDAYZi5 4690K GTX 980 8GB RAM Win 7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see Shadow of Mordor GOTY regularly going for 5 bucks and I still haven't bought. Backlogs too big :/

PatientGamerProblems

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

And you put micro-transactions in 135 dollar game?

No, Gold Edition costs $100, while the base game it self $60

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I quoted steam store page.

Gold Edition includes: Over $135 in total value

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

WB values its content at 135$, but its real price, wich you can chose to pay is $100

Value=/=Price

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It means total price of the game + DLCs if you buy them separately.

[–]ornerygamer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except it likely includes these micro transaction drops or something similar as well right?

So if 5 premium crates are $20 and they give those to you (to try and get you hooked) you now have an additional $20 in "value"

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. You're right. Those gold and silver war chests are likely micro-transaction items.

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why would buy the all the DLC+game separately when you can buy them cheaper in one bundle?

[–]Kinths 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because that DLC will be out after the game is released and you have no guarantee it will be any good.

[–]Ghost_LeaderBG 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think it's been proven time and time again that WB doesn't give a flying fuck about their customers. At this point they're being extremely lucky that the studios they publish for are actually competent in making (mostly) solid games.

[–]Skauzor [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm pirating this. If WB doesn't care about customers, then I don't care about them. Single-player games with microtransactions are stupid. It's not a fucking mobile game. It's probably fun for like 30 hours anyways, maybe a bit more if the replayability problems that the first game had has been worked out. Not exactly worth $135, with extra consumables to purchase.

[–]ian356094 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. If you don't care about them, then don't buy it.

Don't be a fucking bum.

[–]MrLtMuffi5 4690K/GTX 1070 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't wait to find out what core mechanic they intentionally sabotaged to make room for a paid fix.

[–]Chewbacker 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (12子コメント)

First game released at £29.99 and this one is £44.99... What the fuck.

[–]PaulTheMerc 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

same AAA price as everything else here in Canada, 80 CAD.

[–]aldmerimaneateri5 4670k GTX 760 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The economy isn't at the same place it was 2 years ago, where I live it costs almost 1400 pesos while Shadow of Mordor was only around 800 at launch.

30 euros back in 2014 are certainly not worth the same as today's 30 euros.

[–]MrPeligroi7 4790k | GTX 970 | 8GB 1600mhz DDR3 | 1TBHDD -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a commercial success. So the price went up. Rightfully so. It's market, supply and demand.

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bigger game=Higher production costs=higher price

[–]Cyranis13 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (8子コメント)

And .. NOPE. Wont buy or support a product that has microtrans ever again.

[–]Personzoo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not going to make any judgment calls yet. Deus ex mankind divided had micro transactions that were totally optional and didn't effect the gameplay experience at all if ignored, and they were not shoved down your throat. Here's hoping this game can do the same.

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Micro-transactions in DE:MD were added after game was finished. They only ruin game balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbj4GuuZTA

[–]Personzoo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

First of all, they were in the game since launch, and second of all, how does an optional feature ruin game balance in a single player game? Just don't use it if you don't like it.

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please watch video, it will answer on all of your questions.

Talking about ruining game process - read about Dead Space 3. You could have enough scrap to enjoy crafting only if you buy it for real money.

[–]beathusi5 3570k@4.4Ghz/GTX970/8GB-76561197961308480 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

aaaand it's gone from my radar.

[–]OJSamson 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

why?

[–]suisidexi7-3770k 980sc 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can understand why people are pissed but personally it doesn't effect me, that being said i don't think I'm buying it at launch unless it's top-top tier.

[–]MadEyeButcher 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't wait for it to be a best seller hit fueled by the money of retards that don't understand that supporting this cancer is only gonna make it spread AND get more aggressive. Gotta make sure that this garbage gets rewards so every devs adopts it and we get even more cool shit locked behind paywalls, instead of being unlocked by playing the game as it used to be.

[–]JDGumby 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

...and there goes any interest I may have had. Not that I had much interest to begin with, since the price of the standard edition of the game itself is an insane CA$80 (US$61).

[–]PaulTheMerc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's sadly the standard AAA price...for over a year that I can remember. Considering that's 60$ USD, we can chalk it up to our shit dollar.

That being said, its also the reason I don't buy games until they plummet in price. In recent memory the only exception was BF1.

[–]collapsing_sanity 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean the new CA standard price ? Many games seem to be priced 79,99$ lately, but I agree it's expensive af.

[–]manzanapochai5 4690K / GTX 1080 FTW / 16GB 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Will gladly buy the full edition for less than 10€ (eventually).

[–]Kinths 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice, I went from cautiously optimistic to not at all interested in 2 hours. Think that might be a record congrats WB.

[–]redeyedstranger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Standard edition costs almost twice as much as any other AAA title in my region and they cram in micro-transactions on top of that? WB can pretty much fuck off with this bullshit. Too bad, because I loved Shadow of Mordor. :(

[–]MrPeligroi7 4790k | GTX 970 | 8GB 1600mhz DDR3 | 1TBHDD 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am going to get it when it's 9.99 for a gory version.

[–]fastcar25Specs: http://valid.x86.fr/fimhu2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

a gory version

Relevant typo.

[–]xWeez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that puts a serious damper on the hype.

[–]Nosdarb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know I should be annoyed, but I'm mostly just glad to see a new game with the nemesis system. That seemed like it could be great in an iteration or two.

[–]DeakulDeakul | Deakull | xlucidx | Deakhul 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whoops and there goes any hype I could've had.

This absolutely deserves an outrage loud enough that it forces WB to do something.

[–]djpokeboy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There needs to be more about this, come on. Warner need to be shown that they're making a giant mistake. You'd think they'd have learnt from the Arkham Knight screwup, but nope.

[–]Sprinkles169 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Biggest gripe with shadow of mordor was the difficulty curve. I'll be pretty unenthused if they try to sell me a more challenging difficulty like games have been doing recently.

[–]Sparrow991 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

People will still, shockingly, fork over money. They're just following what the market seems to demand.

[–]abueloshika [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's interesting that they have moneitsed the Nemesis system. I'll definitely be seeing how that pans out before committing to the game. Not that there was the slimmest chance I'd be buying this at £45 in the first place.

[–]TridentMixed 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, well I guess I can always just watch Youtube videos of the campaign. I really loved the first one though.

[–]TehJohnny 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course it will, it is an AAA game released in 2017.

[–]TehMannie -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay? First one had them too. Why is this a surprise to anyone?

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because non stop hating on something is the new standard

[–]TehMannie -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess so. I 100% Shadow of Mordor without even the slightest urge to pay for micro transactions. Seems like a lot of people outraged about something that will have no effect on them.

[–]JackStillAliveRX 480 8G I i5 6600 I 16GB DDR4 I Windows 10 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Single Player game, so its fine, I won't be using them

[–]Deroni76 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter if it's single-player. Player progression also exists in single-player games. And this player progression can easily be made purposefully slow and grindy to encourage impatient players to buy these microtransactions.

[–]IndigoDivideoI7 4790k, GTX 750ti, 16gb of crucial vengeance 1833mhz -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Heres a bit truth. No one is forcing you to buy any microtransactions. No one is forcing you to buy shadow of war at launch. If you disagree with the way they have went about it then air your opinion to WB and don't winge about it because that doesn't help shortly follow that up with a lack of purchase. I just saved you 5 months of complaining.

[–]rusty_dragon[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Noone forcing you to play video games.

[–]IndigoDivideoI7 4790k, GTX 750ti, 16gb of crucial vengeance 1833mhz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thats true its a hobby I choose to fund for myself.

[–]Cyranis13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Winge isn't a thing. It's whine.

[–]IndigoDivideoI7 4790k, GTX 750ti, 16gb of crucial vengeance 1833mhz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Look I grew up in a scottish household "winge" very much exists.

[–]myworkaccount2334 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sssshhhh... let the mob get it out of their system.

[–]camycamerai5 3570/8gb RAM/PNY 1060 Steam id: camycamera [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly? I don't give a shit, guys. I never buy microtransactions anyway, and I doubt that people actually do IRL for these types of games.

I'm going to buy the game if it looks fun, end of story. To stop microtransactions... Don't buy them. Simple. I'm not going to not purchase the whole game that I want to play because "GOTTA STOP SUPPORTING THE SHITTY BUSINESS PRACTICES REEEE", I'm so tired of all of this bloody toxic outrage every time a AAA game is announced and it has pointless ass microtransactions in it that don't actually do anything worthwhile and don't effect my enjoyment whatsoever.

[–]NinjaHamster12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Where is the information about micro-transactions? The game clearly has different digital versions.