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[–]kaptinkeiff 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (13子コメント)

So it finally happened...that sure is suspicious. A full week of at least 1 post a day regarding Bill Gates on the front page, with near unanimous support for him. Also a significant number of posts that are essentially Microsoft ads getting close to the front page. And now this.

[–]PBE33 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was extremely interesting to see Bill Gates' internet reputation over the years go from devil incarnate to beloved. I can understand to a certain extent, focusing on philanthropy instead of being actively involved in Microsoft likely has a way of keeping what's new fresh in the minds of others and being forgiven for past behavior as it's slowly forgotten or willfully overlooked, but I highly doubt it was an entirely organic shift. I'm sure Microsoft was thrilled to change that image of Gates in the minds of the public.

As an aside, I always thought it was interesting to compare the mood towards Gates with the mood towards Steve Jobs. Jobs never had a shortage of defenders and his cult of personality always held strong, especially towards the end, despite often questionable behavior throughout his career. Charisma and superior image management go a long way.

[–]peterson2004 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shows the power of 'group think'. Imagine if you could fabricate the 'group', what power would you yield.

[–]kaptinkeiff 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is very true, and especially relatable to the idea of buying upvotes; you buy false upvotes in order to foster real upvotes, to in turn influence people by abusing your perceived power - or group, in your example.

[–]TheRedmanCometh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's been dissociated from microsoft imo. As far as I can tell from various stories it sounds he's legitimately a good guy.

[–]jg_y3 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just playing the devils advocate here, but maybe he saw a post about him on reddit, or someone told him about it, and he subsequently decided to do an AMA?

[–]ap18 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or or...Bill Gates and co. Planned it, posted on reddit thru marketing services that give 1000 upvotes/hour on several different days and subreddits so they can have a huge and successful AMA.

[–]rainzer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

so they can have a huge and successful AMA.

He's the richest man in the world. Is your head wrapped so fucking tightly that you think he needs to pay people money to have a successful AMA? Jesus fucking christ.

Some guy posts a video with no evidence, no companies, just an unsourced phone call and blanked out emails that he could have edited on a video he monetized claiming he has proof people buy Reddit posts and you guys have a fucking orgasm without questioning it.

[–]kaptinkeiff 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hence why I said "suspicious". What you're saying is possible, but why now? Why all this publicity of both him and Microsoft on Reddit in the past week and a bit? What /u/ap18 said is a perfect summation of the latter possibility.

[–]Pyehole 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is his fifth AMA, it's not like he is new to the idea of an AMA.

[–]FortuitousAdroit [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

And Reddit is the 7th most visited website in the US.

[–]Pyehole [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Which is exactly why he has already been here for some time as opposed to u/jg_y3 speculation that he "saw a post about him on reddit, or someone told him about it, and he subsequently decided to do an AMA"

[–]proddy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And he's a redditor, he even does the Secret Santa every year.

[–]kona_boy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whatever helps you sleep at night mate

[–]CothranTyson 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

With guys like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Chance the Rapper, it is very clear that there is a lot of shilling going on. Even though people generally respect them, bought accounts guide the discussion, and increase at times when something controversial happens. I don't actually believe that these guys are aware of the shilling, but I would bet they hire social media teams that are not afraid to cross ethical boundaries to ensure their clients don't have to worry about bad pr

[–]SgtNmbr 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure how Chance figures in there. He seems like a genuinely nice dude, especially since he gives all his music away for free. Not everyone who's well liked is buying that good will.

[–]CothranTyson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, Chance is a positive person, and makes most of his money through concerts, appearances, etc. as opposed to making people buy his music. But, it's okay to acknowledge that a lot of celebrities instantly buy a social media team after gaining enough of a following, and a lot of the discussions you see online are not genuine. Although this sub tends to focus on examples of companies/people we don't like, the people actually running these reddit account services profit either way

[–]Demiglitch [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What happened with Chance the Rapper?

[–]username223 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

When I met him ~15 years ago, Gates seemed like a decent person. He was rich enough to buy helicopters to land on his yachts, but he was basically just a nerd who hit the jackpot. He was not an apparent sociopath like Ellison, or a crazy person who read too much SF like Musk.

[–]lindberghbaby 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Doesn't he do those like once a year? I feel like he's constantly posting news about his charity.

[–]mod1fier 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has previously followed up his annual letter with an AMA, as he did in this case.

[–]scotty_pimmpen 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That doesn't fit the narrative though.

[–]lity123 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Shills have reached /r/HailCorporate

[–]karter_50 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

By manipulating the publics perception of him and Microsoft on Reddit in the minds of the latter possibility.

[–]Hail_Bill_Gates 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our supreme overlord prefers [diet-version beverage soda] to quench his insatiable thirst

[–]cheemster 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (18子コメント)

How is this related to hail CORPORATE?

Bill Gates is no longer involved with Microsoft, and he is doing amazing work with his foundation to change the world to make it a better place. A charitable foundation is not a corporation.

On top of this, his foundation doesn't have very much to gain from public exposure. The majority of its funds come from the ultra wealthy (including himself).

[–]Timothy_Claypole 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Do we need a new sub for charitable foundations that game Reddit then?

[–]nikolam 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/hailnonprofit

[–]Timothy_Claypole 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/hailreputationwashingcharities

[–]peterson2004 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Except charitable foundations are anything but, just tax havens for stupid rich. Added benefit of making you a appear like a bro, bro.

Go view his financials, it's making stupid amounts of money. Statements are available online.

[–]scotty_pimmpen -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Dude, Bill Gates has done an absolute shit ton of charitable work with his foundation.

How is this downvoted?. Unless you are pushing an agenda, how can you refute this. What have you done with your money for this world?

[–]Timothy_Claypole -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I almost forgot his ruthless reign as CEO of Microsoft now.

[–]scotty_pimmpen [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

What does that have to do with the above comment about charities being tax havens? Yeah the shit he did with MS was shady but you can't deny that he's made good use of his wealth for the world.

[–]Timothy_Claypole [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It is about reputation washing. It isn't about shoving his money somewhere.

[–]scotty_pimmpen [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Who gives a fuck. Gates has given more money to global causes than I will ever see in my life. Is that not worthy of praise in anyway, for fucks sake. Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.

[–]aeioqu [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, more than you've ever seen in your life. Bill gives only fraction of what he owns to charity, even if he gave 90% of his wealth he would still be enormously wealthy. This is just about changing his public image.

[–]scotty_pimmpen [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As someone who has 1. Never bought anything Microsoft and 2. Always disliked Microsoft, I never thought his personal image was negative.

My point is that, I haven't done anything near what he has for humanity and because of that I don't feel the need to shit all over him for doing an AMA.

[–]Archangelleangelle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bill Gates is no longer involved with Microsoft

Bill Gates still works for Microsoft as technical adviser to the CEO. He also still holds a lot of MS stock. So no, he's still very much a part of Microsoft as the company is a part of him and his foundation.

[–]TorchyBlane 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He still has billions of personal money.

[–]thenightisdark 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He still has billions of personal money.

Uh, and?

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[–]realizmbass [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When you first hear Bill Gates you think of microsoft. He also owns a massive chunk of MS stock. By manipulating the publics perception of him and consequently MS, his stock increases.

Also, I didn't know he was disconnected from MS until this comment. That shows you how informed a lot of people probably are on his connection to MS.

[–]iliasasdf [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I guess hailcorporate got popular enough for the shills to post here too.
That's disappointing.

[–]apocalypsedg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Read the fucking AMA before you join the hate bandwagon...This may be /r/hailcorporate but if we just spout shit at everything with more money than us we will just seem bitter and the true cases of hidden advertising, astroturfing will go unnoticed. Pick your battles. This shouldn't be one of them.

Coming from someone who doesn't use windows, what was so bad about the AMA? He has no book to plug, no marketing for MS, most replies are philanthropy related (poverty, polio), some AI/tech/STEM topics, non materialistic definitions of success, one on climate change in the Trump era...

[–]JackColor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I like r/haicorporate but....isn't Bill Gates someone who has the least incentive to make money with reddit ads? I mean he's richer than everyone why would he bother?

[–]BrazenBull 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Look up reputation washing. At this point, he's building his lovable persona through a PR team.

[–]Pyehole -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's got enough money to last him many, many lifetimes. Why would he give a fuck about his so called reputation?

[–]kidsweekend [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

For the same reason that industrialists during the Gilded Age funded a variety of charitable causes, including the building of museums, libraries, foundations, and so on. They cared about what other people think about them because they're human beings. And they employed people like Ivy Lee, the forebear of modern-day reputation management firms that buy upvotes on reddit, to help them.

[–]Pyehole [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

So tell me again what "corporate brand" he is building?

[–]kidsweekend [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

He's not interested in further developing a corporate brand. He's concerned with establishing a personal legacy that reflects positively on his reputation.

[–]JackColor -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd still be confused as to why, though. He genuinely doesn't need anything. Reputation for a new job? why? He doesn't need a job.

Unless he's gonna be a politician I can't think of any ulterior motives.

[–]lord_katana1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He seems like a bro, bro.

[–]ERockEfreedom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I get the feeling he's planning on running against Trump for president. Anyone else think so?