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PewDiePie red pilled my son (self.conspiracy)

courtrocksteady が 投稿

I have an 11 year old son. This morning I was watching the local news and he came downstairs asking me why I am watching the news. He told me that I shouldn't trust the main stream media (and he used that exact term). He told me that he doesn't trust them after the PewDiePie situation and that I shouldn't either. He said to imagine what other things they lie about.

The only thing I have ever said to him on this topic is to always make sure to do his own research on matters.

*A lot of assumptions being made about me being his father, just wanted to note that I am his mother.

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[–]PhrenicAcid 104 ポイント105 ポイント  (12子コメント)

That is fantastic. Think about the grass roots level red-pilling that has happened in the last year. 2016 has been a powerful event. You can see the cracks forming simply by reading the headlines.

Or maybe I'm just crazy.

[–]courtrocksteady[S] 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I get it. The best part is that my son is very influential amongst his big group of friends. So I know that he will spread this idea along.

[–]DaFetacheeseugh 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Never thought I would think of pie in good light

[–]SadaoMaou [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

His content has really improved during the past over a year or so. Back when he was making all those Amnesia videos I remember thinking "yeah this guy is cancer" and then just kind of forgot about him, until a while ago when someone linked me one of his newer videos and I was like "what the hell, Pewdiepie makes good content now"

[–]Werpogil [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was in the same situation. Stumbled upon his 10minute video response to allegations. Solid stuff overall, although his general content isn't my sort of thing

[–]moco94 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Never thought I would think of pie in any light.. think I saw a clip of his walking dead play through once and next thing I know he's saving our youth aha

[–]AdviseMyAdvice [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Could I get an ELI5 on this PewDiePie thing? The only thing I know about the guy is that he's famous on YouTube. What exactly has he done to redpill the internet?

[–]Kjartan_Aurland [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They tried to destroy him for making anti-Semitic jokes. Instead they turned an entire generation of kids who loved him against them.

[–]AdviseMyAdvice [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is there a specific video of his I need/should watch?

[–]SoupboysLLC [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Now that your son understand there are two sides to all news stories, you can remind him that it's important to be updated from the news but also to keep a sharp mind in formulating opinions from given information.

[–]Rayfloyd 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've lost Generation Z, forever.

[–]Sharkytrs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I dunno kids just seem to be a little more aware these days, my daughter (7) was coming out with one about Rapunzel and Elsa being sisters the other day, and had compelling evidence, lol

[–]DepletedMitochondria [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A lot of things that were formerly out of the mainstream are now fully mainstreamed after last year, it's crazy. Like people actually know who Soros is and what he does now.

[–]ThankGodIExist 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give him a pat on the back

[–]Admirral 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think we will soon enough have a mass movement going. It is the internet that will bite the elites in the ass. Because of the internet people are able to form their own opinions and fight back the oppression.

That is not to say they will not go down without a fight. Shills are evidence of this. In my books, 2016 marks the start of the wide-spread growth of our movement. There are more of us than there are them. Let's fight for a better tomorrow.

[–]Groomper [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is the internet that will bite the elites in the ass. Because of the internet people are able to form their own opinions and fight back the oppression.

Also because of the internet: people can move into echo chambers and have their views reinforced and radicalized.

[–]wOLFman4987 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Not just shills, those hardcore Trump loyalists are just as bad. They will also fight to defend their so called "God Emperor" from any criticism lest they look just like the democrats after 8 years of Obama.

[–]cheshire_ranch [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

atleast trump supporters are organic unlike paid shill bitches. and whats so wrong w trump so far other than what mainstream media spoonfeeds you? no new wars yet.. not bad

[–]strafefire [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

atleast trump supporters are organic unlike paid shill bitches. and whats so wrong w trump so far other than what mainstream media spoonfeeds you? no new wars yet.. not bad

I don't think that his statement was to say that Trump is currently bad.

I think he meant that he hopes that Trump loyalist will hold him accountable when he actually does fuck up, and not hamster an excuse for it.

[–]VirginiaPlain1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The_Donald is full of a**holes but don't hold them as representative of all Trump supporters. Plenty of Trump supporters are holding him accountable. We just won't hear of it on that sub or the equally cancerous subs like politics, news etc.

[–]Thatstunk 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was a Trump supporter. Voted for him in the election. However, Trump supporters are becoming fanatical. I have become disappointed. The problem was I had to vote between a douche and a turd

[–]EtCustodIpsosCustod [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Most Trump voters I've talked to voted against Hillary rather than for Trump. Hillary was a clear continuation of the deep state perpetual war/mass surveillance establishment, and Trump may or may not be.

For me, the nonstop criticism of Trump from hawkish neoconservatives is promising.

[–]ruleten 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obama is good cause dropping bombs and legal propaganda on your citizens is good.

Best president ever TV told me.

[–]DepletedMitochondria [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If media is any indication, they'll just keep spewing talking points. I've heard some expert deflections from Rush, Hannity, and the like on many things lately since they don't want to be seen as criticizing "their guy" who won.

[–]jacks1000 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People have been saying that since forever. What makes it different now?

The only difference is that now YOU yourself personally are thinking about "mass movements."

But you are not the center of the world or the universe or history.

[–]jacks1000 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (15子コメント)

So this PewDiePie had some stupid joke on his video, and then a Jewish reporter for the WSJ went to his sponsors and tried to get them to dump him by making up some absurd like that he was a "neo-nazi" and an "anti-semite."

All over what was obviously a joke.

We have a long tradition of Jewish comedians in the country - some of the funniest people around, Larry David, Seinfeld, many more too numerous to mention. We also have black comedians like Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle that trade in extremely edgy racial humor.

But as far as I know Jewish reporters don't go around trying to get them fired for making jokes about White people, Christians, Black people, Asian people, Latinos, LGBT, anyone.

Are Jews off limits to comedians now?

No one had a problem with Eddie Murphy's "Kill the White People" gimmick for SNL. In fact, "Kill the White People" was an actual pop punk song for a Jewish left wing band back in the 1980s.

PewDiePie isn't even political as far as I know.

Some people need to learn to take a fucking joke.

[–]courtrocksteady[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

NOFX! - Kill All The White People! They also did The Brews, about Jewish skinheads. Classic.

The extreme irony here is that my son is actually named Riley, which I got from a NoFX song- Life O' Riley.

[–]sushiconquistador [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Upvote for NOFX reference. Their music has really hit the spot during this last year!

[–]courtrocksteady[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Listen to Cobra Skulls, specifically Ode to Jefferson and especially Ice in the night. Shit is so good and relevant even though the songs are from like 2009.

[–]jacks1000 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah the two leads of NOFX are Jewish and they wrote serious anti-White, anti-European songs all the time. They are still praised in the Jewish press.

Blatant hypocrisy.

[–]DeathMetalDeath 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"it's not hypocrisy if it makes money" - globalist jews everywhere (unless its anti-semitic then we smear you.)

[–]pcreligion 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

'kill the white people' -- jewish band -- Oy vey.

[–]thebabyseagull 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the pewdepie thing is a bit deeper a tiff with a few Jewish journalists.

It was a primer attack to paint President Trump as anti semetic.

It was the same week that the Israeli PM visited the whitehouse.

The press tried to run with the antisemitic thing but it didn't wash.

The pewdepie thing earlier in the week was an attempt to drum hostility towards antisemitism in the media then channel this hostility towards the president.

[–]DepletedMitochondria [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Some people need to learn to take a fucking joke.

That doesn't get them the clicks to make money lol

[–]AGoodWordForOldGil [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"Jewish left wing band" huh?

Fuck this white pride bullshit. Go back to your rathole.

[–]jacks1000 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Have you ever heard NOFX? They were left wing and Jewish - they wrote very pro-Jewish songs.

Are you some kind of NAZI or something?

[–]talented 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anybody have the wallstreet journal post that was the supposed offender? I want to see for myself.

[–]InfiniteRelease [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-severs-ties-with-youtube-star-pewdiepie-after-anti-semitic-posts-1487034533

[–]talented [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you by the way.

I can see why Disney dropped him. They are getting more kid friendly over the years, so I can see that.

I guess the problem here may be that the Wall Street journal insinuates he is an anti-semite. Though, It doesn't look like anything they wrote is technically wrong. The manipulation I guess is the subtle narrative being built around the jokes.

As someone who doesn't give a shit either way. Don't know who PewDiePie is. I watched some of his videos defending himself, the guy fucked himself with these jokes if he is getting paid by Disney.

I don't think anybody was technically wrong in this situation. The argument for wallstreet journal is a continuous background narrative of anti-Semitism behind satire. The argument for PewDiePie is edgy satire and comedy is his life blood. The argument for Disney is that it doesn't belong in their media.

Edit: So does the spat come from whether the jokes are considered anti-Semitism? It could be argued either way. From the side of that he is dropping subtle hints based on just making the jokes or he is just being edgy.

[–]venCiere 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really inconvenient not to know what is going on all the time. Even scientific & medical sources are fraudulent. What a mess. But at least we know we can't believe anything they say.

[–]anaLog1989 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This put a smile on my face. First we will wake them ALL up, and then we will rise in a peaceful and methodical manner..

[–]aleister 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats! It's a proud moment to be sure. I brought my 13-year-old daughter to a conference recently. She was sitting at the booth with her laptop reading the news and a co-worker looking over her shoulder was blown away when she started researching the sources mentioned in the article. I think it red-pilled him a bit.

[–]MushroomDrawings 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who would of thought of all people pewdipie is waking up the youth. What a time to be alive.

[–]Rage_harles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ice cream tonight.

[–]_WorldNewsLies_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This kid deserves a some positive reinforcement on this! Ice cream night, or an afternoon at the arcade for this BASED young man!

(Because, let's face it... redpill that young WILL make those suckers drop!)

[–]polypolyguyguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just hope some future YouTube personality doesn't come out praising CNN for being the only trustworthy network. He might change his mind.

I hope you monitor his viewing habits. Children can be easily swayed.

[–]PEARSQUISHER 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's a proud father moment if I've ever heard one. Did you give him a hug and say "That's my boy!"?

[–]courtrocksteady[S] 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was a proud MOTHER moment. I'm his mom.

[–]PEARSQUISHER 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol sorry about that.

[–]Lizards_live 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As you should be. Keep it up!

[–]DeathMetalDeath 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

gen Z is gonna be alright i think.

[–]asgfgh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep in mind that young children only echo what they hear, and often don't come to their own conclusions based on fact, reason, and evidence.

[–]mastigia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I need to ping my kid sisters haha. I didn't want to interfere with the process.

[–]zechariahc 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You make it sound like a bad thing?

[–]courtrocksteady[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not at all. I was rather proud.

[–]facereplacer3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

High five!

[–]turbosympathique 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now multiply this by 1 000 000

[–]HenkHoden 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yo, what's the pewdiepie incident?

[–]krom_bom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's important that you stress that blanket generalisations are also a problem.

For instance, "the media" didn't really lie about PewdiePie, a few outlets did. Most news orgs didn't even talk about it.

But it's good that your son is learning to think for himself and not blindly trust authority.

[–]Thoutzan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Congrats !

[–]CanfaceMAGA [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He basically redpilled an entire generation. More people are seeing through the media bull shit every day. Wonderful of you to tell him to do his own research, btw.

[–]Fedorabro69 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

You need to understand something about the media. They're businesses, and in order to make money they need people to buy their publications and watch their news. This means that they will tell stories that they think their target audience will read. They want to evoke a reaction of some kind in their audience which is not dissimilar from what Internet trolls do.

At the same time, they usually don't tell outright lies. They just frame existing information in such a way as to get your attention.

You can still get very accurate information from the mainstream media if you know how to read it. The pewdiepie story was a pretty obvious grab for attention. It should have been ignored. Instead, everyone is talking about it which is what they were shooting for.

[–]jacks1000 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

they usually don't tell outright lies.

Actually they very often do.

[–]Fedorabro69 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Not really. Usually it's just misleading language or half truths rather than full on lies.

[–]jacks1000 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It's quite often outright lies.

[–]Fedorabro69 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Whatever, that wasn't even the main idea of my post. It changes nothing.

[–]dissdigg [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The main idea of your post was bullshit. And starting it out with the immature condescending line :

You need to understand something

doesn't help your case at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if the MSM is operating at a complete loss at the moment. They are losing viewership and ratings just to constantly push the outright lies to us. "They don't usually lie to us"? That's probably the most ignorant statements you can make in a sub like this.

[–]candycanejunglegym -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats you're as smart as an 11 year old

[–]unruly_mattress -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (16子コメント)

So essentially this Pewdiepie guy, who by the way I will never forgive any of you for making me watch 4 minutes of his videos, told your son that everything on TV is a lie. Your son then immediately believed him without hesitation, and you proceeded to laud his critical thinking and how he doesn't immediately believe everything he sees without questioning or looking for ulterior motives.

Did I get that right?

[–]whatmaidoinghere 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No you did not get it right.

[–]courtrocksteady[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Let me add a little more context here. When the PewDiePie news broke, I asked my son what's up withe PewDiePie drama, knowing that he was a fan. He went on to tell me that it was a joke taken out of context. I told him to do some research before forming his own opinion on the matter. And then I completely forgot about the conversation and never brought it up again. This morning he came at me with the stuff I wrote above. Apparently he did do some research and the most important thing he took from it was that if MSM lied or blew something like this out of proportion, what else do they lie about. He's a smart, logical kid.

I think it's also important to point out that I am like an anomaly in the conspiracy theorist "demographic". Middle aged, college educated, White, lesbian. The fact that I am woke also speaks volumes for our times.

[–]krom_bom [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

if MSM lied or blew something like this out of proportion, what else do they lie about

Maybe you should teach him that the "MSM" isn't a single entity, but a catch all term for many many many news outlets. The vast majority of those news outlets didn't even report on this stupid PewdiePie drama.

Maybe you should teach him that just because CNN is bad at reporting on things, that doesn't mean that NPR is bad at reporting things. Just for instance.

[–]dissdigg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

CNN and NPR are both bad, period. People see right through this crap dude, why do you bother? Just trying to boost the noise to signal at this point?

[–]hcmathis22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Practically every single major news media outlet is owned by one of 5 companies. So referring to those "many many many many" outlets is slightly off. It's all pretty bad at the moment.

[–]unruly_mattress [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If you go as politically incorrect as paying Africans a few dollars to hold a sign saying "death all all Jews" and dance, you're not going to be working with Disney. This is the way of the world. It's not even about antisemitism, it should be obvious to whoever is remotely in touch with what Disney should be looking for in terms of public image management.

If that makes your son think that everyone is lying about everything, without thinking of any alternatives, then you may like where he's got to but I wouldn't put it as doing meaningful research. You could introduce him to Hanlon's Razor if you care about his view of the world. Or you could ask him to explain to you why the media is conspiring against Pewdiepie.

[–]jacks1000 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He should have written a song called "Kill the White People" then he could be broadcast on the major TV networks.

[–]gambletillitsgone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

These were my thoughts exactly. Dad is proud because this time son has beliefs that match his own.

I think its dad actually has real conversations about what is what

[–]MusicMole -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

$0.02 in ShareBlue tendie bux has been allocated to your business account.

[–]unruly_mattress [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

WTF is ShareBlue. I've been told I'm in JIDF, Hasbarah, Langley, Eglin, CTR and that other one from a few weeks ago. I can't even keep up with you guys.

[–]jacks1000 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

JIDF, Hasbarah, Langley, Eglin, CTR

JIDF, hasbara, and CTR - sure. Your comments are perfectly in line with all that.

Langley? Um, I'm guessing no, no one actually told you that. They stuck to JIDF and Hasbara. Don't try to confuse the issue.

[–]unruly_mattress [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Do I fit ShareBlue though?

[–]jacks1000 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Of course.

But you are definitely not CIA, nor MI6. Your propaganda is shit-tier Democrat Zionism.

[–]unruly_mattress [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So which one is it? JIDF, Hasbarah, CTR, ShareBlue or Soros?

[–]elcad [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

He's helping to dominate the woman in your life?

[–]merlynmagus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The term actually is a reference to the movie The Matrix and not to that other sub and their views on women

[–]elcad [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not my fault people here keep using newspeak. Pretty sure they got the term from the movie as well.

[–]courtrocksteady[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What does this even mean?

[–]Spookypanda -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nice. Gotta indoctrinate those kids early!

[–]zangent [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Did you read the post? All it said is that OP's son heard about a story, researched it to find out the unbiased truth, and came to their own conclusions about what happened. What about that is indoctrination?

Although this was posted on /r/conspiracy, which has a bit of a bad reputation, the contents of this post are harmless and positive. Whether or not you agree with what Pewdiepie did, you have to give credit to a child who forms their own opinions.

Placing blind trust in a corporation (this goes for anyone, from Breitbart to CNN) is foolish. You don't have to be a "conspiracy theorist" to recognize that if you only see one side of a story, you're not getting the whole story.

[–]Spookypanda [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Actually. The post says the kid heard pewdiepie say something. And took it as fact. That's a super biased point of view being presented to an impressionable young person by someone of influence, which is being taken as fact. I guarantee this 11 year old kid does not understand the situation, but is parroting someone he looks up to.

[–]zangent [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm basing what I said on other posts OP's made, where she says that he went through the effort of researching multiple viewpoints.

I'm not sure how much of this an 11-year-old could understand, but it seems like he at least put effort into looking at multiple sources. I think that's definitely praise-worthy, considering his age. Investigating something rather than taking a single person's word for it is a mature thing to do. Obviously, he won't have the same insight into the situation that you and I have; I'm sure we both have experience discerning fact from fiction and opinion, and under that lens this post may not seem great, but everyone has to start critically thinking sometime. It looks like he's heading in the right direction, and he's probably not there yet, but I think this post is hardly "indoctrination."

Edit: I will admit, though, that I hold biases that are probably influencing how I view this. I distrust any corporate news agency, and I err strongly on the side of free speech instead of censorship. I view the child's conclusion positively, as it's the same conclusion that I came to, but I don't know that I'd react the same way if he decided that Felix was in the wrong.