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[HOUSING] Santa Monica 2br, $2395/mo (self.LAlist)

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Corner of 10th and Pacific. 2br 1ba.

It's a great unit, roommate and I are trying to add a friend and transfer to a 3br unit owned by the same landlord but they will only let us do so if we get someone to take our current place.

My roommate and I love the place, in my opinion unbeatable for the price. We did a lot of research before deciding and I've kept up with apt listings since, I haven't seen anything that beats it. Similar units are typically $2700-3000 a month.

Mediocre pictures, but gives an idea of what it's like.

Highlights:

Fiber internet available

Tons of easy street parking

Wood floor common areas, carpet in bedrooms

Near Lincoln, the 10, Expo line for easy transit (no street noise tho!)

1 year lease, month to month after - on Santa Monica rent control

No pets, no smoking

Looking for someone to take the lease as soon as March 1st.

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[–]RedCastilleja 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Beware of scams like these, people. If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't true. And if the scammer isn't willing to prove it is true then you can be 99.999% sure it is a scam.

[–]Cribbit[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (21子コメント)

EDIT:

You clearly don't understand housing if you're not willing to do anything in person. You can't determine whether anything is a scam or not without seeing it in person and meeting the landlord.

If I was asking for everything online then sure, call it a scam. I'm asking the exact opposite - stop wasting my time online, come in person. Meet the landlord, meet your neighbors, see the unit, see what your lease would look like, whatever, do it in person and stop being so ignorant about how the housing process works.

[–]RedCastilleja 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (20子コメント)

"...don't spread misinformation without proof."

Oh, the irony! You post a scam claiming to offer extremely low rent for an apartment in an extremely high demand area without offering any proof it is legitimate, and you accuse ME of spreading misinformation?! LOL!!

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (19子コメント)

You literally took an irrelevant code and snipped its quote to fit your narrative, then ignored me when I pointed it out.

As I pointed out, it's not "extremely" low rent, just a little below market rate. If you want to know more, come stop by in person and chat, same as everyone else does on any housing listing they are interested in.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Oh, you're right. I can just stop by 10th and Pacific and go to every building in the area to find the listing in question, since you won't post the address or contact information for the landlord.

Edit: how is that code I posted irrelevant? It says that landlords have to disclose their contact information. You aren't even willing to give us what we are legally entitled to, even if it will prove that this is not a scam. Your excuse that we need to go through you is irrelevant to this point. I just want to contact the landlord to find out if this is a scam before dealing with you.

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (16子コメント)

@your edit:

If you had read what I posted, that's for signing a lease not advertising one.

If you want to contact the landlord, come by, see the place, fill out an application and we'll go to their office together. It's literally a requirement of putting in your application, since the landlord is old school and needs to meet everyone before they even consider them.

Feel free to PM me to ask for it and set up a time, as several people have already done.

As I said and explained fully elsewhere (but you didn't read), I'm the point of contact for this.

Edit: Point of contact does not mean person doing the sale. I can see the confusion, but there's a difference between "call me and I'll get you a meeting with the landlord" (point of contact) and "call me and give me money" (point of sale).

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, I don't deal with scammers that use the excuse "I am the only person you can talk to about this transaction. No, it's not my property. No, I will not offer any proof that I have permission to show/rent this property. And of course NO, I will not let you talk to the one person who can prove that this is not a scam."

What I will do is warn other people of the signs of a scam and help them decide for themselves if it is worth trusting a stranger on the Internet with thousands of dollars with no proof that they will get anything in return.

[–]Cribbit[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If I was a scammer I could give you a phone number of a totally fake landlord. Calling, messaging online etc doesn't mean shit. Read craigslist's safety section. Know what it says?

Deal locally, face-to-face —follow this one rule and avoid 99% of scam attempts. Do not extend payment to anyone you have not met in person.

The only way to prove housing isn't a scam is to come in person. Meet the landlord, meet your neighbors, see the unit, see what your lease would look like, whatever, do it in person and stop being so ignorant about how the housing process works.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"The only way to prove housing isn't a scam is to come in person. Meet the landlord, meet your neighbors, see the unit, see what your lease would look like, whatever, do it in person and stop being so ignorant about how the housing process works."

Exactly my point. All we have right now is the appearance of someone running a scam on the Internet. You are still unwilling to offer the contact information needed to prove this isn't a scam. You keep saying I'm ignoring certain things, but I'm am making points about something else and you keep ignoring them to fit your narrative.

Let's just clear all of this up now: post the address and landlord's contact info here, not in a PM, and we can all be able to confirm with the actual landlord that it is okay to deal with you on her behalf. Unless you do this you are going to be labeled as a scammer.

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

His behalf. Also, still not reading anything I've said. If I were a scammer, I would just give you a fake number. It doesn't mean shit if you're not in person.

I don't really care what you think. I think I've shown my point.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

"As I said and explained fully elsewhere (but you didn't read), I'm the point of contact for this."

Oh, I read it. Our and over, I read it repeated in a couple of your posts. You honestly think that repeating a lie/scam over and over makes it true/legit?

If so, I have a bridge to sell you. I'm the point of contact so you better not contact the city of New York to confirm that the I'm the legitimate point of contact for this sale. Just trust me, I'm a fellow redditor!

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

So I say something you can't refute and you just jump to another thread, cute.

If I were a scammer, I would just give you a fake number. It doesn't mean shit if you're not in person.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe I ignored that fact that you keep deflecting by saying thing that have nothing to do with my argument. I never asked for a phone number, I asked for an address and contact information. You know, a way to contact the landlord and set up a time to meet in person.

Convenient that you keep avoiding giving us the information we need to prove (or disprove) that this is a scam.

[–]Cribbit[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

you keep deflecting by saying thing that have nothing to do with my argument

I think they call this "projection"

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, you keep saying "too good to be true". If that's the case, why aren't all of these filled yet? http://roque-mark.com/twobed.htm

The unit is a good deal, but it's not like it's unbelievable.

[–]oh_no_aliens 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

$2400 a mo?? Dems a steal.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Please post the address and landlord's contact information.

This seriously sounds like a scam, and the other person that mentioned the possibility of a scam got downvoted pretty quick.

So, I'd like to debunk the scam accusation, and prove myself wrong about your bot farm.

If the landlord really does want to rent this place they won't mind you sharing their contact information.

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I actually upvoted the guy.

What makes you think it's a scam? You can read my response to the other guy, if you want to refute any of it feel free.

[–]RedCastilleja 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Well, considering you aren't willing to disclose the landlord's contact information to prove that this is legitimate, there's a big red flag right there.

Legally, we are welcome to that information, and you attempting to conceal it shows that you're hiding something.

"CHAPTER 4. Identification of Property Owners"

"This chapter shall apply to every dwelling structure containing one or more units offered to the public for rent or for lease for residential purposes."

"Any owner of a dwelling structure specified in Section 1961 or a party signing a rental agreement or lease on behalf of the owner shall do all of the following:"

"[...]"

"Disclose therein the name, telephone number, and address of the person or entity to whom rent payments shall be made."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=CIV&division=3.&title=5.&part=4.&chapter=4.&article=

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's for signing leases and is completely unrelated to listing places.

I'm not giving out their contact info because I'm the point of contact to get this lease. It's not an open listing, if no one wants to take it I keep living here. For the process I'm attempting to do the landlord expects me to do all the legwork of finding new tenants.

Again - look at my responses to the other guy. My only gain from this is already laid out in my original post.

[–]RedCastilleja 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

So, you admit that you're not willing to prove that this is not a scam. Okay.

[–]Cribbit[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's not what I said, and I think anyone with basic reading comprehension can see that.

[–]RedCastilleja 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

And I never said that you said it. I said it. You're a scammer and are unwilling to show proof otherwise.

Looks like you're the one with reading comprehension problems.

[–]Cribbit[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're openly ignoring the proof that I give.

[–]RedCastilleja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"...ignoring the proof that I give."

My bad. What proof do you offer that actually proves this is legitimate?

[–]Cribbit[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I pointed out, it's not "extremely" low rent, just a little below market rate. If you want to know more, come stop by in person and chat, same as everyone else does on any housing listing they are interested in.

[–]hotvomitmilkshake -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This sounds super shady.

1) there's no 2 bedrooms for 2395/mo in Santa Monica unless you moved in 5 years ago and had rent control.

2) if this person moves out, and it was rent controlled, the landlord can now charge market rate (above 3k)

At worst this is an absolute scam. At best they're subletting it without landlord permission.

[–]Cribbit[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not a sublet, you would be getting your own lease direct from the landlord.

You are correct that "market" rate would be $2700-3000 a month. We moved in a month ago at $2395 and our landlord has indicated that they would charge the same rate for whoever took the lease, as long as they signed the one year lease.

The landlord is rather antiquated and does not advertise their units well. This leads to less people seeing it than they're used to from pre-internet times, which leads to them offering lower rents. Most of the tenants in the building have been there for decades. I replaced a couple that had lived there for thirty years and only moved out due to needing an elder care home. The landlord seems to just want the stable income more than anything.

I'm not moving out so much as moving next door, if the 3br in this building had been available when we moved into this 2br we would have taken it instead.