"Money is part of who a man is" according to women

[WOTGMParticipant 229]

I was arguing with this broad that when a man finds a woman physically attractive, at least that’s part of her. Even if it’s only physical, it’s still HER that he’s attracted to.

She goes on to tell me “Well, when a woman finds a man attractive because he has money or a great career, that’s part of who he is too!”.

She really did not want to hear how a job has NOTHING to do with who a man is. Not a damn thing. But this is how they justify their actions, folks.

In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.

But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.

The way women look at a guy’s career…if we equated that to how men look at a woman based on her looks, it’d be equal to us expecting to find a young Cindy Crawford every time we went out.

But men don’t expect Cindy Crawford. Sure, we want and need to find someone who we are ATTRACTED to but we don’t expect the world. If we find a woman attractive enough, we’ll give her a shot.

Women though? FORGET IT! They expect to find a guy who makes a 6 figure salary, has the perfect look, etc. THEY WANT IT ALL even if they aren’t that great themselves!

In other words, what women want in a guy is equal to us wanting to find Cindy Crawford every time we went out! They are COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL.

What’s even MORE hysterical is they want it all, and will give you NOTHING in return except their holes. They’ll be pain in the asses to you, complain, make trouble for you, and if you marry them, they’ll screw up your life later on BIG TIME!

I cannot believe women though would have the nerve to say “money is part of who a man is”. What the fuck is wrong with these bimbos? Do they really believe that? Or do they know it’s bullshit, but they want to justify their shitty behavior?

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1326]

“You are not your job, you’re not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You’re not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”
– Tyler Durden, Fight Club

Two minor quibbles with your entirely excellent post.

WOTGM wrote:

In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.

There are 95 million Americans out of the labor force. Real unemployment in the States, Obama lies to the contrary, are about 25+% for adults and 40-45% for young adults (the same as most of Europe, which makes sense because of similar wages). So I disagree with you there.

Another minor point. I am my career . . . which derailed some time ago. I loved what I did, lived and breathed it, and it defined completely who I was as a person. Which doesn’t make me special in any way. It just means that my hobby and love (accounting, operations, finance) happened to be something that paid well. Most people aren’t that lucky. But some bitch like you’re talking about would have *no fucking clue* about anything like that. None. She’d think I chose my profession to make money, which is bullshit. I actually would be making more, and more steadily, as an engineer. I started taking accounting classes, at night, and fucking fell in love. I found my goddamn metier. But no bitch on Earth would even vaguely fucking get that. To her, everyone should fucking do whatever the fuck serves her ass best, and that’s what a career is.

Fuck her.

Awesome post, and forgive the minor quibbles. I’m tired. Seriously – awesome fucking post. You completely get it. Women have no goddamn clue, at all, about work, career, love, anything even vaguely like that. Many men just have a fucking job to pay bills and that is totally fine. But she doesn’t understand anything about any of it.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 6949]

Just remember a “modern” woman can never live up to the standard she sets for a man.

[trader1913Participant 418]

This is a pointless distinction to make. Men value youth and fertility in women, Women value looks, money, status in men. Her youth and fertility being a part of her is irrelevant because what men and women want stem from biology; it is fundamentally shallow.

Women want more and more because of societal advancement. Women can now also earn their own money, so they now want a man with even more money. You will notice that a female doctor will almost always be married to a man that is a male doctor or higher in terms of earning; it is HYPERGAMY.

I do not see women’s behaviour as shitty or good; i see their behaviour as bad for MEN. So i go MGTOW.

[Peace Love and BBQParticipant]

I think what she was eluding to is that men of skill, intelligence and resources is a turn on to women.

That is why the mgtow effect is a very real danger to our mgtow bros.

I’ve uncunted, living the life of a quiet monk playing guitar on my lunch hour.

I found this remote corner of the building. Nobody used to go there.. now ten women are camping out to hear me practice guitar. I’m getting good. Must be the Spanish music, my uncle said was a real “juicer of the music.” I find the music dynamic and adventurous.

It’s starting to get annoying.
I just bought an new folding chair for my car and plan on camping out on top of the parking garage in better weather for lunch. Keep moving to avoid the leaches of women who want a high paid IT guy who drives a sports car, plays Spanish guitar and is divorcing. The milfs come out of the woodwork.

My young dr. pal who is into the male purity movement has is difficult to. He’s very good looking… He’ll be in a coffee house reading and some gal will plop down right in front of him.

His latest thing.. he tells them he is HIV positive.
The run!

You should see his Father laugh when he tells that.
His dad was divorce raped and does not want his son to marry.
So my bro is going to work until about 45 then go “Johnnie apple seed.”

For me, passing on a genetic line is not important.
I did once. No more.

I think the planet will be a horror in 50 years.

A man from China came to my lake house.. and he was amazed at the place. He showed me a picture of the rathole they are all crammed into. The USA will get like that beyond my death.

So the female hypergamy just IS brother.
Do not fault them for it. Just understand it.
That’s the thing.. we would not be bothered that water is wet.
Instead.. we can turn it to ice..a different state.
Manless women are the most unhappy creatures on the planet.
Do NOT marry them.

I did like my Uncles life.. he had a harem of widows, all treating him like a king.

He used to have garden parties with six of them at a time and invite a few bros, who were left.

The women were just happy to be out of their apartment cages.

My uncle said that women can be enjoyable in small doses in later life, but no more than three hours…they then lose control and turn back in the miserable old bitches they are.

I used to work with a few older ladies.. nice on the surface, but later, backstab you. This one lady backstabbed me..but later I was promoted into her area..she now enjoys looking at the floor for life. I did nothing to her…it was just her nature.. and water is wet my brothers…I cannot be angry at h2o, for it cannot be anything other than God/nature created. And so it goes with women.

WOMEN JUST ARE….

ARE… AS IS… AND WILL BE FOREVER.

Be happy mgtow.com is giving you the play book of life to have a wonderfully free life. So many men uncunting.

Embrace your male life sovereignty…
and the awakened while married, like me.. we keep making daily steps.. paying down debts, finishing the dad years.. Getting promoted at work…

Our journeys continue and our ships all sail in the same direction built from the solid hard oak timbers of mgtow.com with keymaster as global fleet commander.

And life is good.

We return to a time when the hearts of men looked to the adventure of the open sea or open road in our case.. mgtow road… and our lives are better.

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[Peace Love and BBQParticipant]

Embrace the beauty of your life mgtow life.
Retaking your freedom and YOUR life can now be anything you want it to be. YOU are commander of your own ship.

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[trader1913Participant 418]

Peace Love and BBQ wrote:

Embrace the beauty of your life mgtow life.
Retaking your freedom and YOUR life can now be anything you want it to be. YOU are commander of your own ship.

A lot of men in the anger phase refuse to accept men and women for what they are. They think that women wanting money is ‘wrong’ and that a ‘good’ women wouldnt do that. No it is not good or bad, it is what women are. If you cannot accept the underlying behavioural tendencies of men and women then you will never get out of the anger phase.

[phoenixParticipant 8204]

WOTGM wrote:

In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.

That guy you’re busy judging as a jobless slacker, he’s fucking the shit out of that girl that you’re busy arguing with and trying to convince you’re better than him.

You claim money doesn’t matter, then immediately insist it matters when you think it helps you. That’s the problem with the vast majority of unattractive men with mediocre at best jobs. You’re not sexually attractive so the physical attraction isn’t there, you’re not extremely successful so the financial attraction isn’t there, and you have a shitty personality so there is no attraction on that level either.

At some point you can’t just sit there whining about women and trying to pretend you don’t want them when you clearly wrote a novel trying to justify why you think women should be attracted to you. MGTOW don’t argue with women and don’t make excuses for why women aren’t attracted to us—-to be perfectly frank, most of us are trying to figure out ways to keep them from noticing us and bothering us, because we don’t really want them.

[tommi190Participant 3012]

WOTGM wrote:

But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.

The women that belong to that category will be the most bitter in their 40’s and 50’s when they hit the wall. Sometimes even earlier, like when they’re 30 something. They start to lose their looks and get less attention from men.

They should have taken what they could get when they were younger and beautiful. But because they were greedy, they got nothing, and now have to be bitter every day until the end.

I just feel bad for the cats who have to live with them. The bitter hags might mistreat them because men avoid them and they have to take their anger out on something.

Women are only oppressed by their own mental health issues - Gargamel. This needs to be repeated over and over again: western women are the most privileged group of people in the world. If they are oppressed, they're ONLY oppressed by Their Own Mental Health Issues!

[InRedPillWeTrustParticipant 916]

I honestly think today’s woman, seriously choose money, then looks, then personality and so on, With all the options via technology… tinder, FB, insta, Snapchat, plus being programmed, they know they can have a side piece chad to pump in a milisecond. I also believe they have become better at keeping Chad a secret, in past they fall in emotional love, I think in today’s times they have adapted very well, I see this first hand. Chads will always be Chads, mostly wreckless Meathole Pumping machines…the females have adapted to keep there chads and change there tactics to be stealthy and cover all bases..they need Beta providers money, but they need Chads Meathammer, they have adapted to change.

No Fucks Given

[trader1913Participant 418]

Please take this advice OP. Your first mistake was arguing with a woman. Never argue with women.

InRedPillWeTrust wrote:

I honestly think today’s woman, seriously choose money, then looks, then personality and so on, With all the options via technology… tinder, FB, insta, Snapchat, plus being programmed, they know they can have a side piece chad to pump in a milisecond. I also believe they have become better at keeping Chad a secret, in past they fall in emotional love, I think in today’s times they have adapted very well, I see this first hand. Chads will always be Chads, mostly wreckless Meathole Pumping machines…the females have adapted to keep there chads and change there tactics to be stealthy and cover all bases..they need Beta providers money, but they need Chads Meathammer, they have adapted to change.

You are correct that women have adapted their strategies. Men must also adapt their strategies by going MGTOW. This is a gender war, women have taken men for granted and men are sending them a message. No one wants you anymore.

[DukeTogaParticipant 982]

Nothing is more evil than taking down a man – whom has everything to die in peace. Than unknowingly in sad way examplar of a implusive mind -rip that very sucess -instanly, take away his family, his self respect and his honor – that spark of life.. this happens daily. Mgtow is the force. A force of justice. The scale has been tilted for to long.

[WOTGMParticipant 229]

phoenix wrote:

WOTGM wrote:

In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.

That guy you’re busy judging as a jobless slacker, he’s fucking the shit out of that girl that you’re busy arguing with and trying to convince you’re better than him.

You claim money doesn’t matter, then immediately insist it matters when you think it helps you. That’s the problem with the vast majority of unattractive men with mediocre at best jobs. You’re not sexually attractive so the physical attraction isn’t there, you’re not extremely successful so the financial attraction isn’t there, and you have a shitty personality so there is no attraction on that level either.

At some point you can’t just sit there whining about women and trying to pretend you don’t want them when you clearly wrote a novel trying to justify why you think women should be attracted to you. MGTOW don’t argue with women and don’t make excuses for why women aren’t attracted to us—-to be perfectly frank, most of us are trying to figure out ways to keep them from noticing us and bothering us, because we don’t really want them.

I don’t know what you’re talking about regarding money. I said money should not matter, but if you’re a moocher and don’t want to earn a living THEN it’s ok to judge someone for that. How is that in any way hypocritical? Being a moocher is not the same as someone who puts in an honest days work.

As for not being physically attractive and having a “shitty” personality…wrong and wrong. I happen to be very attractive physically, and my personality is very good. You think women give a shit about that bro? Seriously, examine the pie chart again. It’s 5% personality, 5% looks, and 90% how much money and status you have. That’s not “whining” that’s truth.

And what’s your deinition of “extremely successful”? I have zero debt, car paid off, and a job that I love. I just don’t make 6 figures. Is that how you define what “successful” is? To each their own. I’m a huge success in my own eyes but that doesn’t mean shit to women.

The “jobless slacker” might be that scumbag who bangs a lot of whores, but my post was more regarding relationships/long term/marriages. Of course I’m aware that scumbags lower than dirt bang women. That’s the problem with me and so many other guys. We are the “average joe’s” that don’t have any angle with women.

We’re not scumbags (which women love, but only to bang) and we’re not super-rich (the guys women want to marry while they fuck scumbags on the side). We’re BORING. And by boring, I don’t mean personality-wise. We’re boring TO HER because she craves DRAMA AND BIG BUCKS which something average joe’s lack in both categories. That doesn’t mean our personalities are “shitty”. It just means we’re not super-rich, and we’re not scumbags.

I’m very attractive but I’m not into one night stands. I guess that’s why my anger towards women is higher than a typical physically attractive guy. I think hooking up is disgusting and trust me when I say I’ve had plenty of chances to do it with nice looking women.

I definitely am doing better in the anger department after coming here, but yes, I admit I have more work to do because as long as I feel anger towards women, they still have some power over me. Your last sentence was very good (regarding not wanting to be bothered by women). That’s where I hope to be at some point. Coming here helps. Thanks.

[WOTGMParticipant 229]

tommi190 wrote:

WOTGM wrote:

But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.

The women that belong to that category will be the most bitter in their 40’s and 50’s when they hit the wall. Sometimes even earlier, like when they’re 30 something. They start to lose their looks and get less attention from men.

They should have taken what they could get when they were younger and beautiful. But because they were greedy, they got nothing, and now have to be bitter every day until the end.

I just feel bad for the cats who have to live with them. The bitter hags might mistreat them because men avoid them and they have to take their anger out on something.

I agree with what you said, but I never looked at a woman going for me as “settling for less”. If a woman and I got along great, but she passed on me to try and get some rich guy she had less of a connection with, I don’t think she’s “doing better” even if she gets that guy.

I think it’s better to go for a guy based on what type of connection you have with him, rather than what’s in his bank account.

But of course, to a woman, a man’s worth is measured ONLY by how much money he makes, and that’s why women end up so sad and miserable later in their life. They bring it all on themselves, you can’t feel an ounce of sorrow for them.

The way I see it is, I don’t need to make more money. They need to change how they go about finding a partner, because how they try to find a partner in todays world (money based) will almost ALWAYS lead to them being sad and miserable. But they won’t change. They’ll never change, not in my lifetime. So fuck ’em.

[Peace Love and BBQParticipant]

Mgtow is the force. A force of justice. The scale has been tilted for to long.

Yes, over half a century of bullshit.

Knowing that you now see women just as they ARE…
With that fact… you can now free your life and stay clear.

Once you uncunt after a few months life is better.
I’m still having great luck just playing guitar non stop.. reading music and enjoying my life again.

Why guitars are better than women.. and a nice distraction to shut your lizard brain up…

You don’t have to get guitars drunk before playing with them.
Nobody will get mad at you when you trade in your old, used guitar for a new, younger model.
Your guitar only makes sounds when YOU want it to.
Guitars have volume knobs. Telling your girlfriend to be quiet will have different results.
Nobody cares if you play with 2 guitars at the same time.
Playing with other people’s guitars is fun. Playing with someone else’s girl has consequences.
Women come and go. Your guitar will always be there for you.
Try turning on a woman as fast as you can turn on your amp.
Guitars never complain or say they have a headache when you want to play with it.
Guitars dont care if you forget their birthday.

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[InRedPillWeTrustParticipant 916]

@trader yes no doubt a gender war, its like a fucking mega arms race, they def have the bigger cache of weapons but they will fuck it up..cause woman. We men are definately way more capable of seeing the end game better than them.

No Fucks Given

[WOTGMParticipant 229]

Peace Love and BBQ wrote:

Mgtow is the force. A force of justice. The scale has been tilted for to long.

Yes, over half a century of bullshit.

Knowing that you now see women just as they ARE…
With that fact… you can now free your life and stay clear.

Once you uncunt after a few months life is better.
I’m still having great luck just playing guitar non stop.. reading music and enjoying my life again.

Why guitars are better than women.. and a nice distraction to shut your lizard brain up…

You don’t have to get guitars drunk before playing with them.
Nobody will get mad at you when you trade in your old, used guitar for a new, younger model.
Your guitar only makes sounds when YOU want it to.
Guitars have volume knobs. Telling your girlfriend to be quiet will have different results.
Nobody cares if you play with 2 guitars at the same time.
Playing with other people’s guitars is fun. Playing with someone else’s girl has consequences.
Women come and go. Your guitar will always be there for you.
Try turning on a woman as fast as you can turn on your amp.
Guitars never complain or say they have a headache when you want to play with it.
Guitars dont care if you forget their birthday.

Yeah and you can also stuff a guitar in your car trunk and not worry about the police coming after you. Great post! 🙂

[sidecarParticipant 16803]

WOTGM wrote:

She goes on to tell me “Well, when a woman finds a man attractive because he has money or a great career, that’s part of who he is too!”.

Only to a whore.

I may be identifying myself here, but what the hell. My janitor makes huge kinetic sculptures out of scrap iron and logs and stuff. Cleaning bathrooms is just his day job. He’s pretty good. I have two of his larger pieces in my yard. To myself and other men he’s a sculptor.

But women will never see him as anything other than a janitor.

And they have the nerve to call Men shallow?

[InRedPillWeTrustParticipant 916]

Honestly though, im not worried cause if Mgtow, and groups and individuals that adapt RedPill Grow to huge numbers…there future will pretty much be a whole bunch of Chris Chans. Game over, Man wins

No Fucks Given

[InRedPillWeTrustParticipant 916]

The pool will be empty and dry ladies. We will be at the Isle of Mgtow.

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