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[–]activatedalmondzNeoreactionary 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The problem with global white supremacy is that it is the domination and subjugation of other peoples. That is anachronistic. It's signalling to others that you're not above a little murder and theft when it suits you.

The principle concern of the alt right should be self-government. And that doesn't just mean for whites, but for all peoples. The concept of trying to "civilize" Africans is just another way of saying you want to make them into Europeans. That isn't ever going to happen, and attempts to do so will, and are, resulting in disaster.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The biggest problem that I see with this is that even if we wish to take the "moral highroad", the Chinamen will not. They're already colonizing Africa, and I guarantee they will treat the Negroes far worse than we ever did.

[–]activatedalmondzNeoreactionary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is a difficult problem, I'll give you that. Africa is rich with bountiful natural resources, yet the native population cannot exploit them. How do we resolve this problem?

Do we colonize the native population, harvest their resources, and in return, provide them with good government, technology and infrastructure; or do we let the Chinese do this, and purchase those goods from their corporations?

I think the best thing we can do right now is to just let private corporations do what they will to maximize their profits. But, official, imperial domination, is off the table.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the best thing we can do right now is to just let private corporations do what they will to maximize their profits. But, official, imperial domination, is off the table.

The problem with that is the imperialism is a damn good business. For both sides, really.

[–]activatedalmondzNeoreactionary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem with this is that imperialism is a damn good business over our own nations. Globalization has destroyed our own cultures, ethnic compositions, and all the rest of it. Given the dismay and despair this has produced for us, why perpetrate it to another group?

[–]chewingofthecudReactionary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But, official, imperial domination, is off the table.

This is one of the least recognized, and most serious, political problems in the modern world.

[–]lipidsly 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Quite right. Its about being left alone and forging your own destiny, not ruling others.

[–]-Reactionary_Vizier-Rhodesian 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I think a restoration of empire would be great. especially over the Persian Gulf oilfields.

But I don't think society should be totally white supremacist. Talented non-white individuals should be allowed to pursue their professions or education unmolested, as individuals. I would oppose white supremacism insofar as it was gratuitously anti-meritocratic in its treatment of individual nonwhite citizens, but racially discriminatory immigration policies would be a very good thing.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Are you actually a Rhodesian? That's pretty cool.

[–]-Reactionary_Vizier-Rhodesian 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

My father is. He was in the Bush War too as a paratrooper, slaughtering commie gooks by the dozen. Very cool. Poor old uncle just got some shitty garrison where most of the troops were low quality and black, he can't stand blacks at all now it's hilarious.

I don't even feel that I want to be pro-white in my politics, I just have to be to oppose the left's nasty agenda. They are destroying every nation and culture of ours and the false god of equality will never be satisfied until it is all gone.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't even feel that I want to be pro-white in my politics

None of us do to tell you the truth, but not being explicitly pro-white overtime will lead to the anti-white agenda being implemented.

[–]lipidsly 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same for me. For lack of a better phrase, the leftists have made it such a black and white issue that I cant be anything but.

[–]TomHicksTradcon leaning Capitalist MRA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

slaughtering commie gooks by the dozen.

Vietnamese were involved in the Rhodesian Bush War?

[–]-Reactionary_Vizier-Rhodesian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's just that term for commie terrorists spread from the Vietnam War to the Bush War. I know there were a few American mercenaries fighting in the Rhodesian side.

[–]Kamaria 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even feel that I want to be pro-white in my politics, I just have to be to oppose the left's nasty agenda. They are destroying every nation and culture of ours and the false god of equality will never be satisfied until it is all gone.

Why do you feel this way? I wouldn't say I'm strong left anymore but I only think that we should allow equal opportunity for all races, which we still have much to progress with. I don't support unmitigated immigration, however I do support taking on who we can after going through the proper channels.

[–]Saidsker -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Imperialism? In this day and age.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imperialism never really stopped, it just evolved from physical subjugation to economic.

We can see the Chinese taking over parts of Canada and Australia right now.

[–]Saidsker 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it's how you make money.

[–]11111100100 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Strongest reason would be because it is wrong and hideously expensive in lives, resources and cultural impact (creating millions of killers going back into society is going to have severe effects).

Even assuming we're psycopaths who don't care about murdering people and taking their stuff: it doesn't work.

We've tried this. Savage people didn't become improved by us, we got degraded by them.

It's also not particularly useful. We don't need more land, we've got plenty of it. We don't need resources, we can just trade for them. We certainly don't need slave labor.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Even assuming we're psycopaths who don't care about murdering people and taking their stuff: it doesn't work.

Except it did, colonialism was a huge boon to European society. At the very least because it allowed us to expand our empire and acquire more resources.

Also, who has said anything about murdering people?

[–]ChangeOfWindAgainst All Ideologies 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except it did, colonialism was a huge boon to European society.

It really wasn't. We could have taken the resources without trying to civilise Africans, which was a complete waste of time.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We didn't really try to civilize Africans, we just built infrastructure for the white rulers.

[–]ChangeOfWindAgainst All Ideologies 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We taught them our languages, we tried to have them adopt our institutions (with hilarious results).

[–]Mundane_BatrachianWhite Nationalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is an excellent point.

Que bono?

[–]CAPS_4_FUN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

We don't need more land, we've got plenty of it.

No we don't. Europe is incredibly tiny. Texas alone is like 2/3 of the entire size of Europe.

[–]11111100100 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No we don't. Europe is incredibly tiny. Texas alone is like 2/3 of the entire size of Europe.

Europe isn't the only white land.

[–]thealtright 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Europe is the only native white land, there are white countries outside of Europe though.

[–]dux667 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Texas land mass: 695,662 km², Europe land mass : 10.18 million km². It's not even close ... do you not have access to google before you spout that shit?

[–]Yoge5 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a nationalistic american, of course he's fucking ignorant about the rest of the world.

[–]SurfTheKaliYugaThe Organic State 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We should just let nature take it's course. "Civilizing" the Africans has only led to them breeding into unsustainable numbers while maintaining their sub 80 IQs.

[–]activatedalmondzNeoreactionary 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the record of charity and compassion to Africa. A calamity for civilization.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lets be clear though, I was not talking about giving Africans gibs or trying to bring them to the level of whites. I was talking about using them to harvest natural resources, much like what happened in the Congo.

[–]IMULTRAHARDCORE 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really approve of needless war.

[–]dorfmanletWhite Nationalist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because that makes us no better than them, which in turn makes white supremacy in itself a fault.

[–]HinduPepe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Colonialism = Globalism

[–]Desay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone in the Western world wants whites to step in and help them out and give them stuff. I see no reason not to extend that courtesy worldwide. Sure we could stand back and let them implode and destroy their lands. Or we could offer our own brand of sensible nation building. But. Not a priority.

[–]ItsTheKikes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because what's to stop Asians or Jews from claiming they have the right to conquer whites if they can get away with it?

Good fences make good neighbors.

[–]_The_Burn_Neo-Confederate 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a white nationalist, I say it would be a hassle. Let them run their nations how they wish. I don't care about them.

[–]UFSC[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Because thinking you're superior because of accomplishments you had nothing to do with is absurd. Also no matter what race you are taking pride in it is dumb.

[–]CAPS_4_FUN 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

there is a huge difference between thinking and believing you are superior versus organizing for and working towards actual supremacy. Europeans didn't conquer the world because they "believed in supremacy", they conquered because they actually achieved it.

[–]UFSC[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah I just am more of a individualist I geuss. Apathy also plays a role. As long as the human race moves on I don't give a shit about the amount of melanin in the average person.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

don't give a shit about the amount of melanin in the average person

Seems legit.

[–]Yoge5 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comparing ugly black people with beautiful white people as an argument for race

This is beyond retarded.

[–]UFSC[🍰] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I could make the same thing but have attractive black people and ugly white people what are you trying to say? Personally I find mixed people some of the most attractive people on earth. And even if future generations aren't seen as attractive as long as society keeps chugging it shouldn't be an issue.

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Um... I hate to break it to you buddy, but your cummies aren't the only thing that matter. Lowering the IQ of our population will destroy our countries.

[–]thealtright 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And even if future generations aren't seen as attractive as long as society keeps chugging it shouldn't be an issue.

Societies are dependent in many ways to the race(s) they are composed of and even if that wasn't the case the genocide of any race is not a good or acceptable thing.

[–]HinduPepe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. They conquered it through disease, genocide, and savagery.

[–]CAPS_4_FUN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's still conquest...

[–]NESIRGNIKNeoreactionary[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not talking about thinking I'm superior, I'm talking about making sure we are superior.

See the difference?

[–]UFSC[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I get the message.

[–]gwenthen -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

One problem is the meaning of "white". After subjecting or exterminating blacks and hispanics in the US, for example, white people will begin turning to one another for scapegoating. Are gay, lesbian, or bi white people truly white? What about Jews? Catholics? Jehovah's Witnesses? Socialists? Women who aren't sufficiently feminine? Men who aren't sufficiently masculine? The disabled? People of mixed race? And on and on and on.

What the alt-right means by "white" is actually an archetype, or maybe several archetypes. The degree to which someone conforms to that archetype is the degree to which that person is white. But where to draw the line is completely arbitrary. In fact, the archetypes themselves are completely arbitrary. It isn't based on reason or moral principles because people who want society to be based primarily on demagoguery and jingoism are neither reasonable nor moral. There is therefore only one way to settle this-violence. All nationalist, supremacist cultures destroy themselves from their own violence. It wouldn't have mattered if Germany had won WWII and entered into a Cold War with the US. To maintain the momentum of a revolutionary movement, one has to constantly deploy the same level of demagoguery and jingoism to keep the nationalism alive. Otherwise, people will simply find other things to do than wave flags and turn their Jewish neighbors into the Gestapo. The violence can only go outward for so long-the resources, personnel, and will to fight being strained across broad stretches of the planet. It either continues expanding and dissipates or collapses in on itself like Rome, or it has to turn inward and use those weapons against its own people. This is what has happened in North Korea. If you go to North Korea, you notice that they constantly play revolutionary music in public places, and live as if they're frozen in time. North Korea can't expand outward, and to maintain revolutionary fervor within they use the fear of totalitarianism combined with music, marches, demonstrations, assassinations and work camps, etc to maintain power over their own population.

The other problem is the idea that the people of Africa, the Middle East, and South America are savages and not civilized. This of course, depends on your values. If you read the descriptions of the countless indigenous cultures made by European explorers, missionaries, conquistadores, and other genocidists, you'll find that many of the cultures they plundered were actually quite peaceful. They were sustainable, living mostly in harmony with the ecology of their respective environments and were more healthy than the Europeans indicated by their tallness, cleanliness, fitness, beauty, and longevity. There were some indigenous cultures that were extremely violent and warlike (not that this justifies them being exterminated by a people even more violent and warlike from half way across the world), but most weren't. There are innumerable instances of Euro-American settlers and pioneers who voluntarily went to live with indigenous tribes. When the puritans would exchange prisoners of war with natives, the puritans captured by the natives would have to go back in chains, and would frequently run off to rejoin the indians, but the indians captured by the puritans would happily go back to their native families.

The savage, barbaric people are those busy bodies who think they should be concerned with how people live on other continents (of course, nobody goes half way around the world to "civilize" anyone-this is always just a cover for resource plunder, enslavement, and other crimes against humanity because the people who do things like this are too morally and spiritually impoverished to even admit outright what they're doing). I think people who cultivate warrior cultures and rape and steal are savage and barbaric. And the most prolific people to do all of these things, are white people.

[–]sixsexsixIdentitarian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the alt-right means by "white" is actually an archetype, or maybe several archetypes.

No. Our definition is genetically based.