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MGTOW and female disapproval

By Anja Eriud 479 Comments
Yes I know: what would I, a female, know about the myriad factors that go into a male decision to Go His Own Way, or a male orientating his life to minimise or lessen, if not outright avoid, any engagement with women? It’s a fair point and the answer is: I don’t know. I can respect that decision and acknowledge that this man has the right to live his life anyway he chooses, but I really cannot get inside his head and feel what he feels or has felt.
Okay, having said that, this is not what this is about, this is about shining a bit of a spotlight on why some women, sometimes feminists, sometimes not, seem to have this visceral negative reaction to MGTOW, why some females take it upon themselves to pour scorn and vitriol on the heads of these men.
Actually the clue is in the acronym – Men Going Their Own Way. Now whether or not women will admit it, the fact is for a lot of women there is no male “way” because men only live by the grace and favour of women. Without that grace and favour men will be made feel the full force of female disapproval, which manifests itself in many ways, from the violent to the relatively benign – ever seen a women convey her disapproval of a male action by a slight pursing of her lips, a slight stiffening of her body? I am betting we have all seen this happen to a man or boy, and have noticed an immediate change in the behaviour of that man or boy.
Of course female disapproval can and does manifest itself in much more direct, abusive and violent ways, but the point is that women feel they reserve the right to arbitrate and exercise approval of male actions, male behaviour, and in fact male autonomy.
Our modern society is now exclusively orientated towards achieving, obtaining and accommodating this female approval. MGTOW comprehensively rejects and delegitimizes any necessity for female approval or sanction. MGTOW is men thumbing their noses, giving the finger to the notion that men live by the grace and favour of women. It literally pulls the rug out from under the feet of women who, whether consciously or not, have internalised the idea that men are a resource for women, that men live and die to serve women’s needs, wants and whims, that men have no other function but to be at the beck and call of women, but only if and when a woman decides she had some need that a man is obliged to answer and/or fill.
MGTOW quite clearly asserts that there is a male “way” and that the default female “My way or the highway” cultural norm is now being rejected, dismissed as basically a mirage, an illusion.
The universal pedestal that the vast majority of women believe they stand upon is crumbling beneath their feet, the illusion that they occupy some rarefied higher plane of existence in relation to men is shattered, and the self absorbed and egotistical belief that men live for and in service to women is… a joke.
MGTOW is literally a slap in the face for women. It is saying to women in clear unequivocal terms – “you are not really all that!”
Of course there is another deeper and more subtle message that MGTOW conveys that is precipitating the current spewings from female voices, feminist or otherwise: MGTOW is a manifestation of male disapproval of female behaviour, actions, etc. It is saying, “we’ve seen what you have to offer, we’ve watched the way you present your ‘goods’ and… nope, not buying!”
Oh dear Lord, men rejecting females, men giving women the once-over and not snapping up one of these delightful creatures! Heaven forfend! All this female spluttering in rage, hurling of epitaphs, heaping of scorn, is the female equivalent of a spoilt obnoxious brat throwing the mother of all tantrums at not being picked to play the princess in the school play, because… well because I am a princess!
The notion that men choose to reject women – it is simply not to be borne!
There is yet another underlying subtle message that women who have an issue with the whole MGTOW phenomenon tend to raise – men left to their own devices will turn into, if they haven’t already, uncouth violent barbarians without the “civilising” influence and monitoring of women. Wonder how that stacks up in the face of numerous YouTube videos of females (usually drunk) causing mayhem in city centres on weekends. Here in Ireland, in Dublin, we get a lot of “hen parties” around the Temple Bar area, and the behaviour of these females is jaw-droppingly loud, violent, abusive and not to put too fine a point on it, disgusting – urinating and vomiting in the street being a big problem. Hmmm, I simply cannot fathom why men would be “turned off” by that!
Really! Boys, lads – what ails ye at all? Don’t ye know that there are wimmin out there ready and willing to rip your heart out, itching to use, abuse and reject you? Literally foaming at the mouth to squeeze every last penny out of you, give birth to your children then taunt you for 18 years by holding those children hostage, to ransom?
Lads, MGTOW is just mean, it’s not playing the game – sorry – what did you say? The game is rigged? Nooooooooooooo! Really? Ah, well then, off ya go, have fun, and for goodness sakes lads – mind yerselves – them wimmin are very very sneaky.
Note: this article is also available in Spanish.

About Anja Eriud

Until about five years Anja was quite happy to ignore feminism and feminists, She went back to college to study law and there it was, everywhere, toxic and corrupting. She was aware that women were becoming obnoxious and men were getting shafted, especially in Family Courts, but until I confronted in real life she didn't know how bd it was. Now she is one pissed off Irish chick. "FTSU is the plan right? Sign me up!"
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        • Steven D. Timm 7 days ago
          Yes, indeed this is a good article!!
          I went MGTOW back in 1986, so I am on the older spectrum of MGTOW but I am glad I did! I have never had the patience for women's shit tests, emotional as well as mental abuse and constant neediness that women have. I have also never understood the male's incessant need for that female validation.
          I hung out with a female who, I thought was a friend and a person who accepted me for who I am back in the summer of 2012, but our friendship turned into her following me around telling me what I was doing that was bothering her. I told her exactly who I was and that I was not about to change because she disapproved of my behavior. If man or woman can't accept me for me, they can hit the road. That simple.
          Going MGTOW and staying single and childfree has been one of the best decisions I have ever made for myself. I can hunt, fish, shoot guns and smoke my cigars and blend my tobacco without some nagamonster telling me to stop doing those things. I can play Fallout IV all day if I so choose, work on my NFL franchise or stop in at my local Game Stop to see what is on sale and what is going on. All without interference from a woman!
          MGTOW all the way, baby!!!
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            • Walter Lawrence 11 days ago
              After an atrocious divorce from a cheating shrew, I made the decision to keep women at arms; length. That was 12 years ago and, I must day, my life has been much happier, more serene, more profitable and more enjoyable since I made that decision. Once you decide to forgo sex, it is amazing how quickly you realize that women are just not required in order to have a good life.
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                • Younis Mourabi 12 days ago
                  Marriage is a legal construct with an increasing number of legal disadvantages thru time. If you are a man who wants a child, buy an egg and pay a surrogate. Then nobody can ever take your child away from you. It's expensive, but much cheaper than a divorce. Also, a lot of women get fat and grow moustaches as they age. Dont marry. Buy the milk, not the cow.
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                    • E. Manuel Goldstein 18 days ago
                      Been married twice, got two great kids from the first one, then she turned out to be bi-polar. Lost the kids for a lot of years, but when they finished high school, it was dad can we live with you for post-secondary?. Any real man would say yes, and I did, second wife says no. Double standard, her drug using high school drop out kids were welcomed in my house by her, but my nerd kids weren't. Divorce #2. Other than the fact that I have two great kids, I would advise the young men of today to go MGTOW, put a baggie on it and have your fun, but don't go into the relationship zone. As Sheldon's mailman on the Big Bang Theory so aptly stated "Bitches be crazy"
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                        • WhoKnows3000 > E. Manuel Goldstein 4 days ago
                          Has your "great kids" grown to an age where they acknowledge that your ex-wife is an evil piece of shit? I hope so, because I tend to have higher standards when determining whether someone is "great".
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                            • Grumpy Old Man Mod > E. Manuel Goldstein 18 days ago
                              That was my experience with my step mother of over 4 1/2 decades. She's a bad apple who tended to her own roost at the expense of her husbands kids. Her children saw that and to this day are great buddies of mine, very protective of me. I was also fortunate that my wife of 28 years treated my daughter from my previous marriage as her own. I think things come around if one keeps perspective, keeps their cool, and does not get angry.
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                              • NeverHad AGF 2 months ago
                                "women, sometimes feminists, sometimes not, seem to have this visceral negative reaction to MGTOW, why some females take it upon themselves to pour scorn and vitriol on the heads of these men."
                                If a man wants a relationship he gets guilted by feminazi and falsely called "entitled", if a man doesn't want a relationship he is still bad. How do you win?
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                                  • TNTX > NeverHad AGF a month ago
                                    You win by going your own way
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                                      • NeverHad AGF > TNTX 23 days ago
                                        But I don't want to be alone for the rest of my otherwise pointless life. Since I was young I've been deeply attracted to females and wanted to get married. Being attracted to women isn't just part of being a guy for me, it's deeply rooted in my personality, deeper than my hobbies, musical taste, taste in food. etc. It's not fair. In fact if I was born a girl with the same personality I would be a lesbian because I could never imagine being attracted to men and would still be attracted to girls.
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                                          • TNTX > NeverHad AGF 23 days ago
                                            You don't have to be alone for the rest of your life. There's "friends with benefits" there's dating, but there are "BOUNDARIES" You set the boundaries and if the female breaks those boundaries, then there are sever consequences. You have to remember, most marriages fail and it's the men who get taken to the cleaners. I don't know how old you are, but older women today have jobs, their kids are in high school, college or they don't have kids and they yet they still want a man to pay for everything and be their entertainer. I've been around the block. I've had plenty of affairs with married women. The husband has provided for them for 15+ years, but they want to spice it up and have fun on the side. Married women make great "Friends with benefits" They last for a short time, sometimes as long as few years, but these same women, have divorced their husbands with the next guy that can provide them a better life style of living. I've seen this time and time again. Go and have fun, sow your wild oats until your 90! But, don't be a chump about it. Stick to the MGTOW code as much as you can.
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                                              • Suzy McCarley Mod > TNTX 23 days ago
                                                I don't think "the MGTOW code" includes fucking over the husbands of skanks. You might have meant to say "the "PigTOW code." There has never been a "MGTOW code" that advocates for shitting on other men. Indeed any man who actually goes his own way, doesn't subscribe to arbitrary "codes" dictated to him by others.
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                                            • Ernesto Martinez 3 months ago
                                              It is what it is. I remember sitting in the back of high school classes in absolute bore. If I sat up front, I would have to call on answers that suited the female imperative . Was I wrong, no, but I was chastised for it. I recall a difficult exam we took for chemistry. Certain women cried and left the room. They were then given extra time to prep for a makeup. God forbid the man did that. I will say it once more. God forbid the man that did that.
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                                                • Cotto Djalloh 4 months ago
                                                  MGTOW is not about hating women! mgtow is a new phenomenon bringing the thoughts of men (and men are the greatest thinkers!) together on the internet to serve us men.
                                                  Why is it that women can be women just by being born a woman and men on the other hand are shamed and forced into performing tasks and achieving goals just to earn the right to call themselves men?
                                                  On sitcoms on tv for decades we men have been playing and portrayed as the idiot and the women are the higher beings with higher EQ's and IQ's.
                                                  We men build this world! No house was ever build by a woman, every idea and every machine and 99,99% of all the products come from the male mind!
                                                  We men are no spiders in servive of the widow spider!
                                                  our lives are short so we need to enjoy our life...free of enslavement and free of force or shame!
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                                                    • Aveles 4 months ago
                                                      I went my own way 14 years ago. I've watched other men around me get ground into the dirt by women. Not me. I didn't need to get crapped on by a woman to know there is nothing good about them as far as giving one the power to destroy you goes... I will never waste my time on one again. I get high, play video games, and go for a ride in my Corvette when I'm bored because it's more fun than hanging out with a bubble headed bimbo.
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                                                      • Bobby Marcum 5 months ago
                                                        It's awesome to find out you've been a prominent member of a social movement your entire adult life by looking up an acronym you've never bothered to look up
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                                                            Guest 5 months ago
                                                            Childish men going their own way , <snip> I also corrected your spelling. GOM
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                                                            • Frank Delta 5 months ago
                                                              Every new MGTOW is one less happy feminist
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                                                              • Rob White 6 months ago
                                                                One of the best articles I've ever read.
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                                                                  • Harry Mann 6 months ago
                                                                    One thing I noticed the other day, after returning to the States from a three month trip in Eastern, and Southern Europe, was that I was getting a whole lot of dirty looks from pudgy looking women, as well as from guys who are clearly in piss poor shape! You really have to brush it off and look at the underlying reality of their bull shit! Most of these men and women look like crap, and underneath it all, they realize it, but they can pretend otherwise, until they see someone who eats well and conservatively, and who keeps lean and muscular. Most of these women clearly kid themselves that they are a hot piece of ass, given that they are only 20 lbs to 30 lbs OVERWEIGHT. Because, they compare themselves with other women who are obese, because that is what makes them feel good about themselves. But when they are confronted by the appearance of someone who is lean and fit, then they have to come back down to reality, and they do not like it! I compare myself with people who are in better shape, and it inspires me to work harder. I do not compare myself to people who are in worse shape, in order to feel smug, self confident, and get a cheap, dirty, ego boost! WhenII noticed trim and pretty women, they looked like they wanted to high five me, and their faces lit up. Big difference. It reminds me of a woman I once dated; if she saw me notice a more attractive woman than herself, she would become angry, and try to berate me for "leering!" at her; that was in order to try to shame me, because she did not feel good, knowing that I found the other woman interesting and attractive. But, this same date, would then tell me on another occasion to look at some woman or other, who she would describe as looking sexy and pretty, and of course the woman she was pointing out would like a hell of a lot worse than she did, so that it was clear she would have preferred that I found lesser attractive women attractive, which would have been a huge boost to her ego, by comparison with the other woman! These women need to get real!
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                                                                      • Mike 6 months ago
                                                                        A woman who treats men fairly and as an equal and not as a disposable tool has nothing to worry about. I think it is mainly a stand against women who string men along or make them spend tons of money and essentially waste their time and at the end of the night they never get more than a peck on the cheek, never return emails or phone calls etc etc. It's about the endless games that women play. Do men play games too? Of course but that's not what this is about. Today's modern women wants equality except when she benefits from it. MGTOW is a stand against those hypocrisies.
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                                                                          • Suzy McCarley Mod > Mike 6 months ago
                                                                            It's not also a stand against legal and social systems that reinforces male disposability, and that teach and encourage women to devalue men and boys?
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                                                                              • Harry Mann > Suzy McCarley 6 months ago
                                                                                That is what does go on. My parents wanted me to drop out of school without even so much as a high school education, so that I could work for my father, and bring in more income for the household! Meanwhile, they paid for the majority of my sister´s university studies! When I asked my mother to explain to me why my father wanted me out of school, she claimed that it was because he did not value education... But he damn well put my sister through a top ranked university, and paid all of her living expenses as well. My mother did just about the same for another sister, and yet, they all have gone about with an attitude of women being oppressed by men, and acting like they have got an unspoken right to get even! It is a deranged sense of self entitlement! And I have seen it elsewhere!
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                                                                                  • Suzy McCarley Mod > Harry Mann 6 months ago
                                                                                    I can only imagine their stark terror at the thought that you might object to being used as a resource in their goals of giving their daughters the Good Life. You may well have been the most valuable asset that they thought they owned (and could use as they saw fit.) If you said "no" to them, they may well have felt robbed.
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                                                                                    • Mike > Suzy McCarley 6 months ago
                                                                                      Yes it is but I'm surprised to see a woman be objective about it to be honest. We have been taught to see how women don't have equal rights and still don't receive the same pay for the same work as men but if men point out how they are sometimes treated unfairly those women will say these guys are whining or when it comes to the money thing "cheap."
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                                                                                  • Neysa Clark 7 months ago
                                                                                    I think that everybody should stop pitting themselves against each other like a bunch of dwindling idiots. Feminists should not be talking about men in a disrespectful way either. I am a female and I don't support feminism, or MGTOW. A man can go their own way if they want without having to do a movement, without having to say "Well you females are a bunch of idiots and I don't need you, goodbye c:" Just do so, just live life on your own, peacefully. Go about your own way without having to spread bad news about everybody and anybody. Females don't have to spread dumb crap about males either, all you need to do is just go about your own business. You don't want a family? OK. Don't have one. Stop saying that men are "pigs" and women are "Spoiled brats". To be honest most are. I feel as certain women and certain men caused everybody to pit against each other. You don't wanna be with a woman? You don't wanna be with a man? Ok, then go live on a beach with your own house living your own life. Don't discriminate each other. And note that not everybody is a pig and a brat. Stop reading retarded articles like this and divorce the idiot you're with now. Don't like marriage? Live by yourself. There's no reason to educate yourself on this bullshit. Just go your separate way anyway. You don't gotta marry a man, feminists, and you don't gotta marry a woman, MGTOW supporters. Not everybody is a clubbing whore throwing up in the middle of a street. Stop finding hoes in the ally way, stop finding men at a bar, stop going on dating websites. Go with somebody that thinks the same as you and that has the same amount of fun as you. Jesus, get over yourselves. Its up to YOU to go your own way without reading a dumbass article. Don't let this thing be the judge of your life, do what you wanna do and learn how to live your own path by yourself.
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                                                                                      • Bobby Marcum > Neysa Clark 4 months ago
                                                                                        I still agree with Neysa, and I see that using certain words which have been given a second and completely arbitrary meaning by a politically aggressive minority group will get you banned, so I won't use the perfectly good word anymore despite hearing it often in the same context from members of the aforementioned group. I don't support acronyms posing as individuals because they aren't. If a man or woman makes a decision based on a false perception of reality, that's too bad for them. But is there any reason for increased enmity which comes as a result of homogenizing large numbers of individuals' unique reservations about the opposite sex? We can screw up one person at a time, and banding together as an army really cheapens each member's actual problem, because no one really takes the opinion of a movement seriously. They can't, because movements do not HAVE opinions. They have press releases and mission statements; they have manifestos. If I were to resolve my differences with an organized group of militant feminists in the political area, I haven't resolved anything with one single woman, which is all that counts.
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                                                                                          • Bobby Marcum > Neysa Clark 5 months ago
                                                                                            Heck yah...that's what I've been thinking for a long time....I saw the acronyms floating around, and I more or less figured out there was some kind of "movement" going on, which is really gay, in the same sense homosexual activists are. If it is really so awesome, what you're promoting, why militarize and cram something civilization has run from since history has been recorded? As well, do we need to organize enmity anywhere?
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                                                                                            • Suzy McCarley Mod > Neysa Clark 7 months ago
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                                                                                              You sure have a lot to say on a subject about which you clearly know nothing. Take your tantrum elsewhere.
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