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Why is everybody here complaining about the current society? MGTOW way of life... (self.MGTOW)

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Men used to be the one working 6 days and 70 hours a week to support their family. Men used to be the one being draft to loose their life protecting their family. Men used to be the last exiting when a building was on fire, or the boat was sinking, etc...

The status of men was not pleasant until a few decade ago...

Honestly, I'm so much more comfortable now living by my own, working barely 35 hours a week making just enough money to sustain myself and my hobbies in an office and non-stressful job, without being worried about nor working my ass off for an ungrateful family.

I am a 30-something years old software developer, I have an engineering degree but have refused every proposition of advancement in my work so far: I'm not interested in managing a team and being stressed for nothing else than more money.

I'm not complaining, why should I? My life is great! I got to do what I want on my free time, I manage my money exactly as I want and I have more than enough for myself even being a "low wage" earner (despite my degree, I choose to stay at the bottom of the ladder, to keep an easy going job).

But I know that when all men will be like me, the society wouldn't be able to continue and our economy would certainly come to an halt. I don't contribute much to it, I earn little, I pay little in taxes overall. I'm not interested in buying non useful stuff (I have a 20 years old car that works fine and that I take care of myself, I buy clothes only when I need new ones not by trend, I have a 8 years old phone that do perfectly the job, my computer at home is 12 years old and still run Windows XP but I can do everything I need on it, etc.) and I'd rather rent a small apartment (easy to maintain, little housekeeping) than being in debt for 25 years by buying a house... I am debt free and will stay like that, not contributing to the economic.

I have opt-out, and honestly not having a family of my own (no girlfriend, no wife, no kids) is such a relieve as I absolutely do not care how the future will be. There could be a nuclear war that kill every humans on that planet in a few decade I wouldn't care at all: I have no descendants.

My life is probably way more happier than it would have been if I had lived a few decade ago. Why is everybody here always complaining about the current society, even though happiness is more accessible now than ever?

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[–]trumps_amygdala 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because venting is okay, self-reflection later on is even better.

Because the overwhelming masses are all sitting on the falling bar, and our internal desire is to raise the bar. Atlas is not even half as strong as needed to force the bar up.

What a dilemma, the effects of rapid tech growth and instant communication has consumed most and left people without self-reflection, only external reflection or reflection from behind the prison bars of their own ego.

Edit: Your lifestyle does not mean you are sitting on the bar being dead weight. What I mean is being unmoving in ideology, stuck in their (liberal) narrative. Crab mentality. Going with trends/"the stream" But you can certainly make more impact as you are idling, and that's okay.

[–]Rhodesius 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have a good point. I think people sometimes just like to complain. Plus life can always be better, and some people choose to focus on that rather than how their life is already enjoyable. People will always complain as long as things are not perfect.

[–]calories_for_closers 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do people complain about the direction of society? Could be due to vexing morals and value systems. Some others for various reasons like venting and coping. But it is a genuine concern to worry about the next generation. If we are going to be living for another 20, 40, 60 or 80 years then it is useful to watch trends.

Keep in mind, some men here have children and are likely concerned about the world they will grow up in. For those of us without kids, it's much easier to not have a stake in society. Either way, nobody is going to be escaping the changes coming next decade or after that. There is a lot to learn in those threads commenting on society, even if they seem like circle jerks at times. Some want to prepare, others to glory in society burning all around us and it is fascinating itself.

Me personally, I like to watch trends so I can potentially extrapolate consequences down the road and get an idea of what's going to change and how fast.

[–]Aphexwulf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men used to be the one working 6 days and 70 hours a week to support their family. Men used to be the one being draft to loose their life protecting their family. Men used to be the last exiting when a building was on fire, or the boat was sinking, etc...

What do you mean "used to" men still are!