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Controversial opinion Zlatan (Read it first please) (self.reddevils)

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Here me out before down voting, he's been a massive character for us. Exactly what we need, someone who doesn't lose belief, always is confident in himself and won't hide, certainly the type of person you need as a striker, when things are not going for you in front of goal.

However, even though he has 20+ goals, his finishing has been ordinary at best. He's missed huge chances, particularly vs Stoke early in home match, watford away when goalless, Burnley in last few mins from a Pogba deep cross, City at Home after scoring his 1st goal etc.

In PL, alone according to the Premier League website, he's missed 13 big chances, well out ahead of anyone else in the league (https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/big_chance_missed)

His conversion rate is 15% in PL, compared to: Costa 21% Sanchez 19% Lukaku 25% (surprisingly)

I know the argument is, we should expect more goals from other areas, Yes, i agree more players particularly Mata/Mkhi/Martial should be scoring 12+ goals at least.

If we want to fight for title, his finishing, along with rest of forwards needs to improve vastly, or we need to try another player, whether that's Martial, up front to see if he can help when Zlatan's having an off day.

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[–]scholesvolley 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Change the filter to 2012-13 season and see who missed the most big chances. Yes Robin Van Persie with 23 big chances missed.

[–]popcornelephantMartial 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dunno why you find the fact Lukaku is clinical surprising. He's class.

Maybe people see that he plays for Everton and think he'll be average but he really isn't, and they couldn't get a player of his quality to replace him no matter how much they get for him when he inevitably leaves.

[–]sid4913Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

True. If at all I want a striker at our club, it's him. Lukaku beats Harry Kane for me in all avenues.

[–]popcornelephantMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm I think Lukaku is a weird one. Sometimes he can look uninterested and then his first touch and passing can be way off. But when they're both performing at their peak I'd probably have him just over Kane yeah.

Both quality though.

[–]noobprophet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is easier to play when teams don't park the bus against you yet I am not saying he is average.

[–]ireallyamsomethingRooney 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's unpopular alright, but I agree with you. What has impressed me about Zlatan has been his overall contribution to build up play, holding the ball, passing, etc...but I haven't really thought of him as a great or even good finisher this season. Of course, his stats may say otherwise, but I don't really think he has been very good in goalscoring purely.

I think a lot of the credit should be to Mourinho for making the team play in a way that we create so many clear cut chances (may be remembering wrong, but even in Ferguson's later years we didn't seem to create so much). Zlatan has missed a lot of those clear crucial chances which I'm afraid may cost us top 4 this season (or even a title challenge).

[–]RFerrer-Mkhitaryan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just a fundamental misunderstanding of shooting statistics.

It makes sense that the players who take the most shots will miss the most chances, and it is also true that while missing clear cut chances, Zlatan has scored a good number of half or nothing chances.

His finishing has been slightly suspect given his stature, but not as bad as people make out when all things are considered.

[–]noobprophet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree everything apart from the last paragraph. I do not think Martial is having a nice season either when it comes to scoring. Zlatan's conversion rate is low but he is the best player to play as striker in squad.

[–]i-Poker 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow that Vardy guy on 5 missed chances looks absolutely class. Last season he was shit though, with more missed chances than anyone. But now... he must be on 30 goals or something, no? Amazing improvement.

[–]OPisOkayNemanja "Serbian Terminator" Vidic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Think you're forgetting how good zlatans movement is and how he positions himself and creates chances for himself.

He's missed the most "big chances" but how many other strikers would be in position or create the space in order to even miss those chances?

He's a victim of his own talents when it comes to the missed big chances category.

[–]Iksctrsrv 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More players need to start scoring and the fact that you suggest Zlatan to be benched when he's on a poor run is laughable to be honest, you don't do that when someone have scored as many goals as Zlatan have. He even have 4 assists (1 behind Rooney who has the most assists) in the league so even when he don't score he's contributing.

Manchester United: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54&cl=12

Tottenham Hotspur: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54&cl=21

Manchester City: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54&cl=11

Arsenal: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54&cl=1

Liverpool: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54&cl=10