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We should ditch the FA Cup (self.reddevils)

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Hear me out, going forward we have the toughest run of fixtures of all the top 6 sides in the Prem. We have City away, Spurs away, Arsenal away, Southampton away and Chelsea at home still to come. I hope for the best and the optimist in me says we are looking good as a team and should be able to beat all of them but in reality we will drop points in those games.

Going into the last third fatigue will start kicking into the squad it's inevitable and our squad is not the biggest, especially with Memphis and Schneiderlin leaving. One or two injuries to key players which we have been largely lucky with so far this season can derail our whole campaign and put the CL spot which should be our top priority into jeopardy.

Fighting on all 3 fronts with strong teams namely in the PL, EL and the FA cup is very risky. Jose should prioritize the league and EL to secure CL and play youngsters and backups, as many as he can in the FA Cup. I personally wouldn't be very disappointed if we got knocked out by Blackburn in the next round considering the fixture is right between the 2 legs against St. Etienne.

Thoughts?

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[–]MoosjeMartial 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

He's been playing youngsters though. There's no point "ditching" a competition, especially one as prestigious as the FA cup when were the defending winners. One step at a time, play Rashford, TFM, Darmian, etc. against Blackburn and hopefully destroy St. Etienne in the first leg so we're not as pushed in the second.

We're only in one more competition than City, for example, and that's the league cup final (one more game). The club owe the supporters that pay to travel and watch the club to try in all competitions, not simply ditch one.

[–]Eight_Two[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

True but you have to consider that nobody expects City to win the CL not even them. If they think a tie is lost they can give up on it and start focusing on the league, we on the other hand do not have that luxury, we have to win the EL at any cost because it's doable and it's our way into the CL. City also have an easier fixture list than us in the Prem.

I get what you're saying about the prestige of the FA Cup and doing it for the fans but I simply do not think it's possible to achieve our targets in the Prem and EL and win the FA Cup at the same time.

[–]SurilliarManchester United 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Are you sure you support Manchester United?

Not only are we the only club in England to have won the treble of Prem, CL, FA Cup, there are many seasons we have gone all out in all competitions under SAF.

If memory serves me right, in 2008/09, we won the League Cup, FIFA world club cup, Premiership and were runners up in CL and went out on pens in the semi's of the FA Cup.

That's the Manchester United I remember and love. Never do I want us to become a club like Arsenal where top 4 is the aim.

The aim is to win everything we can.

[–]krelmAndy Cole 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Jose knows best. And you don't get to become one of the most successful managers in modern football by ditching one competition so you could have it easier in other.

[–]damian_konin -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Isn't that exactly what Fergie did with FA Cup in 2000/01?

[–]reginaldukLingard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. We were forced to go and play a competition because the FA were sucking up to FIFA. Then we got all the blame. Fat lot of good it did.

[–]keving691Mkhitaryan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't think we should ditch it but I also don't want us playing our A team. I would like to see youth mixed in with players like Basti and young. If we get deep In the comp then I think we should go for it.

[–]SZamanC#21 Status - Loading... 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

agreed. my team to face Blackburn:

Romero Darmian Jones Smalling Shaw Schweini Fellaini Lingard Rooney Martial Rashford

Funnily enough that our only real starter in that squad is Martial and its still a decent line up.

[–]targeryianJones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it really matters atm because the league wouldn't be at risk (no league games). It's the later games that will be a problem where we should rest players like Pogba, Herrera, Ibra etc..

[–]keving691Mkhitaryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah i like the team, Shaw needs comfidence and game time. the more i see Rashford as a proper #9 the better. i would like them to alternate Zlatan and Rashford more.

[–]matt768Ibrahimovic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What do you mean by ditching? Playing Rooney, Limgard, Shaw, Rashford, Young, etc?

[–]Eight_Two[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ye, TFM and Axel too and not use any starters.

[–]matt768Ibrahimovic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Then of course, we will do it. Just dont call playing mentioned above + schweinsteiger, tfm and co. against other teams ditching

[–]Eight_Two[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean it is ditching if we rest all our strongest 11 innit?

[–]matt768Ibrahimovic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. Ditching would be doin it against top 6 opposition in the cup. This is just being reasonable imho

[–]omgwhatsmyusername 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. We should be going strong on all fronts. Ditching a competition shows a sign of weakness imo. I expect whatever team is played to go in with the mentality to win that game and eventually win the competition. It's the United way and I don't ever want to see that mentality stop.

I know what your trying to say, but purposely ditching a competition is short sighted in that you're giving the squad the option to take a day off. As a manager you don't want that type of mentality in the team. You would want the players to give 100% effort every game, not just for the fans, but for the players themselves and most importantly the young players like rashford and TFM. If you show the young players it's ok to take a day off, that type of mentality will bleed throughout the squad. You don't want that. Plus, I believe our squad depth is one of our strengths compared to the others battling in the top 6.

Also, try telling a competitor like zlatan or even mourinho to ditch the fa cup. They'll likely laugh at your face.

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'll rotate a good bit like he has in all the games against Championship sides, i just want us to win 2 or 3 nil at home in Europa,will make everything easier.

[–]Ole_Gunner_ScholesRooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah - screw this thought. We need to try and win every cup we can.