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[–]gerryn 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is definitely something in this. Heavily connected to the suppression of knowledge, which we can so easily see in Egyptology.

[–]MR-OZ[S] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Establishment scholars are completely ignoring these parallels, not out of spite or because they are purposely trying to cover something up; but because they are being controlled to do so in a way so subtle that even they themselves aren’t unaware of it.

How?

These scholars—mainstream historians and archaeologists—are fundamentally honest and hard-working people who perform the extraordinarily laborious task of unearthing artifacts from our ancient past. When they say “there’s no mystery in the past” and “hyperdiffusionism is an outdated model of history” it seems clear that they themselves genuinely believe it; they’re not trying to deceive the public in any way.

The problem is that they are locked into a particular paradigm that sees our society as the apex and pinnacle of the human story. They view history as a straightforward evolutionary process that went from primitive cavemen through a gradual development into agriculture and then down into the Greeks, Romans, the Middle Ages, and finally the Enlightenment and beginning of Science, all ending with our highly technological civilization of today, which in their minds is the “supreme” one.

They are 100% locked into this “evolutionary” idea of how history works, and so it’s very difficult for them to accept that deep in the remote past there existed a civilization or Golden Age that was even higher than we are, and that was able to do things that we cannot. This is the lens through which they view reality, and so they dismiss any anomalous evidence or find plausible explanations for any evidence that does not jive with this reality.

Moreover, being a “scholar” or an “academic” is a job, a profession, which is part of a larger structure. If you want to get a job as a “scholar” or “academic” you absolutely need to buy into its mindset; buy into the paradigm. If you don’t buy in then you simply won’t get hired, and you won’t climb the ladder and move up. Thinkers and researchers who might have wilder or different or more extra ordinary ideas of the past are thus weeded out so that the ones who are left are those who have bought into the existing paradigm.

Thus, no scholar dares challenge the “established” model against hyperdiffusionism, that is, if he or she wishes to get published or win research grants or move along in the profession. This is the simple way in which research into the human past is being controlled by forces we can’t see and most of us don’t understand.

[–]gerryn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

(edit) God damn what a spaghettisauce I just wrote. My point was - you are absolutely right. And I think it has monetary implications as well - most of the top researchers publish books which university students have to buy, because they are the standard. If those 'standards' are challenged, they may lose income. Simple as that, human greed.

[–]MilkyFiesta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

University professors are not Robert Langdon. It's really difficult to earn money by selling books in academia, and that's especially true if you're selling textbooks for something as dry and niche as archeology. The market is tiny and authors don't get very lucrative deals. I think that there would be much more money in a good book about something wild that could capture the broad public rather than just students and academics.

[–]CaptainApollyon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you are missing the point. If your subject becomes obsolete then you are out of a job. Most of the time a persons ego is wrapped up in their job so they will defend it at all cost. It's not about book sales. A lot of alternative history has the potential to disrupt geo politics. The stakes are huge.

[–]supbrother [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank god somebody knows what they're talking about. I take it you actually attended college as opposed to the typical neckbearded armchair detectives that occupy this sub.

[–]powerroots99 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Good point. However, established ideas need to be shaken up for there to be discourse. I wouldn't be so sure that scientists are unaware of the total push back to anything that won't fit their narrative. Look into Graham Hancock's book on ancient civilizations. His extra ordinary claim is backed with extra ordinary evidence.

[–]StonedPigeon 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the best conspiracy of them all in my eyes: our origins. The others are usually just about crimes and other horrible things. They capture us through their ability to enrage us and demand justice.

But here we are seeking to understand the beauty displayed within these cultures, and to learn more about ourselves. It would be the most inhumane thing to deny us this right.

I've read somewhere that the origin ancient culture separated around the globe and constructed these huge pyramids to harness/boost/communicate with etc.. the life force or energy of our planet, which is supposedly a conscious, living being. This is mixed in with Atlantis and other crazy stuff, but perhaps there are some half truths there.

Had these cultures shared the same land mass before and shared customs/traditions/knowledge? Did they, using their knowledge, deliberately set out to far away, specific points on the globe to produce such beauty as to benefit the "soul" of a planet? If we are the children of the planet, our mother Earth would certainly want us to flourish for both our benefit.

There is much to be skeptical on, but at least there's beauty to see when investigating. Hillary Clinton / Podesta / Trump et al are just ugly.

[–]istalkezreddit 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

India is the Key.

[–]SuckMySheep 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm curious, why is India the key?

[–]n00854180t- 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The Mahabharata has some odd things in it - specifically what sound like from descriptions like high technology.

[–]trytheCOLDchai [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Stoned ape theory?

[–]n00854180t- [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Not really sure what you're getting at, unless that's supposed to be some sort of racial slur about Indians 5000 years ago or whatever.

Interesting, had never heard that one.

[–]BloodySpaceDocker [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Stoned ape isn't a slur. It's the idea that human ancestors got high on mushrooms and such and it enlightened them and led to technological advances.

[–]_C0bb_ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Not at all. Stoned ape theory is the idea that the massive growth of the human brain that got us from cave men to the first agricultural civilizations was catalyzed by humans eating magic mushrooms. /u/trytheCOLDchai is suggesting the high technology could have been mushrooms.

[–]n00854180t- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Edited my comment. I'd never heard of this one.

[–]SuckMySheep 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks! Sounds like a good place to start reading, I'll check it out.

[–]Adamkahn28 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Well, maybe it's because a pyramid shape is the best way to stack up a bunch of rocks and have them not fall down for a long time...

[–]MR-OZ[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's more than just pyramids..

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[–]CaptainApollyon [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

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[–]Loud_Volume 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's naive to think they would use so much labor just to make something stand for eons.

They were highly advanced civilization. They weren't wasteful like today's societies and just build stupid shit cause it looks cool.

Pyramids are much more than just structures and it's been proven they use to be used as energy generators

[–]DenSem 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

it's been proven they use to be used as energy generators

link?

[–]BenevolentKarim -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd like to chime in that even if op delivers, there is no proof of this. They are simply big, well-engineered rock piles.

[–]MilkyFiesta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got into a discussion with my aunt once about how she'd read that pyramids had a power that made things inside not decay. It worked for food and stuff as well, and you can still use it today. Studies had shown that as long as things are stored inside a pyramid shape, they will not go bad. Milk for instance would be fine even without refrigeration for up to 14 days.

Of course, my aunt still doesn't keep her milk in a tiny pyramid. But she will insist that it works if you ask her.

[–]mvdl86 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've read this as well. The Russians tested things like this with pyramid shapes. Allegedly things like shaving razors and knives would become sharper if stored inside a pyramid shape.

Apparently the pyramid should have a certain angle to be most effective. There is something to the shape for sure, and not just for engineering purposes.

[–]supbrother [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Let's use logic here. Things stay sharper because they're not exposed to the elements. Things stay fresher because the rock is insulating and keeps the inside cooler.

[–]StonedPigeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just YouTube pyramids and Tesla

[–]godwinguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe the pyramids were a form of cargo cult behaviour. Like how primitive tribes built 'air strips' in hopes of getting a plane to land after seeing Americans do it.

[–]istalkezreddit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No it suggests purpose and intent. Certain rules had to apply to these buildings, because of the people who built them where great architects.

[–]DetroitFratParty -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That is knowledge we are taught. How were they supposed to guess that when they didn't have calculus?

[–]istalkezreddit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They did have it. Indians invented Calculus.

[–]istalkezreddit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The West just took Credit for it. All the great philosophers of greece where educated at the university of kolondur, Kerala, India.

[–]shamahlamahdingdong 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mmmhm. We wuz kings n shit.

[–]AL3XCAL1BUR 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone knows that the humanoid aliens that fled Mars provided the apelike Earthlings with all their advanced technology, which allowed them to evolve into modern day Man. C'mon, get with it.

[–]typoser 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They line up with Orion's Belt. Pyramids are energy conductors and must have something to do with communicating back to the origins of which the extra terrestrial beings came from before landing on this planet. The tree parts of Orion's Belt each hold a home for three different species of aliens that coexist with us to this day.

[–]CaptainApollyon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

trust me this image is just the tip of the ice berg

r/alternativehistory

[–]sub_reddits [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I believe this to be true. I am a somewhat recent convert to Christianity, but I was interested in this theory before my conversion. Now, when I study the Bible (Old Testament) I can see even more how this theory could be true.

God created man, but then took his spirit away from them after the fall in the garden of eden. Man was much more intelligent back then. They all got together to build The Tower of Babel, which God didn't like, so he scattered man.

Man gets scattered all over the world, they all still share a common history, which is why we see so many similarities in ancient societies.

[–]dontkillmehillary 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Human proto-language could have formed after migration from Africa. Perhaps the Proto-Worlders also spread the idea of common architectural design?

[–]supbrother [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Or, you know, architecture is physics-based and physics has many unbreakable rules. But who listens to logic these days...