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[–]swindrunner 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

For the many trans women who are narcissists, I think you have a point. But it seems that many liberal feminists also need approval and recognition from these trans women, like a codependent relationship. They want to be a "good ally" and they will give and give until there's nothing left. And then what happens?

[–]vauqueline"personality," not "gender identity" 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The codependency thing is spot on; I witness it in my extended social circle over and over again. They don't hesitate to sacrifice others if it gains them approval, either.

[–]vauqueline"personality," not "gender identity" 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not much to add; just wanted to say that I agree with a lot of what you have said. Working through and understanding the trauma of years of abuse by narcissists was what prompted me of reach my current position of disdain for gender theory; seeing actual transactivist methods for myself, in person and via media, cemented it because the resemblance was so strong that I would have had to be wilfully blind to ignore it. For my own continued health and sanity, I can never permit myself to become a source of narcissistic supply again, and I will support others in my life in their fights against being similarly exploited.

[–]MartyLD 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a very astute observation. I've heard before about narcissism being an a factor for men who identify as transgender, but you've really put everything into perspective.

Deep abiding shame (that they don't have x), coupled with a profound sense of ownership (that they should have x), plus an overwhelming entitlement that they shouldn't need to work (to earn x), are actually the three pillars which create narcissism.

I find it very interesting that these three things are also foundational parts of masculinity. No wonder so many men have ended up as part of the trans movement, their male socialization basically primes them to become narcissists. Then you add autogynephilia into the mix and it's no wonder these guys are so awful.

what they really need to do instead, is work on their own internalized toxic masculinity which says that only women are allowed to be pretty or wear dresses or whatever the fuck it is that they want to do, AND also work on their own internalized belief that they shouldn't have to challenge patriarchy when it comes to the idea that real men can't do whatever, and lastly, that they actually need to do this work themselves instead of expecting or coercing women to do it for them.

This is so very true, especially the last part. Also in relation to my previous point, from what I understand it is also the basic framework what men would need to follow to overcome their male socialization.

The more I think about what you're saying, the more it makes sense. I think you've had a major insight here.

Thank you so much for sharing this!

[–]endofthelinerXX-Marks-My-Sex=Female 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent. And there is a distinct difference in women who "doll up" with makeup, hairdos and clothes because society expects it of them (sexism) and males who do it for narcissistic and reactionary reasons, part of their acceptance of stereotypes as well as the "we're better women" bullshit.

[–]moonface666 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Somehow you did an accurate description of my mom.

[–]transisfake 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't really agree with this premise. Narcissism isn't the only way MtT's can delude themselves into transition.

For instance, my problem was porn. If you told me to just quit porn, then it would have been fixed. Narcissism played no role in it.

[–]newgcf 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can believe that, that there are other motivations. Some transition, so I hear but not met personally, because they're so feminine it's easier than playing a male role.

[–]endofthelinerXX-Marks-My-Sex=Female 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What, you thought being a female porn star, the epitome of male assumptions about women's sexuality, that is that women should accept any sexual activity that men expect and demand of them, would "enrich" your life and get you more sex? So you accepted the stereotypes of women, I assume?

[–]6bluuue6 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sorry, your problem with what was porn? Do you mean you've thought you were trans?

[–]BigBoudA Whole Woman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes sense. I suspect it will all go pear-shaped quite shortly, because as you say, there's only so much you can give of yourself to a bottomless pit before you realise you're never going to be good enough. I should know, I've been there, and it's part of the reason the stridency of trans activists demands ring alarm bells for me. I'm not familiar with the aetiology of narcissism, but I suspect it's not the only mental health issue that will present as this constant, exhausting need for validation.

[–]susannunes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

First of all, "trans women" don't exist. They are male crossdressers, transvestites, men in dresses.

Half of the problem is telling people to STOP using the phony terms put forward by the trans mob. Men are not women. Period. Men cannot EVER "transition" into a woman, so this nonsense of calling them "transwomen" needs to STOP.

Of course these dudes have mental problems. That is because it IS a mental disorder, a psychosexual disorder and is typically accompanied by other mental disorders. It always has been regarded as such, at least until the degenerate Judith Butler and her queer theory b.s. started polluting college campuses beginning in the 1990s and the internet took hold.