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[–]Chrollo-Lucilfer 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't want to die at the young age. Whatever they say i never ever fight with the society. Call me with any name you want. I respect my life more than anything. I just want to live my life fully. Fighting for something that doesn't or won't change is a time waste process. There is no shame in running away. The one who preach stand up and face those problem are literally saying if you don't like this process stand up and runaway from it. Rather than wasting my time with useless protest, i use my life and time to do whatever i like.

We destroy nothing. We are just dropping out from everything that society want us to be. Inner Peace is all we really want.

[–]soullessgeth 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

yep...i drop out. but dropping out is itself a protest.

we are strangling the welfare state and marriage industry.

[–]Actually_Saradomin -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

All 21,000 of you? Lmfao the delusion is amazing. This is just /r/incels with some self-justification added on top.

[–]soullessgeth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

keep laughing as the us marriage rate continues to plunge

[–]Actually_Saradomin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am. A lot of that is greater % of old people but alright my dude.

[–]soullessgeth 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah...sure. young people are also getting married at a much lower rate than in the past.

keep laughing though

[–]MuscleCarz 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There is no shame in running away.

Running away? How about just walking away, moving in a healthier direction, based on rational choice.

I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it that way, but "running away" sounds like MGTOW are riddled with fear, which is clearly not the case.

[–]CoffeeMAGA 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am afraid of women. One false accusation from someone you've had a 2 min conversation with can get you locked up.

[–]CyLoke 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I’m not running away from my responsibilities. I’m running to them. There’s nothing negative about running away to save my life. ~ Yossarian, Catch 22

[–]Duchat 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is so true. I've never been to AA but there is so much good advice in the serenity prayer,

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

[–]AOF_Semiramis 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If the Tradcucks were smarter,they'd realize that "Hey,women who are experts at manipulation couldnt shame MGTOWs back to the plantation,time to try a different approach!" is a better idea.

Your the ones who want it to go back to the old ways.Make the rewards worth it so those 1 blowjob away from going back to the plantation "mgtows" will fight for your cause.Make them invested enoough to consider it as "our problem" instead of only "your problem".

Even then,there would still be MGTOWs who'll just watch(like me) the entertainment and say "not my problem LUL".

Afterall,this popcorn won't eat it self.

[–]geocitiesuser 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's where their strategy fails, because they aint getting that 1 blowjob. Why would a woman ever give pleasure to a man who is not top 20%? THAT'S SEXIST OPPRESSION!

[–]soullessgeth 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

trad cucks can't do anything because they can't make american women not awful.

go foreign or go home. even in the states...that's might be a bad idea because the shittastic culture and legal system may rub off on her...

[–]knxguy 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

May?

Nah man, foreign women are exactly the same.

AWALT, remember that.

[–]soullessgeth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

not really, america is one of the most culturally and legally cancerous societies on earth for gender relations.

[–]Pfoenix 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Western civilizations didn't change women, they just allowed them to act according to their nature. If you want to live the traditional life, you have to go to countries where female nature is kept in check. Bringing foreign women into western countries isn't a solution. Foreign women know exactly how long they have to be married to get their citizenship + cash and prizes. They also have a network in the helper industry and, as a poor foreign woman who was used as a sex toy by the evil white man, a huge bonus in family court.

[–]soullessgeth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

so feminazism, mindless consumer capitalism backed by criminal scum bankers, and huge legal biases against men equates to "nature." oh yeah cuckservative traditional conservatives that demand chivalrous white knight culture might think that.

that's complete nonsense. if the situation was closer to nature, men would dominate the situation entirely...since we are the dominant gender no questions asked.

who do you think is more dominant in lawless states by the way? clearly men

[–]john_the_other 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually no, those are not nature. BUT, they provide a way for females to indulge in their nature uncontrollably. It's basically letting the brakes of female nature.

[–]fuckPanicThrowaway 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed

[–]JaracRassen77 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd rather be called a "pussy" and a "loser," than get divorce-raped in court 15-20 years from now.

[–]exit-stage-right2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can call me anything they want to. Doesn't affect my peaceful day in the bubble.

[–]lollipoopex 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The good old shame without any arguments...

[–]GoingCamaro 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like Fem-Nazisim and Liberalism in a nutshell.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My ass does hurt from when my ex extracted my wallet.

[–]enlightenedmgtow 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marriage is like Vegas. You go for that huge prize, but it's all chance. Why take your chances on the slots when you could not play all together?

[–]penisassociate 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's actually true for a lot of MGTOWs, but is it some kind of unraveling truth?

If you crashed your car and got severely disabled then would it make sense to say "you're only a pedestrian or wear your seat belts and use airbag because you got butthurt in a car crash"?.

Now the odds of a car crash happening aren't so bad and there's things you can do yourself to mitigate the risks, so it's not really a very good comparison, but serves its purpose in showing how dumb that kind of shaming is.

Once you get married, you can't mitigate any risks. Prenups can be thrown out on many grounds.

A MGTOW future is no different from what we already have. If it's okay and allowable for a family to split up and the kids to live, for example, alternating one week with each parent. Why not just start out there in the first place without the marriage and the divorce?

The only difference is that now the kids actually get to enjoy the father's resources instead of the mother.

I think it's a straw man to say MGTOW is "stay away from women", it's "stay away from [traditional arrangements with] women".

When I got a woman pregnant I knew I was never again going to spend any time or money on relationships with women. I housed and fed her while she was carrying my son, but I didn't make any promises of anything. When she had given birth, I got shared custody. She got her own place and went back to work. I demanded it be that way.

That imho is the MGTOW future. The default arrangement for years to come. Hopefully there won't be any MGTOWs because they're butthurt. The next generation of MGTOWs will be so because they're smart and learned from past experience.

One things to note is that without the marriage and the divorce it's actually not a huge extra expense to legally request and argue for 50% shared custody, which is not always the default. The mother tried to stop me, but she was beaten in court.

[–]Herpnderp145 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bam! That's good. If any blue-pill straying on becoming MGTOW wants to see the truth. It's this. Especially the part on the kids enjoying the father's resources as opposed to the mother squandering them.

[–]Ovendice 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Prenups can be thrown out on many grounds.

Prenups don't even have any power or bearing in today's divorce court at all. A 'prenuptial agreement' is a civil agreement made in a civil court. While today's divorce court is an equity court. Apples & oranges. Of course no one tells you this- they want you to find out the hard way. Standing in front of a judge in divorce court with your little prenup, the judge is just going to laugh at you. The judge has GOD LIKE power over your entire life now and you have NOTHING. No rights, no power. Nothing. A murderer has more rights in criminal court than you do in divorce court.

And of course obviously any and all issues of child support, custody and alimony are all State controlled as well. You have nothing. And what do men do about all of this? Nothing. Just let it happen over the course of the last 30 years. "Legal rights? What are those? But I'm an expert on football," as the average man in the U.S. sticks his finger up his nose. "You guys are just losers and bitter because you can't get laid. Durr."

[–]IslandicFreedom 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But I totally agree with that statement and I don't find it insulting.

The statement "You're only MGTOW because you're butthurt", juvenilely constructed really means "You got to this point from disappointment, being let down, being crushed, losing hope".

What the fuck is there to disagree about? MGTOW 101 stuff really it's always been a reactionary belief. It is the effect component in cause / effect. Cause being the status quo, effect being how we deal with that.

This whole thing wifs of people trying to turn MGTOW into the cause to bring about effect. Ass about face, cart before the horse. It's illogical.

If you have to defend your MGTOW belief you're doing it wrong. MGTOW is a very personal thing, no ones business. Not something you parade about. Fuck that there's no need for that, there's the internet -> People have it. Getting into arguments over it, trying to defend it - unthinkable.

Putting it forth as a superior way of life to people who are ultimately going to disagree with you - ludicrous.

[–]exit-stage-right2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally agree. MGTOW isn't up for debate. There is nothing to argue or defend. If people don't like it, then I guess they have a problem to deal with, it won't be my problem.

[–]jKoperH 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They say that for female (i.e. in case the wife sees it) consumption, and as a sad attempt at convincing themselves that they didnt fuck up royally. They are making sure that they never "force" her to pull the divorce gun that is pointed at their heads.

When it does get pulled, then all of a sudden they are all complaining about how she got everything and left him out to dry, as if we give a fuck.

They seem to forget that the "miserable husband" trope originated with them.

[–]MuscleCarz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and as a sad attempt at convincing themselves that they didnt fuck up royally. They are making sure that they never "force" her to pull the divorce gun that is pointed at their heads.

It's both of these, and in spaids.

To acknowledge and internalize the truth is just too scary and painful, so they rail against reality.

[–]Dank_Meems 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has 4chan always been mgtow or is this new?

[–]geocitiesuser 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would argue it's the feminists that have destroyed everything.

[–]verynormalsimple 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You MGTOWs will destroy everything

No. Society will destroy itself and MGTOW will watch from afar and then rebuild from the ashes.

[–]SUEDE2BLACK 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ha we need to spread this movement.I want to see on the News how the Diamond ring industry has collapsed but the boating, fishing ,sports car and video game industry is thriving.

[–]fleshnbones 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's actually the case right now.

[–]HIGHLORDOFSHITSTAINS 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Butt hurt? Do you know how easy it is to get ass as a mgtow? It's so fuckin easy.

Bitches sing to me now. It reminds of that story of the sailor and he was hearing those women on the shore but then ships would crash on the rocks.

I forget the story and probably got it wrong lol.

[–]lcoyote 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Odyssey, but it's fiction coz his wife waited faithfully for him for 20 years.

[–]sdonaldsonjr 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More like "O' Brother Where Art Thou", which is modeled after The Odyssey, but might be the most Red Pill movie ever. There is even lines in the movie where they perfectly explain women.

I dont want to cause any spoilers. The movie is on Netflix. WATCH IT TONIGHT. If you have seen it before, watch it again, and pay attention to all of the subtleties in the movie. It is phenomenal.

Especially knowing that he is willing to sacrifice himself for his kids, by wanting to remarry his wife, after she went after another man. It is truly brilliant stuff.

Children absolutely 100% need their father in their lives. They need that family unit. When kids are involved, MGTOW is almost out of the question. If you are divorced, your kids will be taught to resent you by their mother. I have seen it in SO many cases. It is absolutely disgusting. I cannot think of a single divorce that I have witnessed, where the mother doesn't trash the father of her children, directly to her children. -- end rant.

Seriously though, watch that movie. It is OUTSTANDING!

[–][deleted] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

maybe, more like the son kept her under lock and key for as long as he could.

[–]RecQuery 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Depends Penelope - Ulysses'/Odysseus' wife - just refused to marry, she would still regularly entertain the suitors string them along and then there was Telemachus to deal with. You also had characters like Circe and a few of the wives and daughters of other heroes who acted pretty much like you'd expect.

I mean obviously fictional but some of the characters captured the nature pretty well.

[–]lcoyote 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always liked the part where Odysseus' dog stayed alive long enough to see him return, now that's realistic.

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[–]Folwart 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My butt hurts so bad dudes.

[–]soullessgeth 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah the traditionalist right is brain dead. alt right or nothing...

[–]Carbo-Raider 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, Butthurt because my ex hurt my butt while ramming it in court.

[–]ryeFL 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Rep Pill" philosophy doesn't help either, despite their snake oil salesmen babbling about "being able to slay pussy"

if a man comes to them with stories of being divorce raped and having to pay child support the retort is "haha beta max here couldn't keep frame. fuck you"

[–]Chev__Chelios 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

EVEN IF you're only MGTOW because you're butthurt, or because you can't find the right woman, you're still on the right track...Trust me, I looked for the right woman (any normal average woman) for over a decade, and I couldn't find her. Looking back, and knowing what I know about women and the society that enables their worst behaviors, I feel fortunate that I failed.

Also, no such thing as unicorns. Not now, not ever.

[–]exit-stage-right2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I too feel fortunate. I'm 43 and coasting to the end with no women around.

[–]PinHunter65 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You cant destroy what has already been destroyed. Women, you made your bed, now lay on it.

[–]Datson_Horrenbrand 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you forgot about being called "misogynist" and "sexist"

[–]Carbo-Raider 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a half-truth. I red-herring to distract from the men who were manly enough for women to marry, and screw them up.

[–]qemist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably true in most cases.

[–]s0ma_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

heres why youre wrong to go your own way

 
why bother reading what silly cunts have to say; tis meaningless

[–]Orlitoq 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You're only MGTOW because you're butthurt."

That is like mocking someone for not wanting to touch a hot stove because they just burned their hand on a hot stove...

[–]leditor999888 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

where is this from?

[–]methylotroph 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How the fuck do we prevent them from going out and getting married (and then divorced and cucked)? Heck I would think they would be thankful that we left the coupling market, more for them right?

[–]Raiden627 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Misery loves company.

[–]TigPlaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Butthurt" is such a dumb expression. It's usually used by people who are trying to say, "I don't like your complaining." Well, too bad. The anti-male system hasn't got me anymore, ha ha ha. They can bitch and call me "butthurt" all they want. Don't care.