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Bountyhunters continue coming to my house looking for prior resident! Very scary and intimidating! (self.legaladvice)

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I recently bought and moved into a new home in Denver. Ive been living here for a couple months now and Ive had bountyhunters come to my home 3! times already! I dont know if theyre all the same people but they come banging on my door at 11:45 with flashlights down my face asking/looking for this Ramirez guy. I keep telling them Im not him and to remove me from the list. Please help. Is there anything I can do? Its super scary and I dont want to get mistakenly shot and arrested.

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[–]Cypher_BlueQuality Contributor 601 ポイント602 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Bounty Hunters are just regular people.

If you've told them to leave and they keep coming back, call the police- they are trespassing.

[–]bastionfour 265 ポイント266 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Agreed. I'm assuming you mean 11:45 PM...this is very late and you're well-justified to call the police. You have no obligation to cooperate in the inquiries of a private citizen.

[–]Cypher_BlueQuality Contributor 248 ポイント249 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It doesn't matter if it's high noon. If he has told them to leave and they continue to return, he can call and report that.

[–]bastionfour 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed.

[–]SchalkeSpringer 109 ポイント110 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It doesn't matter if it's high noon

Goddamn McCree always coming around, causing trouble with his ultimate.

[–]Noglues 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (1子コメント)

OP should advise the bounty hunters to experience tranquility.

[–]Icedog68 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, he should call the police so they can rain justice from above.

[–]bountyhuntertrouble[S] 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I was reading differently online and how they have legal powers and stuff. https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31439

[–]pottersquashQuality Contributor 276 ポイント277 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their powers are limited to dealing with the actual target. If they mess up and go after the wrong one, its all on them. Call cops anytime anyone is banging on your door.

[–]Cypher_BlueQuality Contributor 177 ポイント178 ポイント  (0子コメント)

From your article:

However, in most states the bounty hunter cannot enter the property of anyone other than the fugitive without a warrant or the permission of the owner, even if pursuing a fugitive, without being guilty of trespass.

The authority a bounty hunter has comes from the person agreeing to it when they sign the bail paperwork. You didn't sign anything and they are just guys coming to your house. Call the police if they come back again.

[–]bastionfour 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That article only mentions that they have legal capacity to enter the private property of a person who jumped bail (criminal). That is pretty limited...unless you are renting the house from "Ramirez", they are trespassing.

[–]badmotherfucker1969 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even if OP is renting the house from "Ramirez" Op has rights to the front door and not to be awoken at 11:45. It's called Quiet Enjoyment.

[–]steals_fluffy_dogs 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're fine OP. In this instance, they don't have the legal powers you're worried about and calling the police will work as intended. Definitely call next time you're being harassed. Actually, I recommend calling the non-emergency number and letting them know what's going on anyways.

[–]Ermcb70 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell, if he lives in a suburban/rural area he can just go down to the station and figure out who the bondsman is. Just tell the boss the story and they will stop wasting their time.

[–]WhitechapelPrime 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There powers only come into play when it involves their bounty. They have no power over someone that is not their warrant. Do not let them intimidate you. Call the police and let them deal with them. Source: Tried to become a bail bondsman in my younger days.

[–]mywan 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would get the name of the bonding company. Then I would quote something like: "This is your fourth time here. You are hereby trespassed and any continued harassment will result is trespass charges." Then if you do have to call the police you can unequivocally state that they have been very explicitly trespassed and continue coming back. Bail bonding agents will bend over backwards to stay clear of you once they know they have been explicitly trespassed because it's their livelihood on the line.

[–]SollaSelty 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Call the cops if you feel intimidated, and call each time they show up.

Bounty hunters usually work for a bail bonds company. You could ask for the name of the company they work for, and then contact them to remove your residence from their information. But these types of people can be tenacious, and often don't want to be reasonable. They only care about getting their mark.

[–]ZanctmaoQuality Contributor 260 ポイント261 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Whether the bountyhunters are different people doesn't matter, the bail bondsman is the person who sending them out. If you know the guys name you could look up his case file in the county court and find out which bail bondsman put up the bond for this Ramirez fellow. Then you can simply send him a cease-and-desist letter and if they come again you could sue.

[–]Mattw242 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn son how u so smart

[–]Captain_MoFaux 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is brilliant

[–]--MyRedditUsername--Quality Contributor 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Call the cops

[–]CallingYouOut2 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why would you open your door for a complete stranger?? You aren't obligated to talk to them or answer your door. Call the police next time they show up.

[–]nixielover 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (6子コメント)

After dark I don't open for anyone I don't know.

It's your door, you decide wether you open it or not. If someone keeps banging the door or doesn't leave call the cops

[–]pottersquashQuality Contributor 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shit after 8 pm you better be the cops and either I called you or you have a warrant.

[–]nixielover 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

even with a warrant, if they mean it they can bust the door. there have been too many cases around where I live of robbers impersonating cops

[–]mrchaotica 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

even with a warrant, if they mean it they can bust the door.

IMO they shouldn't do that either, at least not without announcing themselves as police and giving you a chance to call 911 to verify that they are who they say they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting

[–]CallingYouOut2 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell, when I lived in a house...it could be daylight, with the TV on, and walking past a window... I STILL don't answer my door for people I don't know. I just don't want to deal with random strangers, JW, or salespeople.

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    [–]karnerblu 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Also set up a surveillance system with cameras on your driveway and doors so if they do leave before the police arrive you'll have some evidence if need be.

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      [–]hawtp0ckets 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      When I moved into my apartment I had constables coming once a day for a couple of weeks looking for the previous resident. They had a warrant for his arrest.

      After telling one that the dude didn't live there and to please stop coming to my apartment, I finally had to tell the next constable the day after that this is considered harassment and to stop immediately. That seemed to do the trick.

      [–]trampabroad 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      3! times

      So they came six times? Bobba Fett is really down on his luck.

      [–]EpikYummeh 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      /r/unexpectedfactorial

      [–]rafadavidc 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      God dammit. Ctrl-F'd to do exactly this.

      [–]FlatusGiganticus 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Armed thugs playing cops and robbers, poorly, showing up at my door in the middle of the night will not be greeted politely. I have a 12ga with #4 buck whose barrel they will be staring down while we wait for the sheriff to eventually make an appearance. I had a random guy show up on my property after 11pm once. He met the same 12ga.

      Edit: And, yes, my actions are legal in my state. I'm not recommending this if it isn't legal in your state.

      [–]Louis-Crapsteur 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      had some shit-for-brains bounty hunter coming by my parents house a few times looking for the previous owner. he kept asking my dad for information he was not entitled to at all. my dad was pissed when this jackass showed up the second time. my dad asked the guy if he was armed and he said yes, so my dad just called the cops on him since he wouldn't leave. that retard hasn't shown up since.

      [–]FlatusGiganticus 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I assume anyone showing up after dark is armed and up to no good. It's the pragmatic approach, and thankfully it has proven to be wrong every time up to this point.

      During normal waking hours, it's normal for people to be coming around, so you tend to have a different mind set.

      [–]irisisland 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Armed thugs playing cops and robbers, poorly, showing up at my door in the middle of the night will not be greeted politely. I have a 12ga with #4 buck whose barrel they will be staring down while we wait for the sheriff to eventually make an appearance. I had a random guy show up on my property after 11pm once. He met the same 12ga.

      This happened in my state, yes the homeowner's actions were legal but he still ended up dead. Along with his wife.

      [–]Downvotes-All-Memes 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      What horrible advice. Now you've got an armed bounty hunter expecting to find some kind of person worthy of being bounty hunted with a gun in their face. They just let it happen? Sure.

      [–]FlatusGiganticus 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      If you aren't in law enforcement with a valid warrant, don't expect me to be polite when you show up at night banging on my door while armed. To get to my door, you have to ignore a no trespassing sign, ignore a beware of dogs sign, open my locked gate, get past the dogs, and head up a long driveway. At this point you are legally trespassing, and Texas law gives me the right to defend my family and my home. Damn straight I'm meeting you armed. Don't like it? Don't create the situation where I feel threatened. Call and ask to set up a meeting during the daylight hours like a normal human being.

      [–]TimeKillerAccount 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Then you have a dead bounty hunter and he cant come around anymore. Problem pretty well solved.

      [–]mason_mormon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      If they continuously harass you you can file for a PPO.

      [–]rap31264 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Was it Dog?

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        [–]Remy2016 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        and do what with it? Stick in in the guys face when he comes to the door?

        Won't end well....

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          [–]billyjoedupree 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's good to see you keeping busy, Joe.

          [–]RightWingWacko58 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Following this particular advice of a certain ex-vice-president will get one arrested in 50 states, and probably shot in some of them.

          [–]BobSacramanto 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I understood that reference!

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          [–]TheSuperDanks -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Depends where OP lives.

          [–]sirspidermonkey 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Not really. I'm as pro-gun as they come but sticking a shotgun in someones, who more than likely is armed, face is not going to end well.

          Case 1: OP is hesitant to pull the trigger, and the bounty hunter now having a gun in his face will probably shoot.

          Case 2: OP pulls the trigger, now has a dead man on his porch, police asking him questions, and a guilty conscience wondering if there was some other way. It might be legall but that doesn't mean it won't fuck you up.

          [–]YSKthatIDK -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          And even if it is legal, he would most likely face civil charges, costing thousands of dollars and a lot of time.

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