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[–]HobbesTheBraveGuy, Single 20-something 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just feel like once you realize how difficult some of these men's lives can be, your inner shrew is automatically dissipated. There won't be anything to complain about anymore.

Few things make women as attractive as realizations like this one do.

[–]loneliness-incHusband of the decade. 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is very true.

It's irrelevant whether this is truly gender privilege or just plain privilege or if it's privilege at all. All that matters is that OP has a cushy job and her man has to deal with crap all day long. The worst thing OP can do is take him for granted, the best thing she can do is be appreciative.

OP is being appreciative and this will make her 10x sexier in the eyes of her man.

[–]JackGetsIt~30, Single, RP Man 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All I can do is try to respect what he's doing.

Any single women reading that can do this will have men falling all over their feet. Men are starved for respect in 2017. Respect is male currency, attention is female currency.

Great post OP!

[–]Willow-girl50 | Country RPW 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think your privilege comes more from being upper-class than being female. Life isn't such a Wonderland for us working-class women! :-o

The cows don't poop on me any less than they do on my boss, lol.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigLTR[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a specific arts job where you're either lower class or upper class. Either people feel sorry for you or they respect you. It's quite strange, I still get people pitying me when I tell them what I do because of the stigma, but I just keep my mouth shut. I simply got lucky in my job and it happened to be in an arts sponsored country, instead of freelancing like most struggling artists. I do acknowledge I have privilege, though, I can't really complain about much.

[–]Rivkariver 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true, I went from upper middle growing up to family disaster leaving me very working class. However any woman who really wants to can find a man to help her and who cares for her, and in that we are blessed. I see nothing wrong with it either.

[–]teaandtalk27, married 5 years, together 6 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's awesome that you've realised this! When people talk about 'privilege', it's easy to tune them out...but in reality, we all have different types of privilege, and acknowledging them is a really important thing to do in order to be a well-rounded human.

In terms of your relationship, are there any changes you'll make now that you've realised all these privileges?

He won't let me contribute financially

So how else are you going to contribute? Think about the ways in which you can provide value (homemaking, frugality, emotional support, social organisation, etc) and make sure that you're using your place of position and privilege to make his life better.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigLTR[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He tells me I'm the source of light in his life because I contribute a lot already. I cook for him and take care his needs as much as I can and give him TONS of blowjobs and I listen to him when he advises me. In fact, I give him so many blowjobs he actually declines because his dick is tired haha! I can definitely complain less about my own life though...

The main point of the post is even though I try my best to give as much as I can, I will never truly understand the shit in life that he has to deal with that I never will.

[–]Willow-girl50 | Country RPW 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In fact, I give him so many blowjobs he actually declines because his dick is tired haha!

That's funny!

At bedtime we've been watching a series called "The Victorian Farm" on Hulu. On last night's episode, the reenactors were making cider the old-fashioned way. I joked, "I could go for a Little Dickens Cider right now!" My boyfriend got a look of fear in his eyes and said, "How about we just watch the program?" OK, it was late, and in truth I was tired, too. :-)

[–]r3mememember 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A woman who is appreciative of her man gets +2 to her RMV. A 6 instantly becomes an 8 with sincere thank-yous and actions that demonstrate appreciation.

It's so valuable because so many women set the bar so so so low.

[–]the_baumer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have but it didn't occur from a gender perspective, it was more economical. My boyfriend has had way more financial hardships and employment challenges than I have, and it really opened my eyes to how tough it can be out there for people who want to work and learn and yet companies don't give him a chance or refuse to help him in any way. You really are on your own and there is no such thing as loyalty or job security when it comes to employment. His parents also did a poor job teaching him anything about saving money and basic personal finance goals, whereas my dad starting teaching me when I was 10. So I helped him with that too and now for the first time in his life he's not living paycheck to paycheck.

[–]Firstmatewifey25 Married 4yrs 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After any particularly crappy day at work for him, or a particularly good day not-at-work for me, I tell my hubs how thankful I am for his hard work ethic, drive, and commitment to providing for us.

I use that guilt and new found appreciation to make myself better, to make his life easier, and to bring us both more joy.

[–]thisisnotforyou_20s, LTR, 1 year 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm 100% not sure the privilege you're comparing between your and your boyfriend's jobs is a privilege because you're a woman though. It's a privilege because of your job choice and his job choice, not because you are female and male. A man in your job would likely be dealing with similar clientele to you, and a woman in your boyfriend's job is likely to be dealing with a similar clientele to your boyfriend. Obviously that's not to say you should make any less effort to be his soft place to land after a shitty day at work!

Female privilege is when in the same career men have to put up with shit women don't.

[–]JackGetsIt~30, Single, RP Man 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think we can also define privilege as what's available on the job market as a whole. OP has a cushy job that's not really available to a lot of men.

[–]thisisnotforyou_20s, LTR, 1 year 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you think a job in the arts is not available to men based on their sex or merit? I work in the arts myself and whether you're employed here depends on your education and experience, not what sex you are.

It is only female privilege if men are obviously excluded from that job even though they are as qualified or more qualified to do it than a woman.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigLTR[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, the arts is a very broad industry. My field is actually male dominated, but I'm lucky to be getting paid well for the level I'm at.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigLTR[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, it's a male dominated field on a collegiate level. But I'm in an extremely rare situation where I live in a country that sponsors the arts and so I have a cushy job doing what I do (teaching young children not University level). If I had my job in the US, however, I'd be dirt poor, and when I did live in the US I was struggling to make ends meet.

[–]Willow-girl50 | Country RPW 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure it is; they just have to be gay! :-D

(Kidding, of course.)

[–]CoolguyMD1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your bf is a very lucky man. Cherish each other.

[–]Kara_El29 Engaged - Married Summer 2017 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I agree that this has little to do with gender and everything to do with life choices, I have had those little moments of realization that I've found a keeper, someone absolutely perfect for me. He'll pull me close to snuggle me in bed before we get up in the morning, or he'll be in a great mood despite currently working in a job with no future, because it's what he could find in the area. He's always so happy and kind and hardworking and that's such a rare combination.

[–]SilverSpoonRPW 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yesterday I just had a revelation on how much privilege I have as a female.

I think it is wonderful that you appreciate how hard your boyfriend works, and that it is his goal to provide for you and your family. But, it was his decision to pursue a career in the unpredictable world of construction. And, it is also his decision to prohibit you from contributing financially to ease this burden. I believe that there is a vast difference from showing respect and appreciation and being an apologist.

In no way do I believe that being a conservative, RPW woman requires me to apologize for my upbringing and success. I worked hard in school and in my career, and I am currently enjoying the fruits of my labor. My husband did the exact same thing. I see no logic behind the assertion that his 60+ hour work weeks are somehow more important or more difficult due to his gender. We both experience stress, we both push ourselves, and we both make sacrifices. Our life is structured this way, because we decided it was the best for us. Just like your boyfriend decided to structure his life in such a way that once you are married there will only be one income.

[H]e knows if we get married he'll have to provide for me too, because he won't let me contribute financially. He wants to do it all himself. I sense he's a bit resentful of how good I have it as a female, but he'll never tell me this to my face. All I can do is try to respect what he's doing.

Again, this is his own personal decision. If he prohibits you from providing financially, then you have nothing to apologize for. Personally, my husband and I believe that more income diversification and financial security are better than less, so we both work. We don't both need to work, but we do. Hello retirement by age 50 (or earlier) for both of us! I personally would feel slighted if my husband prohibited me from working, and then resented me for not working. That seems a little illogical. Again, you can respect and appreciate all of your boyfriend's hard work without apologizing.

My post might lead people to believe that my husband's hard work goes unappreciated. If you told that to him, he would probably laugh at you. He is told morning, noon, and night how much I love, respect, and appreciate him and the way that he has decided to lead our family. I am in a position to truly sympathize with how stressful and difficult his life can be at times between work, helping manage our home, and keeping up with family and friends. That's why I show him respect by never complaining when it is clear that he is too tired to unload the dishwasher, or put away his laundry, or the lawn has to go one more day without being mowed. It is for the same exact reasons that he doesn't complain when he has to eat from the work cafeteria instead of a home packed lunch once and a while, or if the mail sits on the counter for a couple days, or too many pairs of my shoes start to pile up in the mudroom.

[–]Rivkariver 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After my family fell apart and I left my ex I had nowhere to go and no income, and I had to work at jobs with mean bosses unexpectedly and live hand to mouth, yes I had a new appreciation for how hard many men work. I haven't always lived in a cushy bubble but even so I live with the knowledge that any woman who had feminine wiles can find a man who willingly takes care of her because he finds it fulfilling.

Contrary to many I see nothing immoral about this truth, as long as everyone is honest and happy. But I do feel very grateful for it. That said, I have a lot of things that make me weak (health) and not thrive in a 9-5 job so personally I don't feel guilty for the way things are. I've been nearly homeless before so it's not always magical.

[–]CoolguyMD1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are amazing.

All I can say is for you and your So to cherish each other. Not many relationships have the level of love and empathy you guys have.

[–]CoolguyMD1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • Your bf is a very lucky man. Cherish each other.

[–]NoFaceNoPlace~20, LTR < 1 year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I appreciate my SO so much. He recently had to change jobs because his female manager decided to push him out. She was very awful and catty towards him but there was nothing he could do about it.

I look up to him a lot because he has really good work ethic and it scares me thinking I might have to work as hard as he does but he reminds me I will probably be hired quickly for an easier job with higher pay because of how I look and then will be able to back it up with my character.

[–]deadsandsushiChildfree, Confident Lady in Relationship 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope. Everything I've achieved from my high salary to my tight physique has been the result of my effort and discipline, not my vagina.

[–]CleburnCO 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Frankly, that is impossible if you are interacting with men and women in the general public. There are doors opened for women that are simply not opened for men. There are EEO requirements for a given # of females...quotas and similar throughout the job market. Check out any gov contract. Points for every EEO category. There are huge numbers of educational programs (internships, scholarships, etc.) that are open only to females. To say that, in a world that is heavily weighted towards setting you up for success, you got where you are 100% on asexual merit...not likely. Whether you saw it or not, the skids were getting greased for you.

Its like saying you never tried to flirt your way out of a speeding ticket...of course pretty women try to flirt their way out of a ticket...because it works.

Heck, there are solid peer reviewed studies that show pretty women get higher grades for the same work in college...lighter prison sentences for the same crime...and on and on.

It is just reality. Nothing to be ashamed of...it is human nature.

[–]deadsandsushiChildfree, Confident Lady in Relationship 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess I'll spend the rest of my life sucking cock to make up for my privilege.

NOT.