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[–]Zombocom1911 119 ポイント120 ポイント  (8子コメント)

All the old deals are dead. Men used to work hard in exchange for a stable home life, a housewife and children. Now all that security is completely gone. Women are proud of their autonomy and hypergamy. They just love to rub in your face how you are not good enough and you will never be good enough and they have endless options to replace you with, how men are disposable because they are princesses and you are just a worthless pawn . You have absolutely no guarantee that your entire life will not be ripped out from under you just because she had a mood swing. So you are damn right the incentives have completely changed thanks to women's "liberation". I guess they somehow thought men were too stupid to run a risk/reward cost benefit analysis on modern life. MGTOW = checkmate. Your move, ladies. whoops I forgot you don't have any moves left.

[–]PinHunter65 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (7子コメント)

See, women dont run a cost/reward analysis on....well anything. They are driven by the tides, and moons, and Chads, and feels. They are spur of the moment people, only eager to satisfy their immediate needs without consideration of their actions. Its impossible for them to plan for the male revolt, because they think men run on the same fucked up mindset they do. But, as always, the guys are 10 steps ahead, patiently waiting for the poison to do its work.

[–]raisins3142 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Actually, when evaluating men for beta bucks status, I think they are pretty calculating. Much more so than men are when in a relationship.

That's why women never fall in love hard and are willing to walk whenever a better deal arises.

They view men the way that men view jobs, and everything else.

Men are programmed not to view women this way however. We can actually love them for who they are and not what they do for us. We can sacrifice for them.

But they have made it to where many of us are no longer willing to entertain such a thing because we know in advance that it will almost certainly end badly.

[–]PinHunter65 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Women dont calculate beta bux. Its genetically wired into their DNA. It happens without them even knowing it. They are wired to acquire Chads (offspring), and funds (means to live).

[–]raisins3142 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nah, I've heard them consciously pondering men and options in a cold manner. I agree that it is genetic and somewhat subconscious, but I think it is also genetic for them to use their conscious brains to help the process and to keep any attachment out of the picture.

Two things can be true at the same time, so long as not mutually exclusive by definition.

Just recently, a woman was gushing over her new BF, and a girl noted his small salary and that she should do better for herself. They then discussed in front of me.

[–]shadow1118 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

god i love being a man

[–]mofono 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree, I think women are much more cold and calculating than we give them credit for. It is us men who truly love them but they take our love and use it to harvest our wealth and resources, to suck us dry until our legs spasm, and then once all our life force, wealth, and resources have been sucked dry from us, they throw our lifeless bodies into the gutter and they are onto the next man.

Make no mistake, women are ruthless, calculating machines who seek out profit more efficiently than a corporation does.

It is the goal of MGTOW to reeducate men so that they no longer love.

Love is a strong emotion that I feel. I have a very strong yearning to love a woman, but I ruthlessly suppress these instincts because the suppression of instinct is the mark of a man with self-discipline and control. If a man never suppresses his instincts, he will binge on junk food and get fat. You must not yield to short-term desire because doing so may give you short-term pleasure but at the expense of your future.

[–]raisins3142 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interestingly, if asked any woman would say she loves, and probably claims she loves more than a man ever could!

It's bullshit though.

Men feel deeper emotions across the board because we are less self obsessed, among other things.

[–]GFandango 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They view men the way that men view jobs, and everything else.

Spot on and what I have always said.

[–]PabloEscoba 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Men should only work to sustain themselves,their hobbies & chosen lifestyle. A family life is off the cards. Almost every female has daddy issues,alpha widowed,entitled,narcissistic,infested with feminism,infested with numerous STDs,alcoholic,cant cook and clean. Marriage is deprecated. Women almost obselete.

[–]FritzLn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marriage is deprecated.

i love that

[–]ChocoTrainApocalypse 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (4子コメント)

To be completely honest, if money wasn't so important, I wouldn't be working. Don't get me wrong, I like my job and the friends I've made there, but if given the chance that I didn't need to work, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I'd much rather spend my time doing things I enjoy.

[–]Happy_Salt_Merchant -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

And that's why UBI can never work

[–]thatredditguy1234 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wouldnt his post be a reason to implement UBI?

[–]Jesty_Lemon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

With job insecurity (thanks to automation, outsourcing, etc), unless the gov want to deal with food riots, etc (like Syria), then UBI seems like the only answer.

[–]KingCanuck4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

just because you feed the plebs doesn't mean they won't riot.

[–]Raiden627 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We got fucked hard. I've had to work 70 hours to really get ahead and be sitting on the phone with customers till 12 to be up to work at 5am the next day while none of that overtime was paid because I was salary. They use salary to bend everybody over and skirt the laws.

I've had places say we're going to need you to be on call 3 months after the job began to then drive two states away and be on call till 1am with national tech emergencies at big companies with none of the Oracle and sys admin picking up their phones because they were in bed.

Fuck this shit. I'm going to keep improving, get the big bucks, invest it and then say fuck you. I'm staying part time. A life like this is no life at all.

[–]mofono 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Work enough to live your life. Don't waste your money subsidizing other people's lives. In other words, don't get married.

[–]ustael 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think what everyone is failing to acknowledge is that this is really the beginning of men going on strike. Stepping out of our rolls. Really, being forced. Forced because we WANT to work, and be successful. And the system is setup to take advantage of our hard work, drive, and desire for success. But, this was inevitable and will only get worse unless things change.

[–]mofono 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Nothing changes until someone feels something."

[–]Trek13 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes the system is set up to take advantage of men. But we still have a choice to avoid the traps. Once you figure this out you will see that there is opportunity everywhere. All this women shit and feminism is just background noise. We are so lucky to have been born men. Just think what it would have been like to have been born female... a nightmare. I cant blame them for being so angry and depressed, I would be too if I had been cursed like that.

We live in a great country. Even Trump wont be able to fuck that up!

[–]GFandango 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not gonna happen mate stop dreaming.

The society has built-in pressure valves.

Just as the pressure builds up they release a bit.... and the cycle repeats.

[–]Ximkai 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea, I'll buy this. But I've seen it the other way around too. I know a guy who outright refuses to get a job. His debt is growing by the day, he's about to get evicted, and his plan is to move in with is "on again off again" girlfriend. All because he's rather sit on in ass, smoke weed, and play video games all day.

Don't get me wrong, sitting on ass, smoking and gaming is my favorite fucking pass time. But, you do that AFTER all the bills get paid.

[–]bestat21 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Millennials reading this, just remember one thing. Not a single thing is going to change until you get the creation of money out of private bankers hands. Right now money is being created out of thin air by a group of private families, of which Rothschilds are only one. They control everyone who uses their money.

You can rage on the streets, fight the cops, write shit on posterboards, yell on the internet, and not one thing will change - not EVER - and not one moment until - you get the creation and control of money OUT of these Rothschild/Rockefeller/Sorors/Windsor's people's hands.

As long as you are using THEIR money things will continue as they have. Bitcoin is a start, but it needs to go further. I would say that people need to replace money. Start valuing each other instead of trinkets, and digits on a computer. People valuing each other is the way it has been throughout man's history until Monotheism and Roman Empire came along.

[–]henry2nd 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excellent information. +1000

Walking away from the rigged mating game is easy compared to getting control of our monetary system back in the hands of the people.

[–]areddituser542 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's kind of hard to start valuing each other because the heart of man (human beings) is so poisoned. Most relationships (I'm using that word loosely, not necessarily with the intimate kind between a man and a woman) between anyone nowadays is based on "what can you do for me?". To start valuing someone we need a foundation of trust. When reading the paper or watch the news and see people being taken for all they've got it hardens the heart. People don't readily trust each other blindly. If you do, I guarantee most will try to fuck you in some way.

[–]gods_bones 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is exactly how I feel. I used to love working because it made feel useful and productive, but I was chested out of my sales commissions, blamed by the CEO for things he did wrong, forced to pay my boss back out of my own salary, had work hours reduced, been fired without notice, promised things that were never intended to be delivered to me in order to hit quotas, I was even flat put told to write down lesser hours on my timestamp sheet because the boss didn't want to pay the full $1000 per week in wages. Oh yeah and along the way I found out that most of the companies I worked for were doing shady/illegal things, and everyone including my own family told me to shut up and go along because companies have to find a way to survive somehow.

[–]mofono 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel you, man, but you must endure. You need the money to live. Save up and invest just enough so that the income from your investments can sustain a minimalist life. Have faith in yourself and keep going, and never marry (otherwise you'll never retire).

[–]mofono 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Work is a necessary evil. You must work in order to eat and put a roof over your head.

Once you have enough for that, you can go into monk mode.

There are many people who save up heavily (e.g. 80% of their income) and are able to retire within 5 years of work. They retire living a very frugal life of course.

A good place to start is http://earlyretirementextreme.com/ but keep in mind that this guy is married. If you are not married, you can retire even faster.

If you're a manslave with a housewife, multiple children, car loans, mortgage, and credit card debt, you have an excuse. You're a slave, so get back to work, slave!

But if you're a MGTOW, you have no excuse. You should be financially independent. There is no woman sucking money out from you. You don't have anything holding you back. Just keep working, live a minimalist lifestyle, stay away from women, and invest your money for your future and for your freedom.

[–]Anonpakora 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Let's see how much Women don't need Men when physical war breaks out next. Societies revert to patriarchy in times of strife. Surprise surprise

[–]skeletonized 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

... and I'll whisper, "No."

-Rorschach

[–]DirtieHarry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rorschach

Greatest comic book hero of all time. Flawed, sociopathic, and a red-pilled, truth seeker.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a blast Friday afternoon at work. Most of the guys I work with are married, many are divorced and re-married. I was taunting them in a meeting.

"Guess what I'm going to do tonight?"

"What?"

"Whatever the fuck I want. I'm going car shopping. Guess what kind of car I'm going to get?"

"What?"

"Whatever the fuck I want. Guess what else I'm going to do this weekend? Sleep as much as I want."

"Asshole."

"You're damned right. Better rush home to your loving wives then."

[–]dumb_intj 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yeah brother. Dropping out of the work force is the best decision I made since dropping out of the dating scene. I live like a monk and while I don't think many people could handle it, I enjoy it.

Apparently you can call yourself leanFIRE instead of a frugal NEET now: /r/leanFIRE

[–]Ass-a-holic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I work full time at an ok job, mostly to fund my hooker habit. If I didn't want to get whores I would probably work part time

[–]reptilianoverlord94 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I didn't have to I wouldnt. In all honesty I think it would be great to go back to the good old days living on a plot of land living a self sustaining lifestyle. That's what I want in the future so for now I'll work towards that. Forget the materialistic bullshit we are fed nowadays. I mean working for "the man" I'd rather work to provide for me and those around me.

[–]ElectricGhostD 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Short, concise, and to the point.

[–]Herpnderp145 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was so eloquently put.

[–]soullessgeth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

so so true. this is me in real life

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[–]shadow1118 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (10子コメント)

ehhh dont agree

[–]Folwart 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I agree to a point, but it is other employees that are to blame. The group is willing to do more for less, because they are incompetent and have no actual self respect. My philosophy is this: pay less, get less. If a company wants 100% of my ability, they aren't getting it paying 25% of what it is worth. When I get the feeling they don't like it, I get a new job. Speaking of which, I'll be moving on again here soon.

[–]PinHunter65 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The only way to get decent raises in this new society is to move laterally.

[–]Folwart 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

That has been my experience. It is sickening really.

[–]PinHunter65 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

And then employers bitch about how employees arent loyal to their company.

[–]Folwart 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They aren't loyal to their employees either. When shit gets tight they are swift to pull benefits, reduce hours, lay off and project the blame downward.

[–]FritzLn 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

labor and capital will never be friends. feature of the system

[–]Folwart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A friend once took over a management position. Of 12 he kept 6, divided the wages of 4 to the 6. In so doing he saved the company money and increased wages and productivity. There are solutions, but there is a lot of middle and lower management power in the hands of idiots and good ol' boys, which often equate to the same thing. Useful idiots, their only purpose is to serve as a barrier between upper management and the revolving plebs.

[–]PinHunter65 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its all a big ol clusterfuck

[–]Klimthourglass 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see little difference between the legions of incompetent corporate yes-men and typical blue pill simps. Both get taken to the cleaners with their brown noses.

[–]Folwart 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. As Wilfred once said, "Everything has to do with everything." It is all related, everything is potentially a metaphor for something that has occurred and will occur again. Rare indeed is the individual that can see this, understand it and utilize it.