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Sanders vs. Cruz - LIVE DEBATE DISCUSSION THREAD (self.Conservative)

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[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Facts are a stubborn thing Bernie.

[–]KekGratiaRex [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As someone from Canada, fuck off. We have the longest wait times in the developed world. You don't get the coverage you need, you just die waiting for it.

[–]RavensFan15 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

damn those costs are brutal for Melissa. Ouch.

[–]eaglesfan23 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Bernie just answered a question with a question. Nice.

[–]YosoffNatural Rights Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

High deductibles under Obamacare are an enormous problem, I'm glad that came up.

Unfortunately, Bernie completely dodged the question.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Pam? Pam? ....Melissa.

[–]nevearzGuest User [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B46K_NGivQQ

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Man, this lady got screwed by the ACA! $12,000 annual payment with a $13,000 deductible?!?

[–]LegoFarmer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I know somebody in a similar dilemma. A lot of people I know pay the fine because it's cheaper lol.

[–]Vrael22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah but she makes lots of money so she gets to give to those less fortunate at the point of the socialist gun /s

[–]TheBarberOfFleetStPositivityBeacon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Very one sided moderating already.

[–]blizzardice [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If it were up to Bernie, you should be able to get flood insurance during Katrina.

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

...I'm sorry, are you implying flood insurance isn't a basic human right? /s

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well Sanders is just flat out lying. That's not what Cruz said at all.

[–]MDemagogue [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can't wait to see Bernie lay on the charm on this questioner!

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bash: Ssssssenator.... Sssssenator.... I'm going constantly interrupt you all fucking night...

[–]inquiryoffaith [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

CNN is really grinding my gears.

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Senator Cruz if you could answer the question"

"...I did. Multiple times."

Did Dana tune out of the debate for a bit there?

[–]NormVanBroccoli [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Is there anyone here who actually WOULD be in favor of single-payer?

[–]PM_ME_TOPLESS_MEMES [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They should have a show together. I would watch it.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie will fix things...

[–]NormVanBroccoli [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah and you DONT use words well, Bernie

[–]TheBarberOfFleetStPositivityBeacon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can't imagine having this angry old man yell at us every day as president. Poor old man always seems angry

[–]narutouzLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

They're surprisingly extremely civil.

[–]inquiryoffaith [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Didn't say it once".

YIKES

[–]MDemagogue [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel bad for the alzheimers patient debating Ted Cruz

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"I didn't say it once."

Haha, that's gold right there.

[–]raerpepes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie just got triggered

[–]NormVanBroccoli [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Why are Bernie's suits so fucking huge on him.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's IS a cheap suit...

[–]trenescese [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Oh, victim olympics have started already I see

[–]KillSwitchh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Lived a healthy lifestyle....yeah....debatable...

[–]JumpyPorcupineMinnesotan Reaganite [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Lived a healthy lifestyle

Hmmmm

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm glad Cruz is talking about FDA regulations. It takes an average of something like 12 years and 9 figures to pass a pharmaceutical product through testing (of which I think only about a quarter actually succeed in making it to the market) which puts the manufacturer deep into a financial hole. Add in the patent issues when foreign countries make generics and so avoid paying the original manufacturer and we have a real issue with companies needing to make their money back.

[–]LazyVanilla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It oughta be fun comparing the comments here to the ones in subreddits like /r/WayOfTheBern.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm trying to remember the question I was provided...

[–]YosoffNatural Rights Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

This debate would be better without the moderators or questions from the audience. Just let them both continue to talk to each other.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sanders: "Corporations bad!"

That's not an argument Bernie.

[–]NormVanBroccoli [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Hi Dana, how are ya.

That was actually kinda funny

[–]JManPoliticsFL GOP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ted is using Conservative tenants in his arguments, Bernie is going in 30 different directions to support Socialism.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie on greed...

[–]inquiryoffaith [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Unless you want to agree"

Oh my goodness how can they be so blatant.

[–]TheBarberOfFleetStPositivityBeacon [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I love Crowder but he's being loud. Any YouTube streams that is just the debate?

[–]NormVanBroccoli [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ahhhhh single payer!!

Nobody saw that coming

[–]ProfessorArrow [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Cruz has something different and factual to say each time. Sanders just keeps repeating the same stump speech lines over and over and over and over again.

[–]SmallsMT_02 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Have drug prices gone up rapidly since the passage of the ACA?

[–]jonesrr2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, more rapidly actually.

[–]SmallsMT_02 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So in a sense the ACA makes it harder on those with pre-existing conditions?

[–]PhilliesJawn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie is already pulling the emotional card, not even 5 minutes in.

[–]MDemagogue [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ted, lets work together on Medicare for all. HAHAHAHA

[–]Mister08 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Debate based drinking game thanks to Louder with Crowder's stream.

[–]JumpyPorcupineMinnesotan Reaganite [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Crowder needs to be quiet. I don't care about his game.

[–]beer_n_gunsconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Plenty of other streams to watch

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Sanders isn't capable of making a coherent argument. He's just repeating talking points he used durning his campaign.

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie is one huge talking point. Just throws out the same handful of lines in a different order every time he makes an argument.

[–]cajungator3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ted is like "Is there no one else!"

[–]inquiryoffaith [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

My goodness I forgot how good Cruz was. The carnival of the primaries detracted from this-- I don't want him to make a 2020 primary challenge as of now, but 2024 I think he needs to go for it again.

[–]shinypretty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Cruz might be the best debater alive. This will be good.

[–]Vrael22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I want a Cruz v. Shapiro debate. One of them has to take an opposite position.

[–]DavidSSD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie legitimately looks uncomfortable

[–]BreitbartWasMurdered [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Bernie is going to learn what being fucked twice in one year feels like tonight.

[–]beer_n_gunsconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Cruz gonna eat a bedtime snack of fried commie!

[–]chabanaisSic semper tyrannis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bernie: Hurr hurr you'll lose coverage!

Cruz: 6 million lost their plans... millions lost their doctor... premiums increased by $5,000.

[–]inquiryoffaith [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Trying to deny Cruz an opening statement? Yikes.

[–]hezzospike [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah seriously! "Senator Cruz, what should this country do about health care?"

Fairly loaded opening question for him, glad he said he deserved an opening statement too.

[–]jogarz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I already wish this had been the election match-up.

[–]YankeeBlues21 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Really Bernie? "Being a woman" is a pre-existing condition? Ugh....

[–]shinypretty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, in fairness to Uncle Bernie, I am a woman and I was born like this. So I guess technically he's right, kind of.

[–]PumaplayssdClassical Liberal (Conservative) [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh boi

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

BooYa... shut the Bash up...

[–]H0kiePokie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh god, CNN already "forgetting" to be fair to Cruz...

[–]JumpyPorcupineMinnesotan Reaganite [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

dealing with severe mental illness

No wonder Bernie likes the ACA.

[–]TheWindWaker01 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Alright so Sanders just exhausted all of his talking points in his opening statement...

[–]uswhole [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

how is that for a match up for the election?

[–]YosoffNatural Rights Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't remember Sanders being this blatantly dishonest during the primaries. He just told about half a dozen different lies.

[–]jonesrr2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's lied at least 8 times so far, blatantly.

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Drink every time Sanders uses a buzz word...

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Alcohol poisoning is a serious — and sometimes deadly — consequence of drinking large amounts of alcohol in a short period of time. Drinking too much too quickly can affect your breathing, heart rate, body temperature and gag reflex and potentially lead to a coma and death.

[–]ultimisConstitutionalist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah definitely a bad idea.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is that a little birdie? .... uhhhhhh.....

[–]aCreditGuru [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

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