I've more-or-less recently gotten off the RP train after a period of reflection helped me conclude that its values weren't compatible with mine. A number of folks pointed me here after I posted something about that in /r/exredpill. Been lurking for a while since then.
Here's my issue: I actually do hold some traditionalist views on gender. I don't think all gender roles are such a bad thing, or inherently destructive to people. I think the genders are different, in important, valuable and mutually complementary ways that are largely the product of millions of years of evolution and human civilization. In this way, I know I'm a lot like many men in our culture today.
So when I see all these arguments about whether gender even exists, and how to teach boys to be more sensitive or to stop acting like boys tend to act, a part of me recoils. I just can't identify with that at all, any more than I can with the toxicity of Red Pill. I feel like there's gotta be a third way.
Rather, when I think of the whole "positive masculinity" model, I think of embracing and emphasizing our identities as men in ways that are constructive to ourselves and those around us: as leaders, builders, protectors, intellectuals and otherwise. That's a model of masculinity that I think is worth countering the "beer-commercial model" that the culture pushes on us, and the misogynistic, antagonistic model that Red Pill likes to tout. But I don't know many people focusing on that now. Do you?
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