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[–]samsc2 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember people.... Your online accounts are not you. They are just character you've created for w/e purpose. They are a parody, a fictitious creation of yours. They do not represent the feelings or opinions of any real world entity. And that's all you have to say. Also remember that being removed from a job, fired, etc... for something a fictitious character said or did is grounds for a discrimination lawsuit. It's also illegal to be fired for it because it's not company property and you don't represent w/e company you work for. Get a lawyer immediately.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex[M] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (9子コメント)

So I got fired. This is not cool.

[–]1428073609 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's fucked up.

Thanks for modding this sub. You're the hero we needed, the one we never deserved.

"The most important thing to remember is that beautiful speech doesn't need protection—it's ugly speech that needs protection." --Jeff Bezos

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah I am out. Going to hand the sub across to these people. I fucking love the work the other mods have done. Stand by.

[–]Madman644Really david[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm so sorry this has happened to you man :(

I support whatever you decide to do to protect yourself and the other mods

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex[M] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Madman i do not like you much but I have to admit you are a fucking cunt of the highest order. Thank you for having my back.

[–]Madman644Really david[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's alright man, you'd do the same for me. Keep us all updated with what you intend to do.

[–]Objectively_Stated 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is that possible? How is it any of the companies business what you do on the internet on your own time?

[–]MewtwoStruckBack 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope you are able to do something legally to whoever it was that doxxed you, and that you end up with a better job with a higher salary.

[–]the_unseen_one 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's entirely fucked. I'm sorry man.

[–]Justincouldbemyname [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What? Man I am sorry to hear this. I cannot believe people are that petty!!!!

[–]zik9000 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Total solidarity for you guys.

I imagine this is a USA stuff.

What's the legal status of this behavior? Can't the doxxers be exposed themselves? Can't Mustaka's employer be exposed and contacted/boycotted?

[–]1428073609 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In reverse order of questions:

Can't Mustaka's employer be exposed and contacted/boycotted?

Mentioning the employer is a bad idea, because either 1) we'll harass them or 2) someone will harass them in our name. And Mustaka would get the blame for it. Let's not get the poor guy into any more trouble.

Can't the doxxers be exposed themselves?

If you could track down the doxxers and expose them to the police, that would be terrific. But there's some information asymmetry at play here: they don't have to expose any part of who they are to dox you. So that's never going to happen.

A fresh reddit account messages you your own address and employer. What can you do with that?

What you need to do before that happens: delete your WhitePages, don't use the same username on places where you have controversial opinions, hide your facebook account from the wider internet, set up google alerts for your powerword, etc. When you have opinions you might get fired for, get paranoid. When you post on subreddits like this one, get paranoid.

That doesn't mean you need to be scared, of course. It does mean that you should stay vigilant. And you can avoid like, 99% of all of that work just by not sharing information about yourself on the internet.

What's the legal status of this behavior?

Mustafa's in the clear, nothing wrong here in terms of the law. So you'd think that firing him doesn't make sense. Except that in the US, most people are hired "at-will" and can be fired at any time for any reason except for the ones set out in wrongful termination law (like being a member of a particular race or gender, just as two simple examples). So his firing is entirely legal. Just really really shitty.

[–]zik9000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

A fresh reddit account messages you your own address and employer. What can you do with that?

Ask lawyers to force Reddit to disclose the IP of the doxxer. (If this can be done in the USA, and if hopefully they didn't use foreign proxies.)

Get the FBI involved since this is a credible threat, they got involved for the fake threats against Anita S and anti GG.

[–]1428073609 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, you could get a subpoena written up and sent to Reddit.

But I doubt anything will come of it, because they very likely used Tor or some other proxy thing.

Still, it's worth a try.

As per the FBI, yeah, it's some kind of intimidation or harassment or something. So I'm sure you could get them involved. Again, though, it's unlikely anything will come of it.

[–]Justincouldbemyname [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I doubt any of that would work. The doxxers could have a fake IP address. I won't use reddit unless I was protected.

[–]ShiningConcepts 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck these doxxers. All they are proving is that they are so afraid of us that they need to stoop so low. I sincerely wish all of you guys the best of luck and hope this situation can be resolved.

[–]zehr 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Turn sub private. We don't need anymore people here.

Create new accounts exclusively for modding this sub, step down with other acct. Keep new acct clean, ffs.

Or just stand behind what you say here, fuck the cunts.

[–]regularfreakinguser 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Turn sub private. We don't need anymore people here.

Yes

Create new accounts exclusively for modding this sub, step down with other acct. Keep new acct clean, ffs.

Yes

Or just stand behind what you say here, fuck the cunts.

Risk is not worth the reward.

[–]zehr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Risk is not worth the reward.

You're right. As shitty as it is.

[–]mrp_1844 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the flack is bad, you know you are over the target.

[–]poison_pills 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Link to the original thread for those of us who didnt read it.

[–]Madman644Really david[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/5r6xw3/mods_being_doxxed/

The deleted text was:

"Just got news that some of the mods here are being doxxed. Doxxing is against reddit site wide rules. We will fight this and those that are doing this abhorrent behavior."

[–]Zantitrach 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Does reddit as a company not have anything to do/assist with in a situation like this?

However, it is not good PR for them to just not care that this threat is being carried out successfully, policy or not.

[–]zehr 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll blow 20 dudes and six horses if Reddit decides to support /r/PussyPassDenied instead of the Cunt Brigade.

[–]AwasPanas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Middle-out?

[–]zehr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously. I'd want to get it done with quick, gotta be efficient.

[–]the_unseen_one 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit has made it clear they don't give a shit about bad PR after all the censoring, banning, and other related things they have done. Do you think they're going to come up to bat for pussy pass denied? No way. In reality, they probably love the assholes that are ruining lives because that's what they really believe in. It's a shame.

[–]AwasPanas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't there a way to keep the mod list hidden and just have a 'contact mods' (ie. report) button feature? If not, Reddit needs to implement it.

[–]HeadCrusher3000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How does one get doxxed to begin with? Like how does someone figure all that out based on my user name? Or do they like hack into some thing?

[–]SmellyPeen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Hello, I am a doxer. I have doxed multiple people, and I like to do things like send Qurans to their employer under their name and send them pizza during live streaming - always the best when their mom comes into their room to ask if they ordered a pizza while they're in the middle of a game.

It's pretty simple, people like to create a brand for themselves online, so they'll have handles that stretch back over a decade. You find their real name, and a general location that they have lived in, and reverse lookup on them. Connect the dots with family members, and you have their Facebook or LinkedIn, where people list their employer.

I do recon by fire with the pizza delivery to confirm the address. If there's 3 possible addresses, all of them get pizza, and if the person is stupid enough(or smart enough), they'll announce online that people are sending them pizza. Or if they're a live streamer, you can hear their doorbell ring.

Tips to not be doxable:

  • have separate handles for everything

  • don't link your handles to each other

  • don't buy a house in your name - county tax records are public

  • don't have a Facebook, or if you must, don't link to your online handles from it, and for the love of God, don't post the same exact things on Facebook that you post from your pseudo-anonymous accounts.

  • don't put your real name out there

  • don't say where you go to school

  • don't say where you work

And my personal favorite,

  • have a name that is on the top 10 most common names in America

I lucked out in that department, but that doesn't always protect you. I've doxed John Smith before.

Also, it's really important to teach your children these tactics. Unless it's for work or school, it doesn't need your real name or real email address.

  • use throwaway email addresses for registering accounts online.

Don't ever trust the admin of a website.

[–]Justincouldbemyname [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you for the tips! I would also recommend not being 100% honest about who you are. Thus people would have a hard time finding out who I am.

Also why have you doxxed people and are you teaching any classes on how to lol.

[–]the_unseen_one 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, this is an enormous shame, and the people doxxing the mods here are enormous pieces of shit. I wish I had some useful words or advice to give, but all I can say is that I feel for all of you affected and really hope that the damage from these dicks is minimal.

[–]D3ADCAT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If anyone of you decides to step down I will be more than willing to help this sub out and take a moderator position.

[–]Grandma_Hitler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't wait for karma to hit these doxxing animals where it hurts.