397b1e No.9115493
Call them what they are:
COMMUNISTS
Antifa is just a clever lefty use of language used to cover their true nature. It validates them to a degree. The typical normalfag can by easily played by this sophistry.
>"Your against Antifa? Oh, so then you are a fascist!"
bf2627 No.9115509
60486c No.9115544
>comparing based comrade Stalin to homosexual muslim enablers
They are complete fucking opposites of each other, faggot. Remember the Churchill's saying on which Trump hinted “The Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists.”.
bf2627 No.9115580
>>9115544
thats not the point.
The point is to demonize the democrats to win elections by tying them in with violent groups and historically violent movements and governments.
f7a424 No.9115592
>>9115544
Kill yourself. Stalin was a genocidal piece of shit and is the logical endpoint of the behavior these faggots are exhibiting.
658f5f No.9115595
>>9115544
Communism is 100% a Jewish invention and nothing about it has ever been "based". McCarthy was right.
c5f445 No.9115600
>>9115544
>these mindless jew pawns are different from past mindless jew pawns
go away /leftypol/
397b1e No.9115612
>>9115544
>based comrade Stalin
/leftypol/ go away
397b1e No.9115625
>>9115544
Missed the first post Chaim
5588d6 No.9115628
>>9115544
Just one more try, buddy
134cc6 No.9115704
>>9115493
Good reminder. Also call refugees what they are, "illegal immigrants".
6c48da No.9115710
>>9115592
>Stalin was a genocidal piece of shit
Hitler was too. And don't try to prove me wrong that Hitler was a shiny butterfly who couldn't hurt a fly, you all follow his ways in wanting to kill all racial minorities and all jews (not all jews are evil, i've seen jews that openly admitted crimes of Soros and Rothchilds, those are just using antisemitism to hide away their crimes). Many of you do it just because you are internet tough guys, and in reality most of you are not even white. Most of you don't really have to worship dead Hitler when you have Trump alive.
You have to admit that antifa is more fascist than you are. Bunch of white people with huge racial hate towards other white people.
Call them fascists, do it, it works for normalfags.
(>implying the holocaust happened) 2dc27d No.9115722
>>9115544
Back to your containment board lefty/pool/ kike sperg
f7a424 No.9115738
>>9115710
>Hitler was too.
Nope. There has never been any primary documentation showing Hitler ever ordered mass killings.
6c48da No.9115748
>>9115738
So concentration camps suddenly grew like mushrooms? Maybe soviets had magical building rising powder to build them?
(>implying the holocaust happened) 5588d6 No.9115767
>>9115748
>I've never read Irving
6f8ba9 No.9115788
>>9115748
holocaust ain't real, you're most likely baiting anyway so im not gonna bother. you can find information about holocaust hoax on /pol/
I agree on the usage of word communism. Burgers have to destroy them before they destroy burgers and then the rest of the world.
f7a424 No.9115792
>>9115748
Detainment camps. No evidence they were ever used for mass killing.
6eab03 No.9115838
>>9115748
the reddit is strong here
f700ca No.9115848
>>9115544
Double dubs confirm. Uncle Josef did nothing wrong!
0c5275 No.9115872
>>9115748
The holocaust is a hoax. There were deaths in the prison/labor camps, but they were caused by an epidemic of Typhus exacerbated by starvation and allied destruction of supply routes. Typhus is spread by lice, and Zyklon B is a de-lousing agent. At the concentration required to kill a person, the gas chambers by design would not have even been able to contain the gas successfully. Ovens were used to destroy the clothing, sheets, etc of Typhus victims in an effort to halt the epidemic, and possibly to cremate those who died from the disease. The ovens could not possibly have been used in a mass extermination. Even modern ovens running 24/7 can't reach anywhere near the supposed rate of cremation that supposedly occurred at Auschwitz. No mass graves were ever discovered. Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials showed signs of torture, and the Jewish man who 'interrogated' the head of Auschwitz later admitted in his published book that he tortured a confession from him. Germans kept no details whatsoever of any plan to get rid of Jews, and much of their documentation of the prison camps contradicts the myth of the holocaust. The only evidence for the holocaust is testimonies from supposed survivors of supposed death camps. Several other hoaxes (like Jew soap and skin lampshades) were just recently proven to be false. Likewise, the showers and gas chambers are simply products of equal parts hysteria and propaganda. In the past century, elite Jews have profited enormously from the myth of the holocaust, and holocaust denial is illegal in several European countries. Truth does not fear investigation. The holocaust is a lie.
1e6d18 No.9115954
>there are people on /pol/ who still believe in the holohoax
50b5a7 No.9115976
>>9115710
>commies are actually fine
>hitler was evil
>call our opponents fascists, make fascism a boogeyman
Just where the fuck do you think you are? Kill yourself and never post here again
9b986c No.9115985
>>9115954
They are ON /pol/, but they are not /pol/. Just tourists or leftist shilling here because their own board is a shithole.
a894b3 No.9115993
>>9115954
This thread is pretty kewl, the OP's image baited out lefty/pol/ shills so they can be banned.
6bc2a3 No.9116065
>>9115509
As much as I would like to, that would be fake news. They're a split OF the democratic party, not the party itself. Granted they both need free helicopter rides.
374c9f No.9116102
>>9115592
Muh 574749 gorillions!
606945 No.9116154
…but I'm friends with a communist who hates niggers and wants an all-white nation, I'd rather call the antifa the name they want to be called, or sometimes I like to call them filthy egalitarians. I'm a National Socialist but there are communists in my area, old-school ones that actually were in the military and have killed niggers in Angola and hanged faggots in Morocco, and I'm not going to talk shit about them when they have the same important goals as me. Yes they sometimes say some rhetoric about muh working class and so on but otherwise they oppose non-whites being in white nations. Now, maybe in your area you don't have this kind of communist around; ok and great. For me I have to maintain good relations with the communists in my areas and also to call the younger so called "communists" fakes, making them realize they would never be accepted by the original communists, and thus subverting them to join the "communist cause of killing faggots and non-whites" or else making them rebrand themselves.
fe5d6b No.9116158
It's the same shit as with BLM - if they were called for what they are (black supremacists), they wouldn't have the moral support that they do.
cb9855 No.9116179
>>9115748
Camps existing doesn't mean genocide was the plan.
cb9855 No.9116189
>>9116154
Those aren't communists you fucking dolt. Just because they're retards doesn't make them communists.
606945 No.9116191
>>9115710
Antifa is not fascist, antifa is egalitarian.
I'm not going to call them fascists because they don't deserve that title and that word does not deserve to be demonized and should be used in a negative way.
The only thing Adolf Hitler did wrong was not killing off all the non-whites and jews.
606945 No.9116211
>>9116189
>Those aren't communists you fucking dolt. Just because they're retards doesn't make them communists.
They call themselves communists and they were part of the French Foreign Legion. I don't care what they really are, they are subversive and helping convert people in my area to hating niggers and jews and faggots, while spewing slogans like "workers don't kill workers". The original communists in many countries did kill jews and non-whites and fags btw.
9b1a16 No.9116229
This, after all, is what they stand for: destruction of love, family, borders, nations, religions and non-materialistic thought. Straight from the communist manifesto.
e1a379 No.9116237
>>9115704
> Not Islamic Invaders
e1a379 No.9116252
>>9115710
Hitler was far too nice. Had he been as brutal as the Communists, we wouldn't have Israel, Jewish subversion, Communism, etc.
0934c7 No.9116267
>>9116252
Meh, if he really did commit a holocaust Germany would have been nuked to ground earlier. The fact that there was no holocaust was the only reason America didn't join the war earlier.
599dbb No.9116313
Cant label communists as a terror group
606945 No.9116323
>>9116229
You could say that about Christianity too.
cb1cb1 No.9116324
>>9116313
Says who? Communists?
9ad15a No.9116337
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>>9115710
Read Savitri Devi you commie cuck.
1fa762 No.9116338
>>9115493
The blurry definition of "fascist" works in their favor as well. If you want to fuck with antifa, try to get them to define "fascist." Then ask them how they're different in behaviour. Bonus points if you can get them to concede that the only way they wouldn't be "fascist" is if they worked individually or against their own group interests
cb1cb1 No.9116347
Judging from the amount of shilling and asshurt on here, OP hit a nerve and is onto something.
f7a424 No.9116357
>>9116191
>Antifa is not fascist, antifa is egalitarian.
No, they're totalitarian.
a894b3 No.9116375
>>9116323
>Christianity is anti-family, anti-love, anti-nation, anti-borders and anti-religion
Shill, please go. Nowhere in the bible does it say a nation is not allowed to have borders, or be a nation in the first place. The part where it says love your neighbor actually says something like love your racial kinsman in Hebrew, not to love everyone.
009698 No.9116396
They aren't communist. They don't actually want a transition in government, they just want whitey out and minorities in. That is the totality of their political stance.
5bbe47 No.9116409
>>9116267
>The fact that there was no holocaust was the only reason America didn't join the war earlier.
Or perhaps the AFC did the best they could to ensure non-intervention for as long as they did.
a894b3 No.9116415
>>9116375
>>9116323
You can look this up in bible translation software and confirm, I did just that after having a heated argument with a Christian about it, and he ended up admitting I was right.
>Hitler is quoted as saying that when translating the Bible from the Hebrew, Martin Luther translated a certain word as "racial kinsman." "But then," Hitler relates, "the rabbi came and said that the word means 'neighbor.' And so we have the translation: 'love thy neighbor as thyself' rather than, as it should be: 'Love thy racial kinsman as thyself.'"
p68. The Fame of a Dead Mans Deeds - Chapter on Hitler
a894b3 No.9116426
>>9116415
Sorry, 67 and then a tiny bit on 68.
606945 No.9116519
>>9116357
What's wrong with totalitarianism?
Start saying words like "globalist", "egalitarian", "liberal", etc. with as much disgust and contempt as you can.
Stop demonizing anything far-right. Use terms like National Socialist, Fascist, Authoritarian, Monarchist, etc. in a positive way.
606945 No.9116538
>>9116375
>>9116415
Regardless of your muh bible shit, the billion or so Christians in this world are all anti-white mudshits and race traitors and egalitarians.
Only a very small minority, maybe a few million of Christians, are not kiked.
Fact remains, Soviet Russia purged its jews and shitskins and faggots, and morphed into the Putin-led Russia of today.
Meanwhile all the Christians in my area are funding the import of shitskin rapefugees through the churches to come on over here and kill and rape us in Ontario, while homeless whites are ignored.
Makes me pretty fucking mad at Christianity.
6f7877 No.9116544
>>9115544
>>>/leftypol/ might be more your speed
f7a424 No.9116552
>>9116519
>What's wrong with totalitarianism?
Totalitarianism is soviet style thought control. Fascists are authoritarian, not totalitarian.
009698 No.9116557
>>9116415
>implying the OG zogsmasher Martin Luther would take pointers from a Rabbi on translating a Latin text
8febcb No.9116560
>>9115544
>based
>comrade Stalin
get walled Commie
009698 No.9116570
>>9116538
but Putin-led Russia is a shithole that is only looked upon favourably compared to ACTUAL TRAITOR Mikhail "Mark of Cain" Gorbachev.
606945 No.9116583
>>9116538
Also to be clear, Christianity to me is NOT the bible, nor is it your minority interpretation of it. To me Christianity is the living tradition, the churches, the saints, and its adherents. Christianity of today is kiked. Good luck subverting them back to a non-kiked state but don't waste your time on me, I'm not a Christian but I try to subvert everyone I meet and I study all the religions. I subvert hindus, muslims, and Christians any chance I get. I would consider myself a Hermeticist though.
>>9116552
Are you sure about that? When people talk about these things, it's usually best to listen to the people who self-describe themselves as 'x'. Aka don't listen to what a bunch of non-fascists say fascism is, listen to what fascists like Mosley say fascism is.
Would totalitarians themselves admit they are what you say they are? Kind of like Soros admitting to being a globalist kike in his book?
694527 No.9116585
Communists are only a part of antifa, and they aren't even its most important segment. Anarchists are part of antifa too.
By renaming antifa to "communists" you take anarchists (and others) and their niggery actions away from the spotlight.
606945 No.9116606
>>9116570
It's partly a shithole because it has so many gooks in its territory.
IDK what to say to you, hopefully Putin will be encouraged by Trump to become more Far-Right.
009698 No.9116608
>>9116583
I think that pushing the "Cucked Rome/Anglicans" angle to encourage people to convert to Orthodox is the best bet for christfags in the modern West.
cd5274 No.9116700
>>9116585
It's the other way around. Communists have agitators and labeling them what they actually are helps to fight against it. Besides antifa is merely a nickname given to a group pushing communist ideals.
606945 No.9116741
>>9116700
Antifa doesn't really strike me as having a coherently ideology, a set of ideals, or anything. They're just spergs who took the bluepill too hard.
694527 No.9116747
>>9116700
I may agree with the first one, but this
>Besides antifa is merely a nickname given to a group pushing communist ideals
is wrong, again. I had quite a large group of antifa friends in the past and 99% were anarchists. They also HATED commies.
It may be an ambiguous term, but it is so in order to serve as a big tent for many leftist groups to work together under it.
cd5274 No.9116773
>>9116747
You do realise commies are just using the anarchists to tear down whatever stands in their way right? Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean these people can't work unwittingly with communism.
694527 No.9116819
>>9116773
Both if us admitted that anarchists and communists are working together under the guise of "antifa", I still don't see why should we not only stop talking about anarchists but also assume that communists also rule over them. I mean it'd be cool if you gave me some proof that communists are the leading faction but until then your argument is quite holey still.
cd5274 No.9116839
>>9116819
>implying anecdotal evidence is evidence
You seem pretty intent on trying to keep commies out of the spotlight.
d37688 No.9116845
>>9115493
THIS
Normies will be way more rustled over communists.
fdc504 No.9116851
Sticky this thread. I have found absolutely nothing that works better than red scare style anticommie propaganda. It fucking terrifies them, like a kike when exposed. This is what works, we eed to use it.
694527 No.9116873
>>9116839
I'll immediately disregard my anecdotal evidence if you prove me wrong. I'm not even barring you from doing it right now. Will you?
e4038a No.9116886
Hitler was national socialist.
Stalin was international socialist.
Both were socialist.
The weak weren't meant to be told to work, not by a central planner. They were simply meant to find tools on their way to food.
cd5274 No.9116893
>>9116873
>prove my anecdotal evidence is wrong
By definition it means nothing. You really seem triggered by calling antifa commies. Why is that?
e4038a No.9116904
>>9116893
>Convince me!
>You didn't convince me because my parroted opinions are more important than your documented events.
Socialists think themselves the masters of eternity and all it holds. Remember this, every time socialists speak of "sharing."
cd5274 No.9116936
>>9116904
>anecdotal evidence is now documented events
Nigger what?
efd647 No.9116937
>>9115748
Dude, you are arguing against this board's cult. No matter how much primary source evidence, no matter how illogical their conclusions, they will never give it up. The neckbeard communist they posted above was originally a /pol/lack and the fact that it can be so easily switched helps show that fascism and communism are simply two sides of the same fucked up coin with the only difference being globalism vs nationalism.
Just like arguing with leftists arguing with /pol/ is equivalent to arguing with a brick wall.
(>implying the holocaust happened) 5bbe47 No.9116951
>>9116886
>Both were socialist.
Lurk more
694527 No.9116956
>>9116893
We're just making a circle now, but I'll say again that commies are not the only existing influence in antifa. This is undisputable fact.
You clearly are for some reason intent on making commies seem like the leaders of antifa, though, even when you have nothing as proof for their leading role.
If anecdotal evidence is nothing, then what does no evidence count as?
cd5274 No.9116984
>>9116956
I will repeat the question because your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking. Why are you so triggered by calling antifa what they actually are, communist agitators/useful idiots.
694527 No.9117030
>>9116886
Prussian socialism=/=Marxist socialism.
>>9116984
Because I have nothing that proves the claim. It's evidently BS since you don't do either.
d372c7 No.9117037
>>9116937
>hurrhurr everyone is dum and brainwashed but me
"neutral"
cd5274 No.9117044
>>9117030
>muh anecdotal evidence
Keep clinging to that, and lurk more newfag.
100df5 No.9117051
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>>9115748
Concentration camps were first boot camps. People were taught the taste of pushing themselves to serve the common good by labor, culture and the sense of community.
During the war they became prison camps, but never ever did they become concentration camps.
The holocaust is a lie, artificially kept alive in order to poison our children's mind with ethnomasochism and vaccinate the white man against nationalism.
100df5 No.9117061
>>9117051
>but never ever did they become concentration camps.
*extermination
9d058c No.9117074
>>9115493
pyfwy don't even have to burn down reichstag yourself.
694527 No.9117104
>>9117044
Your "opinion" is neither evidence nor an argument either. Hell, if I trusted my anecdotal evidence so much I wouldn't even waste my time talking to a dumb faggot who only appeals to everything else except fact.
cd5274 No.9117115
>>9117104
>muh anecdotal evidence is fact
Cry more bitch nigger.
b17b0d No.9117119
So we are in agreement ANTIFA are a bunch of Communist suppourted by Jews.
152cd8 No.9117125
>>9115544
>“The Fascists of the future will be the anti-fascists.”
Wrong, WE are the fascists, kike.
606945 No.9117141
>>9117119
They're mostly anarchists with some communists. They are however 100% retards.
a10896 No.9117143
>>9116951
Both were lefty socialists dumbshit.
http://louderwithcrowder.com/myth-busted-actually-yes-hitler-was-a-socialist-liberal/
As for the holocaust
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how-to-refute-holocaust-denial
>inb4 disregarding because you are afraid of facts
>inb4 disregarding due to site name.
Now go ahead faggots, ban this ip too. I'm sure you goys will redpill the world hiding behing ban-happy mods and an inability to face facts. Hmm, who else does that. Oh yeah, commie antifa fags.
Dont expect responses, i dont care to read shit i cant reply to
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) d372c7 No.9117169
>>9117143
>jewishvirtuallibrary.org
Wew
694527 No.9117179
>>9117115
See this shit mods? This retard is the result of you banning book club threads when they dare reaching more than 50 replies.
100df5 No.9117193
>>9117143
I followed your link and wtf I hate nahtzees now.
76df01 No.9117208
>>9115493
You fucking idiot.
Call them anti-fascists.
This makes fascists look good and peaceful and appealing by comparison, you moron.
cd5274 No.9117210
>>9117179
>deflection : the post
It's not my fault you're a gigantic faggot :^)
fdc504 No.9117242
>>9116893
Ha, you found leftypol! They ARE commies, that's why they fear being called commies. Once they are recognized as communist, all of the old cold war anti-communism laws suddenly obviously apply to them, and we can have them all bagged and tagged legally.
b17b0d No.9117251
>>9117141
Make the left attack the left my friend look at the socialist outrage at us labeling them Communist.
000000 No.9117255
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38831313
694527 No.9117259
>>9117193
oy vey
>>9117210
Scan the thread for more people opposing your groupthink, it'll be fun to see how many respond to retardation and word-twisting this high.
cd5274 No.9117270
>>9117259
>/leftypol/ tries to pretend it isn't assblasted
694527 No.9117290
>>9117242
I recognize the existence of commies in antifa m8, I just have no reason to believe they're the leading faction (and, as OP claims, the ONLY faction).
fdc504 No.9117303
>>9117270
This thread should be stickied due to the level of shilling. It is proof of success already.
cd5274 No.9117317
>>9117303
Yeah the commies are really triggered by calling them commies. Almost like when you call a kike a kike.
41b673 No.9117342
>>9115544
Why did a triple dubs post have to be so fucking terrible?
>>>/leftypol/
fdc504 No.9117354
>>9117290
They have always been behind it. For a hundred fucking years, commies have used dumb anarchists as goons against us, and then turn on the goons once winning. Also, they "antifa" uses both the red and black flag, which is the proof of them being commoe ran you fucking nimwit, they wave this fact around. They're also terrified of being publicly known as commies, as commies are and have been the enemy for almost a century.
The USA hired nazis after the war. Commies always must die. The propaganda wars are balanced in our favor.
694527 No.9117355
>>9117270
I'll just leave you to your retardation since you don't even bother to want to factually convince yourself at this point.
cd5274 No.9117375
>>9117355 (waste)
>/leftypol/ admits defeat
acf6c7 No.9117395
>>9115722
Better version of that without the stahlhelm.
694527 No.9117407
>>9117354
That makes a bit more sense now.
I actually didn't know they waved this fact (red and black flag=anarchists are undercover commies) around. Can you link me to something incriminating like this? That would clear a lot of things up.
694527 No.9117413
>>9117375
Filter yourself my man.
cd5274 No.9117421
82830e No.9117424
>>9115493
>mfw my high school teacher asked the class point blank which was worse, Stalin or Hitler
735240 No.9117428
>You properly name them and they sperg out
Really makes you think
5652bb No.9117438
It doesn't matter what we call them. They all wear the same fucking uniform.
14c676 No.9117552
If you call them judeo-bolsheviks you could probably trigger a lot of people and open redpill opportunities.
fdc504 No.9117554
>>9117407
I'm not quite sure what you're asking for. So instead I'll try to sum some things up.
Black Flag = Anarchists
Red Flag = Communists.
Antifa uses the red flag in front, and the black flag behind it. (((commies))) speak, anarchists cary their weight as slaves.
Back in spain they dud this against Franko. The commies coopted a tribalist movement and used universities to turn them into anarchists and put themselves in charge calling the thing AnarchoSyndicalism, which had a red and black flag. The commies distanced themselves from this though because they SOLD OUT all of the anarchos in spain to save their own skins. This is actually why traditional anarchists hate commies, and THIS is why we need to call these fucks commies more than anything else. If we make it clear that kikish commies are running "antifa" to the public scene, they will eventually succumb to infighting and the same divisions that turned the anarchos against the commies in the first place, allowing franko to win spain.
5285fe No.9117556
>>9115493
>>9115592
>>9115595
I've been saying this. JIDF has shills all over the place calling Antifa "fascists". How fucking retarded is that? Yet the normalfag sheep are buying it, repeating it (especially that Churchill quote) & it keeps marxism/communism out of the public consciousness.
This is the perfect opportunity to reveal what unchallenged marxist indoctrination leads to, but it's being covered up by kikes & useful idiots crying "they are the real fascists, fellow goyim! they're like n-nazis!" It is absolutely deliberate attempt to keep marxism & communism under the radar even when they're assaulting people in plain sight.
fe572b No.9117574
>>9115493
I call them bolsheviks or jews.
721cb5 No.9117578
>>9115954
They're illegal immigrants from pozzed sites and boards. They're going to have to go back.
975df7 No.9117606
b09837 No.9117637
>>9117125
You all are fucking mongoloid kids screaming at minorities on the internet, not fascists. You support a person who would get you killed for not being white. You all divided by haplogroups and will never submit your own people to support each other, like brits hate poles.
/pol/ is civic nationalist in denial.
cd5274 No.9117655
694527 No.9117706
>>9117552
Too complex for the average normalfag tbh.
>>9117554
Makes even more sense now. You got my full support. I'll RP as an old-school anarchist and try to rile other anarchists against welfare-gobbling iPhone-using burger turds that victimize the working class for their own selfish gain (with extra quotations from Bakunin for extra assmad :^)).
cb5e53 No.9117769
>>9115493
>>9117428
>>You properly name them and they sperg out
OP has caused the shills to reveal themselves. We need to meme leftists into being called what they really are.COMMUNISTS not NAZIS.
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faf1dd No.9117786
>>9116415
>>9116557
>translating the Bible from the Hebrew
>rabbi
>'love thy neighbor as thyself'
But Luther's source material was the Textus Receptus from Erasmus; both the OT (Septuagint) and new were in Koine Greek.
5e5c69 No.9117799
>>9116886
>Hitler was national socialist.
>Stalin was international socialist.
Stalin was also national socialist.
Socialism in One Country (Russian: Социализм в одной стране Sotsializm v odnoi strane) was a theory put forth by Joseph Stalin in 1924, elaborated by Nikolai Bukharin in 1925 and finally adopted by the Soviet Union as state policy…..That turn toward national communism was a shift from the previously held Marxist position that socialism must be established globally (world communism), and it was in opposition to Leon Trotsky's theory of permanent revolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
>Both were socialist.
And they were both nationalist socialist.
4b5692 No.9117817
>>9115710
Hey there CTR. I think you got .01 shekels for that shill post!
faf1dd No.9117830
>>9117799
"civic" national socialist
fdc504 No.9117862
>>9117706
Remember to redpill the anarchists on communism as hard as possible, always naming the jews while hiding your powerlevel.
694527 No.9117888
>>9117862
That's why I mentioned Bakunin, he was an antisemite and also had quarrels with Marx. I bet most anarkiddies don't even know his name.
47839a No.9117902
>>9115493
Agreed.
>>9115509
Democrats should be called socialists.
b02e2b No.9117937
They like being called Communists. Call them what they really are. Spoiled college students.
9b1a16 No.9117938
>>9116415
>>9116323
I think the unconditional love shit is the most misunderstood Christian tenet. What it really means is to have compassion, because ultimately our souls, our consciousness exists because of the same creating principle. Yet, we all exist at different levels of brokenness, or degeneracy, as perfect behavior is unattainable by humans, it's just something we can aspire to. The important thing is to realize that nobody is immune from degeneracy and to keep moving forward for your own betterment and everybody else's.
fdc504 No.9117994
>>9117888
Your digits hold interest, but I cannot read this bakunin's biography without wanting to strangle the ungrateful bastard and usurp all that he had.
9eb94b No.9118068
>>9115544
>based
>Stalin
>anything mildly authoritarian is fascism
>>>/out/
>>>/leftypol/
a4913a No.9118094
>>9115544
Churchill never said that.
694527 No.9118133
>>9117994
Yeah he wasn't the brightest guy around. Very lively and really big guy, but he was really ineffective in composing a book despite his education and plenty of time during his prison years.
d062c4 No.9118138
>>9115493
I suggest we start calling them Stalinists for a couple of reasons.
1) The "communist" label has long been appropriated by leftists a long time ago since the general term it doesn't carry many negative connotations for them and is seen as fashion statement by them.
2) Stalin is regarded very negatively enough as the "bad communist" among leftists themselves and they take offense at being compared to him. Here is something funny: I triggered a libcuck in conversation by calling CNN a Stalinist media. A leftist being called Stalinist is the equivalent to a normalfag being accused of being a Nazi.
d062c4 No.9118153
>>9118138
No, scratch that… Its the equivalent to calling a nigger a nigger.
5ce344 No.9118277
>>9115544
>Josef "Totally Not Controlled By The Majority Jewish Inner Party" Stalin
>Based
5ce344 No.9118339
>>9118299
He was perfectly fine with their overwhelming presence until they started to target him directly. That's as 'good goy' as it gets.
000000 No.9118515
>>9115704
Invaders would be better. Pseudorefugees is good too, and flies well in moderately pozzed spaces where you need to be more subtle.
>>9116886
lolberg detected
000000 No.9118634
>>9117556
>>9117769
Daily reminder that "nazi" is not a description, but a communist meme. It never described any ideological or political position, but rather "le ebil murderous whoever-opposes-current-marxist-orthodoxy".
We might be able to hijack that meme and turn it upon its creators: "See? We told you communists are the real nazis! Only fascists can effectively protect you from evil nazi communists!"
Let's meme "nazi" becoming synonymous with "communist".
9ba267 No.9118652
I'm gonna keep calling them insane libcuck subhuman monsters.
They're below niggers.
They're below chimps.
They're not human and it should be legal to exterminate them.
d3a387 No.9118796
>>9118634
>tor user
>most pozzed idea ive ever heard
it checks out
c84763 No.9118866
>>9115544
Nice triple dubs, late Stalin (after defeating Hitler) is somewhat based, the previous one was completely Jewified and Power-Hungry.
09e9bb No.9118899
>hates communists
>openly celebrates when Russia, inventor of communism, hacks our elections
???
(>russians invented communism) d062c4 No.9118919
>>9118899
Russia today is more like a Tsarist Russia before revolution than the Soviet Union.
c84763 No.9118963
>>9116211
I've met those people too, mostly on third-world countries that had a right-wing dictatorship once. Like Portugal, Spain, Chile and Argentina. I tell them that they would barely be considered communist by today's standards.
78a162 No.9118979
>>9118899
>openly celebrates when Russia, inventor of communism,
the bolsheviks were majority jewish (2% of the population lol) and Marx had rabbis in his family.
e62705 No.9118985
>>9115493
They are anarcho-communists, not quite the Stalinist commies you think of. Just retarded drug addicts who believe in an oxymoron. After all, communism can't exist with anarchy. They use anarchy to plant a communist state once everything crumbles. Our mission is to force a NatSoc state in the fall, destroying their idealist dystopia. Stop defending neocohens but do co-opt the anrchist's aims, that is how we just might get a strong white ethnostate.
15fdd2 No.9119007
>>9115710
>hitler
>genocidal piece of shit
>>>/leftypol/
>>9115748
>implying
>>>/leftypol/
>>9116154
>friends with an /ourguy/ commie
the only good commie is a dead one, now please:
>>>/leftypol/
>>9116886
>hitler
>a socialist like stalin the commie
>>>/leftypol/
>>9116937
JUST
>>>/leftypol/
>>9117143
you won't get banned when you go back to where you belong >>>/leftypol/
7bf2fa No.9119014
>>9118899
>openly celebrates when Russia, inventor of communism, hacks our elections
What do you believe they did, exactly? Shitpost on social media?
6ecdae No.9119025
>>9115544
>stalin
>based
>still not knowing he was just a gangster punk that only wanted to murder his own people in the name of jew
2a570b No.9119026
>>9115710
>Call them fascists, do it, it works for normalfags.
Wouldn't that be hypocritical? They are still authoritarian, although not exactly fascist.
7bf2fa No.9119044
>>9119025
He was a Jew; they weren't his people for the most part.
e62705 No.9119065
>>9119014
Many outsiders did shitpost a ton in order to get Trump elected, not just Russia. The international community is aware that the US runs the shit show. Having a isolationist USA greatly benefits the world in a way the average burger is oblivious to.
22ff39 No.9119085
>>9118899
> Russia, inventor of communism
nigger what?
cb1cb1 No.9119124
>>9118985
No shit. Don't be pedantic about memes. We are trying to turn normalfags, not stroke our sense of historical correctness.
000000 No.9119143
>>9118796
You think we can't outkike the kikes? Even with ancient Egyptian gods lending us a hand?
cb1cb1 No.9119157
>>9118899
>hacks our elections
Nah.
cb1cb1 No.9119173
>>9118634
>>9119143
>Really, it's a good idea fellow pollocks
e62705 No.9119256
>>9119124
/pol/ wasn't meant to be a kosher "political movement", Natdoc Germany used to be practically worshiped, , /pol/ is supposed to be a place where truth is exposed. Instead, we got retards from reddit and cuckchan who believe in the whole aut-kike narrative and push it here.
e62705 No.9119262
5e0613 No.9119277
>>9115493
While we're at it, how about those of us who are still pussy-footing around centrism get off our asses and head right?
The left is crying "Fascist!" and pointing right–those on the right (cucks) cry "Not us, them!" and point further right. Meanwhile, who is pointing left? Who is naming the communists, and fighting the communists? If you want to fight the left, then get your backs against the right-hand wall of fascism and do it.
If you're a real, damned American, then it's time to learn what that means; I wholeheartedly recommend authors like Ezra Pound, an American fascist who joined Mussolini's government and wrote thoroughly on how Italian fascism would work in modern America (and it's more true today than even 70 years ago). "Jefferson and/or Mussolini" is an excellent place to start, as he explains why Fascism works towards Jeffersonian, conservative ideals such as the notion of the Government which governs less, governs best.
694527 No.9119336
>>9119143
Not sure how you "outkike the kikes" by helping them spread a meme that demonizes anybody who's nationalist and White. The fact that you know the origins and meaning of the word doesn't mean that anybody else using it plays right into your hands.
Don't give them an INCH of ground to step on.
cb1cb1 No.9119445
>>9119256
>/pol/ wasn't meant to be a kosher "political movement",
WTF are you on about? Are you saying crushing commies is kosher?
cb1cb1 No.9119507
>>9119277
Way to miss the point. The commies are using the term Antifa as a ruse. They need to get called out on it. As far as normalfags go, they still equate fascist with bad. We're not going change that in the near future. Normalfags know commies are bad. Antifa are nothing but edgy marxists. Pointing out they are nothing but communists will quicken their demise among the mainstream.
7b2861 No.9119531
>>9115710
>the holocaust happened
>>>/leftypol/
cb1cb1 No.9119538
>>9119507
In other words, fascism needs to be taken out of this entire argument as it can only have negative connotations in the way Antifa is framing it.
1.Step one-get commies called commies
2. Step two-now worry about re imaging fascism.
290592 No.9119630
Nobody will see "antifa" as "anti-fascist" in the same way that they don't see "nazi" as "national socialist"
They gave themselves a catchy nickname, and it works
There's no point trying to call them communists, it'll just make you look like a conspiracy theorist to the average person who doesn't know shit about what's going on, ultimately counter-productive
It's far easier to explain to normalfags that those violent retarded babies aren't really fighting actual fascism than it would be to explain that they're actually communists, save that shit for after they're on your side and can be sure you're not just someone's dementia-addled grandpa screeching about "the damn dirty commies"
f563d5 No.9119642
>>9116886
>I just arrived from Crowderville.
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
cd5274 No.9119645
000000 No.9119661
>>9119336
>helping them spread a meme
It's already spread to the point of completely saturating the normiesphere.
The idea is to repurpose it to demonize (((communists))) instead of fascists. Let's turn another golem built in the minds of normalfags by decades of jewish propaganda against its creators.
>Don't give them an INCH of ground to step on.
They already have nigh all the ground. Let's make it burn under their feet.
cb1cb1 No.9119692
>>9119645
Yeah. I haven't seen /leftypol/ this ass ravaged n a while. They know this will fuck them.
290592 No.9119708
>>9119645
Prove me wrong faggot
Tell me whenever some tumblrite unironically uses "PoC" in a sentence, that you don't read it as "pock" instead of "person of color"
cd5274 No.9119732
>>9119708
>prove my nigger logic wrong
You seem triggered by calling them commies. Is there a reason?
0ec488 No.9119748
Just a reminder that "antifa" shills on here almost always try and use some form of political ideology/race as a shield. "I know a commie that hates niggers. So based!" "Who cares if innocent people are getting attacked? They're probably libertarian cucks!"
290592 No.9119769
>>9119732
It's undeniable that they're anarcho-communists
But calling them communists instead of antifa is self-defeating in the public sphere, it'll just be seen as more people autistically screeching about their political opponents
72735c No.9119782
cd5274 No.9119794
>>9119769
>if name a commie it's autistic screeching
Kill yourself /leftypol/
e1246e No.9119811
>>9119769
If you name the commies, they win.
5e0613 No.9119851
>>9119769
Calling them communists and anarchists is not only true (and will be proven true if they ever issue demands etc.), it's the best long-term option. The aut-right are trying to do damage control and say "No THEY'RE the fascists!" This is just a liability, for whenever fascism does gain more steam and becomes mainstream. Not to mention it's literally autistic.
290592 No.9119854
>>9119794
It is never politically expedient to make normalfags think you're retarded
These people are making themselves look bad enough, you don't call them communists, you merely inform people that they are communists, ranting about filthy commies will just confuse things and make you look insane
cd5274 No.9119871
>>9119854
>/leftypol/ on damage control
Lel you commies are legitimately retarded.
e76c2c No.9119911
>>9115544
I hope you are trolling
5e0613 No.9119917
>>9119854
Right, you clearly never had any outspokenly conservative friends in school, because those people–the people we want–are GLAD to call out communists where they see them.
290592 No.9119956
>>9119917
I get that, but there's a big difference between taking the time to show someone evidence that, say, jews run hollywood, and your first conversation with them being about "the kikes that put propaganda in all your movies"
One of them could work and spread your message, the other will generally have the opposite effect on people that don't already know what you're talking about
Some people will immediately accept that they're communists, sure, but tons of others will just think you're lying about them and be pushed in the other direction
Fuck man, it's not like it takes very long to prove they're communists
e1246e No.9119959
>>9119854
>don't call them communists, just tell people they are communists
0ec488 No.9119970
>>9119956
Lol they carry fucking flags that have the fucking sickle and hammer on them for fucks sake. You are either retarded or a shill (or both).
d67715 No.9119986
290592 No.9120026
>>9119970
Do you think the average person is familiar with that?
I maintain that "antifa" is what they call themselves, and is not immediately associated with fascism in the minds of the average person, so that's the best thing to call them
Besides that, they're a specific group of anarcho-communists, so calling them by their name is the only way to go when talking about them specifically anyway, since there are tons of communists that aren't antifa
161daa No.9120044
They want to call themselves Antifa. Call them Antifa. Is just like the Islamic State. Don't call them Isis or whatever. Just call them what they call themselves. Anyways most people in the back of their minds who do not like antifa will plant a small idea. Oh, well if this is what anti fascists are like then maybe fascists aren't actually as bad as my highschool history books and Hollywood movies told me they were.
d67715 No.9120049
>>9119642
Whats a crowderville?
7f5a78 No.9120064
Lol you /pol/yps ==already== forgot that it was liberals playing buzzword bingo that put the right wing back in power.
Not that I'm complaining, keep desensitizing normies to being called communists the way they did with racists that'll end well for you ^_^
d67715 No.9120075
>>9120044
Dubdubs for your wisdom
cd5274 No.9120080
0ec488 No.9120081
>>9120026
>Do you think the average person is familiar with that?
Yes, I do, it's not some uncommon fucking knowledge. I could show any one of the people I know the hammer and sickle and they would know it meant communism. Funny that you act like we should call them what the average person is familiar with and then in the next sentence say we should call them antifa (the average american has no fucking clue what that is).
46900f No.9120092
>>9120064
Hang yourself from the neck until dead, my man.
290592 No.9120139
>>9120081
>I could show any one of the people I know the hammer and sickle and they would know it meant communism
No you retard, I mean do you think people know what goes down in black blocs
And yeah, few people really know what antifa is either, but that's easier to explain and get through to people than starting off with "the commies are marching in the streets", which will make most stop listening
cd5274 No.9120178
>>9120139
>hurr durr antifa isn't really well known
>b-b-but calling them commies will make you look crazy
/leftypol/ was a mistake
000000 No.9120245
>>9120064
>(1)
>redtext fail
lurk moar faggot
290592 No.9120271
>>9120178
The average joe associates communism with shit like china or the cold war, with things like the red scare that persecuted normal americans
It's not something they can just accept is happening here under their nose, it seems fucking ridiculous to people, to think that educated memberss of a western nation could fall for communism
On the other hand, antifa is something that has no prior connotations, something that you can just google and see is operating all over america, and then from there see that they're communists
cd5274 No.9120339
>>9120271
>then see from there that they're communists
>which will let them know how evil they are
I prefer to take out the "antifa" middle man. You're just trying to muddy the waters instead of actually naming the enemy.
290592 No.9120469
>>9120339
>Calling them exactly what they are instead of what ideology they espouse is muddying the waters
Being less specific is muddying the waters
It's like referring to islamic terrorism as just 'terrorism'
Sure, you could be talking about jihadi john blowing up a civic center, but for all anyone listening knows, you could also be referring to a group of disgruntled women's studies majors donning their halloween batman costumes and burning down a starbucks
0ec488 No.9120512
>>9120139
>No you retard, I mean do you think people know what goes down in black blocs
Nope, that's what easily findable pictures showing idiots branding commie imagery is for.
>And yeah, few people really know what antifa is either, but that's easier to explain and get through to people than starting off with "the commies are marching in the streets", which will make most stop listening
You are so stupid it hurts. The far easier tactic would be to show them pictures like the above, but no, let's do as you suggest and not use their branding of imagery that most americans would find distasteful against them, no let's adopt their carefully picked frame and call them antifa (these guys are anti-hitler!). Last I checked the average american isn't on board with fascism (there are still countless forms of popular entertainment being popped out that have people killing Nazis).
You are also such a goddamn shill it hurts too, so I'm done entertaining your disingenuousness. If any retard actually believes that calling people who brand communist imagery (there are countless pictures showing this) communists is the equivalent of some leftist nut calling a libertarian a Nazi, you need to get your head checked.
f65105 No.9120534
>>9115544
read animal farm, leftypol
cd5274 No.9120543
>>9120469
>implying commie isn't specific enough
>implying anti-anything is specific
All they say is they oppose fascism, and if that's specific enough for you then you're retarded. If you reveal the end game you reveal the true nature. Calling them communists agitators is specifically naming their end goal.
faf1dd No.9120547
>>9118899
Communism was created and exported to Russia by (German) jews
ba8d7e No.9120605
You're missing the fucking point. Everyone can see Antifa are trash, so it's an easy first link from Anti fascist=bad to fascist=might not be bad.
The endgame is National Socialism.
Don't fall for the the ridiculous idea we can go back to the 1950's in America and everything will be gee-whizz hunkydory again, that's a fucking cuckservative idea. We have to rise above, Hitler knew it, Rockwell knew it.
cd5274 No.9120649
ba8d7e No.9120682
>>9120649
>Implying /pol/ is anti-National Socialism
cd5274 No.9120734
>>9120682
>hurr durr you want to call them commies you must be a shill
29abfc No.9120751
>>9115544
Stalin was a faggot that murdered 60 million russians
29abfc No.9120780
>>9115710
Facism to you isnt a political system, its a buzzword
ba8d7e No.9120788
>>9120734
I'm not denying they're commie fucks, I'm saying the name Antifa plays into our hands. We don't just have to correctly point out that communism is a bad thing, we have to hammer home the point that National Socialism and Fascism ARE NOT 'le boogeymen of the 20th century', like what's currently in the public conscious.
cd5274 No.9120839
>>9120788 (waste)
>implying you aren't a shill
>implying you aren't pushing the same arguments that are btfo
>implying anyone besides trs is buying /leftypol/ shit
See entire thread.
9675b0 No.9121086
call them parastatals, like Golden Dawn calls the exact same people in Greece
c004fb No.9121133
>>9116851
>gommunism
>holding a knife that says democracy
really makes you think
397b1e No.9121189
>>9120271
>average joe associates communism with shit like china or the cold war
The average Joe associates King Nigger and his shitshow with communism. Where the fuck have you been for the last 8 years?
c004fb No.9121275
>>9121221
>3RD pic
>Jason as the mascot
interesting choice
05cf8e No.9121639
PLEASE GOD STOP REASONING AUTISTICALLY ABOUT THIS
Commie is fucking perfect:
It is simple. It is two syllables and it fits literally anywhere the word nazi does. American normies know they can hate commies just like they know they can hate nazis. It is baked into the memetic fabric of America. Captain America was literally the commie smasher.
You can literally spit about commies at the family dinner table the same way you can spit about nazis.
This is the meme. Commies. It's so good I think the left might have fucked up w/ the nazi line.
05cf8e No.9121668
The less it makes sense, the better.
fdc504 No.9121691
>>9121639
There are motherfucking laws against communism! If they are openly communists, those laws suddenly fuckjng apply! The law of the cold war was never revoked!
fdc504 No.9121720
>>9121691
>The Communist Control Act (68 Stat. 775, 50 U.S.C. 841-844) is a piece of United States federal legislation, signed into law by President Dwight Eisenhower on 24 August 1954, which outlaws the Communist Party of the United States and criminalizes membership in, or support for the Party or "Communist-action" organizations and defines evidence to be considered by a jury in determining participation in the activities, planning, actions, objectives, or purposes of such organizations.[1]
05cf8e No.9121881
>>9121691
Exactly. The less sense it makes, the better. They can sputter about distinctions between whatever fucking snowflake shade of leftism they identify with, good.
AMERICA SMASHED COMMIES ONCE, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN
This is hanging curveball tier shit. I was depressed seeing all the nazi-punching stuff in normie-space, but it all works for us too, and the left opened it up. They used american normie patriotism (that, of course, they don't believe in) effectively, really the first time I've seen them make a real run at our memes.
But they fucked up because they gave us this reframe:
"I'm against violence, but I support someone who punches a nazi"
"I'm against violence, but I support someone who punches a commie"
You don't even have to think, just sub and go.
fdc504 No.9121930
>>9121881
What? No, we do need to think. put affirmative statements to the requirements of the above law, as text for leftymemes, and they will incriminate themselves.
2d0f98 No.9122065
>>9115592
Remember that when it boils down to it, all we want is genocide.
05cf8e No.9122087
>>9121930
I mean in shouting matches and trolling: "You're a nazi" "You're a commie" "Punch a nazi" "Punch a commie" No one (yet) is going to get prosecuted for being a commie.
NOT YET, BUT WE CAN MEME IT
05cf8e No.9122125
>>9122023
See all this stuff? It's too complicated, nobody cares. Winston who?
People hate commies.
23ab7e No.9122143
>>9122023
As always, Churchill can't stop slobbering jewish cock.
721cb5 No.9122841
>>9118899
Triple dubs confirm you're retarded and need to be gassed asap. Go back to /kikeypol/ you leftist subhuman trash.
721cb5 No.9123475
>>9119630
Fuck off. Calling shitstains commies is a time honored American tradition than I am glad is making a glorious comeback
b87e7a No.9123476
>>9115493
Antifa are communists, but it sounds bad to sperg out and call everyone we don't like communists. It will sound sketchy to normalfags, just continue calling them Antifa, that way "anti-fascists" will get a bad reputation, which will be helpful in the future.
397b1e No.9123986
>>9123476
GTFO /leftpol/. No one is buying your shit.
97bb4a No.9124776
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>9123476
Fuck off, commie
Vid related
97bb4a No.9124818
"Commie" is woven in to the collective memetic fabric of america. Commie is perfect.
They are commies.
a894b3 No.9124868
>>9117786
>>9116557
Look it up using bible translation software that shows you the meaning of the hebrew version directly. Its actually worse, when a jew is using the word, it means racial kinsman.. but when filthy goyim use it, its translated to neighbor. Only jews are commanded to love their racial kinsmen, filthy goyim must commit racial suicide and are like animals for slaughtering, and performing medical experiments on etc.
4a130c No.9125058
>>9118899
>implying Marx and his shabbos goy Engels were Russian
mfw these leftist sodomites can't even into basic political history
8bcfa4 No.9125091
>>9115544
Stalin and Churchill were both kikes. I want /lefty/fags to leave.
397b1e No.9128638
Bump for all the slide bullshit up top
d38360 No.9129528
>>9115493
>>9116191
>>9116396
>>9116585
>>9116845
>>9117208
>>9117251
>>9117556
>>9119277
>>9120026
>>9120044
>>9120605
All of THESE.
If you're going to call them a scare word, at least call them LEFTISTS of some sort. We actually have been turning "leftist" into a slur, and we should keep it up. And if you want to be more specific, then at least use persistently shocking words associated with the left that are far more appropriate than "fascists" such as:
- ==MARXISTS==
- ==COMMUNISTS==
- ==BOLSHEVIKS==
- ==COMMISSARS==
- ==ANARCHISTS==
- ==LEFT-WING TERRORISTS==
You'd be amazed at how these words trip up normies and scare regular people, especially when these words are associated with such potent images of violent left-wing extremism as seen in the recent protests at UC Berkeley and previous events. ANTIFA should be associated with crazed liberals and feminist queers at the VERY least.
The last thing you want to do is call them "fascists." It may be ironic, but it makes no sense and doesn't help us. It misleads the normie into territories of sympathizing with basic bitch liberalism, centrism, the status quo, etc. And it's just not appropriate. Associate ANTIFA with the actual scare-word ideologies that they openly espouse. That makes a ton of more sense, and it's more convincing because it's easy to catch ANTIFA goons explicitly admitting to these ideologies.
Also, just call them "anti-fascist liberals" if nothing else. It sometimes makes fascists look compelling in comparison.
Ultimately, we should want ANTIFA to be associated with liberals and the entire left wing. So don't label them with common epithets used against the right wing such as "fascist." It's counterproductive and only reinforces the normie liberal horseshoe narrative.
Stigmatize every left-liberal element of ANTIFA thuggery and degeneracy.
d42aa0 No.9130026
>>9115493
call them antifa terrorists, that might help normie minds