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Milo Yiannopoulos event at Berkeley canceled after protests (cnn.it)
barcelonaKIZ が 11時間前 投稿
[–]dagst3r 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 10時間前 (115子コメント)
A message Yiannopoulos posted on Facebook
I have been evacuated from the UC Berkeley campus after violent left-wing protestors tore down barricades, lit fires, threw rocks and Roman candles at the windows and breached the ground floor of the building. My team and I are safe. But the event has been cancelled. I'll let you know more when the facts become clear. One thing we do know for sure: the Left is absolutely terrified of free speech and will do literally anything to shut it down.
The man knows exactly what he is doing. These kinds of headlines is what he wants because it adds fuel to his cause. And, of course, his supporters on Reddit eat it up. Hilarious.
[+]ViktorV スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 9時間前 (10子コメント)
His cause is money.
He's a younger, more savvy Bill O'Reilly. Dude knows he is shading things in the view point to elicit the precise amount of response and is VERY careful to never present anything without a heavy amount of fact to back it up.
But it's all to push an agenda to enrich himself.
[+]AllTheMegahertz スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 9時間前 (29子コメント)
Obviously, as stated by others, this is not a peaceful protest, but a riot meant to cause harm. However, people must understand that this isn't what the left is trying to do. I hate when people use events like this to say "Oh lol, look at those tolerant liberals", that isn't what liberalism is about. The people who did this were probably a mix of anarchists who just seized the opportunity to loot and cause mayhem, and actual extremists. It is exceedingly important to not lump all liberals in with these people, just as it is important to not lump in all Muslims with Islamic terrorism, or all conservatives in with people who shoot up mosques or any other group with any other. The world is nuanced, and someone doing something bad doesn't mean that their group is bad.
[–]nate_paper 54 ポイント55 ポイント56 ポイント 9時間前 (13子コメント)
No - I'm pretty sure these people are liberals. Sorry your ideology sucks?
[–]TheRedPython 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Nah, to those guys liberals are indistinguishable from conservatives. These are anarchists, they are about as close to the liberals as neo-nazi skinheads are to neocons.
[+]Barry_Scotts_Cat スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Anarchists hate liberals, do to their passiveness on fucking everything
[+]DragonDai スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
The ones doing the rioting and the violence? Not liberals. Progressive is the word your looking for. Liberals are left-libertarian, progressives are left-authoritarian. Just like not all right wingers identify with the Libertarian party, neither do all left wingers conform to the ideal state of liberalism.
Here's a handy dandy guide to figuring out if someone is a liberal or a progressive: Are they fighting FOR or AGAINT Free Speech? For = Liberal, Against = Progressive.
[+]springbottom スコアが基準値未満のコメント-56 ポイント-55 ポイント-54 ポイント 11時間前 (61子コメント)
Please don't judge the Berkeley student community; none of us wanted this to happen.
[–]Thunderdome6 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 10時間前 (18子コメント)
To late, I'll never hire some one from your college because of this specific event, right here, this, because y'all couldn't keep your shit together.
[–]nevercatdogaruff -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I didn't know they let the fry cooks at McDonald's perform the hiring process. TIL.
[–]StopherHOSS -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't think educated workers want to work in a junk yard.
[–]mostlyjustlurking 22 ポイント23 ポイント24 ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
Did notice one guy was knocked out and students made a ring around him to protect him and one girl was providing medical services? Are they unhirable too?
[+]jakefromstatefarm10 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
Probably Trump supporters.
[–]mostlyjustlurking -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
As far as we know they could be. I'm sure t_d will bury you like they did me when I said during the Canadian attack it was a 27 year old from Canada and not a refugee. They st brigrading pretty hard because the altright sub got banned
[–]Lpg986 27 ポイント28 ポイント29 ポイント 9時間前 (4子コメント)
Why were you all surrounding it and supporting ithe? Why didn't you all shit it down? Where is your community police?
[+]Dr_Marxist スコアが基準値未満のコメント-35 ポイント-34 ポイント-33 ポイント 6時間前* (18子コメント)
ITT: Nazi apologists.
Apparently the Alt-Right subreddit are butthurt about their Nazi sub being banned and now want to skew the discourse in their favour.
Edit: Oh look, the Hitler Youth showed up.
[+]Dishonoreduser スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
I'll be downvoted with you! This thread attracted the worst of reddit by far
[+]pretty_sunflower スコアが基準値未満のコメント-31 ポイント-30 ポイント-29 ポイント 9時間前 (4子コメント)
Can the Air Force just bomb UC Berkeley or something?
Nothing of value would be lost...
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[–]ewrdctfvgh 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
Alright, we all agree that the University of California - Berkeley needs to be severely punished for allowing these riots. Here's how we do it:
In the US, universities get a great deal of money from federally-backed student loans. These loans are administered through a program by the Department of Education.
The Department of Education is an executive-branch department, meaning that it is under the control of the president.
The department has broad authority to administer the student loan program under the Higher Education Act of 1965.
We need to get Trump to sign an EXECUTIVE ORDER which states that Berkeley is SUSPENDED from receiving federally-backed student loans due to CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS under "Title IX," a powerful law in American education with several parts.
In this case, Berkeley's denial of 1st Amendment free speech rights through its refusal to stop violence suppressing free speech creates the legal ground for Trump to cut off Berkeley from federal student loan money.
This move would CRIPPLE Berkeley's operations and force the state of California itself to fill the budget gap, at great expense.
We need to petition/meme this into reality. And I don't think it will be that difficult. Legally, it is quite simple. It just needs political will.
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[–]gyrgyr 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Jesus christ, fuck this thread
[–]AManTiredandWeary -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't know what presence the anarchists have on reddit, and I just heard about what happened to the altright subreddit. So I suspect this is destined to become a thread battleground where they try to convince the rest of us who just to live life in peace that sides must be drawn in their glorious fucking war made up in their heads. It's insanity.
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[–]LX_Theo -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
Anarchists are not "left"
[–]InSOmnlaC -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
A gun vs a mob is a bad idea.
[–]ewrdctfvgh 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
Milo is a nazi
[+]DudeAnt スコアが基準値未満のコメント-73 ポイント-72 ポイント-71 ポイント 9時間前 (8子コメント)
Good. Stop wasting Student Activity Fees hiring this fuck. He can have his free speech all he wants, but no one should be paying to allow him to grace us with his presence.
[–]happyphilter 158 ポイント159 ポイント160 ポイント 10時間前 (89子コメント)
Liberals are facists. Literally what the brownshirts did.
[+]amorphousmetamorphos スコアが基準値未満のコメント-29 ポイント-28 ポイント-27 ポイント 8時間前 (35子コメント)
When Obama got reelected they hung him in effigy in 3 states. Property destruction in 4. Nowadays? Lots of racial violence towards Muslims especially. Extremism doesn't have a political bent, its aimless hatred.
The left isn't terrified. They're pissed off and this violence is only going to increase. Trump wants to flout the law? Turnabout is fair play.
[–]PeterJReveen 63 ポイント64 ポイント65 ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
I bet you're one of those little bitches running around in black covering your face......tough in a crowd and on the internet
[+]amorphousmetamorphos スコアが基準値未満のコメント-32 ポイント-31 ポイント-30 ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)
just like the Klan, eh?
[+]AcneBalls スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 9時間前 (14子コメント)
Way to generalize. Haha.
[–]happyphilter 49 ポイント50 ポイント51 ポイント 9時間前 (12子コメント)
Look at your facebook, your twitter, the news. The left has normalized hate against anyone who thinks different.
[+]ViridianCovenant スコアが基準値未満のコメント-28 ポイント-27 ポイント-26 ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
"The left" isn't normalizing hate against anyone who thinks differently, they are normalizing violence against people who want to murder or evict minorities and gays. If you don't want to do those things and don't give such people a platform to enact their desires, even if you're still a gross conservative, then congrats, you have nothing to worry about. If you can't see the dangerous shit coming out of the woodworks from the right then you are misaiming your criticism of dangerous shit on the left.
[–]Agent_545 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8時間前 (5子コメント)
Leftists. These are not liberals.
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[–]GetOutOfBox 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
Me too buddy. Me too.
[–]tenthlife 44 ポイント45 ポイント46 ポイント 8時間前 (17子コメント)
/u/YourFriendlyMerchant is a plant, by the way. He's lying saying he was a "liberal Jew" but the past couple months have turned him conservative. Because Trumpies will just make shit up if it sounds good.
Fucking embarrassing.
[–]YourFriendlyMerchant 38 ポイント39 ポイント40 ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
Listen to yourself, asshole. youre the embarrassment. You have no self awareness. There has been nothing but the sky is falling news, conspiracies, hyperventilating pundits, bullshit pointless protests with idiots dressed as vaginas and Facebook rants.
Which part are you denying that I am? A Jew? Would you like to know where I had my bar Mitzvah? It was at the Crest hallow country club on long Island. Would you like to see pictures of my bris? Do you want me to recite the son's questions from pesach seder?
Do you want me to tell you what Brian Lehrer was talking about last week on NPR? Would you like me to talk about Gore Vidal?
You are the epitome of what I hate about the left. Im either a heretic or a plant for calling this bullshit what it is, bullshit. Pathetic.
[–]meherab 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 8時間前 (6子コメント)
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5qxyze/shots_fired_in_quebec_city_mosque/dd340wo/
You giving credence to the idea that the Quebec shooter was Muslim
Sounds like you hate Muslims buddy! Sticking to that old Abrahamic rivalry niiiiiiiice. Nowadays tho, it's less about fitting in, and more about not being an intolerant fuck who promotes hate speech
[–]AnaOverwatchZarya 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
I voted for obama twice, I voted for trump this election. The same thing that they are doing to you led me to that decision
[–]TheDay-manFighteth 30 ポイント31 ポイント32 ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
Fucking preach. I was a Bernie fan, I voted Hillary and straight democrat ticket....I'm so sick of seeing this shit. I'm fucking sick of seeing edgy teenage liberal "antifacists" beat the shit out of people. I'm fucking sick of r/all being flooded with anti-trump stories that turn out to fake.
[–]thunder0811 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
stay safe friend, keep reading and learning to find out what you feel is right. As my father says, the current democratic party is no longer the party of my father.
[–]RetiredMillennial 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
I 100% agree with you and I feel this post will be shadowbanned very soon. It's too raw and exactly how many people feel right now and it scares the crap out of the left.
[–]Izawwlgood 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 9時間前 (3子コメント)
I'd love to hear this rhetoric applied to school shooters or the rise of the alt right. Do conservatives and most Republicans get to say 'breitbart and the alt right aren't me!'
Yeah? These rioters aren't 'the left'
[–]Shaella_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
But they are the public popular face of the left
https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/827013945697329152
[–]HAVEUSEENMYBASEBALLS 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
As a registered Democrat I couldn't have put it better. The only violence and hate I've seen so far is from the left.
[–]pooeypookie 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 8時間前 (7子コメント)
You didn't hear about anything happening in Quebec?
[–]nutbread 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
ANTIFA is a tiny minority of thugs. I'm a very liberal person, but the FBI needs to get balls deep in them, unmask their organisation and haul them off to prison.
[+]ThisOldHatte スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
if you're that spineless, you won't be missed.
[–]PPvsFC_ 216 ポイント217 ポイント218 ポイント 9時間前 (14子コメント)
You're all over this comment section masquerading as a newly right-turned former Democrat, but your comment history is full of antipathy towards black people in Chicago, NPR, etc. Shit's pretty pathetic.
[–]oldmancabbage 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Haha you can taste the deeply ingrained bitterness in every line. So transparent.
[–]Kingbuji 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
There are tons of people like this all over. They are really mad cause there favorite sub just got banned.
[–]mimefortheblind 87 ポイント88 ポイント89 ポイント 10時間前 (28子コメント)
The reason why liberals don't know anyone who disagrees with them is that normal people see stuff like this and we mollify placate all of the liberals in our lives to keep the useless malcontents from vandalizing our cars or worse.
If liberals keep this kind of garbage up, they may find that a whole lot of people are going to stop going along to get along.
When you see things like this, the reasonable response to liberals is fear for one's personal safety.
[–]Ironmunger2 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 10時間前 (22子コメント)
That doesn't generalize liberals at all
[–]MisterMoosers 37 ポイント38 ポイント39 ポイント 7時間前 (16子コメント)
unfortunately this hasn't been a small group of extremists, this has been a huge movement of liberals showing their true colours.
[–]radioactiveflesh 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 7時間前 (13子コメント)
No it doesn't. 3-5 million people peacefully participated in the women's marches.
[–]TheHunterOfHunters 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 5時間前 (4子コメント)
No it doesn't. 3-5 million man-haters peacefully participated in the women's marches.
FTFY
[–]radioactiveflesh 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Man haters? I can't tell if this is sarcasm.
[–]WrathfulClarity 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Really though, as common as it is, we should not call these people liberals. They are leftists. Liberalism on some level involve the right of free speech, even when it is controversial. When people use violence and intimidation to prevent free speech, they are not representing liberal values anymore than you can call someone who destroys the environment or participates in the degeneration of culture/tradition a conservative. They're just leftists, and extreme ones at that.
[–]Goroman86 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Wut. There were protests against Mipshit speaking at many universities for the last few years. And if the worst you can come up with is cars being vandalized, you're not going to make it far with people who don't think Obama is a Muslim Kenyan.
[+]NewGenerationSlave スコアが基準値未満のコメント-60 ポイント-59 ポイント-58 ポイント 8時間前 (16子コメント)
The "altright" lose their safe space so they try pushing this to the top. You fuckers aren't getting it back.
[–]Dishonoreduser -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
All the salty replies to your comment. They're bigly mad
[+]ThisIsAnAlt001 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-55 ポイント-54 ポイント-53 ポイント 7時間前* (18子コメント)
Garbage thread full of garbage people. Go fuck yourselves and your free speech concern trolling
Just because you want to coddle nazis doesn't mean real life decent human beings aren't scared to take the fight to them.
[–]ItsNevereveN 24 ポイント25 ポイント26 ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)
Censoring anything about the right and they are also extremely violent, how evil can liberals be.
[+]Barry_Scotts_Cat スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17 ポイント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント 5時間前 (7子コメント)
"GAS THE KIKES!" == Freeze Peach
"SMASH TE FASH" = EHRMERGDED YOU'RE THE REAL NAZIS
[+]FoolishFellow スコアが基準値未満のコメント-50 ポイント-49 ポイント-48 ポイント 7時間前* (58子コメント)
Milo espouses hate speech and he's been given way too much free press just like Trump, and Richard Spencer. I think Berkley students were right to be outraged. It's just sad and unfortunate that the anarchists co-opted the otherwise peaceful protest.
Edit: watch as I'm downvoted by those unable to discuss this with me in complete sentences instead of button pressing.
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[+]bigboi1da スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18 ポイント-17 ポイント-16 ポイント 7時間前 (6子コメント)
Milo hates gay rights, he is no hero to LGBT. He's a terrible person. Read below.
While Yiannopoulos is gay, he has stated that gay rights are detrimental to humanity, and that gay men should "get back in the closet".[98] He has described being gay as "aberrant" and "a lifestyle choice guaranteed to bring [gay people] pain and unhappiness".[99] He has said that he would love to experiment with conversion therapy, but not because he thinks it'll work."[100]
Do not assume there were no violent infiltrators in the crowd either. We don't know.
[–]Foot51 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 11時間前 (4子コメント)
Fighting freedom of speech with freedom of speech and a little extra violence
[–]throwitawaywayeay 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Liberalism is fascism
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[–]Foehammer87 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
like dylan roof and that new asshat in canada?
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[–]Foehammer87 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
So there arent white supremacist trump supporters arguing for violence?
[–]Banvel 31 ポイント32 ポイント33 ポイント 9時間前 (10子コメント)
These leftist nazis are DOMESTIC TERRORISTS. Can't let him speak because he's gay? Or because you don't agree with what he says? Very tolerant.
[+]penea2 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 6時間前 (18子コメント)
While im not condoning the actions today...
What the flying fuck is Milo doing in Cali, especially in Berkley giving a talk? He's just asking for it at that point
[–]ATGod 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
This is what the Democratic Party has become. Violent and anti-free speech.
Oh but trump is LITERALLY hitler /s
[–]nate_paper 70 ポイント71 ポイント72 ポイント 10時間前 (44子コメント)
Why won't the liberals let him speak? Is it because he's gay?
[+]paid__shill スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
They don't want him to speak because he's a bit of a piece of shit, to be honest. He makes his living by baiting people by writing deliberately offensive but ultimately meaningless crap on the one hand, and fear-mongering to further a right-wing agenda on the other.
The problem isn't that people don't want him to speak, it's that that feeling isn't overridden by their respect for free speech. So much for "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Jeez.
[–]vodkaandponies 24 ポイント25 ポイント26 ポイント 9時間前 (34子コメント)
He ousted a trans student at his last campus speech. Like, put up pictures of her pre and post op, then mocked her to her face for 10 minutes.
She ended up having to quit university over the harassment he inspired.
That's why most can't stand him.
[+]nate_paper スコアが基準値未満のコメント-23 ポイント-22 ポイント-21 ポイント 9時間前 (28子コメント)
So you don't like him because he's gay?
[–]phyloh -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm fine with him speaking. He has nothing of value to offer though, he's just a drama troll.
[–]TrixieMisa 17 ポイント18 ポイント19 ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
Gay Jewish immigrant.
(Jewish by birth, think he was raised Catholic.)
[–]red_dinner 589 ポイント590 ポイント591 ポイント 11時間前 (162子コメント)
The modern Democratic party is a failure.
[–]Jared_FogIe 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 11時間前 (8子コメント)
Democrats are done
[–]seamonkeydoo2 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 11時間前 (2子コメント)
What's that got to do with anything?
[–]USofAwesome 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Milo quote.
[+]devotedpupa スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Hahahaha you think Dems have the spine to do that? That's cute.
[–]bullsfan84 194 ポイント195 ポイント196 ポイント 11時間前 (89子コメント)
Pretty much this. I identified as a Democrat for most of my life, I didn't vote for anyone in this last election. The Democratic Party is turning into what it rails against. It's a total clusterfuck.
[+]Khiva スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 10時間前 (37子コメント)
I would strongly doubt that these protestors self identify as Democrats.
[–]USofAwesome 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Samesies, except I'm a life long republican
[–]Dixichick13 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 10時間前 (9子コメント)
Why do you think they are suddenly so keen to align themselves with Islam? The women's March had a pro Shariah law leader for crying out loud.
[–]Isord 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
None of these folks would consider themselves Democrat so not sure what you mean.
[–]TriStag 45 ポイント46 ポイント47 ポイント 9時間前 (20子コメント)
lmao, you and me both. Didn't like the whole neo-con stuff.
Then this cancer came out of the left and I dipped.
Sway back and forth now but fuck the democrats at this point. Hope the party crashes and burns and makes way for something not so radical/corrupt.
[–]XBebop -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 8時間前 (11子コメント)
The Democratic Party, radical? Really? Are you being paid to say that? They're radical, perhaps, if the alternative is returning to monarchy.
[–]TriStag 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 8時間前 (5子コメント)
Half radical, half corrupt it seems.
Whatever is out there rioting certainly isn't pro-Trump... I would wager the majority of them are democrats.
[–]XBebop 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
Uh, the rioters are from Antifa, which means they're anarchists. They hate liberals just as much as conservatives (it's a century-old feud going back to the Spanish Civil War).
I doubt many of the rioters are Democrats. They don't have the balls.
[+]AliciaTheLurker スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 7時間前* (7子コメント)
I didn't vote for anyone in this last election
That means you voted for trump, dude. Every time I hear someone say they didn't vote for either candidates because both were awful, or say they went third party even though they've always voted democrat, it pisses me off. The candidates were not at all equal. One was definitely worse than the other. And by choosing not to put a vote against him, you let him win.
I don't support riots, but you shouldn't even call yourself an American if you let a disgustingly racist, sexist fascist become president after he promised to destroy the lives of countless American minorities and innocent suffering people across the globe. His presidency will have a very real devastating effect on many American families and deny many non-Americans a chance for a better life. But, hey, that doesn't affect your own life so why should you care? At least you didn't vote for the lady that mishandled emails!
[–]ThaBearJew -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
More alt facts from the alt reich, you do realize people can see your post history, this comment belongs on /r/quityourbullshit
[–]AnalogDan 49 ポイント50 ポイント51 ポイント 10時間前 (13子コメント)
anarchists/socialists ≠ democrats/liberals
lol... they fucking hate liberals (especially neoliberals).
[+]red_dinner スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 10時間前 (10子コメント)
Yeah clearly these douches might, sometimes, vote Republican. Why were there so many anti-trump signs?
[+]grimpala スコアが基準値未満のコメント-28 ポイント-27 ポイント-26 ポイント 9時間前 (6子コメント)
I'm supportive of anti-Trump protests and of putting up a huge fight and making it visible that we won't stand for fascism.
But UC Berkeley is one of the WORST places to make that visible. It's primarily liberal. The people getting hurt are gonna be Trump supporters. It's SO EASY for Trump and Republicans to point to this as "violent liberals impinging on our freedoms".
[–]30105090103 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
UC Berkeley is also the most predictable place to make this visible. Something to think about with the current direction of American liberalism.
[–]roboconcept -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 9時間前 (7子コメント)
What's that MLK quote about riots and the unheard?
This is what's going to happen when traditional protests don't do anything anymore.
[–]Tod_Almighty 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2時間前 (7子コメント)
As someone that doesn't like Trump I don't like these assholes either. The left is turning out to be just as bad as the right.
[+]Watch_Mee スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 8時間前 (5子コメント)
Yiannopoulos is a bomb thrower. That's how he makes his money. It seems that both sides of the extreme right and left are baiting each other so when one side lashes out the other can suddenly claim moral superiority. Which is exactly what this troll has done. It reinforces his incoherent narrative.
These events are despicable, but there probably plenty of blame to go around on both sides. The organizers of this event can hardly say they didn't know it would stoke tensions. And that was probably the point.
[–]Mayonnaise7 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 8時間前 (10子コメント)
Would just like to point out that these violent acts dont represent mainstream views at all, and that goes for violence on both sides of the political spectrum.
Just like your average Conservative would not attack a mosque, your average Liberal would not beat people up and riot
Horrible stuff going on nowadays
[+]showeringwithbeer スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 4時間前 (20子コメント)
This will get lost in comment oblivion, but you ever wonder why these kids resort to lashing out with unjustified violence at all these protests?
Older generations have mortgaged their future to ensure those in the present get what they need, so these kids are well aware they will probably have no social security or MediCare when they get older.
They just spent 8 years with a pretty progressive administration, making slow but measurable progress for the LGBT community, racial minorities, etc. Now in 11 days all that seems to be coming undone, and on top of that is the immigration ban, the "alternative facts", etc.
It's nice to say get involved at the local level, write your congressman, but let's be real; these are young kids, and no one is running for office at 20 with no qualifications, and no senator is rushing down to support a protest because of a letter.
The only recourse these kids see is destruction. You ever read that short story "The Destructors"? The idea is when left with no way to change your circumstances, turning to destruction is the only way of obtaining progress. That was the author's idea anyways and I thinknit describes the kids in these protests.
Their vote doesn't count in many states for President, they are watching, in their opinion, just about the worst candidate being appointed to every job, and realizing that there is no strong check/balance on the President. He controls Congress, and has enough Supreme Court openings to turn the Court his way too. They see bad going to worse, then going to shit. Notice how even in different cities the same businesses keep getting attacked (i.e. Starbucks)? They are picking overt representations of a system they think doesn't work, although they should realize the irony of attacking a giant corporation most of them probably buy their coffee from daily.
Not saying this justifies beating defenseless people or destroying property, but if you talk to kids in thos age group it sounds like Nixon, only worse. They feel they have no power, and that the government and economy sees no worth in them because it is more important to preserve the present than protect the future.
[–]bug_212 28 ポイント29 ポイント30 ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
liberals are all about free speech and let people protest, and then they use their mob to muscle others and silence other peoples voice
but its okay because people like milo are "immoral"
[–]Ruhrohdeedo -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
The right loves the narrative of a violent protest so much they pay for it to happen
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.mic.com/articles/amp/165224/donald-trump-pay-james-okeefe-inauguration-day-protests-violence-mayhem?client=safari
[+]Gabe_Isko スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 8時間前 (5子コメント)
Well this is the endgame Milo wanted. And now he plays the blame game. What a baby.
[+]llamaspirit スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 7時間前 (9子コメント)
Anyone else think its strange that masked "protestors" who destroy property and instigate violence are usually left to do so for long periods of time with almost no hostile police engagement. Almost as if the police were allowing them to do so. Almost like this was staged or planned. Almost like the right was paying masked "protestors" to do it so that they can discredit the left and collect harmful media. If I was a dictator with a Nazi following, that is exactly what I would have my Blackwater ... er i mean my people do.
[+]randomtask スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 6時間前* (17子コメント)
ITT: Alt right apologists trying to convince you that these anarchist rioters need to be "dealt with" (EDIT: by taking away your freedom). What they aren't telling you is that "dealing" with these rioters means enabling a fascist political ideology that crushes all dissent, violent or nonviolent, it doesn't care. That means that by supporting the views predominantly expressed in this thread, you are ideologically ceding your own rights to peaceful, legal freedom of expression. It's sickening that these fascist viewpoints are so prevalent. It's self harm to join their side. Don't do it to yourself.
[–]AManTiredandWeary 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 6時間前 (4子コメント)
furiously hits upvote It's legitimately frightening to see so many people so quick to fall into the "law and order" trap. For the worst I think it's that same old glory of war mindset that humanity can never shake. People want to see the glorious conquering of their ideology of choice without seeing the horrific consequences. It's like mutually assured destruction, nobody wins.
[–]senatorknope -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
This comment thread is terrifying. Read through some of your comments, thanks for for your insight and sanity.
[+]SoccerAndPolitics スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Comment thread: "these are horrible riots not protests!!!!!!! Fuck everyone who dislikes milo!!!"
Facts: 6injured. Violence done by group of anarchists who infiltrated for the sake of violence
[–]_arkar_ -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
Ah, the rioting is now going to take over the news cycle, and make the few who still remember forget about the six murders of the Le Pen fan. So stupid.
[+]Utming スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1時間前 (4子コメント)
This guy seems like a dick who should be punched in the face, but widespread rioting and extreme violence? Uhm... no..
[+]dmadSTL スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 8時間前* (0子コメント)
People should be able to listen to dissenting opinions, consider them, and formulate an opinion.
That being said, I have a hard time giving an asshat like Milo that respect because he consistently spews hatred towards women. He actually wrote an article that argued for placing a cap on women in STEM fields, in which he blatantly misquoted studies and took research totally out of context. I will not be surprised when I hear about him committing some violent crime against a woman in the future.
Frankly, while I conform to my first point, I do not extend this to the likes of him. He has no legitimate backing to his opinions. So, fuck him. I stand with women.
Edit to add side note: for Christ sake just look at the thumbnail picture of him on this article, and tell me you don't want to bludgeon this clown with the closest blunt object you can reach.
Edit 2: that being said violence is bad m'kay
[–]boobodst -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 5時間前 (4子コメント)
Love how people don't understand that the president and the alt-right that boosted him to power have pitted theirselves against multiple groups not just one. In the most general sense they have not just put themselves on the right wing side of the policy equation but also on the authoritarian side. The opposition to the right is certainly to the left. But the opposition to authoritarianism is anarchy. So seeing people conflate this with progressive or democratic ideology is off-base when these violent people have only ever said that they are anarchists. It's scapegoating one of your enemies by using a radical other enemy as impetus. I mean they must all be the same if they're opposing me, right? No, you dumb asses. These could very well be regressive or right-wing anarchists. They haven't hinted at anything else. All they do is destroy the businesses of the oligarchs and spray paint parkinon's looking As on everything. Furthermore, there's no evidence that these aren't provocateurs. There's already precedent for that. Mind you I am speculating on the last bit. Because it's about as useful as speculating to the motives or intentions behind any one of these events without evidence. It's exactly that sort of irrational, inconclusive thought process that got us into this situation in the first place.
[–]StopBeingProblematic 93 ポイント94 ポイント95 ポイント 10時間前 (14子コメント)
The title should read "Progressives try to kill Republicans, Conservatives and a fabulously handsome gay man."
[–]ImTheCapm 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 7時間前 (6子コメント)
This aren't progressives. They're anarchists. Stop with the false equivalencies.
[–]GGrillmaster 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
Progressive never stop shifting the blame
[–]politicusmaximus 18 ポイント19 ポイント20 ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
Milo is fabulous as shit.
[–]assination 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Was there in the thick of it from beginning to end as a looky loo. The anarchists came prepared to start shit with black helmets, bandannas soaked in milk, fireworks and shields for the rubber bullets. A generator was turned into a bonfire, fireworks shot at police and the barricades stormed. When they moved down telegraph, I saw those same anarchists smashing BofA ATM's and windows. A car was surrounded and the driver gunned it to escape, hitting a person. The property damage afterwards was far less than I expected and the protesters showed some restraint. All I could see was graffiti on buildings, smashed ATMs, a torched generator and smashed windows in the student center leaving most businesses untouched.
While I'm sure some students were involved in the violence and many others approving of it, the general sense I had was the student population was watching on the sidelines and fringes. The strangest thing was students going about their normal business with a riot as a backdrop.
I fully condemn the anarchists and their nihilistic violence. And I applaud the restraint of the police in a situation which could've turned much uglier. The only winner of this was anyone trying to push the 'lawless left' narrative. It's a shame that Berkeley doesn't have more control over who enters campus.
[–]Awildbadusername -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
So a peaceful protest is planned and then 150 black clad provocateurs show up and start setting fires. But yet people here seem to believe that those 150 people somehow represented the entire movement against milo
[–]PeterJReveen 39 ポイント40 ポイント41 ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)
it isn't safe to openly support Trump in the bay area......tolerant, peace-loving liberals
[+]foster_remington スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
And it isn't safe to be a green card holding permanent legal resident either.
Seems fair to me.
[–]SAcholo 90 ポイント91 ポイント92 ポイント 11時間前 (66子コメント)
Protesters exercising their right to freedom of speech so they can take his away. Why are they so scared of words?
[–]Batmaso 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 10時間前 (3子コメント)
If words are powerless they couldn't use words to take his away. If words have power over people do you really need an explanation for why someone might be afraid of someone who is far right wing?
[+]page_one スコアが基準値未満のコメント-42 ポイント-41 ポイント-40 ポイント 10時間前 (39子コメント)
The right to freedom of speech does not protect you from consequences of said speech and does not protect you from non-government entities. You do not have any legal privilege which guarantees you speaking events at universities.
But that doesn't fit your narrative, so I'm fake news.
[+]Foot51 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Big wads scur me.
[–]Showsto 244 ポイント245 ポイント246 ポイント 10時間前 (78子コメント)
I'm curious. Does the left in this country no longer believe in free speech?
[–]Animal31 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
Why should people tolerate hate? I dont care if you have the legal right to say something, it doesnt mean im going to love and trust you
[–]vodkaandponies -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
The President doesn't seem to.
[–]contemptious 199 ポイント200 ポイント201 ポイント 9時間前 (19子コメント)
Nope. Just intimidation, face punches and pepper spraying anyone they say is a Nazi, which conveniently enough is anyone who disagrees with them
Thumping wrongthinking heads and disrupting the events of their political enemies was one of the chief functions of the brownshirts and blackshirts of the 20th century: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
These violent thugs are the brownshirts and blackshirts of the modern era
[–]el_Di4blo 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Coward punches*
[–]inhuman44 24 ポイント25 ポイント26 ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
No. This is what "safe spaces" were about, not letting opposing view points in. Then demanding that all public spaces become "safe spaces" to censor your opponents. Of course they don't called it censorship, it's just "no platforming".
[–]iBangTurtles 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
Sounds like a certain sub I know...
[+]sam__izdat スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 7時間前 (14子コメント)
so many the_donald posters in here renouncing their leftist affiliations lol
[–]WoGeddy 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2時間前* (3子コメント)
You wouldn't think that the party of love, tolerance and acceptance just needs something to hate, but it sure seems like they do.
EDIT: WOW - instant downvotes. Guess the party of love and tolerance hates me too.
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[+]thommyhobbes スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
Hey I know everybody is fired up from the shock of this event, but people should be aware that this thread is filled with alt-right neonazi types. Think very carefully about who is speaking and what they are saying before agreeing with them.
[–]Wucku 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
the left goes crazy,,,, 3,2,1,,,,
[–]someguyuno 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
All of this violence just made me go to YouTube and Breitbart to listen to what Yianno had to say. So your protest is in actuality backfiring. This is another example of the anarchy that led me to vote for Trump.
[+]AdventureBum スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
ITT: people confusing free speech with a right to be heard.
[–]Acrimony01 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
I'm glad I didn't go to UC Berkeley. It's turning into the liberty university of the left.
[–]RWC88 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
This is what happens when you decide to ignore the constitution. So don't expect others to be lawful and follow the rules when you move the goal posts.
[+]Jakethesnake98 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 2時間前 (7子コメント)
"A riot is the language of the unheard" - MLK
No one cares to ask why these people riot. It's just "muh freeze peach" and "muh property rights"
"You cannot force a group of people to live under a system in which their value is equated to property ownership and not understand how breaking a window is not a form of protest"
[–]45north_ -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
Rioting is dumb but I'm not sure how associating masked outside agitators (antifa) to "the entire left" makes any sense. That type of broad brush just leaves you open to the same attacks directed at you when the next right wing terorrist attack and we can just keep playing this back and forth game all year.
Oh and for everyone saying "no this is what fascism looks like" you know you can just call them anarchists...that is what they more closely align to though I see where you may be confused given the violence.
[–]Roronoa_Zaraki 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Hmm, apparently free speech only applies to the left.
[–]PMme_slave_leia_pics -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 6時間前 (4子コメント)
Goddamn it. Do you get it? They want this. They want polarizing. They want chaos. Blaming the left is exactly what they want. Regardless of who the protesters were, they were anti trump. Not liberals. Republicans, Jews, Vietnamese, native Americans. Nope just anti trump.
Regardless of who the rioters were, they weren't liberals or the left. They were assholes. They weren't republicans, Jews, Vietnamese just assholes.
They want to polarize. When they have you fighting amongst yourselves that's when they really fuck you.
[–]KopitarFan -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
As a lefty myself, I don't get this shit. I want him to talk. His rhetoric is so ridiculous, that I want him to speak. The more he does, the more he delegitimizes his movement.
[–]moal09 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
So how much of the violence was actually just the 150 person strong "Black Bloc" who showed up late in the protest? It sounds like most of the other 1000 people were peaceful.
Though, granted, those other 1000 are pussies if they saw the violence and did nothing to stop it.
[+]Pinguist スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 3時間前 (19子コメント)
Seems like the demonstrations worked, great! Only place that far right lunatic Milo should be allowed to speak is in his own basement.
[+]KarmaPaymentPlanning スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
So many salty nazis! Here's to hoping r/t_d is next on the chopping block.
[–]ReapingTurtle 36 ポイント37 ポイント38 ポイント 10時間前 (10子コメント)
"The fascists of the future will claim to be anti fascist" - Winston Churchill
[–]vodkaandponies 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 9時間前 (4子コメント)
"It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations."
-Also Churchill
[+]MortalShadow スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
"Muh horseshit theory"
[+]ElDoRado1239 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 3時間前 (6子コメント)
Daily reminder that antifa is definitely not left. They are anarchists, apolitical.
[–]Riidii89 37 ポイント38 ポイント39 ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
The left are destroying themselves. This behavior only validates Trump's existence.
[–]VemundManheim 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
I hope riot police beat the shit out of them.
[–]GottaHaveThemRibs 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Honestly, even though there's a lot to discuss here, especially concerning the university's responsibility to allow the exchange of ideas, Milo's constant search for incitement, etc, I could just not give less of a fuck at this point. All in all, this shit has very little consequence on the real world. Most people in positions of power give zero fucks about Milo and his schemes to get the lowest common denominator of liberals angry or about the plight of university students that want their way. The people in power are only giving a fuck about themselves and are continuing to fuck over the general populace whilst it's distracted. The more people focus on these dumb fucking hissyfits, the less attention that gets devoted to talking about the actual problems plaguing society, often through abuse of the system by powerful individuals. I'm not saying that people need to unite, if there's anything to judge by the recent election, it's that a lot of Americans hate each other. However, if all people focus on is petty shit like this, the large problems that affect us all will never be solved.
Discussing the reasons for the disproportionate deaths of black Americans can lead to solving systemic racism and accountability of enforcers of authority, talking about the lack of wealth in the southern US can lead to fixing the application of federal education and regulations on outsourcing.
Giving attention to Milo's ban at speaking at a university does nothing but give attention to a narcissist who wants people to know about his cause and makes all others feel good inside and less motivated to create actual change.
Do something worthwhile and look at actual problems.
[–]Knobsl2p -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
This is so counter productive. The protesters don't want Milo spreading his "hateful propaganda"? Then don't make his name appear in news all around the world as the victim of suppression. Defeat him with logical argumentation (not really possible in most cases. The man speaks in facts.), not by rioting and making him look like the victim of 'you'.
[–]penone_nyc 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Am I allowed to vote for California to secede if I don't live there?
And for the love of God please stop calling them protesters!!!! They are rioters!
Oh...and isn't it ironic they are protesting a gay immigrant because he wanted to exercise his freedom of speech?
[–]chillaxalready -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Extremists on both sides of the aisle are destroying this nation.
[–]eyedol47 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"
[–]Thinblueline69 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
So much for the tolerant left, huh
[+]Darktidemage スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 9時間前 (3子コメント)
Morons. You gotta get him in the building before you surround it.
[–]McWigan 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 8時間前 (6子コメント)
Maybe not a popular opinion but I love Milo. I think he's incredibly hypocritical in areas, and I don't agree with most of what he says, but I find him incredibly entertaining, and I think it's very important that we have people on the right who are also able to criticize the left just as the left does the right.
[+]Coraxredxrosesx スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19 ポイント-18 ポイント-17 ポイント 7時間前 (6子コメント)
Good work! Keep pushing these hateful Nazi's out! Suppress their hate speech and keep standing up to the rapist president and his supporters! :) I wish I was there to help.
[–]Thatman5454 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 9時間前 (6子コメント)
This shit only happens in blue anti gun states. Try this shit in Texas and those same women you assault will pull out a .38 and end your fucking life
[–]TheboringITguy 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 8時間前* (4子コメント)
Tolerant left at it again! I'm going to enjoy voting for trump for another term.
Check out a video from the peaceful protests!
https://mobile.twitter.com/janeygak/status/826998516144697344/video/1
[+]LX_Theo スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Anarchists are not "left". Its a different political spectrum entirely.
[–]Can-I-Fap-To-This 214 ポイント215 ポイント216 ポイント 8時間前* (86子コメント)
And as someone in the middle, I'm wondering when we can all just admit that liberals are now just rotten, violent caricatures making a fucking mockery of what the left once stood for.
I am honestly more worried for my safety from the left than I am by far from the right.
The entire run-up to the election, we were told by the left that Trumpsters were committing acts of violence because 'Corey Lewandawski (sp whatever) grabbed a reporter too roughly' and 'a person got punched in the face once at a Trump rally'. At the same time they were spinning this narrative, in the background, videos were flooding Youtube of people enacting violence against Trump supporters and laughing like it was a game. Didn't matter, they created their own reality and chose to live in it. This is one of the most disgusting things that happened during the election, by far.
At the same time, Trump was getting grilled on 'not accepting the results of the election' and people were warning about all the crazy gun nuts 'rising up' because they weren't going to get their way and how the right was going to throw a temper tantrum. Then... November 9th, and what happens? People across the country flooding the streets denying the results of the election. And they weren't Trump supporters.
The last two weeks has featured the most distressing examples of liberal reality-bending on Reddit. That post correcting the fake news about the green card holder's mother's death in Iraq? It was massively downvoted in /r/politics. They are now literally conspiring to make sure people don't hear truthful things.
Liberals keep posting this stupid fucking '14 points of fascism' shit (that was made up by someone with zero qualifications who never lived for even a second of his life under a fascist government). You know what I think? I think that when I live in a society where I cannot share my political opinions and thoughts because I am legitimately afraid of being bullied, harassed, or attacked for sharing them, then I'm living in a fascist society. When people have to lie about who they are going to vote for because they will be disowned by their families and excluded, that's some fucking Kim Jong Un shit.
I'm in my mid-30s. I grew up in two of the bluest places on the planet - LA and Chicago. My family are all Democrats. I hated guns and thought Bush was a Nazi like all good Democrats should. Christians were stupid and science was supreme and conservatives were all morons because they couldn't be rational, intelligent, and logical like us.
But this? No. Fucking no. The last six months have showed me that liberals aren't rational, intelligent, and logical. They're bullies, they're sociopaths, and they have had their heads filled with so much delusional garbage that they hold far far more contradictory views than conservatives do. This shit has gotten beyond the fucking pale. One minute I have someone shouting at me that 'only police should have guns', and in the next minute I see them saying that 'all cops should be disarmed because they're violent psychopaths'.
I find myself moving more and more towards the right because while I'm an atheist civil-rights loving ACLU-donating drug-legalization-supporting prison-reform supporter... I morally cannot justify anything the left actually does or says anymore. The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance has reached indescribable levels.
I hear shouts that Trump is going to destroy America. This election showed me that the First Amendment - maybe our most sacred civil rights - is something the left has worked to do irreparable damage to. When you say that certain opinions are "unacceptable" and "invalid" and no conversation can ever take place, you have killed free speech. You have killed free thought. You have killed people's freedom to dissent. And you have broken one of our most cherished American symbols.
Back when I was a liberal, and I would shitpost on the internet, I would come across something conservative posters would say. It was childish, hyperbolic, and absurd: 'liberalism a mental illness'.
It's still a childish, hyperbolic, shitty thing to say. But is it as hyperbolic as it once was?
Guys, I'm honestly not sure.
I honestly don't think it is. And this bothers me. I don't know how much more of this I can take.
[+]40kfreak スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 8時間前 (23子コメント)
And as someone in the middle, I'm wondering when we can all just admit that conservatives are now just rotten, violent caricatures making a fucking mockery of what the right once stood for.
[–]raging_dope_fiend 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
The rioters were anarchist antifa. Why does that tiny minority get to represent the left more than the thousands and thousands of peaceful protesters we had a week or so ago?
[–]CarHelp19 16 ポイント17 ポイント18 ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
Liberals aren't doing this. Liberals are hated by far left, communists.
[–]BrofessorMD 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
I voted for Obama and I will never vote for the left again as long as they use fear-mongering and race-baiting tactics. Its fucking disgusting right now.
[–]Heatios -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Sure he gets a lot of publicity from this, but think people are getting things mixed up. This actually hurts his ability to do public speeches. There's no doubt that people will see this, including many of the potential colleges he probably wants to speak at. Once colleges see this, his options will be incredibly limited as a result. These comments are all about how this is exactly what he wanted to happen, and although that may be true to an extent, any publicity he gained definitely came with a cost. Think about it from the colleges POV; once they see how bad this riot became, hardly any of them will want anything to do with him. Even if they liked him, even if the majority of their school agreed with his views, it's probably not something any of them are going to want to risk. So although he made a short term gain in publicity he otherwise wouldn't have got, it's probably a long term loss as I doubt any colleges will allow him to speak, out of fear that something like this could happen.
[–]Eecstasy -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm a cis white male that just graduated from UC Berkeley and live 2 blocks from where the protest happened. Not surprised this happened here given some of the batshit crazy things I've heard people say over the years.
[–]Asterisk007 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
buddy who goes there said the majority rioters didn't even go to Berkeley
[–]Cheryl_Johnson -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Antifa black bloc protesters armed with bats, wood poles and clubs screaming and ganging up on the guy and then crying foul when he drives the fuck out of there. Yeah, i'm sure he should have stuck around to get his car smashed to bits and his head kicked in by an angry mob. Anyone remember the LA Riots where Reginald Denny was pulled from his truck and beaten to the point where he became permanently disabled? Whenever there is a protest (literally anything) they show up dressed all in black worth their faces covered and clubs and just break shit. So... Raiders fans?
[–]fooreddit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Black bloc idiots making anarchism look bad. Fucking twats.
[–]wrenchinthemachine -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
this quote says it all......"It allows people on the right to say, 'Look at all these liberal Berkeley snowflakes. They're intolerant of speech.' I don't think it's productive at all. It does nothing to help this country."
[–]atdsr -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I mean, I'm a Muslim American and a socialist- I'd honestly love to have a one on one conversation with Milo, he's an intelligent guy but I just believe he's on the wrong side of the fence.
[–]tpbRandysAlterEgo -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
Awesome let's all do exactly what Milo wanted us to do, so he has more fuel for his hateful, inflammatory rhetoric. Breitbart news is playing us all, martial law could soon be a reality.
[–]bluebear47 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
For a liberal institution of higher learning, the fine folks at UC Berkeley don't seem very tolerant.
[–]Lots42 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
While I wish it could have been done without violence I'm glad it was -done-.
[–]donegalwake -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
His recent BBC interview was so funny. Seems clever but seriously manipulative when speaking
[–]USofAwesome 536 ポイント537 ポイント538 ポイント 11時間前 (121子コメント)
Rioting on your own campus, have fun paying for that next semester.
[–]87788778 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
"College should be free."
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