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Brianna Wu says the Gamergate Playbook poisoned the election (theoutline.com)

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[–]DontWriteZpforFp 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (12子コメント)

One question:

Wu draws a direct line from Gamergate to the Trump White House. “At the height of Gamergate,” she says, “I had two calls with Obama's White House. And we were very serious, and they told me they were going to get serious about prosecuting Gamergate. And they didn't. I personally blame Obama for Hillary losing. ... I believe that if Obama had followed through on Gamergate and the prosecutions there, which we talked about and they said they were working on, I believe that this playbook for the alt-right would not have poisoned the entire election.”

Is this satire?

[–]moonmehthe controversial Korean 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (9子コメント)

no seriously everytime she tries to sound smart and intelligent she comes off as clueless in politics

why do people take her seriously?

[–]Plan-Six 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gamegate applied the same style of propaganda and bad faith arguments that are used in Whataboutism. Stopping them isn’t going to do shit for the rest of reality which is deep into it. Also the whole Russian connection.

If people want to put Democrats on blast for something, it is this obsession with rational, fact based arguments to counter very emotional issues. You can’t overwhelm the fear of refugees with math about how not dangerous they are. You can’t counter fundamentally irrational fears with rational arguments based around statistics.

The best argument against outlawing abortion is “People will riot, there will be mass civil unrest and everyone will have evangelicals for it. And abortions won’t stop.”

But once again, that isn’t Obama’s fault, he understood that. The Clinton camp just had a bad plan and didn’t understand how compelling “I will save you all” is as a campaign.

[–]GateauBaker 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

why do people take her seriously?

Because she's against GamerGate.

Adding: Not everyone checks the reliability of their allies.

[–]YinTemp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Because for the longest time, this sub also acted like GG was everything in politics, and many highly upvoted users (some who were unhealthily obsessed with this sub) would say similar things. Also, the sub had (and still has) no coherent political leanings, so many users, including myself, were willing to take the word of anyone against GG despite the petty e-drama that followed (though to be fair, it didn't help that "anti-GG" was used by GG to poison the well against anyone who even looked at them funny).

[–]Malacath_terumi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

what do you mean the sub has no coherent political leanings?

you mean in the specific sense, like liberal, socialist, socio-democrat, etc...

or just the idea of being left/right, conservationism/progressist?

[–]moonmehthe controversial Korean 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but Brianna Wu had a huge tiff with the users here and left, there was that article of how "she fought the alt right and won" and incidents of toxic discourse on twitter.

It just seems silly how she is somehow relevant to current discourse on politics

[–]firestorm713 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The rest of the site doesn't appear to be

[–]RefuseAndResist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Her ten minutes of fame should be up now.

Unlike the internet fascists, we don't, and shouldn't, cling to people just because they claim to profess what side they are on.

I heard she's running for office. NO. She'll be like the Rudy Giuliani of Gamergate.

[–]3spacemenandababy 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, it really didn't. This is where the Republicans have been heading for a long time, hell most of Trump's positions are ordinary Republicanism, just more crass.

The problem with putting this focus on the alt-reich and gamergaters (but I repeat myself) is that it absolves Republicans, and by extension America, of a long history of bigotry. Much like blaming everything on Russia or comparing Trump to latin dictators, it shifts the problem from 'us' to 'them'.

Gamergaters did not put Trump in the White House, ordinary Republican voters did.

Also - "The alt right swung the election" does not work terribly well with Wu's slogan of "I fought the alt right and won"

[–]YinTemp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an addendum to your comment, the Latin American demagogues came to power in reaction to the USA constantly meddling with the region and propping up dictators that agreed with the latter's politics.

[–]Plan-Six 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Saying “I’ll save you” won the election for Trump. And just barely.

[–]Nurglings 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It seems a lot more likely that the alt right playbook that poisoned the election also brought about Gamergate. Gamergate was a symptom, not a cause.

[–]BeetlecatOneFlair to Middlin' 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Precisely this. Reactionary, regressive thinking is nothing new, just because it uses modern technology and has aspects that concern modern forms of media/entertainment...

[–]mo60000Canadian Ghazelle 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Gamergate played little to no role in the US election, but the alt right definitely played a role in the election and will play a role in the elections coming up soon in European countries starting in March.

[–]goforthespacerecordsocial justice battlemage 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

gamergate is awful but it isn't everything

[–]Robjec:p 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think she might have things a bit backwards. Which probably isn't good for a speech when she's running for government. :p

[–]moocow1452 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In this environment, who knows?

[–]MeguminnNever Go Full Ethics 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

With friends like these... sigh