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Alternative to commonly given MRP advice (self.askMRP)

Stoptalkingplease64 が 投稿

I've read often (and agree with) this type of statement: "when the wife denies you sex, don't get butt hurt and go do something cool/worthwhile/fun/productive." When that happens that's what I do now instead of acting like a little bitch and stomping my foot. I had an idea I'd like some feedback on. When the wife says no, has anyone ever just said "ok, that's fine" (in a non-butt hurt tone) but then start jerking off either in front of the wife or in a different room but making sure she's aware what you're doing. Too bold? Weird? Too strong? I'm looking forward to everyone's thoughts.

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[–]WesternhagenWinner 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nothing inspires dread in a woman like "if you won't fuck me, I have no better alternative than my hand".

[–]trp_ocd1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually think that done with proper timing and tone, would be rub until near climax in the next room then jump into the room, flip on the lights and scream bloody murder at the top if your lungs, flinging jizz at her direction, hitting face, pillow, wall, nightstand. Then just calmly leave.

[–]InChargeMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol, not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.

[–]discobolus_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why stop at home? I do this when the 19 year old barista won't tell me what time she gets off work.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's denying you sex because she's not attracted to you. I'm having trouble seeing how your solution would help the situation.

[–]Mecha75 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seems pretty beta to wank it in front of her because she denied you sex. Or to do it in such a way that you ensure she knows. Now to answer your other question, i cant get up and leave after a refusal. I would do that during my dead bedroom era all the time. So doing that is a no go for me. Instead, i have to say "okay, thats fine" and roll over and go to sleep. Then the next day i spend more time doing whatever i want outside the house. Going to the gym again afterwork, hitting up barnes and noble for another book or series to read, etc. still, the general premise is to remove yourself from her presence is the point. My wife gets it quickly. I rarely go past two nights.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To all the lurkers thinking that this doesn't work for them, you have to make yourself awesome enough for her to care if you withdraw.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP. This.

Priming your pump in front of her is not attractive.

Remember. Be attractive

[–]Stoptalkingplease64[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Makes sense. The "reinforce good behavior, punish bad behavior (by removing attention)" strategy. Thanks for sharing man.

[–]RuleZeroDAD 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the appropriate words of u/whinemoreplease:

You do you.

[–]InChargeMan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what she sees

[–]JDRoedell 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One time after she gave me a hard no, she said something to the effect of, "can't you just take care of yourself sometimes?" I said, "ha, sorry babe, I didn't get married so I could jerk off." This was early in my RP awakening and I think I also vomited something like, "maybe you can start looking for a husband who feels like being committed to you," And I left. The last comment was weak and butt hurt but you get my point.

Absolutely do not fucking do this. Do i occasionally jerk off in longer sex droughts, yes. I NEVER let her know this. EVER.

[–]LewisCross 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. Don't do that.

A woman masturbating in front of a man says "I am sexually available and sexually turned on".

A man masturbating in front of a woman says "I'm doing this only because I can't get a woman to do it for me".

A woman masturbating is sexy. A man masturbating is desperate.

[–]The_Litz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is passive aggressive. And passive aggressive belongs in the bluepill toolbox.

[–]Triadis3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The whole reason you leave is to instill some dread.

Maybe you're going to the gym, but maybe you're going out to get some strange.

The problem with her rejecting you in the first place means that she has you on lockdown in her mind. To her, your only source for sex is her, so she can deny you whenever.

Don't go beat it in a corner. This demonstrates to her that she truly does "have you by the balls". Disappear. You have better things to to than furiously masturbating. (You'd better.)( Actually it sounds like you have some reading to do. )

[–]Thomaskingo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but then start jerking off either in front of the wife or in a different room but making sure she's aware what you're doing.

What do you hope to achieve by this?

[–]innominating 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was some discussion about this when I first started about 1.5 years ago. I recall the sentiment being that it is fine, not necessarily Alpha or Beta.

I have never tried it. I have had a lot of success leaving the house and coming back two hours later and immediately taking a shower.

[–]VengefullyY0urs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think even leaving when you are denied sex can take some time to be effective. If she is no attracted to you or you have a history of dead bedroom style "talks" she could just take you leaving as more butt hurt behavior - even when you are going to the gym or whatever. You were comfortable with her in you bed, and she gave a hard no and now you are reacting. Mix that will a whiny non-attractive history and it does not help.

Even this part takes working up to. Honestly, even saying nothing takes working up to.

[–]Soberskipper 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be a win win for her...especially if she doesn't find you attractive

[–]F1shtowner 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In a non RP lurker but this is Ask MRP so here goes:

I often see advice about not acting butthurt but then leaving to instill dread if the wife declines sex. Is the goal to simply not act butthurt or is it to not actually BE butthurt? I ask because the advice about leaving the house in the middle of the night because you have better things to do etc. seems designed to evoke a reaction (dread) in the wife, which indicates to me some level of butthurt.

What kind of non butthurt guy plays these passive aggressive games to scare his wife?

The other advice I see is "If she's not fucking you she's not attracted to you." Keeping attraction and sex up in a long term marriage is damn hard. I honestly believe if every guy here looked like [insert famous alpha here] you may get laid slightly more but there would still be times when the wife did not want sex.

Because being a parent is fucking tiring.

I'm not sure that's a question so much as an observation.