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Hi All,
A few days ago, we talked about a few technological and process changes we would be working on in order to improve your Reddit experience and ensure access to timely information is available.
Over the last day we rolled out a behavior change to r/all. The r/all listing gives us a glimpse into what is happening on all of Reddit independent of specific interests or subscriptions. In many ways, r/all is a reflection of what is happening online in general. It is culturally important and drives many conversations around the world.
The changes we are making are to preserve this aspect of r/all—our specific goal being to prevent any one community from dominating the listing. The algorithm change is fairly simple—as a community is represented more and more often in the listing, the hotness of its posts will be increasingly lessened. This results in more variety in r/all.
Many people will ask if this is related to r/the_donald. The short answer is no, we have been working on this change for a while, but I cannot deny their behavior hastened its deployment. We have seen many communities like r/the_donald over the years—ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else. This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
Interestingly enough, r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes. It seems the rest of the Reddit community had had enough. Ironically, r/EnoughTrumpSpam was hit harder than any other community when we rolled out the changes. That’s Reddit for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As always, we will keep an eye out for any unintended side-effects and make changes as necessary. Community has always been one of the very best things about Reddit—let’s remember that. Thank you for reading, thank you for Reddit-ing, let’s all get back to connecting with our fellow humans, sharing ferret gifs, and making the Reddit the most fun, authentic place online.
Steve
u: I'm off for now. Thanks for the feedback! I'll check back in a couple hours.
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[–]karmanaut 6104 points6105 points6106 points  (1511 children)
Hey Spez,
I'd like to propose an alternative to /r/All, which would be something like /r/Outstanding.
Sorting by most upvotes is great. But what I would really want to see are those posts that really exceed the expectations of their respective subreddits. Let's say that /r/Pics regularly has posts that get to 5,000 points. Obviously those will show up in /r/All, even if they're nothing special. It's just because /r/Pics is so big, and the top post is bound to get that high.
But, at the same time, let's say that the /r/PicsOfUnusualBirds subreddit (not sure if that's a real thing) normally gets only 50 votes per post, but a post today got 100 votes. Whoa! Double what they regularly get. That must mean that it's a really good submission, right? That's the kind of content I want to see.
The overall basis of it should be votes by percentage of subscribers, or something along those lines. it needs to take in the population of the subreddit into account. Obviously there would need to be some control (like if a submission in /r/PicsOfUnusualBirds was linked to in a popular /r/Askreddit post) to prevent brigading style stuff. But that can all be tweaked; just think about the concept.
Pros of this system (as opposed to /r/All)
  • Will allow for better subreddit discovery because small subreddits will be able to get on the list more easily.
  • Takes away the advantage of massive default subreddits.
  • Can't be dominated by one subreddit regularly, unless it continually exceeds its previous records (which would be really difficult).
  • Would really highlight the very best of Reddit or the most important news.
[–]spez[S,A] 4162 points4163 points4164 points  (1279 children)
So, that's approximately how the current front page works. We normalize the scores and sort by the most outstanding. It's limited to defaults / subscriptions, though.
You basically describe the new frontpage algorithm I've been fantasizing about. We started work on this, in fact, but we re-allocated that brainpower (u/KeyserSosa) to focus on anti-evil for a while. We have since hired more brainpower and have less evil, so I'm hopeful we can get back to it soon.
[–]reboticon 1010 points1011 points1012 points  (479 children)
Can you expand on what you mean by 'having less evil?'
I like this /r/all change and I like that you made an announcement about it.
[–]spez[S,A] 1841 points1842 points1843 points  (430 children)
Can you expand on what you mean by 'having less evil?'
We've made a lot of progress fighting spam, Account Take Overs (ATOs), and reported abuse over the past few months.
[–]mjfleck34 289 points290 points291 points  (28 children)
Just a user who doesn't fully understand the programming and algorithms, but along the lines of the r/outstanding idea above, perhaps an r/mini-all that incorporates your same tweeks but only posts the "all" of subs with less than X subscribers, or r/micro-all for even smaller subs. R/all is still for the Budweisers and Millers of subreddits, r/mini-all gets into your Sam Adams range, and r/micro-all promotes your hipster nano-brew subreddits. Thanks for listening. I will now go have a beer for some reason.
[–]WalkingTurtleMan 3263 points3264 points3265 points x3 (82 children)
Hey /u/spez, completely unrelated to anything else but I just want to say that I appreciate these announcement posts. I like that the admins are taking a positive role in making my online community better, and I like knowing what kind of changes are occurring.
Please let your team know that at least one redditor likes what's going on.
[–]dios_Achilleus 488 points489 points490 points  (93 children)
Could you add "automatically switching to mobile site" under the "evil" category? I like the desktop site on my mobile. I don't understand why I can be browsing and then suddenly it switches to mobile.
[–]Hellknightx 18 points19 points20 points  (1 child)
Excellent news. I appreciate all the behind-the-scenes work, as well as the transparency on the matter. Keep it up!
[–]I_AM_STILL_A_IDIOT 1196 points1197 points1198 points  (67 children)
So, that's approximately how the current front page works. We normalize the scores and sort by the most outstanding. It's limited to defaults / subscriptions, though.
Right, that limitation is essentially what he means.
Like I said in another comment:
/r/JapanPics hardly cracks 500 points for even the best posts. But just once we had a post pass 1300 points. Within the subreddit, that's an outstanding post that everyone loves. But outside of it, it's just another post that can hardly crack the top 100 on /r/all's "hot" list.
Really hoping something that overcomes this obstacle to non-defaults makes it to a working option some day. It'd be great to see smaller communities get a fair bit of attention that isn't inhibited by their lack of subscribers.
[–]MeltedTwix 314 points315 points316 points  (70 children)
Do you normalize based off the origin of the upvotes?
e.g., "Donald is teh best" post gets 100% upvotes from /r/thedonald but 12% upvotes from not /r/thedonald (anyone browsing /r/all)
It seems that if you want the front page to be both Dynamic and a representation of "What's Happening" as a whole, the system should basically look at it like this:
  • Post is created in subreddit
  • subreddit votes on post
  • reddit algorithm tests its hotness by normalizing scores
  • post is put on /r/all
  • /r/all votes on post, while subreddit continues to vote
  • reddit algorithm tests its hotness by normalizing scores in relation to /r/all specifically
  • reddit algorithm then compares the discrepancy between /r/all votes and subreddit votes against all other present subreddit/all, then alters hotness accordingly
So if /r/thedonald gives 100% upvotes but /r/all gives 12%, it would then compare this with the fact that the /r/pics posts have an average of 70%/50% ratio. This would tell the algorithm that the /r/thedonald post is actually really niche and failed in /r/all while the /r/pics was actually something that the public wanted.
[–]YouveBeenOneUpped 80 points81 points82 points  (8 children)
Hey Spez, I'm sure you're way ahead of this, but when you weigh only by historic average upvotes, you're opening the window for gaming.
"Why don't we just submit to r/tinysubreddit and then upvote it to the frontpage? since we can game it with fewer accounts? We'll pick r/othertinysubreddit next week"
It's not democratic, and probably pretty "unreddit" but weighting age of account that upvotes, breadth of different subreddits the upvoter is involved in, timing/spacing between upvotes that follow robot patterns, and speed of upvote value decay according to the upvoter profile and such could go a ways to fix potential marketers, etc.
Ex: upvoter was new account, only upvoting in this group, no submissions, always votes within X seconds of Y account with similar pattern, so decay rate of upvote is set to decimal multiplier of other upvote decay rates.
Maybe there's argument that this further democratizes the upvote focusing on the "value of attention" versus the quantity. Or maybe that would just be introducing a literal 3/5th vote? hahahaeughhhhh.
2 cents. :)
[–]alphabetgun 132 points133 points134 points  (15 children)
Right, /u/spez, but what about a front page that uses karmanaut's idea—high scores against the mean of each specific subreddit—but uses all subreddits, even the ones I'm not subscribed to.
That's the difference. /r/all is the highest score of all subreddits. My homepage is the highest score against the mean of ones I subscribe to. I'd appreciate a subreddit that was the highest score against the mean of all subreddits, which doesn't currently exist.
[–]PsychMarketing 18 points19 points20 points  (1 child)
I love this idea that /u/karmanaut proposed - we really should get rid of the defaults - and ensure that in the new /r/all that only 1 post from a subreddit could make it to the top at a time (which usually happens anyways) - so you dont' get 10 posts from /r/funny. And let the community decide what shows up - and have an easy way, click of a button, that we can click that basically has the behavior of "never show posts from this subreddit again" - and bam... we get to discover awesome new subreddits - ensure our frontpage doesn't have stuff we don't personally want - and the community decides what the front page of the internet generally looks like - I love this
[–]unverified_user 63 points64 points65 points  (20 children)
I feel like you'd see a lot of small subs upvote whatever message they want on the front page. Like /r/stamps would have a post that says,
Stamps rule! Upvote this to /r/all so that everyone can see how awesome stamps are!
[–]sveitthrone 15 points16 points17 points  (3 children)
So, assigning a handicap to subreddits to enable greater post visibility? On one hand, that's exciting. I sometimes see subs I subscribe to buried on my own frontpage because they're smaller communities.
On the other hand, some subs prefer to remain smaller communities. Would you consider adding an opt-in option for subs that want to stay that way?
[–]WhirledWorld 89 points90 points91 points  (19 children)
Why not just provide users with the option to choose their r/all algorithm, just like we can choose the algorithm that sorts comments?
[–]kijib 22 points23 points24 points  (5 children)
Your top algorithm needs to factor in respective vote counts
When I miss reddit for a week, I search top posts of the week, and nearly 75% of those are from /r/showerthoughts because it just overwhelms all my smaller more niche subreddits
Please fix this
[–]kevinstonge 97 points98 points99 points  (59 children)
I'm enjoying /r/all today!
I really hate censorship on reddit, but I equally hate it when one subreddit takes over the whole damn site screaming like a spoiled child who got one lollipop instead of two.
Today, /r/all has a nice diversity to it and I really feel like I'm getting a peek at what's going on all across reddit!
Thanks /u/spez!
[–]Shirovera -131 points-130 points-129 points  (364 children)
The_Donald wasn't getting randomly downvoted off of /r/all yesterday. They were being brigaded. Most of the posts that were being posted would have a bit over 50% or 60%.
I'm pretty sure the anti Trump sub was being brigaded too.
When are you going to actually step in and deal with this brigading situation? Because really you just ignore subs that you guys don't like. Then bitch at the_donald or other subs when they do one little thing wrong.
Also about "taking over the conversation". For months and months and months Bernie Sanders was on the front page daily with multiple posts. Then one or two days the_Donald was on the front page and it's a problem because of the_donald? Maybe it's because you guys let mods do basically whatever they want with the default subs, and /r/news censored.. which you said you were mad over also. How about fixing how default mods work.. instead of putting the blame on one community.
Also it's complete bullshit this algorithm. Not because of the_donald but because of smaller subs. If people don't like what is on the front page, like you said they can downvote.. and there is a lot more people not on the_Donald then on the_donald. So it should fix what is on the front page if people really do not want to see it. There is also ways they can hide anything they do not want to see on the front page.. maybe you should have made an announcement on that.
So anyways this hurts smaller subs, and now we will just have a bunch of default subs with cat pics and smaller shit like that, with your occasional lucky non default sub hitting /r/all (rarely).. nice diversity!
Unless this really was just for the_Donald.. so great censoring?
I'm not one to say oh a site will fail just because you censored one thing (look at twitter, and facebook).. but if censoring keeps up.. especially on a forum/discussion/pic site.. people get bored and move on. It's happened to every other single one. But what does it matter right.. as long as you don't talk about ISLAM in an ISLAMIC TERRORIST shooting..you guys are happy?
to focus on anti-evil for a while
Straight up censoring. Honestly. What will stop you guys from removing anything you disagree with? I'm not saying everything on the_donald is great or right to everyone (I think them spamming about you was really uncalled for).. but one persons opinion, is another persons disagreement.. so when does the "evil" stop? What someone posts a cat pic you don't like and it gets censored? LOL
Edit: I'm also not posting this because of the_donald. Because I liked the_Donald more when it wasn't being hated on daily. I liked the_donald more when it was smaller and not hitting the front page. HOWEVER people should decide what gets popular and what doesn't. Not the admins. I don't like when SJW shit gets put on the front page. I don't like when I see someone talking about a lot of shit I disagree with on the front page.. however I believe that everyone should be allowed an opinion. Regardless of what I think or anyone thinks. If it hits /r/all it's because people wanted it on /r/all and that's not something for me to change or ANYONE to change.
Oh and btw most of the front page right now is stuff I can look at Facebook or Twitter for.. maybe because all posts are defaults. Where's the non default subs? How will you guys compete with Facebook and Twitter?
Check my comment for how /r/all should be. It was getting upvoted fast because people agreed with me.. now it's getting downvoted because people don't agree with me. SEE how that works? It's a great thing.
Edit 2: Also everyone commenting me.. I haven't downvoted one of you because regardless if you agree or disagree with me, your comment adds to discussion. I might not upvote you, but didn't downvote you. Which is how Reddit should be. Downvotes are for people that do not add to discussion, upvotes are for people you agree with. But they get abused regularly.. which is another point.. when will that be fixed, because I think the majority of users agree that Reddit was better when you didn't depend on downvotes/upvotes?
[–]Axi-o-matic 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Hey /u/spez,
I am curious as to how the website currently handles breaking news. Does it take into account the rate at which a post is being upvoted? I imagine this is how the "rising" category must work. I'd imagine it would be helpful if the front page displayed posts that were gaining upvotes unusually fast, so that breaking news events (such as shootings) might be visible before they reach a certain threshold of upvotes. If this is already part of how it works, then forgive me for redundant advice. It's also possible that such a system would be impractical if people started using bots to quickly upvote posts to the front page.
[–]ArchangelleAnnRomney 2590 points2591 points2592 points  (557 children)
Any news about plans to get rid of the concept of default subs?
It seems they cause numerous problems, and you mentioned in your last announcement about /r/news that you weren't a fan of them either.
[–]spez[S,A] 1819 points1820 points1821 points  (523 children)
No news to share, but it's very much on my mind. I'd really like communities to come and go organically. Right now, we (Reddit Inc), do the choosing, and I don't like playing kingmaker.
We have communities that come and go quickly (around major world events); rise and fall over the course of months (r/nba, r/gameofthrones); and communities that stay popular for years and years (r/iama, r/AskReddit). We'd like to be able to account for all of these situations.
[–]henx125 645 points646 points647 points  (243 children)
Doesn't /r/all effectively do this already? Would it be too crazy to simply remove defaults and rely on /r/all being the new "default"?
[–]spez[S,A] 937 points938 points939 points  (216 children)
Sort of, but r/all is sorted based on absolute hotness, which means a post in r/funny that has 10k upvotes and 5k downvotes will be ranked higher than a post in r/sewerhorse that has 30 upvotes and no downvotes.
[–]Neospector 654 points655 points656 points  (23 children)
I don't know what I'm looking at here, exactly...
Anyway, I like the tagging system that was suggested in the Orlando thread as a replacement for defaults. At sign-up, the site asks questions about your interests and gives you subs that are similarly tagged as options for your front page. Then you can keep the defaults for people who are too lazy or don't care what they look at, while the people who do care get to customize the way they want.
[–]Tasadar 104 points105 points106 points  (33 children)
I think getting rid of defaults and using a system that encourages adding (or even prioritizing) and blocking subreddits would help new users tailor their experience. /r/all is sort of garbage (though I visit it occasionally), but getting people to set up a reddit with what they like is tricky, so if you could get them to gradually remove/add subreddits as they go that'd be a better way to get people what they want.
Like maybe make upvoting a post from a subreddit give that subreddit a higher rating for the user. Store it on their user page, the more things they upvote/downvote the less they see them. If I think /r/funny is garbage I will start to see it less and less as I downvote it, and if I really like /r/earthporn I'll get more of that as I upvote their most outstanding posts. Then if someone wants to set up their reddit you have a whole list of subreddits that they are already prioritizing, plus related subreddits to recommend.
[–]Azrona 187 points188 points189 points  (56 children)
That and, while I like browsing /r/all, the porn is annoying. Can disable NSFW ofc, but some subreddits are NSFW without being porn. Using RES to filter them out is like playing whack-a-mole.
Can't there just be a porn tag alongside NSFW?
[–]dredmorbius 5 points6 points7 points  (15 children)
Doing a very hard rethink of what moderation is and how it should be interpreted is something Reddit should consider.
A popularity contest will always be ... a popularity contest. Aiming for quality is rather more complicated, and simple summed upvotes doesn't get you there.
Upvotes/views, vote ratio/votes (that is, +/- over total)), expert judgement (on posts in which truth value matters), net discussion quality, etc., etc., all come into play.
Another issue (and one in this thread itself) is comment discoverability. The ability to no only sort but filter to specific comments of interest ... would be handy. I'm reading on Android/Firefox with desktop Web view right now -- that beats either of the Mobile (i.reddit.com or m.reddit.com) options. But RES isn't available. And do I ever miss being able to collapse all child posts.
Even that isn't helpful for finding really standout comments buried a level or two deep.
[–]2scared 127 points128 points129 points  (16 children)
What the fuck; how do they have so many submissions?
[–]workraken 144 points145 points146 points  (15 children)
TIL /r/sewerhorse is a thing. And it is amazing.
[–]TheScouseWizard 115 points116 points117 points  (7 children)
Just throwing this out there, but would it not be nice to have some sort of "survey me" option? Particularly for new users.
You could answer a bunch of questions and get recommended subreddits.
For new users, it isn't exactly clear how you discover new subs and, even as someone who has been using Reddit for some time, I still stumble upon subs I would have loved to have found earlier.
Plus, I know this is a sore point for some people - but I know it's a good argument for business - you could add an optional "consent to my data being sold" tick box or, if that's too on-the-nose, use it to personalise adverts in a way similar to AdSense (although I suspect you already do something like that, the surveys would give more in depth, personal answers than randomly monitoring cookies or whatnot).
[–]dpkirchner 35 points36 points37 points  (2 children)
During the /r/news censorship kerfuffle someone (and I forget who, sorry) brought up the idea of replacing default subreddits with default multireddits, where the multireddits are comprised of multiple "competing" or at least related subreddits.
For example, /m/news could include /r/news, /r/worldnews, and /r/politics (and others, I'm sure). /m/funny might include /r/jokes, /r/adviceanimals, /r/badwomensanatomy, /r/shittyaskscience (but certainly not /r/funny). and so on.
You'd still be acting as kingmaker but you'd be able to choose from a lot more options and you could include some UI that explains what the multireddits are about and how they can customize their "news" and "funny" feeds, if they want.
[–]CarrollQuigley 1585 points1586 points1587 points  (136 children)
I've said this to you a bunch of times now and I'll say it again:
Any subreddit that wants to retain default status should be required to enable a public moderation log, with a link to the moderation log available in the sidebar.
[–]016Bramble 22 points23 points24 points  (6 children)
Lots of other websites start off with you having no subscriptions (or follows or whatever their equivalent is) and have a list of recommended ones for different interests such as "television," "sports," "discussion," etc. I think having a new user page like that for reddit would be a better alternative to defaults.
[–]All_I_feel_is_rage 18 points19 points20 points  (2 children)
Can we get an actual answer to whether or not anything is going to be done about /r/news? The mods there don't seem to be doing their jobs respectively and that answer you gave seemed more like a cop out than an actual response.
[–]IranianGenius 36 points37 points38 points  (3 children)
Yes! There's been discussion about this for over 11 months! It would be great to implement things like this, and for now, just having a rotating slot of defaults would be a huge improvement over keeping the same 50 we've had for years.
/r/ListOfSubreddits was trending yesterday for this reason. People are looking for alternatives to these subreddits, where they can experience other communities and other parts of reddit!
Please do keep this problem in mind!
[–]seditious_commotion 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I think that promoting the use of subreddit filters could easily allow the concept of a default sub to be replaced.
I find that I spend more time on my carefully filtered /r/all than I do on my own subscribed front page now. It allows me a way to find new subs I will like, and block subs I don't like and it is MUCH better than the random button.
[–]thegoodbadandsmoggy 26 points27 points28 points  (8 children)
Bro /r/nba is always fire. Have you never read the offseason Durant to Vancouver shit posts?
[–]MockDeath 557 points558 points559 points  (83 children)
Having a filter for nsfw for all or a separate /r/all would be nice.
Many of us slack at work and brows reddit, at least speaking for myself it would be nice if there was less to no NSFW on a version of /r/all.
-edit- I appreciate the advice, I actually use RES everywhere but work. but I do browse reddit at lunch and breaks.. and occasionally not lunch and breaks. But if you are the frontpage of the internet, new users will not know how to filter things.
[–]spez[S] 789 points790 points791 points  (56 children)
Agreed.
Many of us slack at work and browse reddit
At least I can claim it's work.
[–]bob1689321 278 points279 points280 points  (25 children)
My friend wants to know if you guys have any plans of making an NSFW-only version of /r/all?
[–]Paedor 20 points21 points22 points  (0 children)
It's funny that you don't look like an admin in this comment. Makes it seem less legit.
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    [–]ThogOfWar 1313 points1314 points1315 points  (366 children)
    Hey /u/spez, how do you feel about the new "Stickied Posts" being used only for announcement texts, disrupting services in subreddits like /r/ScenesFromAHat where they can no longer post their Scenes Of The Week properly?
    I, for one, am sad :(
    [–]spez[S,A] 645 points646 points647 points  (307 children)
    Thanks for the feedback. We're still thinking about stickies, and will likely make more changes. In the meantime, sorry we upset your usage of it.
    [–]baked_ham 751 points752 points753 points  (182 children)
    I agree with /u/thogofwar, the lack of stickies will really hurt sports themed subreddits. They usually sticky game day threads, making them easier to find without having to wade through all the garbage twitter stat-experts' posts
    [–]spez[S,A] 429 points430 points431 points  (160 children)
    Game day threads should still work if they are self posts, which most are, by the way.
    [–]1millionbucks 322 points323 points324 points  (131 children)
    Can the reddit admins really conceive of no scenario in which it would be beneficial to have a link sticky instead of a text post? Some subreddits are communities that formed from other sites on the internet, such as online games and commercial websites. What if a subreddit devoted to a youtuber wanted to sticky his latest video? Suppose a shopping subreddit wanted to sticky a post with Black Friday deals? Limiting stickies to the self-post only format simply because of one subreddit's abuse of the feature is ridiculous and totally unfair.
    [–]geo1088 19 points20 points21 points  (44 children)
    So when can we expect these more changes?
    The sticky changes are just bad. The new requirements are still breaking mod workflows, even though it's been said before that good mod tools should be the priority. You're just taking us backward here.
    The announcement post for the new stickies seems to have the lowest upvote/downvote ration since the new search page came out, and if you look at the "new" sort in the comments, you'll find tons of moderators complaining about it. The restrictions aren't changes anyone wanted, because they're limiting people's ability to moderate. Some subreddits have even had to tell users to post news as text posts, so the mods can get around these changes.
    The changes made just seem so poorly thought out. I'm still not sure what you and the team were trying to accomplish by them, but I can tell you that the moderators who have to live with it are not happy. Something has to be changed here.
    [–]spez[S] -16 points-15 points-14 points  (41 children)
    Thanks for the feedback. We reverted the sticky behavior a little while ago.
    [–]chicklepip 45 points46 points47 points  (1 child)
    Regarding the sticky situation: Why not make two separate categories of posts: stickies, and announcements. Any post, by any user, can be made into stickies. They can be text posts, links, pictures, or whatever. They will be stickied to the top of a subreddit, but will not show up in /r/all. Announcements can only be made by moderators, and can only be text posts. These can show up in /r/all. This way, sports threads, breaking news, etc. threads can make it to /r/all, where they rightfully should be (as announcements), and communities can still make use of stickies, sans the /r/all abuse we've seen in the past with subreddits like /r/the_donald. What do you think?
    [–]Tox77 78 points79 points80 points  (9 children)
    Why did you not make a distinction between stickies and announcements? On a subreddit I moderate we sticky discussion threads made by users in order to promote more activity on them. Now they are all labelled as announcements when they're not announcements in the slightest. This seems like something that would have easily been noticed before this update happened
    [–]johnmal85 60 points61 points62 points  (1 child)
    Can stickies be exclusive from Upvotes or something to keep them active as they are?
    [–]H_L_Mencken 7 points8 points9 points  (2 children)
    I still have no idea how the switch from stickies to announcements has anything to do with the problem is was supposedly trying to remedy? Can anybody explain this to me?
    [–]marcus_enb 13 points14 points15 points  (4 children)
    I recently began using a subreddit as an alternative to youtube comments on my (400k+ subscriber) channel. With Alientube, Reddit seemed like (and is) a really good alternative for discussion that allows for some moderation... which was impossible on youtube.
    I've been using stickies to help people find the newest "official video comment" threads. It was very convenient to be able to just link the video and sticky it. I can kind of get around the limitation by making a self post with a video link in the post, but that really has left me wondering what the point of the limitation is if it is so easily circumvented.
    [–]raven12456 258 points259 points260 points  (75 children)
    How will this affect when an event occurs and a subreddit has a lot of activity? (Ex- /r/Sports or sport specific subs during playoffs/finals, /r/news when something happens before it gets rolled into a megathread, /r/DOTA 2 during The Internationals, etc) Will we be seeing less of those on r/all when that happens?
    [–]spez[S,A] 235 points236 points237 points  (68 children)
    You'll see fewer powers from the same community. This is one of those cases where we might be throwing out some of the good with the bad. We'll keep a watch during major events and see how it feels. I don't believe r/all or our current front page is the best solution for Reddit, but it's the best we have right now.
    [–]PAY_CLOSE_ATTENTION 131 points132 points133 points  (12 children)
    This is one of those cases where we might be throwing out some of the good with the bad.
    i disagree, it sounds like this change will be a perfect solution for sporting events taking over /r/all. If i'm interested in NBA finals or a DOTA tournament, i'll be visiting the respective subreddit for those sports. If i'm not interested, one or two posts on /r/all is plenty. it's not fun when anything takes over /r/all, whether it's a short-lived event or a long-running thing like the elections.
    [–]Azured 106 points107 points108 points  (20 children)
    Hi spez. Would you consider providing a subreddit that does not have the enhanced algorithm applied to it? Some sort of /r/trueall for example.
    Overall I prefer the change, but there is a reality that this change will distort. I think it's valuable to be able to see which posts are actually the highest voted on reddit even if we don't like the answer.
    [–]Werner__Herzog 326 points327 points328 points  (55 children)
    as a community is represented more and more often in the listing, the hotness of its posts will be increasingly lessened
    Will this have an effect on the hotness over the period of a day or over a longer period? Because this would not only prevent the_D, but also subs like r/funny, r/gaming and r/adviceanimals from dominating r/all.
    [–]spez[S,A] 226 points227 points228 points  (40 children)
    It's just for the specific rendering of the r/all listing. So, it'll affect all communities with r/all itself, but not on the listings for the actual communities. Not sure if I'm answering the question you're asking...
    [–]IranianGenius 241 points242 points243 points  (6 children)
    This sounds like a great way for us to encounter subreddits in /r/all that we haven't heard of before, rather than seeing the subreddits /u/Werner__Herzog mentioned over and over again. This sounds like a fantastic change and a great improvement to the reddit experience.
    I think subreddit discovery and experiencing different communities is paramount to the reddit experience, and the diversity in these communities is what makes reddit special.
    [–]StarBP 28 points29 points30 points  (3 children)
    To rephrase what I think they are saying, does an increased hotness of a given subreddit's posts reduce its presence on /r/all for an instant, or a day, or a year, or what? How long of a "memory" does this feature have?
    [–]GodOfNumbers 43 points44 points45 points  (16 children)
    Am I right in thinking that this will allow smaller subreddits to get more attention in r/all?
    [–]gdshephe88 213 points214 points215 points  (75 children)
    Do these changes only apply to "HOT"? If we go to /r/all/top, will we still see a "true" listing of what is on top of /r/all today/year/hour/etc?
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      [–]spez[S,A] 367 points368 points369 points  (279 children)
      Yes, we'll expose filtering to everyone in the near future.
      In your mind, what's the difference between filtering and blocking?
      [–]chicklepip 327 points328 points329 points  (125 children)
      What effects will filtering/blocking have on the content that actually makes it to /r/all, though?
      I feel like a lot of the /r/the_donald spam largely gets voted up to /r/all because many people who don't want to see it have it filtered out via RES, or via the gold feature. This means that they don't have an opportunity to downvote it, meaning that it's more likely to make it to the front page (edit: Just to be clear, I think that this also probably played into why there were so many /r/sandersforpresident posts in /r/all a while back, too).
      Will having the opportunity to filter content mean that unfiltered /r/all will be even more shitty for non-filter users? What impact will a filtering feature have on people visiting the site for the first time (i.e., people who don't have the shit filters already set up)?
      EDIT: Based on the conversation below: What if certain subs were not allowed to appear in /r/all if a significant proportion of the userbase - say, 15-35% - decides to filter it? This would, at the very least, mean that political subreddits would not appear on /r/all (assuming that people who are opponents of certain politicians filter out those politicians'
      There would obviously have to be certain safeguards put into place, if something like that were enacted. For one, you'd need to ensure that bots aren't being created just to filter certain subs out. Another possible safeguard would be that the group blocking a particular sub aren't just all members of one subreddit in particular, making a concerted effort to get another certain sub kicked out of /r/all.
      [–]omgsooze 24 points25 points26 points  (4 children)
      Not op, but filtering to me feels like I could remove it from showing up in my feed but I'd still be able to view the sub should I choose to go directly to it via url or links. Blocking to me feels as if I can remove it entirely from my reddit experience (wont show up in feed, can't link to it directly, comments containing links to that sub don't hyperlink, etc).
      [–]Stalked_Like_Corn 48 points49 points50 points  (17 children)
      One thing I'd like to see on /r/all is that our filtered subs not be taken into account for the /r/all page. I have /r/the_donald filtered and on my front page of /r/all was exactly 3 items. They're still numbered like 12. 15. 22. But I'd like to see a top 25 of subs I don't subscribe to without massive gaps of subs I don't want to see.
      Also, something I've suggested before and was told "we're looking into doing that" about before was longer mutes on people using modmail. 3 Days, sometimes, is just not enough. We have people who would wait 3 days and message us again and we gotta mute again. Why not let us set a time just like we do on the bans of the sub itself.
      edit
      Thank you for the replies. I get it, RES is doing it, not Reddit. I was confused. Thanks for the replies.
      [–]CoolRunner[🍰] 11 points12 points13 points  (6 children)
      Filter = doesn't appear in all
      Blocking = username mentions also blocked from my inbox. I am harassed constantly by users in /r/wallstreetbets because I disagreed with an awful decision made by a mod. They've set automoderator to tell users to contact me with complaints, which I obviously don't give a shit about. My inbox is bombarded with messages from users in the sub, even after repeated requests to stop doing this.
      [–]smokemarajuana 40 points41 points42 points  (29 children)
      Dude, please, is there a way I can stop /r/nosleep from appearing in my all feed? It does my head in.
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        [–]CaptainKorsos 38 points39 points40 points  (13 children)
        Can we block websites, too? I don't even want to see any Russia today links at all, I'm one of these people who read the headline mostly and move one
        [–]legosexual 15 points16 points17 points  (6 children)
        Simple.
        Front Page = Subscribed
        /r/all = All Subreddits Except for ones you block from /r/all
        [–]Plykiya 9 points10 points11 points  (3 children)
        Filtering a subreddit is not having to see the posts on your front page. Blocking a subreddit is more like getting rid of posts or comments with any mention of said subreddit anywhere you go. A filter isn't as thorough as blocking it.
        [–]nyjets326 766 points767 points768 points  (867 children)
        Do you feel that redditors are increasingly quick to jump to conspiracy theory conclusions when any change is made? Personally I don't support the views of /r/the_donald but why not roll out this change when /r/all was dominated by Bernie Sanders related content? It seems a little opportunist and political to put forth these changes now.
        edit: I also don't support the views of /r/SandersForPresident, I'm not sure why but the replies besides /u/spez seem to imply allegiance to one candidate or another, I just wanted to point out that reddit should look at how this type of issue affects the website throughout its history.
        [–]spez[S,A] 356 points357 points358 points  (715 children)
        Do you feel that redditors are increasingly quick to jump to conspiracy theory conclusions when any change is made?
        Quick? Yes. Increasingly? I'd say they've always been pretty quick.
        [–]Axotl 508 points509 points510 points  (340 children)
        What do you think of his Sanders question? He's got a really good point. People were sick of Sanders spam, people are sick of Donald spam, but you seemed to have ignored the former and overwhelmingly acted against the latter. At the very least, it looks that way. Do you at least feel that Reddit's admins and moderators have a political bias and are struggling to stay neutral? I'm British so I have no dog in this fight but it's really concerning to see. What happens when Tories and Labour subjects start hitting /all and we only see one side overwhelmingly?
        [–]FlashTheSentry[🍰] 130 points131 points132 points  (102 children)
        I mean, you've basically admitted you don't care for /r/the_donald already. This change should have happened much sooner. The fact that it's /r/the_donald that made Reddit act just makes it more suspicious, since you guys were already being accused of censoring republicans. And don't get me wrong, I'm glad change is happening, but it seems this was only done now because more people have a problem with Trump spam, than the Sander's spam due to the democratic bias the Reddit community has.
        [–]XBLTheChin 98 points99 points100 points  (113 children)
        Like fucking seriously guys, stop it. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want Bernie to be president and fix this broken country. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well for California???? This is so fucked.
        [–]rigill 928 points929 points930 points  (1416 children)
        Why was there no problem when sanders for president dominated r/all?
        [–]spez[S,A] 690 points691 points692 points  (1170 children)
        It was a problem. A smaller problem, but still a problem. As I mentioned in my post, r/all has gone through waves of being overwhelmed by a specific community many, many times over the years. Sometimes it's healthy, sometimes it's funny, most of the time it's annoying, particularly during election years.
        [–]IranianGenius 697 points698 points699 points  (203 children)
        I remember when I joined reddit, /r/occupywallstreet was dominating /r/all. It's definitely been a problem of reddit for a while.
        [–]JiggaWatt79 139 points140 points141 points  (63 children)
        Disclaimer: I support many of the issue's that Sanders promoted.
        I too was often tired of seeing the numerous "optimistic" and "highly spectulative" Sanders related posts on /r/all on many instances, despite the fact that he's "my guy". However, from an unbiased stand point, it never reached the levels that the recent /r/The_Donald takeover of /r/all. Offensive titles to-boot, which wasn't typically the case with Sanders posts. It also ebbed and flowed, thankfully, so it wasn't always a constant annoying takeover.
        No matter which way you swing, I don't think most people can equate the levels of annoyingness between these two situations.
        I'd be glad that the affects of the new algorithm would have an impact on aggressive Bernie spam on /r/all.
        [–]binfguy2 244 points245 points246 points  (126 children)
        It seems pretty subjective when specific people decide if something is healthy or not... From an outside perspective S4P dominated the front page for far longer at a slightly lesser extent and there was no backlash against them.
        It still feels like these plays are driven by political motives and not a genuine desire to make reddit great again.
        When you say it was a smaller problem, what criteria did you use to come to this conclusion? It seems like to you personally this wasn't a big issue so you more or less ignored it...
        EDIT: Are there any stats in general? I would love to see stats on how many posts hit /r/all from various subs over time. Then we could finally see if S4P dominated /r/all like some of us think it did and how badly /r/the_donald is dominating it currently.
        [–]enfier 11 points12 points13 points  (5 children)
        The admins should drop the narrative that /r/The_Donald is trying to game the system. The reality is that the sub just hits a tone that resonates with people - it's a fun party and the posts are great. I find myself upvoting there more than anywhere just because I genuinely enjoy the content. There's no conspiracy, no paid shills, it's just fun.
        I'm not sure what is scarier to the admins, that /r/The_Donald is gaming the community or that it represents the genuine sentiment of a large group of redditors. So far you seem to be clinging to the first narrative but perhaps it's just time to accept that you live in the most liberal city in the US and your understanding of what the average American believes and desires is just out of touch.
        By all means, clean up /r/all, but it's time to drop the act. Memes from /r/The_Donald end up on /r/all because people like them.
        [–]Squeagley 146 points147 points148 points  (21 children)
        You dropped these -> _ _
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          [–]spez[S,A] 170 points171 points172 points  (117 children)
          Our changes are community agnostic.
          [–]MartinVanBallin 29 points30 points31 points  (22 children)
          Is the algorithm open source? Or is the reddit.com one different than the one in the opensource version?
          Just curious, because if it's open, that would quell accusations of favoritism.
          [–]Th4tFuckinGuy 522 points523 points524 points  (63 children)
          /u/Spez, I've been a user for the better part of a decade on a different account, and I think I speak for all of reddit's legacy users and even some of the newer ones when I say it's high time we brought back /r/reddit as a place for meta discussion about the site itself.
          ModMail is a cop-out that hides all upper-level discussions from the community, and waiting for /r/announcements to post something relevant to the current issues plaguing this site is only hindering the ability of the community to suggest and promote fixes and upgrades to reddit.
          Give us a place to discuss reddit that is free from one-sided political drama, where we can come together and say things like "Hey, Admins, why aren't you banning whichever mod censored the hell out of /r/news" or "Hey Admins, lets change the algorithm for upvotes so places like /r/the_donald can't game the front page of /r/all" or my personal favorite, "Hey Admins, why haven't you implemented a limit on the number of subreddits a user can moderate and done what you can to enforce it?"
          [–]seanmharcailin 223 points224 points225 points  (16 children)
          I think biggest problem I've seen in the last year is that posts aren't MOVING. So when a post gets to the front page... it just stays there for a whole day. In the past, there was a lot more movement so there was naturally more variety. I would like to see posts moving a bit more quickly, and that would probably help with keeping one dominant voice from becoming so overwhelming.
          [–]tordre 16 points17 points18 points  (5 children)
          It seems to me that a flood of new subreddits could easily defeat this new implementation. If a bunch of people from one sub jump ship to another randomly named sub. since a new subreddit would have a lower mean post value and with a sudden influx of users disillusioned by the old page. Wash rinse repeat, new subreddit for your shitposting everyday, new menace to your /r/all.
          I'm sure you have though of this its the same method fph used, but i mean if you are unhappy with how a sub is run you are encouraged to create your own, and if a different user were to create different don sub a day it would be hard know exactly who to punish, or which ones are genuine and you'd get accused of thought policing when none of them broke any rules yet.
          [–]FinalMantasyX 107 points108 points109 points  (24 children)
          Is this going to do anything about the problem of submissions in the first 2 pages (100 submissions per page) being on /r/all for 20 hours at a time? Or more pages, obviously, but it's most obvious on the first two pages that content does NOT cycle as intended.
          Because when that started happpening, people got mad, and the admin response was "no changes were made to reddit's algorithm you're just imagining it".
          And it's still happening.
          And still terrible.
          Especially now that we have reddit uploads which aren't marked purple by Reddit Enhancement Suite and so we keep accidentally viewing them over and over and oVER AND OVER AND OVER
          Also, I would love to suggest: A category tag for subreddits. It would be fantastic if I could block or promote specific categories. I want /r/all to show me more gaming content than other content, and no sports content, and no NSFW female content. I would love to be able to do that without having to do this.
          [–]ostrich_semen 79 points80 points81 points  (28 children)
          Hey Spez,
          A year ago, someone posted a proof of concept on /r/netsec about successfully vote brigading using a pretty simple stack. See:
          Is there a way we can provide moderators with more transparent data about vote timing, frequency, account age, and other "vote health" metrics, possibly through a moderator-only API call?
          It seems like since vote brigading is becoming a serious issue on Reddit, there should be an effort to increase transparency by providing robust yet anonymized vote health metrics.
          [–]Halaku 447 points448 points449 points  (120 children)
          The changes we are making are to preserve this aspect of r/all—our specific goal being to prevent any one community from dominating the listing. The algorithm change is fairly simple—as a community is represented more and more often in the listing, the hotness of its posts will be increasingly lessened. This results in more variety in r/all. Many people will ask if this is related to r/the_donald. The short answer is no, we have been working on this change for a while, but I cannot deny their behavior hastened its deployment.
          Thank you for straight-up admitting it. That kind of honesty helps build trust between the users and the admins.
          This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
          And thank you for that as well. I've been having to use my phone to check the site on desktop mode until the App supports filtering with gold, just to make /r/all useable. It'll be nice to use it again without having to worry about being drowned out by all the political shenanigans, regardless of one's particular flavor of choice in that regards.
          [–]whatiseverything1 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
          I really truly and deeply hate the new algorithm changes. So what if things I do not agree with get promoted. As long as each vote is fair and counted equally, this is a good thing. When I viewed /all I got a snapshot of what people were interested in at a particular point in time. Most of these post had large numbers of comments, and were usually fairly interesting.
          Now it feels like the posts are more or less appearing randomly. I think I get a better selection of ideas from reading google news. Every other post is a cat image, or some other inconsequential non-sense.
          Say what you will about election posts during an election. People upvoting their views is what is supposed to happen. When the election is over people will move on. This is a good thing.
          Right now reddit feels stale. I do not feel my votes count for anything so I have more or less stopped voting. I have also more or less stopped reading /all because there is 0 interesting content. The thrill of voting to on an article and seeing hit the front page is also gone.
          This site is now boring to me.
          [–]kendallm 13 points14 points15 points  (2 children)
          I'm on mobile and apologize if this has already been mentioned.
          I wish on r/all there was the ability to just block a sub from appearing on the feed without using RES or one of the apps that does it.
          I understand I have total control over what I see on my front page, but that doesn't give me any way to see new subs. Had I just been able to block r/the_donald from appearing on r/all I really wouldn't have cared about what a mess it has been the last few weeks.
          Just a thought. Thanks for the town hall.
          [–]Thefriendlyfaceplant 55 points56 points57 points  (2 children)
          ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else. This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
          Then there's got to be more fair competition between subreddits as well. The /r/news debacle was the result of complacency of mods, complacency that grew because they simply were the first subs to become default and it never changed.
          [–]MauledByPorcupines 43 points44 points45 points  (6 children)
          /u/spez, I appreciate the new algorithm, but would also like to be able to see things that are trending independent of the negative feedback loop, when I want.
          Part of what I enjoy about Reddit is seeing what interesting wave of things is happening recently, which usually manifests in /r/all Hot. So this change ruins part of Reddit for me.
          I think the new algorithm is somewhat useful as a "smorgasboard" view of what's happening on the site, but removing the option to see directly what people are voting on, without the negative feedback loop, is bad. The "trending subreddits" feature is not a substitute for obvious reasons.
          Would it be possible to have both? by making a new category alongside "Hot," "New," "Top," etc? Maybe something like "Current," which is basically the old algorithm?
          Also, is the new algorithm going to apply to /r/front too, or just /r/all? Because if you throw this negative feedback loop onto my front page, it's really going to suck - those are subreddits I want to see more of, on purpose.
          [–]s4embakla2ckle1 46 points47 points48 points  (3 children)
          Honestly, and I say this as one of the thousands who have been banned from the donald by their idiotic mods, I'd much rather we have a discussion about the biased, agenda-driven moderation on your default news sub /r/news, where the mods have routinely blocked discussion around the TPP for over a year now. Why does reddit refuse to do anything about it? I'm much more concerned with the propagandizing mods of r/news than I am with anything the donald is doing.
          [–]CasualRamenConsumer 529 points530 points531 points  (60 children)
          I like that there's more NSFW content on my front page now. Finding all sorts of new subs.
          [–]FractalPrism 38 points39 points40 points  (5 children)
          Reddit should reboot its Moderation system.
          its too easy for people to hold far too many 'mod' powers, with no way to Easily & Quickly boot those people if they are biased or have an agenda.
          Many subreddits are now worse than worthless, WorldNews used to be great, but subs like it are ruled by 'party' talk and too ripe with brigading and other forms of Censorship.
          Mods should not have the power to censor people, unless its a grave issue, like doxxing.
          i just come to reddit for links to other places and for the comments.
          but if the comments are 'sanitized', there is no real discussion other than the 'approved message'.
          this is one of the core incompetancies which makes reddit lose most of its value as Socially Aggregated News Media portal.
          You've let it go on like this for years, so its probably pointless to even bother talking about it.
          I would propose that any "mod" status should 100% expire after a given time, say...one month.
          That way if the person is worth giving that power back to, its an Active choice that the community makes, not some 'squatter seniority'.
          [–]Leo_9 15 points16 points17 points  (6 children)
          I am probably echoing sentiments from elsewhere in the thread, but;
          ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit
          What, exactly, is the difference between dominating a conversation and using the weight of your subreddit's popularity to form a majority rule?
          If you don't want a subreddit with a lot of voting power to frequently rise to the top, then why do upvotes exist in the first place?
          I have never posted on the_donald, I don't like Trump, and his supporters often shit up the subs I do browse.
          That said, even I think this just seems like a case of "democracy, as long as you have the right opinions" - the loudest, most numerous voices naturally dominate any such system and have always dominated Reddit. What is the difference between Bernie's former domination and Trump's current domination? Why is this only necessary now - with hastened deployment, no less?
          If the_donald is somehow unnaturally manipulating or gaming the system, attempt to fix that exploit. Don't respond to 'domination' with your own arbitrary heavy-handed domination right back. Again, why is diverse content only endangered now? Trump supporters are not the first political group by far to dominate Reddit - why was this not necessary during Obama's campaign?
          Oh, and whilst we're on the subject of vote manipulation, unnaturally gaming the system, and so on; how about we talk about the SRS clique, their demonstrable brigading, and their hostile takeovers of other subreddits?
          Everything about this seems wrong. This is the opposite of 'authentic'.
          [–]johndelfino 12 points13 points14 points  (1 child)
          Hey /u/spez/, any chance of metrics representing number of posts in /r/all prior to the change and after the change for major subreddits? It's really hard to wrap your head around a change like this in a vacuum, particularly when you're given qualitative explantation to a quantitative solution.
          [–]bloodfoxtrue 159 points160 points161 points  (59 children)
          My bias aside, I don't think it's a secret the powers-that-be don't like /r/the_Donald, for better or worse. The tone of this post (among the previous) confirms it. But there's a reason why that subreddit has snowballed into something huge, which I dare say is due to admins playing favorites with its mods and the community. They hold some to a high standard, while conveniently turning a blind eye when others brigade, dox, etc. You can spin this however you like, portraying yourselves as having the moral high ground while changing the rules to suit your needs to "protect the community". And hey, maybe you do in some respects. Nonetheless, there is an ideological war going on, for which it seems the admins have chosen their sides. I just wonder if they can really live up to their principles on a consistent basis.
          [–]LazyAardvark 342 points343 points344 points  (80 children)
          Can you do something about mods from one sub banning users for interacting in other subs, that would be cool of you
          [–]BelligerentBacteria 98 points99 points100 points  (12 children)
          I know it may not be "your place" but I am really concerned with what happened at /r/news. It seems like it has faded into /r/MuseumOfReddit already, but the mod culture is really concerning as a user. The fact that one mod told users to kill themselves (and obliterated a thread about a critical event) and wasn't dealt with until 24 hours later and then made a new account to try and reclaim his position is mind blowing. Are you ok with reddit being represented by people like that? If so why, if not why aren't things changing?
          [–][deleted] 297 points298 points299 points  (233 children)
          Many people will ask if this is related to r/the_donald. The short answer is no, we have been working on this change for a while, but I cannot deny their behavior hastened its deployment. We have seen many communities like r/the_donald over the years—ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else. This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
          No, it's not related but yes it is.
          [–]GG_Henry 35 points36 points37 points  (5 children)
          Please for the love of God just allow me to block subreddits without the use of third party softwaree.
          [–]Druidite 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
          .
          [–]Ob101010 96 points97 points98 points  (43 children)
          Interestingly enough, r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes. It seems the rest of the Reddit community had had enough.
          What are your tools for detecting 
          real voting
bot voting
vote brigading
          and other vote manipulation?
          If you have these tools, are they open source?
          [–]SoundOfDrums 3 points4 points5 points  (6 children)
          Rather than browsing /all, I would love to have subreddits grouped so I can browse a large set, or combination of sets all at once.
          For example, if I'm into politics, I add the politics neighborhood, which would include general politics subreddits, specific issue subreddits, and candidate specific subreddits.
          If I'm into games, I get specific game subreddits and general gaming subreddits.
          One big benefit is that you'll get more exposure to other subreddits that you may not normally see, and you won't get totally irrelevant topics to your interests. Such as the bazillion porn subreddits.
          This would be a great substitute for /all that's between all and regular subscriptions.
          [–]adeadhead 351 points352 points353 points  (55 children)
          This explains why brand new subreddits flooded the front page. I adore the new /r/all. A post from /r/dndgreentext even made the cut. Great work.
          [–]TelicAstraeus 183 points184 points185 points  (185 children)
          I an not a huge fan of /r/the_Donald myself, but it can't be denied that they were one of the few subs able to actually get news not only about the Orlando shooting to the front page, but also the censorship on /r/news.
          It seems very strange to me that while a lot of people were upset about this censorship on your selected default, your actions that day were suited only to punish the subreddit actually helping to get the word out, while doing nothing to address trust and responsibility in defaults or to help ensure timely access to breaking news (apart from vague commentary about using /r/live more after a user suggested it).
          It feels disingenuous given the timing to claim the changes you were attempting, including the very poorly thought out move to alter sticky posts, were not intended to affect that subreddit.
          You're coming across as not caring what your users care about. which is fine I guess. but you aren't doing yourself favors when it comes to trust in the reddit team.
          edit: please bring back /r/reddit.com
          edit2: or hell, give us official public moderator logs. or encourage big subreddits to use /u/publicmodlogs
          edit3: you could also do more to promote and organize the usage of multi-reddits. make them able to be subscribed to and give them a subscriber count, add features to make them feel more like subreddits. let them be like mixtapes that eclectic people share, and promote them on the front page like you do trending subs. Here's my latest one for alternative news subreddits, for example: https://www.reddit.com/user/TelicAstraeus/m/newsstuff
          [–]adeadhead 26 points27 points28 points  (2 children)
          How will this affect the ability of breaking news stories to stay atop the front page? That's a not all together insignificant part of reddit's appeal, the ability to keep relevant news in the spotlight while things unfold.
          Could you at least add Reddit stickied live threads to /r/all?
          [–]postuk 34 points35 points36 points  (3 children)
          Why don't we instead have a 'townhall' about the broken moderator structure that has brought great shame on this previously-fantastic community?
          Far too few individuals weird far too great influence and power on Reddit, as was illustrated by the recent behaviour of the /r/news Mods, which has brought great shame on your organisation.
          Please please fix this NOW. It will very soon by too late.
          Kindest regards,
          [–]Firecracker048 83 points84 points85 points  (64 children)
          I have to ask spez. Why did /r/the_donald hasten this process, but other subs like fat people hate(yes I know they were banned) and sanders for president not hasten this?
          [–]nibdenib 221 points222 points223 points  (39 children)
          hi /u/spez, I think everyone knows the short answer is yes to you bringing about changes because of r/the_donald.
          You never did answer, anything, really about the events of the Orlando r/news thread. Your comments were pretty much generic non committal PR whackadoo.
          You claimed to be holding them accountable, and only removed one mod (17k+ posts removed is what I heard, unsure of how accurate). I'm not sure if one person could humanly remove that much content ("oops lol automod out of whack again :^)" ?), and let me ask you directly:
          Why were posts with the mere mention of him being Muslim, or pledging allegiance to ISIS (Which was the best intel anyone had at that time) being removed?
          It would seem you are censoring things that don't fit your view, or at the least allowing your moderating teams to do that. You need to stop being a non committal little pussy and deal with the problem that you are letting fester under your nose, either through ignorance or intent.
          [–]madd74 95 points96 points97 points  (18 children)
          We have seen many communities like r/the_donald over the years—ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else.
          Like when /r/circlejerk pretty much had every top post about James Franco? By the way, do you find it ironic that since /r/The_Donald came out that /r/circlejerk is otherwise rather quiet?
          /r/conspiracy, you're welcome.
          [–]mrshatnertoyou 30 points31 points32 points  (11 children)
          I never use All, I focus on Front to show me what I want. I'll give it a try and see if a lot of the sports and politics subs that monopolize the front page at times are marginalized.
          [–]yousirname89 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
          Is there some way to substantiate or dispel the claims that the_donald has been constantly brigaded while reddit admins do nothing ? All their posts seem to be getting targeted in the New.
          I'm not an American and am tired of the drama this brings to everything but i'd rather not let people orchestrate what info i consume. Right or Left.
          [–]GreyFoxSolid 58 points59 points60 points  (47 children)
          I posted this yesterday but it was removed-
          A lot of you will remember a few years ago when breaking news would happen and you would see it on the front page within an acceptable time frame. Half an hour to an hour, if even that long. Now, I am lucky if I find out about something within five hours, or longer, if I am using reddit as my primary news feed. To me this is unacceptable and is in direct opposition to the reasons I started browsing reddit in the first place.
          In my personal life I went from informing the people around me of stuff that is happening to them informing me and seeing it on reddit, finally, a few hours later. I'm only pointing this out as a benchmark.
          Around the time of the mass subreddit bans, maybe right before this time, I had started to notice this change. I'm not sure if it was some kind of change in algorithm or code or what, but it absolutely needs to be corrected/changed back.
          On that note, moderator interference has gotten ridiculous. Removal of threads and comments and bans and shadow bans. This all contributes to the problem, and this debacle with /r/news proves it. The moderators need to step back and let the users moderate the subs. That is the entire reason the up and down vote arrows exist. If you have a subscriber base in a sub that wants to talk about something, then let them! The votes used to speak for themselves, now they don't, now we have problems.
          TL:DR- change whatever you need to change to make sure the front page is fluid and acceptably updated, force mods to step back and be mods of technical problems and flagrant site abuse and let the users moderate themselves, stop with this quarantine nonsense unless the shit posted in those subreddits is actually against the law, and let's make reddit great again.
          Edit: Also, get rid of this automatic downvote crap. Let the user up and downvote.
          [–]-eDgAR- 41 points42 points43 points  (25 children)
          A couple of mods and I were talking the other day about /r/reddit.com and how it was nice to have a catchall sub like that. I know you've talked about the possibility of getting rid of the defaults or mixing them up. Are there any plans to bring back /r/reddit.com or making a new version of it?
          [–]chicklepip 17 points18 points19 points  (12 children)
          Can you make it a feature of the site to be able to exclude certain subreddits from /r/all? I realize that this is a gold feature, but really, it would be super useful for non-gold-having users.
          EDIT: I thought about this a little bit more after posting it, and have a follow-up to this, which I've already posted above:
          What effects will filtering/blocking have on the content that actually makes it to /r/all, though? I feel like a lot of the /r/the_donald spam largely gets voted up to /r/all because many people who don't want to see it have it filtered out via RES, or via the gold feature. This means that they don't have an opportunity to downvote it, meaning that it's more likely to make it to the front page. Will having the opportunity to filter content mean that unfiltered /r/all will be even more shitty for non-filter users? What impact will a filtering feature have on people visiting the site for the first time (i.e., people who don't have the shit filters already set up)?
          [–]sablon 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
          Hey, /u/spez.
          Not sure if anyone on the admin team is still checking this thread, but I've noticed a HUGE increase in porn subreddits in my /r/all feed since the new algorithm was introduced, and a significant drop in content that I'm actually interested in. With RES, I can filter each subreddit individually, or I have the option to blanket block all NSFW tagged posts (which is really not an ideal situation since many subreddits use the NSFW tag for non-NSFW material). By the time I reach the 3rd or 4th page of /r/all, the number of porn posts that's in my feed is kind of staggering. I've had to filter almost 30 subreddits (the mass of red marked filtered subreddits at the bottom of the list) just today alone to be able to view any actual content on /r/all .
          Is there any plan to be able to filter out porn-specific subreddits without having to blanket filter other subreddits that use the NSFW tag for other purposes (spoilers, etc)? This is getting kind of ridiculous.
          [–]rustymetalshaft 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
          I genrerally browse all/top/hourly, I have noticed a dramatic reduction in all posts that get shown.
          [–]Schiffy94 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
          This doesn't change the fact that many subreddits used stickies for various reasons other than "announcements", and to many, having those stickies be links to other sites (as you can see from the many dissenting comments on the associated /r/changelog thread) is crucial. They link to important pages that the general population of that subreddit wants to see in a stickied post. The affect it has on /r/all shouldn't matter. What should matter is the affect it has on the users of that subreddit. In this regard, this change is taking a huge step backwards by taking away a very basic functionality from moderators. If you're that worried about /r/all, make it so stickies that link to sites outside of reddit or that are anything other than a selfpost do not show up there.
          Removing this functionality and calling it a "feature" is the same thing Skype did when they took away the ability to set custom client-side-only names for group chats when they released version 7.
          The actions of one subreddit "hastened" the development of this change. That right there is admitting that you're letting /r/The_Donald affect the rest of reddit with their shenanigans. That shouldn't happen. I would go so far as to say that's admitting defeat. You, as reddit's administrators, are letting yourselves be manipulated by a sub of less than two hundred thousand people, which is nothing compared to the size of the entire userbase.
          /r/The_Donald (and /r/EnoughTrumpSpam) will stop being relevant in less than five months. Let's try not to act like they're going to outlast every other sub by altering the rules because of their actions.
          [–]IwalkedTheDinosaur 90 points91 points92 points  (29 children)
          Just got back from r/all/rising, and everything was either r/the_donald or r/EnoughTrumpSpam. CAN'T I JUST LOOK FOR PORN IN PEACE PLEASE?!
          [–]Tiny_Trump_Hands 50 points51 points52 points  (8 children)
          Why don't we just remove upvotes/downvotes from stickies?
          [–]zer0nix 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
          We have seen many communities like r/the_donald over the years—ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else. This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
          i certainly hope this does not imply censorship is being considered because...
          Interestingly enough, r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes. It seems the rest of the Reddit community had had enough.
          ...this would imply that reddit is working as intended.
          one of the great killer features of reddit is that each user can customize their experience to their own liking. each user can upvote, downvote, hide and block both users and threads, thus minimizing the need for moderation if not outright eliminating such necessity. EDIT: WHOOPS didn't realize this was a feature of RES. this should be incorporated into the main site.
          i certainly hope nothing is being deleted, silenced or banned by the moderators and administrators of this site.
          i propose a simpler solution:
          in light of the current political atmosphere (yuck), perhaps one way to 'clean up' reddit's image (not that i think it needs to be cleaned up) is for controversial material to be hidden by default and only revealed to users who specifically toggle to view such material, much as nsfw images are hidden by default.
          such would create a segmentation that is user controlled so that each user can curate their experience, not some heavy handed site censor. a 'safe space' will be provided by default and those who wish to view controversial material may do so at their own choosing, and a true plurality of voices may be preserved for those who wish to view it.
          another suggestion is to provide a separate upvote / downvote counter to signal agreement, so that there is no confusion regarding the utility of the existing upvote / downvote system which is designed to signal quality.
          i'm not even a donald fan. i just LOATHE, absolutely LOATHE the very idea of censorship. i feel that a change like this would preserve the basic utility of this site, so that mature content may be viewed by mature adults at their choosing, else this is not truly a site that proffers topics chosen by users for users.
          PS: please quit it with all the pop ups. for example, it used to be that clicking upvote an old topic would immediately bring up a small boxed-in message about the topic being too old, which is a very clean and efficient way to handle this, but now it takes the site a lengthy 5 whole seconds to dim the entire screen before a bright, white popup emerges that takes another entire 1.5 seconds to load completely and then it takes another 5 whole seconds to undim the screen once the user clicks the 'x' or 'agree'. none of this is necessary.
          this is one of the most ugly, consternating and irritating ux design choices i have ever seen, and this behavior is replicated under other conditions as well. nobody has this much time to waste. please revert this design change, thanks.
          [–]Awhite2555 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
          I like it. But would also like to see a "vanilla" /r/all still. On desktop and mobile I've blocked the subs I don't want to see so I've kind of tailored /r/all to how I want it to be. There's more than just the donald subreddit that are annoying. I've removed some game communities, Sanders, politics, and things like that too. It's a weird balance to have to make.
          [–]usernumber36 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
          Can't we just have a feature to blacklist subreddits in the same way we can subscribe to them?
          Subscribing makes stuff appear on the front page. Could just create a blacklisting feature that removes certain subs we choose not to see.
          [–]funchords 11 points12 points13 points  (3 children)
          Two subreddits that I mod have opted out of /r/all because the benefits of belonging to it were lower than the benefits of staying out of it. The people reading /r/all don't know our rules, don't care about our subreddit's culture, and are too low-effort to learn before commenting.
          I think /r/all is really /r/aimlesslybored
          [–]cyanocobalamin 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
          Suggestion:
          How about implementing RES style keyword filters in /r/all?
          I have fast machines on fast connections and often I still see subjects that I filtered before RES has a chance to kick in and remove them.
          [–]ticklishmusic 39 points40 points41 points  (21 children)
          Spez,
          This is a little off topic, but I've noticed that there has been a huge shift in /r/politics in the last two days. For several months it was basically a giant Hillary Clinton hate-fest (and I am a supporter and admittedly biased). All of a sudden, that almost completely disappeared. Is anyone on your team investigating what happened? Since /r/politics is such a large sub, a lot of those posts were in /r/all.
          [–]TunaLobster 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
          How long do the unhot properties last? Subs like /r/spacex would have a flurry of posts that might reach and then nothing until the next launch. Would the posts about the next launch still be considered unhot?
          [–]dwmfives 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
          Is this like the last time you changed the frontpages and all to not show things you don't want seen? Are you gonna backpedal and say you are changing it back while leaving it the same, like last time?
          [–]Shankafoo 19 points20 points21 points  (3 children)
          Eh, been a Redditor for six or seven years on various accounts. Bought gold, did the whole bit to spread the word about Reddit. Problem is, this isn't the site I signed up for.
          I don't mind a little bias as we're all human, but you guys are running "The Front Page of the Internet" like the old sysops from the BBS days. You're not even trying to be fair... It's childish and hypocritical.
          You're going to run your site into the ground, and that's cool. Just like when Digg did the same thing (and the reason I came to Reddit), everyone will find somewhere else to go to. You're the CEO of a business, and you're doing it a disservice. Weren't you supposed to fix this kind of thing? - http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/07/15/reddit-is-ridiculous/#3d6109bd3b2a
          [–]HaMMeReD 7 points8 points9 points  (4 children)
          Maybe you guys should also force reddits to not hide the downvote button. the_donald hides it with CSS, making unrealistic ratios on all posts.
          They are actively abusing the system, and it's part of how they got so rampant on /r/all.
          [–]Mooky79 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
          there needs to be a more formal method of reporting issues with mods, an ability to cite sources and examples, and a transparency in the investigation.
          Currently when there is a problem you just shitpost about it on another sub or something. Then later you get your tinfoil hat when you don't see an enormous and immediate response
          [–]plausible-rationale 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
          Not for nothing, but yesterday I noticed a LOT of porn on /r/all. Not saying there's anything bad about that, but I was seriously wondering what caused it: Was it the kids out of college? Lack of good news on the TV? I couldn't figure it out.
          Any chance the algorithm increased the porn load? (by porn, I mean any and all naked NSFW stuff).
          [–]mermalerm 12 points13 points14 points  (5 children)
          /u/spez I definitely agree with the need for changes but my experience thus far is that now there's a greater number of pictures of naked or half-naked women on /r/all. Current top 100 posts include posts from /r/RealGirls, /r/Celebs (pic of Katy Perry in a bikini), /r/nsfw, /r/asstastic, /r/boobies, /r/celebnsfw, and /r/TittyDrop. So it's not one subreddit that has more of a voice now, but one genre. Perhaps something to consider going forward?
          [–]xenonnsmb 1010 points1011 points1012 points  (248 children)
          inb4 /r/the_donald starts screaming "HE'S LYING! THEY'RE SABOTAGING US!"
          But seriously, thanks for being open about the change.
          [–]zuzahin 500 points501 points502 points  (189 children)
          /r/The_Donald and /r/Circlejerk is more or less one and the same, these days. I welcome this change, and the transparency shown.
          [–]spez[S] 1554 points1555 points1556 points x3 (176 children)
          As a moderator of r/circlejerk, I resent that.
          [–]DFGdanger 130 points131 points132 points  (15 children)
          Wow, even admin shills are mods these days? /r/circlejerk really needs to get back to its roots.
          [–]Rooonaldooo99 564 points565 points566 points  (48 children)
          Who the hell buys the Reddit CEO gold?
          [–]zuzahin 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
          Do we have a problem here? Do we need to take it outside?
          Jokes aside, I remember the sheer spam with James Franco and Jason Segel, it was 20/25 posts from Circlejerk on the All frontpage - it reminds me a lot of what The_Donald is doing now, essentially just filling it up to the brim with useless posts that most people don't care about. I have them blocked with RES, thankfully. I still enjoy /r/Circlejerk, but I don't feel like I need it to dominate the entire 'discussion' of Reddit, as you say.
          [–]Flanman1337 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
          I sometimes forget people browse without RES.
          [–]SoupTyrant 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
          Jesus. No fucking integrity from you people. A sub you disagree with is now doing what a sub you supported was doing for a year and suddenly it's a big problem you're putting an end to? Even in a post that's supposed to be talking about new functionality you dedicated half the post to talking about how much you hate /r/The_Donald.
          You're supposed to be impartial. It's just super shitty to use your power to actively push your agendas on what is supposed to be an open discussion forum.
          [–]FailedTech 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
          Deep down arn't we all mods of /r/circlejerk ?
          [–]stationhollow 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
          You literally admitting to /r/Te_Donald being brigaded (or is it only brigading when it's in a sub reddit you like?) and that its rise hastened our approach to limit their reach. Why are you not enforcing the anti-brigading rules like you did when /r/news was supposedly brigaded?
          [–]pl29 40 points41 points42 points  (2 children)
          At least you openly admit your bias.
          [–]TheBallsackIsBack 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          Dude just pretty much admitted his own post was bullshit with that comment lol.
          Don't personally care much. It's his site, just call a spade a spade
          [–]TheGreatRoh -10 points-9 points-8 points  (14 children)
          And you had no problem with /r/SandersForPresident and /r/Politics articles about Bernie Sanders dominating the page for 6 months. When /r/The_Donald dominated for 2 days, you enact these changes.
          You admit your bias, your fondness for /r/EnoughTrumpSpam and it is clear the political biases of the administration. Previously I had just thought it was the userbase which we had no problem nor did we have any problem with your personal opinions of US politics. When those opinions mix with how this site is moderated, you broke our trust. I am disappointed in you /u/spez , I understood your /r/fatpeoplehate and /r/coontown ban and they were horrible communities. But this is unacceptable.
          [–]variag 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
          The solution they're proposing doesn't seem targeted to any particular subs, but to all content from any sub going forward. That seems fair for everybody; doesn't feel like censorship, nothing new has been banned. The changes they're trying out seem decidedly unbiased, even designed to keep things more fair and /r/all content more diverse. I appreciate that /u/spez was upfront about his bias so that we can critically discuss and analyze the changes with that in mind. But really, I'm not seeing /r/The_Donald being targeted in an unfair way. I'll admit the timing is unfortunate, but there probably isn't a good time to move ahead with this, especially when you consider we're in an election season. There's always going to be a darling of the moment; one candidate or another would have fueled this change. I'd prefer them roll out the best solution they have when they feel like it's ready.
          [–]marius4894 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          The way I see it /r/The_Donald isn't going to be affected "unfairly" and it is definitely going to improve quality of frontpage, but there is almost no doubt that the reason these changes are made is to deal specifically with spam from /r/The_Donald. Which is unfair because they didn't do anything while there was spam about Sanders form s4p, news and politics simultaneously for much longer before. Writing such algorithm may take weeks, but definitely not years. So it means that who is doing the spamming is definitely a factor (and combine it with admin remarks in this thread). In this way admins managed to do a good thing (frontpage improvements) but still be biased assholes about it (selective enforcement).
          To give you real life example of my point: dark streets have been major problem for my town, that caused crime and car accidents. Incompetent mayor did nothing about it for years, because "project was in a making" "no funds" and similar excuses. His daughter got hit by a car very bad, next week there is major lighting construction under way. Now we have proper lights, but what was he doing for past few years?
          [–]MuscleT 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          /r/enoughsandersspam beckons. You get a check from Wall-Arabia for $666 after deleting your emails.
          [Just in case, this is all sarcasm]
          [–]Thedutchjelle 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          I dunno, I have never seen either sanders or trump or politics subreddits reach the /r/all. Is /r/all content regional?
          [–]Ninjaspar10 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
          Two days? Have you been on /r/all for the last few months at all? For those of us living outside the US it's honestly a pain having these posts fill up our front page.
          [–]qew7 -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
          Well as russian now i only see post that says that trump is bad, so the change didnt help at all, and only brought more negativitt
          [–]KisukeSC2 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
          But hey, this isn't about r/The_Donald amirite? Lol.
          [–]Viking83 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          I cannot believe you as head admin would shit on your own community like that. It is in such bad taste, my god.
          [–]Prcrstntr 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          Do think that the rise of /r/The_Donald has led to a decrease in the quality of content on /r/Circlejerk?
          Cause I do.
          [–]Chessfriend90 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
          Wow, openly shown bias. Horrible for a CEO.
          [–]Angry_Gnome -6 points-5 points-4 points  (38 children)
          How come you and your team had no problem when /r/SandersForPresident was dominating the front page?
          [–]MysterManager 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
          Didn't enoughtrumpspam ironically appear around the exact same time the Sander's fans realized no matter how the fluffed him he was done as a candidate.
          [–]hoodie92 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
          Um, no they really aren't. /r/circlejerk is just a joke subreddit. It's 100% jokes and memes. It's just silly shit taking the piss out of Reddit. It's meaningless and harmless.
          Most of the people in /r/The_Donald are absolutely sincere.
          [–]zuzahin 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
          I think I might've been very vague - not on purpose - my bad.
          I meant that they essentially clog up /r/All. Just fills it with posts. S4P and H4P or any other political sub does the same, it's incredibly circle-jerky in nature, akin to the 'mother-sub'. I hope that makes more sense
          [–]ecib 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
          I went in there for the first time because of this post. Holy shit are those people toxic and cuck-obsessed. It's...fucking weird. My theory is that they are all 13-20 year old channers.
          [–]Beepbeepimadog 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
          Political subs tend to be extremely circlejerky.
          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          There's actually a lot more circle-jerking going on here at reddit, but it's hard to see that it's a circle-jerk when all you're looking at is the other guy's dick.
          [–]horoblast -1 points0 points1 point  (5 children)
          So silencing others is OK? Okie doke.
          [–]Agastopia 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
          How in the fuck is the Donald subreddit being silenced? Jesus, the victim mentality of you guys has no bounds.
          [–]horoblast -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
          Hahahahaha okie doke.
          [–]zuzahin 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
          'Silencing' is not equal to letting everyone have a voice.
          [–]horoblast 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          That is correct.
          [–]LarryLarge -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
          Shout louder.
          [–]outroversion 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          As a moderator of /r/circlejerk I take that as a compliment
          [–]gregny2002 70 points71 points72 points  (12 children)
          Is it just me or is there a lot more porn on r/all now? Not that I'm complaining.
          [–]BryanJEvans 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
          Yeah it feels like it to me. Like a lot of different not popular porn subreddits
          [–]adeadhead 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
          Most of the popular ones it looks like. The ones you don't see, like /r/gonewild, have themselves excluded from /r/all via a subreddit setting.
          [–]SomeonePrivate 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
          This gave me an idea. Seperate nsfw posts from /r/all so nsfw doesn't show up there. But then, create a nsfw all that people can go to to see the most pivoted nsfw posts.
          [–]EndMeetsEnd 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
          I have my preferences set to under 18 to weed out the nsfw (I am over 18.) Stuff still gets through. Not sure if the entire sub the post is coming from or individual posts have to be labeled nsfw to prevent it from showing up on r/all. I've seen up close boobs, dicks, cum shot thumbnails on r/all that made it past the filter.
          [–]mrjotaieb 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
          /r/the_donald dominated to a degree the the porn couldn't even hit /r/all, since porn usually occupies the lower pages. Once it was getting downvoted the porn returned.
          [–]Mekroth 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
          I certainly see more from made and real girls on the front, but gone wild used to regularly hit the top and I never see that happening anymore.
          [–]lilTyrion 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
          it's literally the only thing they could think of that would ballon upvotes on the reg to compete with trump. tits bay bee
          [–]Firecracker048 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
          He did say the short answer is no, but then says it had an influence. So the longer answer is yes that it did play a role
          [–]ULN515 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
          inb4 /r/the_donald starts screaming "HE'S LYING!
          What? He just admitted he's targeting /r/The_Donald.
          [–]rubber_chicken_sex 6 points7 points8 points  (3 children)
          You know I actually really support Trump, but I can't stand /r/the_donald, I was convinced a long time ago it's just /pol/ shitposting.
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            [–]digital_end 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
            inb4
            You could never, NEVER, be in before they get triggered.
            [–]Zazenp 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
            Until this very moment, I had always assumed that subreddit was a parody sub. Every time it showed up I thought it was a joke, a well crafted one. Satire and real life have apparently merged.
            [–]WhyNotPokeTheBees 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            It did start as a form of satire. But it grew beyond that.
            Then again, it's Spook 101 that the fastest way to delegitimize a troublesome movement isn't to refute it, but to join it and push its message into extremism.
            [–]MiscReddit 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
            Funnily enough no subs but there enjoys "safe spaces" so much
            [–]Mcfooce 1 point2 points3 points  (9 children)
            nope, sure no brigading going on here. The Donald is downvoting its own new posts to 50%
            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
            You're equally upset that The_Donald is currently brigading /r/enoughtrumpspam I assume? Because the same shit is happening over there. And at shitredditsays, but apparently its okay for The_Donald to brigade them for months cause everyone hates them.
            [–]Nogoodsense 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            So you're not denying t_d is getting brigaded nonstop for months?
            [–]Mangalz -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
            A sub designed to brigade the_donald that the admins will do nothing about?
            Why should we care if the brigadiers get brigaded?
            [–]jackjt8 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Fight fire with fire. I like it.
            [–]Agastopia 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
            Cool. Same thing with the Clinton sub and the Bernie sub.
            [–]fakepostman -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
            I imagine you had no problem with the nimble navigators systematically upvoting literally every single post there. So what's wrong with rational people doing the opposite?
            [–]Mcfooce 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
            They are upvoting posts in their own sub.
            as opposed to people coming to their sub for the sole intention of downvoting.
            That is literally what a brigade is, you know this?
            [–]CharlesManson420 -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
            Exactly like the way you guys brigade SRS and EnoughTrumpSpam, we get it.
            [–]Nogoodsense -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
            T_d has policy against linking to other subs.
            If there is brigading going on that originates from t_d, it is only individuals acting alone.
            Bear in mind that apparently "brigading" now means "participation from individuals we don't like".
            SRS, SRD, ETS all exist specifically to deride and brigade subs they dislike.
            Surely you can tell the difference here.
            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (10 children)
            No need for accusations. He explicitly admitted that this is because of the Donald
            [–]CharlesManson420 5 points6 points7 points  (9 children)
            Can you trump supporters read? He explicitly said this plan had been in action for a long time but the recent outburst of "SEND THIS TO /r/ALL BOYS" from the_Donald made them put it into action sooner.
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              [–]mwhite1249 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
              It seems that when I first joined Reddit news articles tended to cycle quickly and new stories continued to percolate to the top throughout the day, so the content was always fresh. Now it seems that articles stay in the top few pages, sometimes for several days. I don't consider them to be 'news' after I've seen them a few times when what I really want is for those pages to refresh and be replaced by more current and relevant articles.
              Perhaps we could have articles that hit the top few pages get cycled out to another section after a few hours, so new stories can find their way to the top.
              And I do agree about r/all -- I don't want to see the same sub getting 5 to 8 articles per page, even if it's one of my favorite subs. Perhaps you could simply limit the number of times articles from any particular sub hits the top few pages of r/all. That way more content would have the opportunity to find its way to r/all.
              I've started clicking the Random button just so I can find more content that may never make it to those cherished top spots. I would love to see a whole page of random posts from different subs. That way I find out about subs I would not otherwise know exist, and also get a broader experience of what Reddit has to offer.
              I'm not convinced that voting is a good way to control all content. It seems like it would be easy for someone to game the system to either bury good content or force one-sided posts much higher in the ratings that they deserve. When someone creates a bot to do that, or has a fleet of low paid interns in India with fake accounts up or down voting content, they are gaming the system for their own purposes.
              [–]OwenRey 3 points4 points5 points  (4 children)
              Just looked at /r/all/rising and found that the first 107 posts were from /r/the_donald... is that a glitch?
              [–]GhostOfJebsCampaign 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
              It's the most active subreddit on Reddit.
              They also dominate Controversial.
              [–]redefining_reality -3 points-2 points-1 points  (2 children)
              It's because it's the content people actually want to see.
              Censorship tells you what to think.
              Votes tell you what other people are thinking.
              [–]OwenRey 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
              I mean I just have a hard time believing there's not 1 post that is rising better than 107 from /r/the_donald. Nothing to do with censorship.
              [–]Reddisaurusrekts 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
              No - but there's a difference between wanting to see something, and wanting it enough to upvote it. It's really the fault of everyone else, not the fault of The_Donald users. I'm guilty of this too - how often do you see an interesting or just relevant post in /r/all or even on the Front page, and click through/comment/etc, without upvoting it?
              [–]Macohl 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
              Spez,
              And/Or, and/or, and/or... Why not give everyone the ability to filter /all? I've only learnt just recently that filtering /all is part of Reddit gold. I'm sure there were/are many like me, including people with gold, that still are not aware of this feature. I don't suspect this will impact Reddit gold profits considering it is used mainly as a "I like your post/comment" gift. And even if it does, the potential for ad revenue outweighs the possible loss from removing the aforementioned feature from gold; subreddits like The_Donald will be incredibly mad with these changes (see their reaction after the earlier change this week) and will eventually leave to competitor websites, such as voat. They are an incredibly big community of content creators and even despite their controversy, losing them would result in the loss of lots of posters and lurkers. Therefore revenue would be lost.
              So why not put the community before profits? Given how poorly the Pao regime went and the terrible comments you made about our secrets, I firmly believe that many of us are losing trust in this company. So why not regain my trust, our trust, and finally put the community first?
              I don't really expect a response from Spez, although I wish for one. Truthfully I'm in no place to speak for the community so let me know your thoughts.
              [–]tenparsecs 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
              losing them would result in the loss of lots of posters and lurkers. Therefore revenue would be lost.
              Spez, like many leaders in social media, are increasingly putting their moral politics before any kind of business acumen. The psychological effect of seeing opposing politics becomes too strong for them to ignore or deal with rationally.
              That's why you have public media pundits have embarrassing twitter meltdowns at egg account trolls and shitposters, or journalists frequently shutting down comments in a big huff and turning increasingly radicalized in their ideology. Or just look at any forum moderator or admin drama. They all get unstable after a while. They're not thinking about revenue, or being some sane rational media voice. They're now all just hyper-politicized wrecks waiting to explode.
              Major media sites are also turning more and more towards certain practices and "content curation" leaning towards one left-center-leaning ideology in particular. The holes left in their wake are quickly filled up to the brim with massively concentrated activity from the now-neglected demographics - ie. the_donald, Breitbart, Milo, etc. You would think one would want to reap revenue form ALL those demographics, but in a politicized market, even the most all-powerful all-encompassing companies cannot find a way to do it. So they shed them aside because it's the "correct" thing to do, which will get them lots of PR headlines from the unstable ideological media journalists and authorities in the third paragraph.
              Which is half of the reason spez will delete The_Donald within 5 months.
              The other half being, the stuff in the third paragraph.
              [–]flanndiggs 284 points285 points286 points  (84 children)
              I'd say this place has bigger problems right now than r/the_donald. A complete overhaul on mod power and activity should be where you''re spending your energy.
              [–]anon445 97 points98 points99 points  (17 children)
              Why did I have to scroll so far to see someone mentioning this? /r/news should've been removed as a default the next day. They'll never fuck up that bad again, and we'll be stuck with a precedent of them never being held responsible.
              [–]migvazquez 25 points26 points27 points  (8 children)
              Let us not forget: the worst terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 was actively censored by Reddit
              As /r/news is given default status by Reddit itself, they are culpable, not just merely the subreddit
              Edit: y'all can stop commenting about OKC and 9/11. My edit was stuck in limbo. I don't have the best data plan
              [–]GhostOfJebsCampaign 18 points19 points20 points  (1 child)
              Let us not forget: the worst terrorist attack on US soil was actively censored by Reddit
              And instead of addressing that bullshit, the admin comes out with snark against /r/The_Donald.
              [–]-HarryManback- -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
              Nevermind all of that nonsense that occured, let me redirect your attention to why /r/The_Donald is so terrible that we changed the algorithm. We were totes gonna change the algorithm before when other subs had "attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit" but only just got around to doing it now. Nope, not a coincidence at all.
              Nah, forget that it was one of the only places on reddit (popular enough to get to /r/all at least to reach users, guessing that /r/Ama thread had some "wrongthink" the mods cleared up) where the users could openly and freely talk about the attack and anything and everything related to it.
              [–]1234whospunk 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
              Let us not forget: the worst terrorist attack on US soil was actively censored by Reddit
              Yeah, that was totally fucked, but what about 9/11? Pretty disingenuous.
              [–]BobLoblaw33 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
              Um, 9/11. Oklahoma City (168 people).
              [–]shadowbanByAutomod 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
              The OKC bombing was in the 90s so pre-9/11.
              [–]Peeetz -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
              Orlando was worse than 9/11?
              [–]jataba115 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
              Since it says now
              [–]TheBallsackIsBack 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
              Dude we have to get down to real business!! Don't worry about SRS subverting news aggregates!! We have to keep pro Trump content from dominating the front page!
              [–]KairoPlays 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
              Because r/the_donald is hot fresh from the oven to rag on
              [–]cocobandicoot 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
              Or just get rid of defaults all together.
              [–]anon445 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              I'm on board with that, but that's understandably a process that requires more thought and time. Removing a single sub as a default after such a shameful display shouldn't take long at all.
              [–]TheBigPoochowski -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
              Probably because the redditards are making a way bigger deal out of that than it actually is.
              Mods of subreddits can have whatever power they want. That's how this whole thing works. Guess what popped up after the /r/news disaster? /r/UncensoredNews came along. That's how this cookie crumbles.
              [–]anon445 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
              And news is still a default, while uncensored news prob has less than 20k subs
              [–]TheBigPoochowski -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
              So? You can go wherever you want for news.
              I, personally, didn't care for the so-called "censorship." The thread was removed for whatever reason and the rest of reddit picked up the slack.
              Or get your news from actual news sites. That's probably the better option.
              [–]anon445 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Now I see what you meant by redditors making too big a deal. We simply have different priorities than you, and that's OK.
              [–]Mister_Jay_Peg 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
              They can't work multiple issues at the same time?
              "Gosh, I'd really love to work on that new UI, but I have to have 100% of my resources tied into this single other issue that must take every man-second of labor we have."
              [–]Negranon 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
              No apparently they can't because they won't admit that /r/news has any issues. Go look at the last announcement and tell me they're working on it.
              [–]DAEFlair 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
              considering new mod tools and RES features have been promised for years, no. It doesn't seem like they can.
              [–]ItalyForTrump 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Apparently the can not.
              [–]spyd3rweb 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
              Suggestions:
              Once a post gets so many upvotes it can't be removed for any reason except by admins, threads can't be locked until they're x days old, default subs must have an admin as the senior moderator, mods must have at least a 1 year old reddit account, no one may moderate more than 3 subs with 10000 users or more, and no more than 10 total, Rule breaking comments aren't deleted only hidden, completely transparent modlogs, mods cannot be inactive for more than 90 days, a 3 strikes system where mods must issue warnings and temp bans to users before perma banning them, if you are a mod of /r/news you should be shadowbanned.
              [–]MisterScalawag 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Once a post gets so many upvotes it can't be removed for any reason except by admins, threads can't be locked until they're x days old,
              completely transparent modlogs,
              i'm sorry but several of these suggestions while well meaning are literally terrible. Those first ones would be abused to shitpost to a level even greater than the_donald was doing. Completely transparent modlogs can and have been used to dox people, it happened over on Voat
              [–]Lurlur 0 points1 point2 points  (7 children)
              That would kill reddit.
              [–]Eustace_Savage 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
              Reddit staff are doing a fine job of that already.
              [–]Lurlur 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
              You do know that you can just leave, right?
              [–]Eustace_Savage 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
              I'm happy to stay knowing it upsets you.
              [–]Lurlur 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
              You over estimate you own importance. I was merely pointing out an option. I'm unlikely to ever encounter you on here again so staying or leaving had no affect on me.
              [–]Eustace_Savage 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
              If I'm so unimportant you wouldn't have taken the time to respond and then a second time as you've just done.
              [–]Lurlur 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
              Don't mistake my boredom for your importance. I reply to tonnes of people all the time. Often just to point out how stupid they are, like in your case.
              [–]Eustace_Savage 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Whatever you say pal. I'm enjoying your attention.
              [–]RedThela -4 points-3 points-2 points  (37 children)
              So you're suggesting that /r/all should remain 25% trump for the next 5 months? Please no.
              [–]randomevenings 6 points7 points8 points  (34 children)
              So you're suggesting that /r/all should remain 25% trump for the next 5 months?
              It's not like they cheated to get there.
              [–]candynipples 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
              Subscribers who upvote nearly everything that a sub pumps out for months at a time isn't cheating, but it's tacky. I love basketball, it's why I'm subbed to r/nba , but I don't blindly upvote everything in that sub. Even if I mildly enjoy all the content on that sub I still use my upvotes in a way that separates the best content from the stuff that isn't quite as good, even though I still may enjoy all of it.
              The junk on r/the_donald isn't the most liked content on Reddit, it's simply that the users of that sub have a very low threshold for what gets their upvote when in that sub. It has become part of their culture.
              [–]RedThela 9 points10 points11 points  (6 children)
              It kinda doesn't matter. If the entire viewer base of GoT made their home on reddit and all actively participated by upvoting, /r/all would be dominated by GoT posts. I'd say the same thing in that scenario - it makes /r/all less useful/interesting, so do something to change it.
              [–]WolfHitzer -3 points-2 points-1 points  (5 children)
              It makes it less interesting to you. Not to the thousands of people upvoting it. If it's not interesting- downvote it, that's why we have downvotes. The problem with Reddit is half of the users don't want to grow a pair, including its main admin, u/spez.
              [–]RedThela 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
              No, the problem with reddit is the 1% rule which means the majority of users don't participate, they just consume. Though I guess you're putting that under "[not wanting] to grow a pear"?
              I'm getting a vague implication from your post that "if reddit doesn't want to see posts from the_donald then they should downvote and we'd be fine with it". From OP: "r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes"...and the_donald reacted to that with a post (that, of course, hit /r/all) about 'admins automatically applying 20-30% downvotes to all posts'. As we can see now that was complete rubbish because the admins were working on a completely different change which has been announced in this thread. You can't act all innocent and say "the voting system works" with one breath and then "we're being downvoted, censorship!" with the next.
              [–]WolfHitzer -5 points-4 points-3 points  (2 children)
              Your implications are even more vague than mine. the_donald was getting downvotes as a result of brigading. But u/spez wants to conceal it as "huurrrr durrrr redditors speaking up!!!". No. Our sub got 20k+ subs overnight the other day, and that is not a vague implication, like yours.
              [–]RedThela 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
              the_donald was getting downvotes as a result of brigading
              I am 100% sure that there are some users who sit in /new of the_donald and downvote everything (as with many polarising subreddits). But
              a) I think you're way overestimating the effect of brigaders. That post I linked above was on ~75% at ~950 point when I visited /r/all (and rose some more from there). It's now on 52%. Seems pretty likely that the change came from voters on /r/all, supporting spez's statement.
              b) The post I linked talks about admin conspiracy, not brigading.
              Let's do a thought experiment, just for my curiosity. Let's say for the sake of the argument that the post I linked got 45% downvotes from 'general reddit population' and 3% from people sitting in 'new' (that we accept as an inevitability). What kind of proof would you require to accept this? The ideal would be for an admin to do a breakdown on where the users were when they downvoted (e.g. /r/all, /r/the_donald new queue (i.e. brigader), /r/the_donald main page as some examples off the top of my head) and post the percentages - would you agree that this would be acceptable ideal evidence? Unfortunately 1) I think it's probably an unrealistic amount of effort to expect, given that it would require log analysis and 2) it seems pretty clear that you don't trust spez enough to believe his analysis anyway. So what do you think would be both realistic to expect and acceptable to the_donald users evidence?
              [–]U_WANNA_GET_JAMMD_UP 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Yesterday, people put up pictures of posts they had just made with 0 upvotes or were in the negatives, but said 24% upvoted, etc., meaning that yes - there was a shitload of brigading that had nothing to do with /r/all.
              Any post from the sub that reaches /r/all will have been downvoted countless times before people from /r/all start downvoting it.
              But of course, the Reddit admins could care less about brigading when it happens in subs they don't like, and in fact, are perfectly fine with it when places like SRS do it.
              [–]noPENGSinALASKA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Pair*
              But yea.
              [–]MannoSlimmins 12 points13 points14 points  (4 children)
              Before the sticky changes:
              Step 1: Sticky something retarded
              Step 2: Wait for it to be upvoted and reach /r/all
              Step 3: Unsticky
              Step 4: Go to Step 1
              [–]randomevenings -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
              Who votes for stickies? It's already at the top of the sub.
              [–]MannoSlimmins 12 points13 points14 points  (1 child)
              Oddly enough, lots of people. When we stickied mod applications in /r/canada it was upvoted so highly we could have unstickied and it would have stayed at the top
              [–]randomevenings 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
              People are weird.
              [–]MisterScalawag 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              the_donald when trying to abuse the system to make /r/all 90 percent of their posts.
              [–]Juz16 9 points10 points11 points  (5 children)
              They didn't cheat, but they abused the fact that stickied posts got to the top of /r/all because of the fact that new votes are worth more than old votes
              [–]2pacolyps -4 points-3 points-2 points  (4 children)
              No matter what the Donald sub will still rise, it's the most active sub on the site. Sure the sticking of post helped get more post on r/all than if they weren't stickied but there will still be plenty of post that make it to the top. Edit: downvoted for the truth, you guys would make great mods over at r/news.
              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
              They literally would sticky a post, wait until it got enough votes, unsticky, and repeat. It's blatant vote manipulation.
              [–]2pacolyps 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              If it was blatant vote manipulation why didn't the sub get banned or something to that degree?
              [–]bored_nerd 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
              I'm pretty sure the overwatch sub is the most active on the site
              [–]2pacolyps -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              No, it's the r/The_Donald. I know that may upset some people but it's the truth. http://redditlist.com/all
              [–]MisterScalawag 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              It depends on your definition of cheated. Did they do something that no subreddit can do? No. Did they willfully and purposefully abuse sticky posts to game the system and push content to /r/all ? Yes, yes they did.
              [–]kirkum2020 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
              They refer to /r/all in many of those posts, or word them as a message to non-trumpettes.
              That's calling for votes, aka vote manipulation/brigading.
              They've been warned for it already. Only the pretence of being a political sub is keeping them here at this point.
              [–]Ritley -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
              That's not vote manipulation or brigading. Brigading is directing members of one sub to vote on another sub to tank their votes.
              Vote manipulation is using bots or multiple accounts to artificially inflate/deflate vote counts
              [–]kirkum2020 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
              It doesn't matter which sub you're in.
              Asking for votes, even indirectly, is against the rules.
              From the reddiquete page list of don'ts:
              Hint at asking for votes. ("Show me some love!", "Is this front page worthy?", "Vote This Up to Spread the Word!", "If this makes the front page, I'll adopt this stray cat and name it reddit", "If this reaches 500 points, I'll get a tattoo of the Reddit alien!", "Upvote if you do this!", "Why isn't this getting more attention?", etc.)
              [–]Diknak 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
              It's not like they cheated to get there.
              They did . . . that's the problem. They specifically acted in a way to bombard /r/all.
              [–]Negranon -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
              lol they voted for posts a lot, what fucking cheaters
              [–]Diknak 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
              it's called vote manipulation. . .
              [–]Negranon -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
              hey check it out, i'm manipulating the votes by upvoting you, how'd i do that?
              [–]ragnarokrobo -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
              Thousands of individual redditors voting? MUST BE BRIGADING AGAIN, TIME TO BAN AND THREATEN THOSE THAT DISAGREE WITH US
              [–]UncleMeat -3 points-2 points-1 points  (4 children)
              One of their mods was just banned for vote manipulation. So....
              [–]randomevenings -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
              Exactly. The system worked. He fucked up and got banned.
              That doesn't take away the fact that /the_donald is the 2nd most active subreddit on all of reddit, only behind /askreddit. As such, it makes sense for it to be a significant part of /all.
              EDIT: I want to say that I'm not complaining that /all will have more shit to see now, but it's absurd to say /the_donald was unfairly represented. They got there fair and square.
              [–]candynipples 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              How do they calculate how "active" a subReddit is? Through votes? Comments? Number of posts?
              [–]Ritley -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              And yet not a single thing is done to subs that regularly and blatantly dox and brigade others. selective enforcement of the rules is basically the same as banning people for no reason
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                [–]chicklepip 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
                Regarding the sticky situation:
                Why not make two separate categories of posts: stickies, and announcements.
                Any post, by any user, can be made into stickies. They can be text posts, links, pictures, or whatever. They will be stickied to the top of a subreddit, but will not show up in /r/all.
                Announcements can only be made by moderators, and can only be text posts. These can show up in /r/all.
                This way, sports threads, breaking news, etc. threads can make it to /r/all, where they rightfully should be (as announcements), and communities can still make use of stickies, sans the /r/all abuse we've seen in the past with subreddits like /r/the_donald.
                What do you think?
                [–]Mile129 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                um, so when is this rolling out? the_donald is still the only posts in r/all 'rising'. That's what I check out when I want to see what people are talking about. 'hot' is great but it's not the latest stuff. the_donald is ruining 'rising'.
                [–]N6TJA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                If stickies are only for announcements, how about making them so they can't be upvoted? That way only people who were intended to see them will.
                [–]wrayjustin 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
                So now that the /r/all algorithm is changed, are you going to revert the newly imposed limitations on stickies announcements?
                As you saw from the outcry, many subreddits are negativity impacted by those limitations.
                [–]snowplusbrd 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                the subreddits with NSFW content sure haven't been negatively impacted by the new algorithm. More prevalent in the top 300 than ever
                [–]Nerosquito 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
                Disappointed you didn't title this "Let's all have a town hall about r/all, y'all."
                [–]manachar 12 points13 points14 points  (10 children)
                RES has a filter capability that has been the saving grace of /r/all for me. Seems that such filtering would be a great addition to Reddit and would give you great information on what people hate.
                For instance, I used to downvote every /r/The_Donald post I could (unless it actually wasn't odious), but it felt like pissing on a house fire - pretty useless. I just couldn't take reading their crap any more as it was seriously messing up my ability to enjoy humanity.
                So then I (and many others) filtered the sub. Once filtered I was no longer providing downvotes, but lots of filtering it could be seen as a reason to not be on /r/all.
                It seems like this algo change could be problematic for subs that regularly (or at least should be regularly) have big news that should be on the front page. Things like /r/news, /r/worldnews, etc. But I suspect you've already got some data on that.
                [–]MuseofRose -2 points-1 points0 points  (2 children)
                For instance, I used to downvote every /r/The_Donald post I could (unless it actually wasn't odious), but it felt like pissing on a house fire - pretty useless. I just couldn't take reading their crap any more as it was seriously messing up my ability to enjoy humanity.
                You literally didnt have to read it. I dont understand this....unless youre a masochist you can do what I do when I checkout /r/all and see subs i dont like/know for. Skip them. Or click the hide button.
                [–]manachar 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
                On /r/all you have to at least read the headlines.
                I wanted to stay informed on the candidates and their supporters. Eventually that's why I filtered it with RES, but the downvote button exists for a reason and its supposed to be used. The content on /r/The_Donald was odious to me and not something I wanted to see more off.
                This isn't about disagreeing with a point of theirs. This is about the vitriol and shitposting and trolling. This is about the lies and untruths they were spreading.
                I did the same with fatpeoplehate, coontown, all the anti-ellen pao subreddits (mind you I was happy to see her leave), etc. Some people want reddit to be like that, and I'm voting with my downvote to say I reject it.
                [–]MuseofRose 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                On /r/all you have to at least read the headlines.
                If reading the headline affecting you I dont know what to tell you... I understand it's a circlejerk and circlejerking is annoying but Ive never lt /r/4chan or /r/Circlejerks shitposting bother me to the point of a headline. _(ツ)_/¯
                [–]Crezek -10 points-9 points-8 points  (6 children)
                you just confessed to brigading. Idiot
                [–]Ixilary 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
                Or he's just downvoting posts he doesn't like... which is a pretty simple reason to downvote. It just so happens that posts from /r/the_donald usually fit into that group. It's no different than /r/the_donald subscribers upvoting everything from their sub.
                [–]browsermostly 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                brigade
                noun: brigade; plural noun: brigades
                a subdivision of an army, typically consisting of a small number of infantry battalions and/or other units and forming part of a division.
                an organization with a military or quasi-military structure.
                a group of people with a characteristic in common.
                Please explain how one dude downvoting lots of posts is brigading.
                Idiot
                [–]manachar 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
                I encouraged no one else do to so and found each post I downvoted worthy of a downvote. The messages were almost all inane, toxic, and insulting to humanity.
                [–]throwthisawayrightnw 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                You just confessed to not knowing what brigading is. Idiot.
                [–]DAMusIcmANc -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
                You got to understand. It was affecting his humanity!
                [–]2pacolyps -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
                Couldn't enjoy life anymore because of a sub on reddit. lol
                [–]dc8291 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
                If you're sick of seeing r/the_donald posts then create a content filter for it. I did this and it was VERY refreshing.
                [–]fearjunkie 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
                Tutorial? Plz?
                [–]dc8291 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                I only know how to do it on the Alien Blue app, where you go to Settings --> Posts --> Content Filter --> Add Filter; then type in r/The_Donald.
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                  [–]Extertionist 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                  I blocked The_Donald because shitposts should not make up a third of the front page. Wouldn't mind seeing only a couple things from there to keep up though. Hopefully things will get better.
                  [–]thatguyyouworkwith 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
                  I understand that this change helps with communities that try to overtake the front page but I'm wondering what could be done for subs that by design have intentions to discuss huge spoilers. Some examples are /r/fuckolly (twice) and soon /r/cleganebowl, as well as troll subreddits such as the Star Wars flair in /r/4chan.
                  There's a subreddit option to remove from the default /r/all set. Would such an option get better enforcement, such as the force change to make subredddits with too many NSFW posts become by default NSFW?
                  [–]EtherBoo 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                  Not sure how much this relates to your post, but here we go...
                  A big complaint I often read about /all is that content is voted on without context of the subreddit. Many people attribute this to the reason why /wtf feels more like at times /im14andthisisfunny - the content is good and usually interesting, but completely wrong for the context of "What the fuck". Most of the times the top posts even explain exactly "What the fuck" is happening in the image, but because it's a good gif/video/picture, it gets upvoted to the top through /all as opposed to people visiting the sub and voting. That's just one example, but there are MANY other subs that people attribute this to.
                  With that in mind, are there any plans to do something about this? Like maybe weigh votes through /all much lighter than a vote directly through the sub, kind of like how supposedly going through a users profile and voting on every post they've made doesn't count unless it's done in the thread directly.
                  Either way, I don't know how true either claim is, but I see it mentioned whenever the conversation comes up. Has you/reddit thought about doing anything with regard to this theorized effect?
                  [–]Slurmeee 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                  I just want a way of blocking a subreddit from MY /r/all feed. Especially being an Australian I couldn't care less about every Political post I see on /r/all not just that I just find a lot of the really popular subs dumb but they also flood /r/all and would love to block them MY feed.
                  I don't know if it's possible with RES but I use reddit on my mobile a lot anyway
                  [–]yourecreepyasfuck 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                  Well sorting the comments to new in this thread and I'm seeing a lot of negativity. But I for one would just like to say that I think this change is definitely moving in the right direction. I can finally browse r/all again and find some genuinely interesting posts. The type of shit that I originally started coming to Reddit to see. Ever since the election season started I felt as though this entire website had become one giant Bernie/trump/hate Hilary circle jerk. r/all was almost exclusively related to political topics and the comment sections all seemed to be either trolls or people with insane bias and tunnel vision. And even when the occasional non-political topic reached the front page, the comments were still full of unrelated political circle jerks.
                  r/all looks incredibly different today and that is a GREAT thing. I thought this website had finally died, but now I see that the same posts I used to come to this site for were still there. They were just being buried by the insanity
                  [–]Architonic 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
                  /r/all/rising remains mostly blank pages followed by more blank pages once the_donald is filtered out. Is this something that will be addressed in the future?
                  [–]redefining_reality 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
                  That's what happens when the pages are populated by raw data based on what the site wide user base is looking at
                  [–]Architonic 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                  Thanks for the explanation. I have a small understanding of how the changes made to /r/all work, but the rising post algorithms have always struck me as voodoo-derived.
                  [–]Bullshit_To_Go 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                  I'm not liking the new algorithm at all. I have many subs filtered in RES, and /r/all used to show me endless content from non-filtered subs. Now I get 4-5 pages in and there's nothing except a message that all posts have been removed by my filters. I'm pretty sure there's more than 5 pages of content on all of reddit.
                  [–]abovethecurve 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                  I really like the 'live' threads that pop up for big current events. Is there any way to add commenting to them so no single subreddit controls news coverage for really big events?
                  I'm thinking maybe a combination of selected admins/mods help moderate the live comments for that event based on the subject.
                  [–]socsa 23 points24 points25 points  (58 children)
                  So the obvious "exploit" to this is going to be /r/the_donald just spinning up a bunch of new subs and using a multi-reddit to do exactly what they were doing previously. Their mods are already not-so-subtly hinting that this is what they intend to do.
                  Without giving too many details away [lol], my plan is to use diversity to create and promote a lot of new shitlord subreddits.
                  Do you guys have a contingency plan for this?
                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points  (49 children)
                  So basically your question is, how are you going to consistently suppress my political opposition?
                  This change was supposed to occur independent of the Donald, not because of it. The funny thing is if it somehow manages to retain a presence then it suffices to say that it represents opinion of a large number of people and should be shown, without this blind fairness Reddit becomes some kind of specialist forum instead of a general one that represents the views of real people anonymously.
                  [–]Reejis99 4 points5 points6 points  (48 children)
                  Can't you people just be part of the conversation instead of cheating to dominate it?
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 2 points3 points4 points  (31 children)
                  Apparently it's cheating to be the most active sub on reddit, surpassing even the defaults, who have millions of subs?
                  Loooll
                  [–]bowtochris 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
                  Kind of, yeah. Having activity that's extremely disproportional to your membership is essentially the heart of false consensus.
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                  Kind of, yeah. Having activity that's extremely disproportional to your membership is essentially the heart of false consensus.
                  Thats... What? That doesn't make any sense.
                  [–]Idontlikecock -5 points-4 points-3 points  (0 children)
                  You've just never seen such high energy and enthusiasm before.
                  [–]Reejis99 3 points4 points5 points  (27 children)
                  It's cheating to game the sticky system to have an inordinate amount of spam on /r/all
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 0 points1 point2 points  (26 children)
                  What exactly (specifically) do you think they were doing?
                  [–]Reejis99 4 points5 points6 points  (13 children)
                  Stickying several new posts an hour to manipulate the algorithm which values early upvotes very highly in order to occupy an inordinate amount of the front page.
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 1 point2 points3 points  (12 children)
                  Stickying several new posts an hour to manipulate the algorithm which values early upvotes very highly in order to occupy an inordinate amount of the front page.
                  You mean using the feature designed to bring attention to new posts.... to bring attention to new posts? That's what you think "cheating" is? Voting a lot?
                  [–]Reejis99 1 point2 points3 points  (9 children)
                  I doubt the system was meant to allow a takeover of all with chain posts and empty shitposts. I feel as if Donald supporters ITT are being deliberately obtuse.
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 0 points1 point2 points  (8 children)
                  I feel like you're ignoring the fact that they used the system as it was intended to be used
                  They're literally the most active subreddit out of all subreddits (INCLUDING DEFAULTS). What, did you not expect them to make the top of reddit?
                  [–]tenparsecs 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
                  Yeah but they do it TOO WELL! That's evil!
                  [–]InMySafeSpace 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                  Fucking nazis! /s
                  [–]Celebit -2 points-1 points0 points  (11 children)
                  You know how reddit has a sticky function? Well, they were actually using it, those absolute mad men!
                  [–]GhostOfJebsCampaign 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
                  lol how lifeless must someone be to "compile evidence" about forum mods stickying submissions?
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                    [–]Reejis99 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                    "Lol well only a loser would care so much" has been the cliche response of the beaten since grade school it seems.
                    [–]InMySafeSpace 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
                    Right? It literally highlights posts to get said posts more attention more quickly
                    How dare the most active subreddit on all of reddit be on /r/all!
                    [–]Reejis99 2 points3 points4 points  (5 children)
                    Being on all is fine. being over half of all is not.
                    [–]InMySafeSpace 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
                    They're the most active sub on reddit, surpassing the defaults (defaults that have millions and millions of subs)
                    They're the most active subreddit, of course they're going to be all over /r/all
                    /r/all is literally just that... The top of all of reddit. Of course the most active subreddit is going to be all over it
                    [–]BusterGrundle -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
                    Here's the thing with that, current day liberals tout all conservative viewpoints as "hate speech", shout us down, literally spit on us, and silence us any way they can. I would love to be a part of a conversation but conversation doesn't happen.
                    [–]noPENGSinALASKA -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                    It's beautiful. "Racist, bigot, misogynist, etc" have all lost and weight and bearing they used to have thanks to the left.
                    [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points  (8 children)
                    Cheat? As in support views that we agree with?
                    [–]Reejis99 1 point2 points3 points  (7 children)
                    No, I'm talking about gaming the sticky system
                    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
                    Yea, that's a clever manipulation to get specific posts up faster, but td would be still be in all even without stickies
                    [–]Reejis99 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
                    I don't disagree, but if they didn't cheat there would be much more room for other things, too. When you have people talking about how they get 6 posts a page after they filter TD, something is wrong.
                    Ninja edit: also, calling your cheating "clever manipulation" is just irritating dick stroking
                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                    I mean it's clever because nobody thought to use it in that way before.
                    [–]Celebit -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
                    Actively using the sticky system to keep the subreddit fresh is not "gaming" the system. It certainly worked a lot better than reddit's stale algorithm at getting new, relevant posts to the top of the sub.
                    If you want a real example of gaming reddit, go look at it's #1 sociopathic manchild /u/GallowBoob, who posts and deletes the same content over and over again until it picks up enough votes to get to /r/all. Not only is he not banned for this, he was even welcomed back by reddit admins after sending unsolicited naked pictures of himself to another guy because the guy called him out for karma whoring (see, I wasn't kidding about the sociopathic manchild part).
                    This isn't about "gaming" anything, this is about reddit admins sheltering it's grown-children users from any scary opposing opinions. Even openly sexually harassing your fellow redditors is A-OK as long as you play the admins' childish games.
                    [–]Reejis99 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
                    Get a grip, there's still more than plenty Donald in the front page. TD literally brags every day about deliberately taking over /r/all, this has nothing to do with "keeping things fresh"and you know it.
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                      [–]Zenthon127 -6 points-5 points-4 points  (4 children)
                      If we didn't "cheat", we wouldn't be heard period. See: pre-/r/The_Donald constant Sanders spam.
                      [–]Reejis99 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                      Just upvote normally and carve out a fair chunk of /r/all like everyone else
                      [–]JustTray 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
                      Yes, racist, bigoted, and ignorant speech isn't popular. Crazy, isn't it? It's people trying to tell you your opinions aren't valued. I guess some people have a hard time coming to terms with it.
                      [–]Trump-Tzu -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
                      You can keep calling us racist and bigoted but it will never become true.
                      [–]BusterGrundle -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                      Maybe one day they'll figure out that those words have actual meanings.
                      [–]Reejis99 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                      God of course it's ciswitewhatever's sockpuppet too. These guys are so fucking obnoxious
                      [–]JonDollaz 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                      Yes, the plan is to play Censorship Whack-A-Mole until the election is over.
                      [–]ULN515 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
                      a contingency plan
                      lol
                      meme warfare is real
                      [–]brkello 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                      They could make it so that new subs do not hit r/all until 6 months after creation.
                      I just hope they start banning these people as quickly and harshly as possible.
                      [–]agreatfuckinusername -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
                      Just redefine hate speech to include anything you disagree with, then ban them all for hate speech.
                      edit: and downvote me for shedding light on your plan
                      [–]spire333 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
                      I agree. Ban those fascists. We must silence them for free speech.
                      [–]Snippa 13 points14 points15 points  (5 children)
                      Honestly, as someone who really doesn't care for politics at all, before /r/The_Donald even reached the front page, /r/all was being dominated by Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton posts, not just from their own subreddits but from /r/Politics and other subreddits. I personally had to filter out many of these subreddits (thank you RES) so that I could find more interesting content. The difference between viewing reddit on my pc and on my phone is staggering. I cannot visit /r/all on my phone anymore because it is spammed by biased political bullshit that I really don't care about at all.
                      [–]uiucrower 11 points12 points13 points  (3 children)
                      Everyone knows r/politics is a place for a fair and open discussion.
                      Said no one ever.
                      [–]GhostOfJebsCampaign 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                      /r/Politics right now is the most manipulated subreddit I've ever seen.
                      There are more bots and obviously paid accounts pasting from a script than legit users.
                      [–]iplayguitarbackwards 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
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                      [–]platysaur -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                      It's sad though because I think the people who frequent it think this.
                      [–]throwthisawayrightnw -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
                      In fairness, r/all hasn't ever been dominated or even touched by the two dozen subscribers at the Clinton subreddit.
                      [–]lnstantKarma 24 points25 points26 points  (106 children)
                      What do you have to say about the extreme homophobia and other extreme hatred coming from /r/the_donald?
                      They've said things such as:
                      "America will be a better place once these faggots leave"
                      “This fucking lesbian needs to be put in a camp.”
                      “if this is the case, why aren’t these faggots being put down like the animals that they are?”
                      With /r/the_donald being the most visible subreddit on the site for months while threatening and harassing others and even encouraging and inciting violence does /u/Spez think reddit has been the "online reflection of humanity"?
                      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points  (23 children)
                      Shh, they have a token gay guy Trump supporter, they can't possibly be homophobic!
                      [–]uprock 0 points1 point2 points  (11 children)
                      I like how all the LGBTQ 4 Trump responses are Bing downvoted. I know... You don't understand and it doesn't fit your narrative... So, downvoted!
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE -1 points0 points1 point  (10 children)
                      I don't know how lgbt people can vote for a candidate that plans to take away their rights
                      [–]uprock 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
                      You are totally right. Guess it's time to vote for someone on one issue instead of weighing my opinions on all issues and selecting a candidate. Considering I should be voting off of one issue, I'll switch my vote to Hillary because IT things confuse me, too.
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE -1 points0 points1 point  (8 children)
                      That's a pretty big ONE issue though, you'd be voting for a candidate that plans to make you a second class citizen again. Sure look at all the issues, but for LGBT people that's more than just one small issue
                      [–]uprock 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
                      Hillary has been accepting millions from countries that imprison gays for years now. Please, look it up. I don't believe that marriage equality is going to be repealed and you can't just assume my feelings on bathroom gate simply because I'm gay. You are right, it is a big one issue... And I've researched and have educated myself enough on Hillary and her "gay rights" advocacy to determine I'm still not voting for her. I believe one of the main issues with our system is that we categorically expect people to vote one way or another. Black? Democrat. Gay? Democrat. Young? Democrat. Redneck? Republican. Old? Republican.
                      If people voted from a perspective of completely understanding BOTH candidates; their views and their history... I think many votes would change.
                      Frankly, I think you should have to take a test before you are able to vote proving you know both candidates feelings on main issues. Many voters, especially younger ones, don't REALLY know why they are voting for who they are voting for. They know the theory but not the points.
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
                      90 percent of what you said has nothing to do with my comment so. either way it's your freedom to choose, but I'll choose the candidate that doesn't want to make me a second class citizen over the one who does
                      [–]uprock 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
                      It really does have something to do with it. Your comment is suggesting that I should not vote for Trump because I'm gay. My comment is about categorical voting. I don't know how you don't think it's relevant to your comment but I really don't care.
                      You have every right to vote for the lady who takes vacations using money from countries that kill homosexuals and, had she been anyone else within the armed forces, would already be in jail for her illegal actions.
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
                      Frankly, I think you should have to take a test before you are able to vote proving you know both candidates feelings on main issues. Many voters, especially younger ones, don't REALLY know why they are voting for who they are voting for. They know the theory but not the points.
                      That has absolutely nothing to do with anything we talked about, you just randomly start trashing young voters
                      you can't just assume my feelings on bathroom gate
                      no idea what the point of this was
                      I believe one of the main issues with our system is that we categorically expect people to vote one way or another. Black? Democrat. Gay? Democrat. Young? Democrat. Redneck? Republican. Old? Republican.
                      once again I don't know how this was brought up
                      I'm not suggesting you vote for anybody don't put words in my mouth, I stated disbelief at the fact that some LGBT people will vote for him
                      and to end off yes you also have the right to vote for a man who thinks vaccines cause autism, denies the existence of global warming, and congratulated himself on twitter after the pulse club shooting
                      [–]joyrider5 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (7 children)
                      About 5 minutes ago I had a trans patient and he supports trump and is really upset about Syrian Refugees. He was hilarious we had a ton of fun. He didn't use the word faggot but I am sure he wouldn't have minded if I said it playfully :)
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
                      and caitlyn Jenner supports ted cruz, a guy who hates what she is. If an lgbt person wants to support a candidate that plans on letting states take away gay rights that's their prerogative, still doesn't mean it makes sense
                      [–]joyrider5 -1 points0 points1 point  (5 children)
                      Who is this Ted Cruz guy you brought up? I vaguely remember him before he was steamrolled by Donald Trump. Trump is pro LGBT. He doesn't want to take away anyone's rights. He wants to execute the law and stop murderers and bigots from hurting our people.
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
                      Yeah that's why he wants to allow states the option to take away gay marriage, totally pro LGBT
                      [–]joyrider5 -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
                      Trump will NOT do that. No such plans. Don't try to coerce the LGBT community with lies they aren't dumb.
                      In Trump, pro-gay rights Republicans see a new hope
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
                      Yes he will here's the quote
                      I wish that it was done by the state. I don't like the way they ruled. I disagree with the Supreme Court from the standpoint they should have given the state — it should be a states' rights issue. … This is a very surprising ruling. And I — I can see changes coming down the line, frankly. But I would have much preferred that they ruled at a state level and allowed the states to make those rulings themselves. … If I’m elected I would be very strong in putting certain judges on the bench that maybe could change thing, but they have a long way to go
                      Here's another quote
                      “I think they can trust me on traditional marriage… and frankly, I was very much in favor of having the court rule that it goes to states, and let the states decide. And that was a shocking decision for you and for me and for a lot of other people, but I was very much in favor of letting the states decide and that’s the way it looked it was going and then all of a sudden out of nowhere came this very massive decision and they took it away. But I was always in favor of state’s rights; states deciding.”
                      You accuse me of lying? ok there buddy
                      [–]joyrider5 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
                      What straw man you arguing against exactly? Lol. President Trump is NOT going to harm the rights of LGBT. Period.
                      [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                      That's not what a straw man is at all.
                      He has stated multiple times(and I quoted two of them for you) that he will give states the right to take away gay marriage, THIS WILL HARM THE RIGHTS OF LGBT PEOPLE.
                      If he gets elected and follows through with what he has claimed multiple times, certain states will abolish gay marriage resulting in the harm of LGBT people across the country
                      THIS IS NOT A STRAWMAN THIS IS DONALD TRUMPS ACTUAL POSITION
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                        [–]ruleovertheworld -43 points-42 points-41 points  (19 children)
                        you are a moron if you think r/The_Donald is a homophobic place. Faggot is lovingly referred to Milo Yiannopoulos who goes by the name- dangerous faggot. His username is yiannopoulos_m and his flair is- Dangerous Faggot - MILO
                        Educate yourself please.
                        edit- low energy bernie downbots seem to be here in large nos. Hi berniebots! And any chumps from the millenial's team of the evil one, hello kids!
                        [–]lnstantKarma 28 points29 points30 points  (16 children)
                        Milo hates other gay people and writes homophobic propaganda.
                        He wrote an article for Breitbart titled "Gay Rights Have Made Us Dumber, It's Time to Get Back in the Closet" in which he argues gay people need to get back in the closet, get married to women and have children because the traditional family is the ideal and because we need to compete with other countries in terms of reproduction to preserve the West.
                        He wrote an article for Breitbart in which he "gave permission" for straight people to use homophobic slurs.
                        Also on twitter he said Massachussets smells disgusting because it has a high percentage of lesbians and lesbian couples.
                        [–]disneyprincesssnoke 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                        he argues gay people need to get back in the closet, get married to women and have children because the traditional family is the ideal and because we need to compete with other countries in terms of reproduction to preserve the West.
                        Goddamn that's sad. "Forget happiness. You have a duty to your country."
                        [–]ruleovertheworld comment score below threshold-23 points-22 points-21 points  (13 children)
                        If you have heard his videos you will understand he talks about focusing on the wrong issues is setting back LGBT agenda by years. Converting colleges into 'safe spaces' where conservatives are spitted upon is not how equality is supposed to work.
                        And the AMA and smell reference, do you get humour? Did you notice it was on the trump sub and it was shitposting. If we can joke about marriage between straight people and straight people themselves, no reason to leave out the fags and the lesbians. PC is fucking us up..
                        EDIT- literally 2 comments down in the AMA:
                        [–]SpurdoBurdo 121 points 2 months ago
                        "TRUMP SUPPORTERS SAY LESBIANS DON'T EXIST" -Huffington Post probably
                        [–]Jac1ntoCA 6 points 2 months ago
                        Don't forget buzzfeed producing a 20 minute video about it.
                        [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 10 points11 points12 points  (12 children)
                        I like how you completely ignored major points in his post? whats your excuse for milo writing about "gay people need to get back in the closet, get married to women and have children because the traditional family is the ideal and because we need to compete with other countries in terms of reproduction to preserve the West."
                        Are you going to address that?
                        Edit: heres footage of milo being completely serious saying "Lesbianism isn't real, it's just a manifestation of female misery" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQXTt_eGBQ&feature=youtu.be&t=5m18s
                        Whats the excuse for that?
                        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                        "you see folks, Milo is a really really smart person. Very smart person. He loves gays. Love em. You know what he hates? Crooked Hillary. We should get rid of all the terrible terrible Muslims, Mexicans and darker people from this country. It's too late folks, it's too late."
                        [–]ruleovertheworld comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (8 children)
                        Gay Rights Have Made Us Dumber, It's Time to Get Back in the Closet
                        Taken out of context any line can appear shocking. As a straight guy who doesnt even live in the US, I urge you to read the source article before commenting-
                        [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 9 points10 points11 points  (7 children)
                        I did read the article, it's as homophobic as it sounds
                        heres footage of milo being completely serious saying "Lesbianism isn't real, it's just a manifestation of female misery"
                        Is he still joking? there's no excuse for this
                        [–]ruleovertheworld -1 points0 points1 point  (6 children)
                        TBH I found the point pretty interesting, could be wrong of course, but nevertheless interesting. Particularly him quoting studies about lesbian domestic abuse and misery. Might seem inappropriate but its okay to have an opinion if there is data pointing in that direction.
                        Thats how progress is made, by debating such things. You cant shut out his right to talk all this by saying there is no excuse for this.
                        [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 6 points7 points8 points  (4 children)
                        So you went from claiming he's joking, to now supporting his points? Are we really bringing back the old 50's argument about how being gay/lesbian is a choice( which is what he argues in the video)
                        There's no debate, it's been proven wrong a thousand times over, being gay/lesbian is not a choice. there's no data pointing in that direction, his examples aren't data
                        [–]ruleovertheworld 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
                        I am not referring to the choice part. I was talking about the psychological effects of a lesbian household vs a gay household. Psychology is a new field compared to medicine and there is so much to research, especially when it comes to LGBT related studies so you cant really say SLAM this is done and cant be debated ever!
                        [–]TheUniverseis2D 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                        Hi mate. Lesbians do not exist. Salt Dont Go Nowhere is salty and can't handle unpopular truths. The science shows that female sexuality is fluid. Women are naturally bisexual and can seamlessly switch between sexual orientations.
                        This study had a quite a large sample size so its worth looking at even though I couldn't find an unlocked pdf link--I can only open it through my old uni password--but here is a reputable science website discussing the findings regarding the fluidity of female sexuality:https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150825083613.htm
                        Note, this all proves that not only do lesbians not exist in the sense of women who are strictly attracted to other women, but that straight women do not exist either (this is well-known as well) and that women are simply bisexual creatures.
                        [–]i_saw_a_moose -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
                        Actually what he said was that gay men have higher IQ's on average and so them not reproducing was hurting the collective gene pool. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
                        [–]SALT_DONT_GO_NOWHERE 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
                        That honestly doesn't help his case, that makes it worse. Hurting the gene pool? why the fuck is anyone concerned about that? Gay men having higher IQ's? where's the source on that?
                        So because of some weird bullshit about the gene pool gays are just supposed to stay in the closet?
                        [–]joyrider5 -9 points-8 points-7 points  (0 children)
                        That is total bullshit. Ask Milo
                        [–]Notenoughsnipers 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
                        Excuses excuses kiddo you got alot of them, throw your typical trump tantrum somewhere else because youuuuuuu loooooossssssttttt hahahahahahhaha
                        [–]ptixact -5 points-4 points-3 points  (0 children)
                        You look real mature right now.
                        Plus, if one subreddit "won" the front page so badly that the admins literally had to change the rules... you think they lost? Ok then.
                        [–]FrenchFriesFriday 4 points5 points6 points  (3 children)
                        Fucking thank you! I'm tired of seeing r/sandersforpresident and r/the_donald dominating r/all. I'm using it for discovering new interesting popular subreddits
                        [–]Arttru707 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
                        Use a filter you lazy fuck.
                        [–]jmlswiftie420 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                        Even if t_d gets taken off of /r/all, sanders will continue to stay on it. If anything, during election cycles, they should limit or just not show political agendas on /r/all at all. No matter who you vote for or support, people should just accept that others have different opinions. But sadly people want to be childish and cry when they disagree with something.
                        [–]OriginalDrum 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                        Not sure if this will get read, but some things I have been thinking about that now seems like a good time to share:
                        While I think the change to /r/all might be good, it might be worth considering providing the old 'hot' as an additional sorting method like 'top' and 'controversial'.
                        Changing the name of the default /r/all tab to something else (as others mentioned, 'outstanding', or 'front', or something), and then still providing an unfiltered 'hot' tab as one of the other additional sorting methods for /r/all would still protect the purity of the algorithm, that it is actually what is more 'hot' over all of reddit, without making it the default method for viewing /r/all.
                        One possible problem I see with the new system is that if say there is a major story that breaks, it becomes possible to suppress it by massively upvoting another story in the same subreddit (or upvoting another take on the same story to try to control the narrative). So providing a pure implementation of the old algorithm would help alleviate this problem.
                        Regarding defaults, I think there is a good argument that in order to become or remain a default they should provide some minimum level of transparency (moderation logs or something).
                        [–]IAMA_BAD_MAN_AMA 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
                        Spez,
                        I fully expect this question to be ignored, but what (if anything) is being done in regards to the clear left leaning bias of the moderatorship of many of the large default subreddits? It's been shown time and time again that without diversity of thought among moderator teams that ideological bullies often team up to suppress information that they find uncomfortable or disagreeable - the most recent and likely high-profile instance of this is with /r/news, however we've also seen it in the past in regards to /r/technology, which resulted in it being removed as a default, and /r/games, which turned what was a small group's concerns about the personal relations between games reviewers and games developers into a year and a half long crusade. How long can Reddit continue to operate under such a model?
                        [–]HarithBK 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
                        i don't think that is a good way to fix this issue of users of a subreddit just mass spam upvoting everything on there i think a better choise would have been to give more and less value to upvotes depending on habbits and sub-reddits subed to etc. so that a person isn't punished for posting somthing good just before an other users posted somthing good.
                        i mean if /r/ubbet wants to upvote swedish dankness that just is a silly goof and really shouldn't be punished but with the case of /r/the_donald they spam upvote everything on there and continuly dose it and ruins the first 4 pages of /r/all
                        [–]k3vin187 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        Lots of moderation, intervening and talking it out on Reddit lately. Rather than mods and admins jumping in, I'd rather have tools to filter out content on my own. We should be easily able to block sub reddits from all and people subscribed to those subreddits
                        [–]Juniorseyes 13 points14 points15 points  (3 children)
                        Putting bandaids on shotgun wounds isn't going to do a damn thing as long as you keep allowing communities that blatantly break site rules to exist.
                        Well, community. It's always the same people.
                        [–]doc_brietz 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
                        We have seen many communities like r/the_donald over the years—ones that attempt to dominate the conversation on Reddit at the expense of everyone else. This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
                        Thank God. I should not HAVE to download Reddit enhancement suite just to filter everything related to Donald trump, Bernie sanders, Hillary Clinton, and politics. This crap was getting out of hand and ruining reddit. I like this site. Please don't let the pro and anti Donald trump garbage ruin the site.
                        On another note, the way /r/news handled the shooting was hot garbage and unacceptable. Dumb censorship is worse than all of the trump garbage.
                        Since your the boss, I am holding you responsible for fixing both of these messes. Do you have a plan to deal with these 2 issues, and if you have and I am out of the loop, what is/was that plan. Thanks for all you do!
                        p.s. keep the lines of communication open, please. You are doing a good job of it so far. When something like the news or trump goes down and I don't see a red name post, I can only assume that you all either don't know or care about it. Neither of those are acceptable.
                        [–]Monk_on_Fire 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        A bit overdue maybe, but thank you. I don't use reddit much anymore but when I do I always used to check /r/all because it's good to get out of one's bubble. Recently it's been like stepping out of your own bubble only to step into someone else's.
                        [–]bazoos 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        It might behoove you to make the "block subreddit" function easier and more accessible to users. I know it exists somewhere in the settings when using the reddit enhancement suite, but not sure it's even a thing without the addon. Just my two cents.
                        [–]goshdarned_cunt 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                        Okay, so I guess TIL that there is an /r/all, which is actually different than the actual front page. I always assumed they were the same but just referred to by different names. Looks pretty okay to me right now, interesting to see some popular threads from subs I wouldn't usually subscribe to.
                        However, when I filter it by rising, it's literally only the_donald and EnoughTrumpSpam. Is this a side effect of the new changes? Will this balance itself overtime or is it something that can/will be fixed by adjusting the algorithm? (mentioning /u/spez just to be sure)
                        [–]TruthfulTom 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
                        This is my r/all/top by the hour at this moment.
                        Being non amerikan I care not for your antics and have blocked many things and just focus on some niche subs.
                        Reddit is no longer the place I go to find fresh content.
                        [–]xII_Razer_IIx 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
                        I would just love the option to filter out anything political. Not sure if that's feasible, but I want to look a funny pictures and learn how to do shit, not hear some hive mind's political opinions. I can try to filter certain words from titles but that doesn't stop all these dank political memes with shitty titles.
                        [–]nitram9 7 points8 points9 points  (5 children)
                        What really angered me about /r/The_Donald is there strict rules that ban you for having any other opinion than what they want you to have. I feel like if it's on the front page I should be able to take part in the discussion about it. That's the way reddit should work. That's the way it used to work. While I see nothing wrong with /r/The_Donald existing they shouldn't be able to gain admittance to the frontpage and then cut you out. You should ban subs from /r/all that have such ridiculous restrictions on discussion. Or at least alter the algorithm to heavily punish them.
                        [–]lost_in_thesauce 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
                        I filtered out /r/the_Donald a long time ago from /r/all (along with the Sanders sub to be honest) and things have been great. I feel like I missed out on a lot of drama/shit posting because of this, which is likely a good thing.
                        [–]elchupanibre5 8 points9 points10 points  (9 children)
                        Many people will ask if this is related to r/the_donald. The short answer is no... Interestingly enough, r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes. It seems the rest of the Reddit community had had enough. Ironically, r/EnoughTrumpSpam was hit harder than any other community when we rolled out the changes. That’s Reddit for you. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
                        I have never rolled my eyes so hard. Come on spez, do you think we are this gullible? I could care less about Trump or Clinton, they are both a waste of my time, but come on buddy... one has to be pretty damn ignorant not to notice that it was the admins/mods who are the main vehicle of eliminating /r/The_Donald from /r/all while then promoting /r/EnoughTrumpSpam If you are going to lie to our faces at least try to be a little more subtle about it. Stuff like this makes me want to leave reddit. If you want people to hate you and the admin/mod team less, try to be a little less smug next time.
                        [–]Spikekuji 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        All I want is for the AMAs to show up in my feed as they are happening instead of only showing up hours later.
                        [–]captainotto 17 points18 points19 points  (28 children)
                        I'm here to tell you, I can't speak on behalf of everyone that uses this site, but if what has been done keeps the spam down from some FOB from a 4chan trolling site, well it's not censorship so much as it's quality control. Today's /r/all has been better than any /r/all I can remember in recent memory. Marked improvement to the quality of the site. Quality control. Carry on.
                        [–]PsychMarketing 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
                        wait - what's the difference between /r/all and the front? I've never been on /r/all - who goes there? why?
                        [–]FrancisGalloway 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        What exactly are these changes you made to r/all? If you really want to communicate with the users, if you really want transparency, then you ought to give an explanation of what the changes you made actually ate.
                        [–]Caddy06_88 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                        I think this is a positive change. I've become increasing frustrated with the donald spam over the last couple of weeks. In fact, it was just the other day that I installed RES and filtered out the entire subreddit.
                        It's a shame in a way because something popular does deserve to hit the front pages of reddit, the good and bad, but when it's deliberately gamed to be that way and to increase the agenda, it's really annoying to everybody who isn't involved / doesn't care.
                        Also, it's scary the impact the subreddit was having on the site as a whole given that it's only June.
                        I'm also glad that those event has also pushed filtering to be rolled out to everybody as a standard feature. This should have been implemented a long time ago. I couldn't believe that my google search on how to filter out a subreddit only returned information on RES (which, by the way, is amazing).
                        [–]Naughty_Eskimo 7 points8 points9 points  (4 children)
                        Just on the topic of the_Donald:
                        I get it. I love the_Donald, and it's the sub I go to most often. However, they came up with specific ways to manipulate your system to consistently make it to the front page or r/all. It was an obvious manipulation of the system (although imo a smart and funny one), but when someone breaks the system, someone has to repair it.
                        If you love the_Donald, you'll go to the_Donald regularly. The only reason the_Donald gives a shit about the front page and r/all is because getting to the top is a game for them. The trolling was fun and hilarious for a while but guys, not everyone wants to see our dank memes all the time.
                        The only counterpoint I can see to this would be the r/news/Orlando situation. the_Donald was the best place to get information on that on reddit that day. However, I don't know to what extent the new changes could really prevent the_Donald from reaching people if it had the cross-subreddit appeal that it did that day.
                        [–]rd1970 8 points9 points10 points  (12 children)
                        Have you guys considered having something that would be the opposite of subscribing, so that I could view /r/all, but specify I never want to see certain subs like /r/the_donald?
                        /r/all is a great way to find new subs, but there are some things I will simply never be interested in.
                        While we're at it, have you considered similar functionality for certain users/domain names? It would be nice to indicate that I never want to see submissions from the dailymail.co.uk. The same goes for users that come here to post memes, puns, etc.
                        [–]allhailbob 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
                        I just started down voting anything related now to the American elections be it sanders, the donald, clinton or their respective hate subs. Just wanted old reddit back, with some insightful ask thread, cool news, some interesting fact, world news, some funny comics..
                        Not keyboard warrior shit of some politicians of one country
                        [–]my_lucid_nightmare 6 points7 points8 points  (4 children)
                        As a 40 year veteran of using social spaces on computers, I applaud your attempts to tend the garden of your space.
                        Personally, I liked the free flowing anarchy that one /r/all did provide, or at least the free flowing manipulative competition. I actually liked, from a social-networking communications theory standpoint, seeing how well the various groups were doing at competing for the unpoliced wild-west space.
                        Is there a way to see /r/all continue without these new filters?
                        [–]Xyliss 45 points46 points47 points  (115 children)
                        Oh I've just discovered /r/the_donald
                        This is... Interesting. I don't really understand what is going on ಠ_ಠ
                        [–]Adon1kam 5 points6 points7 points  (5 children)
                        Started with 4chan in a response to everyone posting about Sanders (fair enough), ended up with all the edgelords seemingly legitimately buying into it and turning it into the totalitarian meme culture that it is today.
                        If you want to see something funny look up the shitposting war /r/Sweden had with them on subredditdrama. Pretty much the only decent thing to come from /r/the_donald
                        [–]Xyliss 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
                        Haha my boyfriend (who's Swedish) just told me about the war with Sweden. I feel like this is the online version of farage vs geldof on the Thames.
                        [–]Jeffool 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
                        Any chance of getting an "unvoted" sort? All, sorted by hot, except those you've voted on?
                        [–]Vipitis 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                        Much like other people described a lot here allready - how about multiple multireddits?
                        r/all like we know it just without all the America propaganda.
                        Something like "outstanding"
                        And frontpages for multitopics of different subreddits.
                        Or filter and sorting options? As a European.... I don't really care about the American politics and elections(they are in September anyways... So why is all frontpage of it since December??) as a mobile user I have strong limitations to hiding some subreddits I would like to and so I have to use, whatever is presented to me.
                        [–]user1492 6 points7 points8 points  (3 children)
                        Interestingly enough, r/the_donald was already getting downvoted out of r/all yesterday morning before we made any changes.
                        So you acknowledge that people are brigading subs, something apparently against reddit's own rules, and your solution is...to ban that sub from appearing?
                        How about you punish the people breaking the rules rather than censoring content on the front page.
                        But if you're in the mood to censor content, how about you clean up some of the default subs? /r/twoxchromosomes is full of content I don't want to see before I log in. So is /r/worldnews and /r/news.
                        Maybe a better question is: why do you promote and encourage left-wing views while discourage and actively attack anything centrist or right-wing?
                        [–]DodgerDoan 7 points8 points9 points  (2 children)
                        Spez, it feels like you are claiming the Reddit community is opposed to what's happening on /r/the_donald but that sub INCLUDES a massive amount of the Reddit community... It just feels a little bit like an us vs them mentality that you're expressing.
                        [–]CuilRunnings 91 points92 points93 points  (83 children)
                        This undermines Reddit, and we are not going to allow it.
                        You know what else undermines Reddit? Power users like the /r/news mods who censor thousands of posts, comments, and users on a daily basis. When are you going to make them accountable?
                        [–]Hexatomb 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
                        All I know is that over the last two years, Reddit's r/all has gone from a significant, constantly updated, useful source of information to a cluster$@&# of garbage and drama. Any semblance of valid, viable links to interesting or newsworthy content has turned into pointless memes, outdated material and heavily moderated smegma. Reddit used to be my number one source for news around the world, updated constantly with fresh news articles and live current events. Now it's extremely difficult to see new content more than once a day that isn't absolute junk being pushed upon us by bots or paid posters manipulating the system to get drivel to the front page. It's a shame really when you can find content on Facebook that's more up-to-date than Reddit these days. I am beginning to really wonder where all the good content posters went.
                        [–]LittleRecordings 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
                        Thank you for making /r/all great again!
                        The less Hilary/Sanders/Trump "OMG LOOK WHAT HE DID!" posts the better.
                        I know US elections is a big deal to the US, but I am going to go out on a limb and say that even US redditors are sick of it, let alone people outside of it.
                        [–]a_nimble_centipede 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
                        I'm a regular the_donald reader and I agree too that the r/all should be more varied. It is called ALL for a reason after all. I want variety as well!
                        [–]Mufro 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
                        I'm actually looking forward to seeing less posts from /r/funny, which dominated /r/all before /r/the_donald arrived iirc. I'm looking forward to seeing a wider variety of posts.
                        [–]half3clipse 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
                        Well, 99% of the stuff it shows me is stuff that shows up on my front page anyways, stuff I really couldn't care about and stuff I don't want to be browsing through half the time and Spending a bunch of time scrolling past stuff from r/defualtoralreadyseen, r/subidon'tcareaboutandwillnevercareaboutpleasegoaway and r/15diffrentpornsubshere makes actaully discovering content I'd be intrested in rather difficult.
                        It needs a decent filtering option built in so i can cut down the amount of chaff it spits out for me to sort through.
                        [–]duganaok 10 points11 points12 points  (1 child)
                        /u/spez this feels like yet another form of censorship that Reddit admins and mod's have been pushing for a long time. In order to control how the outside media perceive Reddit itself. How do we know that all this change isn't just going straight to your pocket book? How do we know that Reddit itself hasn't been corrupted and bought out piece by piece? It seems to me like you and your fellow admins have lost touch with the real issues and instead greed has taken hold. Didn't one of your admins try fighting this sort of corruption and ended up commuting suicide after having his life was torn apart?
                        [–]Murfilds 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
                        So you mean /r/all won't just be US politics and actually become interesting again?
                        [–]kevie3drinks 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
                        I'm going to go into /r/all now, I have a feeling i'm leaving the vault after a nuclear attack from many years ago. What things will I see, what things will I learn? I'm excited to go on this intrepidus journey. wish me luck.
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